Report: #312454

Complaint Review: Secureaspects.com, Iraqsurplus.com,

  • Submitted: Wed, February 27, 2008
  • Updated: Mon, February 01, 2016
  • Reported By: lexington Kentucky
  • Secureaspects.com, Iraqsurplus.com,
    secureaspects.com
    Internet
    U.S.A.

Secureaspects.com, Iraqsurplus.com, Frank Sellers and Secure Aspects will violate your personal security! Oroville Internet

*Consumer Suggestion: Let's move on.....

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Got fired again?

*Consumer Comment: Secureaspects.com job board is a rip-off!

*Consumer Comment: Frank Sellers is an unprofessional, miscreant, and he's ugly as well.

*Consumer Comment: Nathan Glover is a FRAUD!

*Consumer Comment: Obsession... lol

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Nathan, What is wrong with you?

*Consumer Comment: E-mail to the Blue Knights President

*Consumer Comment: Frank was fired from EODT, Triple Canopy and numerous Companies

*Consumer Comment: Frank why no rebuttal?

*Consumer Suggestion: Have First Hand Knowledge Of Frank

*Author of original report: Bwa ha ha ha... cant stop laughing...

*Consumer Suggestion: Verification

*UPDATE Employee: Dialogue

*Author of original report: Also the threat made previously has been reported to the FBI as it contitutes a Federal Crime and is being investigated by numerous agencies.

*Consumer Suggestion: Good suggestion

*Consumer Suggestion: Good suggestion

*Consumer Suggestion: Good suggestion

*Consumer Suggestion: Good suggestion

*Consumer Suggestion: Suggestion

*Author of original report: Frank Sellers does not deny written threat!

*Author of original report: The threat once again

*Consumer Comment: Maturity and descretion in business.

*UPDATE Employee: Someone call the loony catchers

*Consumer Comment: Response to Secure Aspects Blog

*Author of original report: The Truth about secure aspects

*Consumer Comment: The Truth About SecureAspects.com and the anonymous complaintant

*Consumer Comment: The Truth About SecureAspects.com and the anonymous complaintant

*Consumer Comment: The Truth About SecureAspects.com and the anonymous complaintant

*Consumer Comment: The Truth About SecureAspects.com and the anonymous complaintant

*UPDATE Employee: Rip-Off Report 313547 is False and Unsubstantiated

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Frank Sellers owner and operator of secureaspects.com, an internet based company for "High Risk Security Contractors" has posted an individuals personal information including name, address, phone numbers, and work history online for anyone to see! He has done this after numerous attempts by this victim to remove the posts from his site. He has also slandered this persons good name and reputation causing severe damage to his livelihood.

Frank is a "former" Law Enforcement Officer from california and should know better. He is shamlessly trying to make a profit from the the war in Iraq and duping unsuspecting people who think they're going to get esoteric knowledge on gaining employment in this arena. He is a charlatan, a fraud, and is breaking the law by posting a former member's personal information on his website and slandering his name. This is against the law occording to Federal Statute.

Anonymous
lexington, Kentucky
U.S.A.
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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Let's move on.....

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Frank,

How would you know nor why would you care if I get laid off? Unless of course you're stalking me and keeping tabs on me? You're entire last rebuttal proves your culpability and reinforces everything I've been saying all along. That you're stalking, Harrassing, and useing your contacts to disrupt my life. If you dont want anything to do with me then why do you continue to pursue me and or gather information about me?

For the record I was terminated from employment in Iraq due to the hostile situation that Frank and his associates created over there. Nothing derogatory was committed by myself. Get a life guys. I've already had 3 job offers here in the states. You can keep your hot and sweaty Iraq! Frank has also posted on his site that I've recently applied to a certain Law Enforcement agency in my hometown. There's no way he could have gotten that information unless he's actively stalking me. Let's just let bygones be bygones. I have a beautifull family and they're all I care about right now. This petty stuff is over.
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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Got fired again?

AUTHOR: Frank - (U.S.A.)

Hi Nathan, I hear you are back at home and once again your personality and mental illness got you fired? Thats too bad for you I guess. I see you are up to your tricks again by posting dribble here, its actually more amusing than you think. Its amazing how the hangup phone calls at my house from Iraq stopped after you were forced out of Iraq due to your immaturity and instabillity again LOLOL. I know you had nothing to do with that, yeah right. Well you seem to consistantly bring up the posting of your information which was done by yourself intially LOLOL, I thought I would share with the people that run across this post a link thread to all of your antics and they can make up their own mind. I will not be responding to your dribble anymore and will be enjoying the nice weather here in Texas or maybe Kentucky, maybe Ohio... who knows cyah later and take care.

http://www.secureaspects.com/forum/Forums/viewtopic/t=4322/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html
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#3 Consumer Comment

Secureaspects.com job board is a rip-off!

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

After carefully scrutinising the jobs placed on Frank Sellers job board it was descovered by myself that all the jobs posted on his site can be found on Monster.com, careerbuilder.com or other public and Free! job placement websites. Frank is duping unschooled individuals out of thier hard earned cash by luring them with promises of "an in" with the PSC industry. I've met several individuals who attested to me that Frank Sellers has anger management issues and violent tendencies. One of these gentlemen has witnessed him assault a teammate while in New Orleans for a simple disagreement. Another thing Frank Has failed to realise is that since I'm a paying member of his site. That he cannot defame, libel, or harrass me in any fashion. He also does not realise that he has committed a felony by making terroristic threats over the internet. As a private figue {one who doesnt own a business} I cannot be defamed or libeled online without ramifications. Frank Sellers [who is the owner of a company} is considered as a public figure and free reign can be had at his expense.

Here's some case law frank and friends, see you in court. Or you could do the honorable thing and erase your libelous, slanderous, threats and move on with life.



II. LEGAL REMEDIES FOR INTERNET LIBEL AROUND THE WORLD
A. THE UNITED STATES

Libelous messages placed on the Internet in the United States is upheld to the same level of scrutiny as other forms of communication. However, the ease in which a person can keep their identity secret frequently poses a problem for finding a responsible party. Recent trends indicate that the owners and operators of on-line services will sometimes be held liable for what is placed on their services. Recent case law in the United States considering the liability of owners and operators of on-line services for items posted upon bulletin boards exemplify the evolving area of computer law. The courts have looked upon on-line libel with an eye upon traditional libel law and also recognizing the uniqueness of on-line circumstances.

The liability of the owners and operators of on-line systems for the posting of defamatory statements depends on whether they are considered by the courts as a distributor of information or a publisher of information. These two categories, publisher and distributor are treated differently in traditional libel law. The distributor of information, such as libraries, newsstands, bookstores, telephone and telegraph operators are not normally held liable. Publishers, such as newspapers and publishing houses are held responsible for the materials that they print. (Internet and the Law, p. 164). Thus, in the Internet world, if the accused is considered to be a distributor, then no liability will be found unless the individual had personal knowledge of the contents of the material. However, if the operator or owner is considered to be a publisher, then liability will be found.

Holding on-line operators liable for material placed on the Internet is complicated by the uniqueness of the Internet. *The Internet consists of approximately 7 million computers seamlessly integrated using a common technology via 60,000 largely private networks . . . It operates over virtually every kind of underlying means, including: local networks (LANS), telephone lines, ISDN, CATV, wireless, cellular, private and common carrier fiber, satellite and submarine cable circuits. A common joke is that the Internet runs over everything except wet string. The Internet operates as a highly distributed intelligent network that can automatically learn and adapt to dynamically route traffic over myriad alternative routes. A message or even pieces of a message may go different paths to an end destination at any time.* (*Prepared Testimony of Anthony M. Rutkowski Executive Director, The Internet Society Before the House Committee on Science Technology Subcommittee Regarding the Internet and the Management of Objectionable Materials*, Federal News Service, July 27, 1995.)

Two recent cases reveal the importance of the distinction between distributor and publisher in the United States. In one case, CUBBY, INC. V. COMPUSERVE, INC., the court granted CompuServe Inc. summary judgment based upon the court's finding that CompuServe served the same purpose as a library. The court stated that CompuServe would have been held liable only if the company knew or had reason to know of the defamatory statement. (Internet and the Law, p. 166). The court found that an agency relationship had not been established since CompuServe did not directly regulate the materials placed upon the electronic bulletin boards. (Internet and the Law, p. 168).

In another case, STRATTON OAKMONT, INC. V. PRODIGY SERVICES CO., the court found that unlike CompuServe, Inc., Prodigy Services Co. did hold itself out to the general public as a publisher because it used software to prescreen messages that were offensive, and therefore was liable for materials that appeared on the Prodigy computer bulletin board. (Internet and the Law, p. 168). Thus, in the United States, the definition of the owner/operator as either a publisher or common carrier will be definitive as to the liability of the owner/operator. (*Internet Publishing Raises Legal Questions; Copyright violations are possible*, Business Insurance, February 26, 1996, p. 21).

Libel lawsuits arising within the United States have also targeted the individual user. A journalist, Brock Meeks, operated a bulletin board in which he questioned the integrity of Suarez Corporation's marketing practices. Meeks posted two messages on his bulletin board concerning Suarez Corporation, in which he referred to the electronic advertisements used by Suarez as *questionable marketing scams*. (*Defining Cyberlibel*, Jeremy Stone Weber, 46 Case W. Res. 235, 1995, p. 255.) In response, Suarez Corporation sued Meeks for libel. In his defense, Meeks argued that Suarez should be considered to be a "public figure" because the alleged libel was made on a computer bulletin board and Suarez could respond by placing a reply on the bulletin board. If Suarez was found to be a public figure, his burden of proof to recover damages would be higher. However, the parties settled out of court before the issue was decided of whether a person, or corporation slandered on the Internet should be treated as a public figure. (Id. at 255.) Advocates for viewing persons libeled on the Internet as public figures point out that rebuttals can be made swiftly. However, critics point out that not all persons have access to the same bulletin boards, and furthermore, not all persons use the Internet. (*A Lawyer's Ramble Down the Information Superhighway: Defamation*, Jessica R. Friedman, 64 Fordham L. Rev. 794, p.800.)

The treatment of Internet libel remains unresolved. A proposed Uniform Defamation Act would not hold computer bulletin board operators liable if it *(1) is not reasonably understood to assert in the normal course of business the truthfulness of the information maintained or transmitted; or (2) takes reasonable steps to inform users that it does not assert the truthfulness of the information maintained or transmitted*. (Id. at 260.). However, at this time the Uniform Defamation Act has not been passed by lawmakers.

Recently, the state of Wisconsin took the initiative to combat libel on the Internet. On March 26, 1996, the Wisconsin Assembly approved a bill, AB 852, that holds material published on the Internet to the same standards that currently apply to other mass media. Thus, under Wisconsin law, an individual libeled on the Internet can not sue until they notify the alleged libeler that they have taken offense. The alleged libeler then has the opportunity to make a correction or retraction. If the correction is made, only actual damages may be recovered. (*Libel Law Expansion*, Madison Newspapers, Inc., March 26, 1996, p. 4A). Furthermore the new Wisconsin Bill, AB 852, holds system operators liable only if they knew that the information was false, and still published it, or did not remove the material upon being told that it was defamatory. (Id. at 4A.)
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#4 Consumer Comment

Frank Sellers is an unprofessional, miscreant, and he's ugly as well.

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Frank,

Just let it go man. It's over now. Your going to jail soon for the threat you made against me end of story. Was it worth it? All the pain and suffering your family will endure just so you can be a "macho Man". It really isnt healthy to project your lack of verile power on to unsupecting people {like myself} who were just trying to use your site to meet new people and find information. And you use your self contempt to paint everyone with that same brush. I dont want anything to do with you. I just want my reputation back. The lies and slander not to mention the terroristic threats have caused me to have insomnia, relationship troubles, emotional pain and suffering and work performance problems as well.

I dont want to sue you. I just want this to go away. If I do sue you I've been told that I'll definately win the case with the annount of evidence I have. Secureaspects will be no more. Unless if you could look inside that birdcage of a chest and dig down and find your heart and after finding ask yourself. Why am I devoting this much energy into something that isnt productive nor relevant. Ridiculous is how I'd describe it. Frank you dont realise that we know similar people? That are wanting this to be over because it's bad for business.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Nathan Glover is a FRAUD!

AUTHOR: Frank - (U.S.A.)

Nathan Glover, man common you did not get enough of a response as you were hoping from this site, so you register on another site as Gonzales and start spreading lies there also. Here is the link for those that wish to see it.

(((Redacted)))

Gonzales why dont you use your real name instead of anonymous or Gonzales, what are you scared of. Everyone already knows what type of a person you are.

Once again the same pattern from you, we agree to set this aside then you go and do something like this. Just goes to show you that a leopard really does not change its spots. You are a fraud and always will be a fraud. You have soiled your own name in the industry and now you are working in Iraq, lucky you. Your not for the long though. Like I told you, you are your own worst enemy and when you decide to grow up a little bit and not throw a tandrum when you don't get your way maybe you will be successful in this industry and get a decent reputation. Until then You can not be trusted, thats Obvious! Mr. Gonzales, aka Anonymous.. LOLOLOL how pathetic. I hope this shows the admins of this site what a waste of space you are. Mr. 40 PSD combat missions AKA Land mine warefare guru, AKA Mall Ninja HAHAHA, . Someone with your obvious issues should not be around weapons.

I removed your post as requested but was lied to by you again, this is the third time which is consitent with your pattern, you sir are a Fraud, Liar and just over all scumbag. Leave Me and my family alone and quit harrassing us!



 CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Obsession... lol

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Dude,

Remove derogatory information and personal information about me from your site. After that quit trying to harrass me with your slander in regards to my current employment. After that get some help with your compulsive and narsisistic behaviors. I'm not obsessed with you. I'm obsessed with PERSEC and OPSEC.
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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Nathan, What is wrong with you?

AUTHOR: Frank - (U.S.A.)

I have no idea where you are coming up with this garbage. I have never called anyone on the phone yet alone your wife and made threats. Where do you come up with this stuff? I am willing to take a polygraph in regards to that, would you be willing to do the same? Your accusations are getting out of control I don't even know the Blue Knights, what is it that has made you so obsessed with me, quit sending me personal emails wanting to be friends, just stay away from me, you live your life and I will live mine. Is it really gonna come down to legalities so I can protect myself from you? Quit contacting me, good god go find someone else to stalk.

I actually feel sorry for you and you have my sympathy for your family having to endour your obvious mood swings, first you want to be friends you send me e-mails telling me how great Secure Aspects is then within a matter of hours it is a complete ripp off, then several hours later you apologize for what you said and want to be friends again. I have the emails with the tracking information if anyone wishes to see them. This is like a bad movie for myself and my family, I have been getting hang up calls also from Iraq, whats the point Nathan are you letting me know you have my number? Enough is enough man. Your obsession with me has gotten you in trouble with the BOP and now you are using company bandwidth in Iraq to continue your obsession with me?

Nathan you have some real issues man and I am asking you that you go talk to someone for everyones benefit. This was amusing at first but now it is getting creepy. Look, if you can show me that you are talking to someone about your obvious issues then maybe we can sit down and talk about some of the issues you have with me. But until you see someone, your Bi-Polar mood swings just freak me out.

Seriously, take care and I hope it works out for the best with you.

Frank Sellers
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#8 Consumer Comment

E-mail to the Blue Knights President

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

This is an e-mail from myself to the Blue Knights President {the motorcycle club in which Frank Sellers belongs}. I will post his response later.

Sir,

I wanted to bring to your attention a member of your organization. His name is Frank Sellers and he lives in Texas. He has threatened me with bodily harm on the internet, and alluded to the fact that he would use his contacts with the Blue Knights to perform deeds unbecoming of Police Officers. Being a former Law Enforcement Officer myself, this blatant disregard and disrespect shown to you being an honorable fraternity of Law Enforcment Officers is despicaple and disgusting. Frank has harrassed me at work and has called my house and threatened my wife. I've already contacted both Federal and Local Law Enforcement in regards to this and there's an open investigation. I know that this doesnt reflect as a whole on your honorable organization. I just thought you should know what one of your members is representing in public. His threat alluding to collaborate with a network of currupt Police Officers in the form of the Blue Knights is below.



Sincerely,



Nathan Glover







Quote 'Nathan Glover you crossed the line when you implied I *(&^$% Jordanian *&^%$.. For the people that know me it is common knowledge that is enough to get your face caved in... Maybe he will let me have some of his Valuim to curb my violent tendencies LOOLOLOL. But all in due time if he circulates in this profession our paths will meet, I have no problem taking a Misdomeaner rap, the satisfaction will be worth it. Little does he know I was the First National President and Founder and belong to one of the biggest Law Enforcement motorcycle clubs with over 1600 members in the United States {Blue Knights}. My reach goes from Coast to Coast. The phone Calls have been made. Just hope he minds his P's and Q's... Its a terrible thing when you turn into a cops project not to mention a departments project. This is a perfect example why you should always be respectful of other because you just never know what they know or who they know'. End Quote by Frank Sellers www.secureaspects.com
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#9 Consumer Comment

Frank was fired from EODT, Triple Canopy and numerous Companies

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Frank Sellers has quite the track record when it comes to employment in the Private Military Contracting world. He has been fired from nearly every job he's been on due to lack of skills or not playing well with others. Recently someone told me that he was fired from EODT for poor performance. He was fired from Triple canopy for the same reason. How can this man spout that he's a formost exert in PSD when he cannot hold a job to save his life? He must be trying to make money through his site by "helping" others in the commmunity for a small fee of course. This person Frank Sellers is a bitter man and is trying to make money and exact revenge on a community that wants nothing to do with him. He is a sad sad man and needs to quit while he's ahead.
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#10 Consumer Comment

Frank why no rebuttal?

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Thankyou to the last rebuttal. Apparently Frank is just as unprofessional in person as he is online. I'm so shocked.
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#11 Consumer Suggestion

Have First Hand Knowledge Of Frank

AUTHOR: 23yearvet - (U.S.A.)

Well, I used to work with Frank in Baghdad (within the last 4 months) and know him personally. His employment was terminated and he protests that he was badly treated by our company. Yes he was terminated, but it wasn't bad treatment. It was a sensible act. The bosses did the right thing. He did in no way have the skills that were required for the job. You can only comment if you were there.

My 3 and a half years of security experience in Iraq gives me the right to say that.

As far as the Secure Aspects website is concerned, I did join as a memebr of the site, but have never joined in any of the discussions that have taken place. I would much rather take note of what others are spouting without feeling the need to join in with their prostelatizing. I find the site to have a large number of kiss-asses and lackeys who seem to be afraid to lodge any opinion that disagrees with any of the site admin or their cronies. Anyone that does disagree with site admin etc, is jumped upon and free disagreeing speech is severley punished with lambasting commentaries. The SA site is cronism at its' very best.

My humble opinon...take all that is said on the SA site with a huge grain of salt. As far as Frank is concerned, anyone that spouts to have contacts from coast to coast (and knows how to use them!) is obviously trying way too hard. He is a man of small character and only feels worthy when he acts like the big man on campus. He talks a lot says extremely little. As the Brits say "All mouth and no trousers" (Talks the talk, but definitely does not walk the walk).

Ignore the loud ones. Only take notice of the quiet ones. They have the most to say.
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#12 Author of original report

Bwa ha ha ha... cant stop laughing...

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Truly indicative of the postings on unSecureaspects.com. I suppose that's what you get when you allow 13 year old kids on your site. What are the age requirements again frank? 13 years old right? LOL. And to think after all the cursing you did. For shame, someones little johnny boy might have heard you. LOL. And here I thought for a second that at least one person from frank's camp would make a well argued and mature response/rebuttal. I'm not holding my breath. The best arguement put forth just entrenched my original posting on this site. But I still could'nt beat frank's claim of leadership in an Outlaw Motorcycle Gang even if I tried. Bwa ha ha ha.

Oh, tear, check pulse......OK

Oh Well.......It's been fun

Enjoy Kiddies. Dont stay up too late, and eat your veggies.
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#13 Consumer Suggestion

Verification

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

I work in the high risk mall security industry and other government agencies that I can not disclose, but l can vouch for Mister Nathan. I can bear witness to some of his PSD Combat Missions. The others I can not due to the fact that most are still classified. Nathan is a highly trained operator that can climb a wall using special boots due to his mastery of ninjutsu. For those in the community who would like to verify my ID, my authorization code is: (((ROR redacted)))
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#14 UPDATE Employee

Dialogue

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Unfortunately, e-mail has taken place beween myself and the owner of the company {which wont be published here to respect his privacy} . This after I e-mailed him first to start a dialogue. It's still early so maybe he'll cool down after a few days and see the light. This never was intended as a personal attack on him. I think this website has provided enough public attention to protect me in case threats made against me are acted upon. That's one of the great things about this site. Everything gets documented and noone, not even myself, can delete what has been said. I think Frank is probably deep down a good guy. He just has a horrible temper and business sense with a touch of immaturity. This still needed to be published as I allways have to take threats seriously. He still has not tried to aleviate my fears of being assaulted, nor has he apologised for comments made. Once again, I appeal to folks at secureaspects better nature. And I suggest we move on. This rip-off report can actually turn into a positive thing if handled correctly.

thanks,
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#15 Author of original report

Also the threat made previously has been reported to the FBI as it contitutes a Federal Crime and is being investigated by numerous agencies.

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Yes, using a government computer would ensure that everything is recorded. That is a very good point and my work is aware of this ongoing harrassment. Please note Police report # 2008-40588, Lexington, Kentucky Police Department.

Also the threat made previously has been reported to the FBI as it contitutes a Federal Crime and is being investigated by numerous agencies.

Calling and harrassing my work only provides more evidence of Harrassment. You are not in my custody therefore I cannot possibly have committed a 'color of law' violation. Even if I did e-mail or visit your site from a government computor I made no threats to yourself and am free in 'surfing the web' or visiting any site that isnt filtered by said government agency. Signing in on a forum under an alias hardly contitutes abuse especially when a written threat has been made. The complaints made on this site and to yourself were made as a private citizen with a concern for his safety and that of his family's. I in no way imply that I work for a government agency and this complaint, police report, and FBI report have been made as a private citizen. Also any questions or information can reported to:

Tommy Gilbert
Criminal Complaints Division
150 N. Limestone, Suite 352
Lexington, Kentucky 40507
{859}226-1834

or Officer Cottrell
Lexington Fayette Urban County Police Department

or The FBI Criminal Complaints Division at
http://www.ic3.gov/

Thank you
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#16 Consumer Suggestion

Good suggestion

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

I could find someone to vouch for me if given the proper media. Definately not on this website..I think your suggestion is a good one. Where should this take place? It's not going to happen on here or on "secureaspects". What is secure about it?Maybe "neutral ground", with OPSEC being the primary concern. Via email?

Unfortunately, yes that was a crap resume that was recovered from another website. It was unprofessional and poorly written and I didnt think it was going to be online. We all have made mistakes in our careers. That doesnt mean that it's not true or that I'm a fraud. It means my resume was written in a fashion that would raise some red flags and that was capitalized on by a dog pile gone outta control perpetuated and instigated by the company owner. After threats made by himself in a very immature fashion. Why couldnt this suggestion have taken place then? If only reason had prevailed and not immature frathouse BS........

Unfortunately, yes secureaspects is frequented by people with real security backgrounds. Hopefully this site is also. So instead of labeling someone as a fraud, why not vet that individual and then if it's discovered that his resume sucks and he needs to tone some stuff down, or downplay other things why not hook a brother up with some advice? If that individual is discovered to be a fraud AFTER DUE PROCESS then so be it. I'm sure anyone who has been trained in PSD has run into individuals with the affore mentioned backgrounds. Does it seem that outlandish? And yes I did the guantlet run From Musayib to BIAP via TAMPA and RT. IRISH many times. I also completed 2 contracts in Iraq.

Am I the best thing since sliced bread? HELL NO. Was I embarrassed with that poorly written and unprofessional resume? YES. Does that mean that what is stated in said resume is false? NO. Does this mean I'm a fraud? HELL NO. Did the owner of Secureaspects make a threat online breaking Federal law? YES. Did I recieve an apology or due process? NO.

I still think this suggestion is a good one and if it solves this delema than more power to it. But until I recieve an apology and know that I'm not being threatened with physical violence this website stays. I'm not going to violate PERSEC or OPSEC just to clear my reputation on secureaspects. I would'nt place those that I hold in high regard in that position. You can find me online at other forums that have similar interests.

Thank you for you suggestion. It might just be the best thing out of secureaspects that I've seen yet. To save face this apology need not be made on this website or on secureaspects. My e-mail is well known by the owner. If vouching for needs to take place I have plenty of folks that will be glad to do so. I wont violate thier trust in the process however.

good day ,and thank you to Rip-off report.
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#17 Consumer Suggestion

Good suggestion

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

I could find someone to vouch for me if given the proper media. Definately not on this website..I think your suggestion is a good one. Where should this take place? It's not going to happen on here or on "secureaspects". What is secure about it?Maybe "neutral ground", with OPSEC being the primary concern. Via email?

Unfortunately, yes that was a crap resume that was recovered from another website. It was unprofessional and poorly written and I didnt think it was going to be online. We all have made mistakes in our careers. That doesnt mean that it's not true or that I'm a fraud. It means my resume was written in a fashion that would raise some red flags and that was capitalized on by a dog pile gone outta control perpetuated and instigated by the company owner. After threats made by himself in a very immature fashion. Why couldnt this suggestion have taken place then? If only reason had prevailed and not immature frathouse BS........

Unfortunately, yes secureaspects is frequented by people with real security backgrounds. Hopefully this site is also. So instead of labeling someone as a fraud, why not vet that individual and then if it's discovered that his resume sucks and he needs to tone some stuff down, or downplay other things why not hook a brother up with some advice? If that individual is discovered to be a fraud AFTER DUE PROCESS then so be it. I'm sure anyone who has been trained in PSD has run into individuals with the affore mentioned backgrounds. Does it seem that outlandish? And yes I did the guantlet run From Musayib to BIAP via TAMPA and RT. IRISH many times. I also completed 2 contracts in Iraq.

Am I the best thing since sliced bread? HELL NO. Was I embarrassed with that poorly written and unprofessional resume? YES. Does that mean that what is stated in said resume is false? NO. Does this mean I'm a fraud? HELL NO. Did the owner of Secureaspects make a threat online breaking Federal law? YES. Did I recieve an apology or due process? NO.

I still think this suggestion is a good one and if it solves this delema than more power to it. But until I recieve an apology and know that I'm not being threatened with physical violence this website stays. I'm not going to violate PERSEC or OPSEC just to clear my reputation on secureaspects. I would'nt place those that I hold in high regard in that position. You can find me online at other forums that have similar interests.

Thank you for you suggestion. It might just be the best thing out of secureaspects that I've seen yet. To save face this apology need not be made on this website or on secureaspects. My e-mail is well known by the owner. If vouching for needs to take place I have plenty of folks that will be glad to do so. I wont violate thier trust in the process however.

good day ,and thank you to Rip-off report.
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#18 Consumer Suggestion

Good suggestion

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

I could find someone to vouch for me if given the proper media. Definately not on this website..I think your suggestion is a good one. Where should this take place? It's not going to happen on here or on "secureaspects". What is secure about it?Maybe "neutral ground", with OPSEC being the primary concern. Via email?

Unfortunately, yes that was a crap resume that was recovered from another website. It was unprofessional and poorly written and I didnt think it was going to be online. We all have made mistakes in our careers. That doesnt mean that it's not true or that I'm a fraud. It means my resume was written in a fashion that would raise some red flags and that was capitalized on by a dog pile gone outta control perpetuated and instigated by the company owner. After threats made by himself in a very immature fashion. Why couldnt this suggestion have taken place then? If only reason had prevailed and not immature frathouse BS........

Unfortunately, yes secureaspects is frequented by people with real security backgrounds. Hopefully this site is also. So instead of labeling someone as a fraud, why not vet that individual and then if it's discovered that his resume sucks and he needs to tone some stuff down, or downplay other things why not hook a brother up with some advice? If that individual is discovered to be a fraud AFTER DUE PROCESS then so be it. I'm sure anyone who has been trained in PSD has run into individuals with the affore mentioned backgrounds. Does it seem that outlandish? And yes I did the guantlet run From Musayib to BIAP via TAMPA and RT. IRISH many times. I also completed 2 contracts in Iraq.

Am I the best thing since sliced bread? HELL NO. Was I embarrassed with that poorly written and unprofessional resume? YES. Does that mean that what is stated in said resume is false? NO. Does this mean I'm a fraud? HELL NO. Did the owner of Secureaspects make a threat online breaking Federal law? YES. Did I recieve an apology or due process? NO.

I still think this suggestion is a good one and if it solves this delema than more power to it. But until I recieve an apology and know that I'm not being threatened with physical violence this website stays. I'm not going to violate PERSEC or OPSEC just to clear my reputation on secureaspects. I would'nt place those that I hold in high regard in that position. You can find me online at other forums that have similar interests.

Thank you for you suggestion. It might just be the best thing out of secureaspects that I've seen yet. To save face this apology need not be made on this website or on secureaspects. My e-mail is well known by the owner. If vouching for needs to take place I have plenty of folks that will be glad to do so. I wont violate thier trust in the process however.

good day ,and thank you to Rip-off report.
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#19 Consumer Suggestion

Good suggestion

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

I could find someone to vouch for me if given the proper media. Definately not on this website..I think your suggestion is a good one. Where should this take place? It's not going to happen on here or on "secureaspects". What is secure about it?Maybe "neutral ground", with OPSEC being the primary concern. Via email?

Unfortunately, yes that was a crap resume that was recovered from another website. It was unprofessional and poorly written and I didnt think it was going to be online. We all have made mistakes in our careers. That doesnt mean that it's not true or that I'm a fraud. It means my resume was written in a fashion that would raise some red flags and that was capitalized on by a dog pile gone outta control perpetuated and instigated by the company owner. After threats made by himself in a very immature fashion. Why couldnt this suggestion have taken place then? If only reason had prevailed and not immature frathouse BS........

Unfortunately, yes secureaspects is frequented by people with real security backgrounds. Hopefully this site is also. So instead of labeling someone as a fraud, why not vet that individual and then if it's discovered that his resume sucks and he needs to tone some stuff down, or downplay other things why not hook a brother up with some advice? If that individual is discovered to be a fraud AFTER DUE PROCESS then so be it. I'm sure anyone who has been trained in PSD has run into individuals with the affore mentioned backgrounds. Does it seem that outlandish? And yes I did the guantlet run From Musayib to BIAP via TAMPA and RT. IRISH many times. I also completed 2 contracts in Iraq.

Am I the best thing since sliced bread? HELL NO. Was I embarrassed with that poorly written and unprofessional resume? YES. Does that mean that what is stated in said resume is false? NO. Does this mean I'm a fraud? HELL NO. Did the owner of Secureaspects make a threat online breaking Federal law? YES. Did I recieve an apology or due process? NO.

I still think this suggestion is a good one and if it solves this delema than more power to it. But until I recieve an apology and know that I'm not being threatened with physical violence this website stays. I'm not going to violate PERSEC or OPSEC just to clear my reputation on secureaspects. I would'nt place those that I hold in high regard in that position. You can find me online at other forums that have similar interests.

Thank you for you suggestion. It might just be the best thing out of secureaspects that I've seen yet. To save face this apology need not be made on this website or on secureaspects. My e-mail is well known by the owner. If vouching for needs to take place I have plenty of folks that will be glad to do so. I wont violate thier trust in the process however.

good day ,and thank you to Rip-off report.
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#20 Consumer Suggestion

Suggestion

AUTHOR: Individual Consumer - (Iraq)

Nathan,

After visiting Secureaspects.com and reading the threads about you, it seems that it started out with you pretending to be an individual suffering from PTSD. Then somebody found and posted your resume that's available online. Your resume was scrutinized by a community with real security backgrounds, and now you have been labeled as a fraud.

If your trying to redeem your reputation, my suggestion is for you to find any of your PSD instructors or mentors from Delta Force, Seal Team 6, and Red Cell, and have anyone of them vouch for you. Your resume states that you have somewhere around 40 Combat Patrols as a PSD in and out of Baghad to the Sunni Triangle, and you were chosen for a contract based on your expertise with land mine warfare, I'm sure you can find at least 1 individual who you have worked with that can defend your stated expertise.
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#21 Author of original report

Frank Sellers does not deny written threat!

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Frank Sellers owner/operator of Secureaspects.com has responded with a rebuttal in the form of claiming that I'm mentally ill. Notice that he does not deny his written threat that he made to me. Notice also, that his cohorts do not deny this also, and continue to slander without responding to or alluding to the threat that Frank made on his company website. This proves culpability by members of secureaspects.com and most importantly Frank Sellers of conspiracy to defame, harrass, and threaten an honest citizen of the United States of America. I think the case is closed and the proof is here. Judging by Franks immature rebuttal I think all who view this know where the truth lies.

Thank you,

Annonymous
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#22 Author of original report

The threat once again

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

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"You crossed the line when you implied I *(&^$% Jordanian *&^%$.. For the people that know me it is common knowledge that is enough to get your face caved in... Maybe he will let me have some of his Valuim to curb my violent tendencies LOOLOLOL. But all in due time if he circulates in this profession our paths will meet, I have no problem taking a Misdomeaner rap, the satisfaction will be worth it. Little does he know I was the First National President and Founder and belong to one of the biggest Law Enforcement motorcycle clubs with over 1600 members in the United States. My reach goes from Coast to Coast. The phone Calls have been made. Just hope he minds his P's and Q's... Its a terrible thing when you turn into a cops project not to mention a departments project. This is a perfect example why you should always be respectful of other because you just never know what they know or who they know".

End Quote by Frank Sellers www.secureaspects.com
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#23 Consumer Comment

Maturity and descretion in business.

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

I still propose a mediation between Rip-off report and the two parties involved. All this party wants is for all threads and posts inside those threads on Franks forum with my name on it or with any of my information to dissapear. That's all this is about. Well besides Frank's attempts to appear as part of an Outlaw Motocycle Gang leader. How embarrassing! That is against the law. Not to mention very immature.

You cant threaten online especially if you are the president of the company. I think Frank's actions and the actions of some of his membership are deplorable and downright nasty. If I were a client I sure would'nt want the crew from Animal House protecting me. I'm hoping all the PMC's are watching this because you've been exposed Frank. Your a violent malcontent with narsicistic personalty disorder with horrible grammar and people skills. See I can do it too.

I dont see how you can say that you're professional. You are anathema to all that is professional. Well you've exposed yourself to the world and now they know that you use peoples identities and good names as so much barter while you play spades. I'm not a game, this is real life and what goes around comes around.

Frank I'm sure is at this moment thinking about this and spending every single waking minute trying to figure out how he can get back at me. His ego is probably shattered as well as his dreams of owning his own mercenary company someday. All this going down the tiolet because you just couldnt be a nice guy after numerous chances to be one. Right now I see him, he's making his "phone calls" to his motorcycle thugs to come and beat me up or worse. That's a rough way to go. stress causes cancer. To all the other secureaspects minions who've responded thus far, Life is short be nice......I'm sure the next Govt contractor you apply to will love that you belong to an organized criminal element.

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#24 UPDATE Employee

Someone call the loony catchers

AUTHOR: Joey - (U.S.A.)

Please someone get this guy some help ! I have been reading (Mr. Anonymous,Mall ninja, N0 GO!)Nathan's post on other forums for several years now. His first appearance dubbed the mall ninja , where he claimed to be a special response mall security superman, was laughable if not for the obvious realization of his mental instability. This was made clear as others commented and called him out on his BS and suddenly a friend of his appeared to back his story up. Coincidently it was found to be him signing in under a different name with the same IP address.

This type incident has become his MO. He comes into a forum spouts some BS about how he is high speed and has all this experience and training. For those of us who actually have the background he is easily found to be a liar and called on it. This of course makes him look like the idiot and he gets mad and pulls stupid crap like filing a bogus report to try and blackmail those that have him pegged as a liar. After reading his drivel I find it hard to believe that anyone would consider him anything but a delusional liar with serious identity issues.

As to his comments on Secure Aspects and Frank well, once again his view of reality is clouded and he obviously has been off his medication again. My relationship with the Secure Aspects web site started several years ago as I was looking for information about security contracting. After much wasted time on sites that we all basically useless I was invited to Secure Aspects by Frank who I spoke with on another forum. Since that time I have been a active member and also serve as an Admin for the site. One of things that lead me to accept the privilege of serving in this capacity was Franks total commitment to provide and maintain a professional forum .

Part of his vision was to give active and seeking professional contractors a place to share information. To this day Secure Aspects is one of the premier sites for professional contractors to network, share information, post job opportunities, and receive advice and guidance. For this individual to try and tarnish the reputation and importance of the site as well as Frank is vile and reprehensible at best. It is appalling that a individual that has been found to be a delusional liar, by all that deal with him, is even allowed the time or opportunity to try to taint the reputation of this fine organization of professional men .

Now to address his claims.. First he states that His individual information was posted. This is true you can find his information, what is not true is that Frank or any of the Admins or moderators posted it. He posted his own information which most know is not a good idea. Clue one to his true lack of experience ! Second he claims that Frank slandered his good name and reputation causing him financial harm . Well again his reality is clearly relative to his delusions. His ludicrous claims, out right lies, and aimless ramblings are what has lead everyone to draw their own conclusions of this individual.

He chose to come to Secure Aspects, he was not sought out by our community and quite frankly, due to his prior actions, he was not wanted. His third claim of Frank "shamelessly" making money by duping people with claims of gaining knowledge of the industry. I can personally call this allegation a total and complete lie! I along with many many others have gained employment directly or though contacts associated with Secure Aspects and it's membership. Some of the top security companies in the world have representatives that are apart of the site and use it as a recruitment tool to find top quality professionals to fill positions. The Idea that so many professionals from LE, Military and Private Security could be "doped" again gives you an Idea of Mr. G's lack of judgment .

In conclusion, This complaint is unfounded. It is concocted by an individual that has proven himself to be unprofessional, untruthful, and unstable. Much like everything he says, this complaint is a figment of his imagination. He is a desperate man in need of hiding the true facts about his lack of experience and his made up reality. His accusations against Secure Aspects are purely the effort to try and blackmail Frank into helping him hide those facts by deleting his comments and information.

Such an act of hiding facts would possibly place individuals in harms way, and will never be accepted by Frank or the nearly 1800 members of Secure Aspects. It is part of our professional duty to hold individuals like Mr. G to the truth. The truth of who he is and what he stands for, in order to protect those that unfortunately come into contact with him or worse has to work with him. Unlike him , Secure Aspects is a professional group that serves their country and community honestly and wholeheartedly . They do it on their true experience and not made up fantasies. We all come together and share experiences, information and fellowship by the vision that Frank had and maintains through Secure Aspects. He has great support and credibility from the staff and members of Secure Aspects.

The contributions made to the security industry by Frank and Secure Aspects far outweigh the pitiful delusional ramblings this individuals. He is desperate to keep the truth hidden but Secure Aspects is not the place that will happen nor the community to help him!
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#25 Consumer Comment

Response to Secure Aspects Blog

AUTHOR: Mickworldwide - (United Kingdom)

I have read the comments posted on this site regarding Frank Sellers and I would like to respond to the author.

I have been a contractor for several years and the concept of secure Aspects is entirely honorable. Many other Law Enforcement Officers, Contractors, Company owners and former military personnel have used the forum boards and job listings as a good source of information and work leads.

Frank is on the most part courteous and welcoming to guests and members and runs a professional site for professional operators. If you fail to follow the rules or embelish your background you will be removed.

That is where this person has a gripe. HE posted his personnal details in a public forum and jepordised his own personnal security, HE made threats and attempted to slander the officers of this forum, HE then tried to spam post the forum with his ripoffreport in a bid to discredit Frank and the webpages.

The amount of membership cash asked to become a full member is minimal and Frank is far from a fraud, the jobpages are regularly updated with current vacant situations and the forum is well regulated and full of useful information to all involved in the security industry.

The author of the report is obviously trying his best to discredit someone who found him out as a fake with a false cv.

Sour Grapes .... Not a rip off.
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#26 Author of original report

The Truth about secure aspects

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

The truth is that Frank and his minions continue to threaten, conjole, and slander an otherwise upstanding individuals name. They also continue to support his criminal behavior. Frank Sellers is a public figure as he is the owner of a company. I'm a private citizen and in no way does this Rip-Off report represent a "Federal Agency". A company is legally guilty of libel if the owner "has knowledge" that the slander occured, or partook, or allowed others to partake in the slander when he had knowledge of the slander taking place.

(((ROR redacted)))

Instead of digging yourselves deeper. Why not just erase the information you have on a certain individual and maybe the good folks at Rip-Off report can mediate a very modest settlement. Which would consist of my name being kept off of your forum and mine and my families lives not threatened anymore. I think damage has been done needlessly to both parties. And if the staff at secureaspects.com were as good natured as they say they are this report never would have happened. Please, I appeal to your better nature, Frank and staff at secureaspects. Let it go.......Let's move on.

Thank you Rip-Off report,

Annonymous

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
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#27 Consumer Comment

The Truth About SecureAspects.com and the anonymous complaintant

AUTHOR: Dan - (U.S.A.)

My name is Dan. I have been a member of the Secure Aspects forum for almost one year now. I have no complaints about the forum. It is a great website that really serves it's members well as a place to network, discuss relevant issues to the security industry, and to talk with like minded individuals. Thanks to networking with people on this site, I was able to achieve my goals and gain employment with a very reputable company in the security industry. In my opinion, Secure Aspects is a great place and I have not had any issues with anyone: administrators, moderators, or other members.

This complaint has been filed anonymously, but all of the members at Secure Aspects know that this was posted by a former member named Nathan Glover. We all know this, because even though he was banned from the site, he still returned to post the link to his complaint he filed on Ripoff Report and to make demands from the forum staff. I have read nearly every single one of Nathan's posts. He has made numerous claims that did not make very much sense and some that were so outrageous, that other members started looking into the claims he had made. When it was found that he was obviously making untrue statements about his past and several other things, he was banned from the site by the owner, Frank. This was applauded by the other members of the site as Nathan, who had started out as an amusing joke to most, became an annoyance. He has made numerous attempts to sign back on to the forum under different aliases and has subsequently been banned again and again.

As for his claims that his personal information was posted on the site, it was... by Nathan. He posted his personal information on an open forum and also posted his resume, to include a picture of himself, on another website that other members of the forum frequent as well. Nathan has shown a remarkable level of immaturity and has completely tarnished his own name. No one else had to help him do any of that. He did it to himself and continues to do so.

I fully stand behind Frank, the administrators and moderators at Secure Aspects, and the Secure Aspects website one hundred percent. They have done nothing wrong and if anything have a viable case against Nathan for bringing up these frivolous and completely false accusations. I hope that this is put to rest soon and that Nathan is put in his place and exposed for what he truly is... A very immature person, with extreme problems, and a hyper-active imagination. Thank you.
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#28 Consumer Comment

The Truth About SecureAspects.com and the anonymous complaintant

AUTHOR: Dan - (U.S.A.)

My name is Dan. I have been a member of the Secure Aspects forum for almost one year now. I have no complaints about the forum. It is a great website that really serves it's members well as a place to network, discuss relevant issues to the security industry, and to talk with like minded individuals. Thanks to networking with people on this site, I was able to achieve my goals and gain employment with a very reputable company in the security industry. In my opinion, Secure Aspects is a great place and I have not had any issues with anyone: administrators, moderators, or other members.

This complaint has been filed anonymously, but all of the members at Secure Aspects know that this was posted by a former member named Nathan Glover. We all know this, because even though he was banned from the site, he still returned to post the link to his complaint he filed on Ripoff Report and to make demands from the forum staff. I have read nearly every single one of Nathan's posts. He has made numerous claims that did not make very much sense and some that were so outrageous, that other members started looking into the claims he had made. When it was found that he was obviously making untrue statements about his past and several other things, he was banned from the site by the owner, Frank. This was applauded by the other members of the site as Nathan, who had started out as an amusing joke to most, became an annoyance. He has made numerous attempts to sign back on to the forum under different aliases and has subsequently been banned again and again.

As for his claims that his personal information was posted on the site, it was... by Nathan. He posted his personal information on an open forum and also posted his resume, to include a picture of himself, on another website that other members of the forum frequent as well. Nathan has shown a remarkable level of immaturity and has completely tarnished his own name. No one else had to help him do any of that. He did it to himself and continues to do so.

I fully stand behind Frank, the administrators and moderators at Secure Aspects, and the Secure Aspects website one hundred percent. They have done nothing wrong and if anything have a viable case against Nathan for bringing up these frivolous and completely false accusations. I hope that this is put to rest soon and that Nathan is put in his place and exposed for what he truly is... A very immature person, with extreme problems, and a hyper-active imagination. Thank you.
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#29 Consumer Comment

The Truth About SecureAspects.com and the anonymous complaintant

AUTHOR: Dan - (U.S.A.)

My name is Dan. I have been a member of the Secure Aspects forum for almost one year now. I have no complaints about the forum. It is a great website that really serves it's members well as a place to network, discuss relevant issues to the security industry, and to talk with like minded individuals. Thanks to networking with people on this site, I was able to achieve my goals and gain employment with a very reputable company in the security industry. In my opinion, Secure Aspects is a great place and I have not had any issues with anyone: administrators, moderators, or other members.

This complaint has been filed anonymously, but all of the members at Secure Aspects know that this was posted by a former member named Nathan Glover. We all know this, because even though he was banned from the site, he still returned to post the link to his complaint he filed on Ripoff Report and to make demands from the forum staff. I have read nearly every single one of Nathan's posts. He has made numerous claims that did not make very much sense and some that were so outrageous, that other members started looking into the claims he had made. When it was found that he was obviously making untrue statements about his past and several other things, he was banned from the site by the owner, Frank. This was applauded by the other members of the site as Nathan, who had started out as an amusing joke to most, became an annoyance. He has made numerous attempts to sign back on to the forum under different aliases and has subsequently been banned again and again.

As for his claims that his personal information was posted on the site, it was... by Nathan. He posted his personal information on an open forum and also posted his resume, to include a picture of himself, on another website that other members of the forum frequent as well. Nathan has shown a remarkable level of immaturity and has completely tarnished his own name. No one else had to help him do any of that. He did it to himself and continues to do so.

I fully stand behind Frank, the administrators and moderators at Secure Aspects, and the Secure Aspects website one hundred percent. They have done nothing wrong and if anything have a viable case against Nathan for bringing up these frivolous and completely false accusations. I hope that this is put to rest soon and that Nathan is put in his place and exposed for what he truly is... A very immature person, with extreme problems, and a hyper-active imagination. Thank you.
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#30 Consumer Comment

The Truth About SecureAspects.com and the anonymous complaintant

AUTHOR: Dan - (U.S.A.)

My name is Dan. I have been a member of the Secure Aspects forum for almost one year now. I have no complaints about the forum. It is a great website that really serves it's members well as a place to network, discuss relevant issues to the security industry, and to talk with like minded individuals. Thanks to networking with people on this site, I was able to achieve my goals and gain employment with a very reputable company in the security industry. In my opinion, Secure Aspects is a great place and I have not had any issues with anyone: administrators, moderators, or other members.

This complaint has been filed anonymously, but all of the members at Secure Aspects know that this was posted by a former member named Nathan Glover. We all know this, because even though he was banned from the site, he still returned to post the link to his complaint he filed on Ripoff Report and to make demands from the forum staff. I have read nearly every single one of Nathan's posts. He has made numerous claims that did not make very much sense and some that were so outrageous, that other members started looking into the claims he had made. When it was found that he was obviously making untrue statements about his past and several other things, he was banned from the site by the owner, Frank. This was applauded by the other members of the site as Nathan, who had started out as an amusing joke to most, became an annoyance. He has made numerous attempts to sign back on to the forum under different aliases and has subsequently been banned again and again.

As for his claims that his personal information was posted on the site, it was... by Nathan. He posted his personal information on an open forum and also posted his resume, to include a picture of himself, on another website that other members of the forum frequent as well. Nathan has shown a remarkable level of immaturity and has completely tarnished his own name. No one else had to help him do any of that. He did it to himself and continues to do so.

I fully stand behind Frank, the administrators and moderators at Secure Aspects, and the Secure Aspects website one hundred percent. They have done nothing wrong and if anything have a viable case against Nathan for bringing up these frivolous and completely false accusations. I hope that this is put to rest soon and that Nathan is put in his place and exposed for what he truly is... A very immature person, with extreme problems, and a hyper-active imagination. Thank you.
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#31 UPDATE Employee

Rip-Off Report 313547 is False and Unsubstantiated

AUTHOR: Chase - (U.S.A.)

Nathan filed this complaint because he was banned (on multiple occassions) from Secure Aspects for misrepresntation, falsifying his credentials, and violating PERSEC...He claimed to be former special forces, attended training that was not verifiable, claimed to know other operators who deny knowing or ever meeting him, false deployments, and reduced himself to the same level of unprofessionalism, beligerance, and slander he claims the owner of Secure Aspects did.

This is simply not true, we have all the documentation and threads that Mr. Glover posted including his own embellished resume with his name and contact information.

Nathan initiated the thread, continued the posts while clearly demonstrating his psychological instability, admitted to using narcotics, admitted to having a history of psychiatric disorders, admitted to having a drinking problem, used foul language and called out a number of other operators into the frey.

This specific report was filed because he sent the owner a letter apologizing for his behavior and asking to be re-instated as a member of Secure Aspects...During this time, he logged-in under several different user names using the same IP address and was denied access...In all fairness, Mr. Sellers decided to poll the membership to allow Mr. Glover an opportunity to be allowed to participate within the forum, but before the poll was completed, this report was filed.

Mr. G is also stating a Federal Law Enforcement affiliation and has been using the agencies computers, resources, and time to conduct his personal vendetta against Secure Aspects and Frank Sellars...This constitutes harrassment, slander, and abuse of official capacity.

How can 1500 security contractors, active duty personnel, retired military, active and retired LE, and special forces personnel all be wrong? Perhaps it would be in the best interest of Rip-Off Report to join the forum and see for yourself what kind of person Nathan Glover claims to be...If you had seen his threads first, then you would not have entertained the filing of this complaint.

Respectfully,

Chase
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