Singsnap singsnap, eatsleepmusic, trevor mcguire, muzikmama fraud ottawa, Ontario

On August 25th, 2011 a lawsuit was filed against SingSnap.com founder and CEO Trevor McGuire as well as three other members of the SingSnap website. This lawsuit filed in Pennsylvania Federal Court by Diane Patchen and her fianc Robert Smik, alleged, among other things, a conspiracy to defame and copyright infringement. Eatsleepmusic Corporation, owner of SingSnap, was later added as a defendant.

Diane Patchen was banned from the SingSnap community in February of 2010 and soon after made numerous inaccurate posts around the web regarding Mr. McGuire and his business. Filing this lawsuit against him was, Mr. McGuire believes, the culmination of her vendetta. As soon as the lawsuit was filed, it was publicized on dozens of Internet complaint boards by anonymous posters.

McGuire and SingSnap immediately retained counsel to fight these ridiculous and baseless allegations.

On September 27th, 2012 the Judge William H. Yohn Jr. of the United States District Court DISMISSED all of the Plaintiffs claims and Denied the motion for severance and transfer of the claims as not in the interests of justice because the claims were frivolous. The parties later resolved the litigation, including motions by McGuire and Eatsleepmusic Corporation seeking sanctions and their attorneys fees, to the satisfaction of all parties.

APPARENTLY SINGSNAP SUPPORT SINGSNAP STAFF WHO EVER IT IS PROBABLY SOMEBODY FROM THE SITE THAT TREVOR BOUGHT THEM SINGSNAPSUCKS.COM BUT IT IS ALL THE SAME BULLSHIT 
CAUSE APPARENTLY SINGSNAP SUPPORT HAS FORGOTTEN OF HOW THAT STAFF CAME TO MY YOUTUBE LAST YEAR AND DELETED ALL OF THE VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE HAD AN ADMIN DO IT WHICH GOT HIM FIRED 
BY THE WAY FOR IT , INTO GOING INTO MY YOUTUBE ACCOUNT AND DELETING ALL OF THE VIDEOS ON THERE EVERY SINGLE ONE INCLUDING 4 OF THEM THAT WAS NOT AND DID NOT BELONG TO SINGSNAP BUT DID YOU GIVE A FLYING f**k HELL NO  , DID YOU COME TO ME AND ASK ME TO TAKE DOWN MY VIDEOS WHICH I WOULD OF GLADLY OF DID , HELL NO YOU JUST TOOK IT UPON YOURSELVES SINGSNAP SUPPORT AKA STAFF AND HAD THE ADMIN OF YOUTUBE LET YOU INTO MY ACCOUNT AND DELETE THAT VIDEOS AND IF THAT WASN'T A SLAP IN THE FACE ALSO HAD THEM GET RID OF MY CHANNEL ON YOUTUBE NOT MY ACCOUNT MIND YOU JUST THE CHANNEL TO SHOW THAT YOU GOT THE AUTHORITY OVER ME AND WHAT DID I DO WHEN FOUND THIS LITTLE VIOLATION OF YOURS ON MY PERSONAL CHANNEL , MADE A NEW ONE AND GOT A NEW KARAOKE SITE THE KARAOKE CHANNEL ONLINE.COM AND USED THEIR VIDEOS WITHOUT HAVING TO USE ANOTHER STINKING BAD LYRICS SONG TRACK FROM SINGSNAP EVER AGAIN AND LETS FACE IT SINGSNAP SUPPORT YOU WOULDN'T NEED 4 OR 5 SONG TRACKS IF NONE OF THE LYRICS WERE CORRECT , ATLEAST ON THE KARAOKE CHANNEL ONLINE.COM WHO ALLOW IT'S MEMBERS TO PUT THEIR VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE HAVE SONGS WITH THE CORRECT LYRICS AND DON'T NEED 4 OR 5 SONG TRACKS BECAUSE OF BAD LYRICS .
OH AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO MY ACCOUNT ON SINGSNAP.COM IT GOT SUSPENDED BECAUSE I SPOKE OUT AGAINST THE FAVORITE a*s KISSERS OF SINGSNAP STAFF WHO KEEP GOING ON THE MESSAGE BOARD RECOMENDING TO OTHER MEMBERS THAT THIS MEMBER CANNOT SING DON'T GO LISTEN TO THEM WHICH IN FACT THE MEMBER CAN SING BEAUTIFULLY IT'S JUST THAT MEMBER DID NOT SING LIKE THE ORIGINAL ARTIST OF THE SONG WHICH SO SO SO MANY MEMBERS a*s KISSER OF COURSE HAVE TO HAVE OTHER MEMBERS DO , THEY ARE LIKE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO HAVE THINGS JUST RIGHT OR THEIR WHOLE DAY IS f**kED UP AND HAVE TO DO A TABLE OR A LIVING ROOM ALL OVER AGAIN UNTIL IT'S JUST RIGHT , AND WHEN I SAID ABOUT THESE a*s KISSING MEMBERS OF THE STAFF OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING ON MY PAGE THEY WENT AND TOLD THEIR MOMMY STAFF MEMBERS THAT I WAS PICKING ON THEM AND HAD TO GET ME SUSPENDED CAUSE NOOOOOOBODY f**kS WITH THE FAVORITE MEMBERS OF SINGSNAP STAFF , AND IF YOU ARE ARE NOT A FAVORITE MEMBER OF THE STAFFS THEN YOU CANNOT OR WILL NOT PUT VIDEOS OF SINGSNAP ON YOUTUBE WHICH IS WHY 20 MEMBERS OF SINGSNAP WENT TO THE KARAOKE CHANNEL ONLINE.COM KARAOKE SITE BECAUSE OF THE STAFF DOING THE SAME f**kING THEM TO THEM AS THEY DID TO ME DELETING VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE AND HAVING ADMINS DELETE THE CHANNEL THINKING THAT THOSE MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT THE a*s KISSERS ARE MINDLESS NAIVE MEMBERS WHO OBEY WITHOUT QUESTION , WHICH IS WHY LADYMATIKA , ME GOT SUSPENDED I REFUSED TO KISS a*s AND TAKE ORDERS ANY MORE LIKE A FRIGGIN STEPFORD WIFE OR CHILD , I AM NOT A MINDLESS PERSON YOU CAN PUSH AROUND ANY MORE WHICH IS THE PROBLEM , YOU SUSPENDED ME AND NOW TEHEHE YOU CANNOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO ANY MORE WHICH IS THE PROBLEM YOU ARE HAVING WITH SUSPENDED MEMBERS SINGSNAP SUPPORT AND STAFF AND SINGSNAPSUCKS.COM YOU THINK IN YOUR OWN PERFECT LITTLE WORLD YOU CAN AND THAT SUSPENDED MEMBERS EVEN THOUGH YOU SUSPENDED THEM WITH SIT AND OBEY WELL GUESS WHAT AND THIS IS LADYMATIKA TALKING THE PERSON WHO YOU THOUGHT WAS MINDLESS AND NAIVE AND SO STUPID , YOU KNOW WHAT I SAY TO YOU AND YOUR OBEYING ORDERS.
AND YOUR OH SO FAVORITE a*s KISSING MEMBERS AND YOUR SITE , 

WRITE IT ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND THEN ROLL IT UP AND 
STICK IT UP YOUR BIG FAT f**kING a*s !!!!!!!!!!!

SINGSNAP.COM AND SINGSNAPSUCKS.COM ARE THE ONLY SITES YOU CAN CONTROL ANY SUSPENDED MEMBER CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT WHERE THEY WANT AND HOW THEY WANT WITH THEIR SINGING VOICES AND THEIR NICKNAMES BECAUSE IT IS THEIRS IT BELONGS TO THEM YOU CANNOT CONTROL SUSPENDED MEMBERS ANY MORE , YOU CAN TRY LIKE HELL BUT YOU WILL JUST BE WAISTING YOUR TIME , THE MORE YOU TRY AND TRY AND TRY AND TRY GOD KNOWS HOW MANY TIMES SINGSNAP STAFF AND SINGSNAPSUCKS HAS TRIED TO GET MANTHISSITESUCKS.COM SUSPENDED MEMBERS OF SINGSNAP OFF THE INTERNET AND STILL THEY ARE STILL ON THE INTERNET ONLY WEBSITES YOU SINGSNAP STAFF AND SINGSNAP SUPPORT CAN CONTROL WITHOUT A DOUBT IS SINGSNAPSUCKS.COM AND SINGSNAP THAT'S IT MAN NOTHING ELSE CAN YOU CONTROL , THE SUSPENDED MEMBERS OF SINGSNAP CAN GO ANY WHERE THEY WANT TO SING ANY WHERE THEY WANT TO DO ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ON THE INTERNET AND YOU CANNOT ALTHOUGH YOU KEEP TRYING LIKE HELL CANNOT DO A THING ABOUT IT .
AND IT MAKES ME LAUGH OUT LOUD WHEN YOU TRY TO HELL I EVEN SAY ABOUT ON FACEBOOK WHEN SOMEBODY FROM SINGSNAP SUCKS.COM OR SINGSNAP TRY TO COME ONTO YOUTUBE AND TELL THEM TO GET RID OF MY a*s LOL
OH YEAH AND AS FOR THE YOUTUBE ADMIN THAT SINGSNAP STAFF HAD THEM LET INTO MY ACCOUNT ON YOUTUBE , MMMMMMMMMMM I GOT THAT SUCKER f**kING FIRED BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET RID OF MY CHANNEL WITHOUT THE STAFF OR OWNER OF YOUTUBE NOT SINGSNAP YOUTUBE'S PERMISSION , SO SINGSNAP STAFF YOU GOT SOMEBODY FIRED FOR LETTING YOU INTO MY CHANNEL WILL IT MAKE YOU FEEL BAD FOR HAVING SOMEBODY LOSE THEIR JOB ????
f**k NO THEY DID WHAT YOU WANTED THEM TO DO THEY SERVED THEIR PURPOSE .
DO YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT SUSPENDED A MEMBER WHO WAS A MEMBER OF SINGSNAP FOR SIX f**kING YEARS AND WAS ONE OF THE ONES WHO WAS INVITE ONLY (PFT)
f**k NO , I SERVED MY PURPOSE ALSO I GOT SINGSNAP MEMBERS FROM BIX AND KSOLO AND SINGSHOT DIDN'T NEED MY STUPID f**kING a*s AFTER THAT DIDN'T NEED LADYMATIKA AROUND NO MORE AND I PISSED OFF A FAVORITE MEMBER OF THE STAFF BECAUSE SHE GOT BLOCKED AND BANNED FROM VIEWING A FRIEND OF MINE WHO THIS STUPID FAVORITE MEMBER KEPT TELLING A CHRISTIAN FRIEND OF MINE ON SINGSNAP EVERY DAY IN EMAIL WHICH HE HATES THAT s**t THAT IF HE DOESN'T GET RID OF ME AS A FRIEND SHE'D HAVE THE STAFF DO IT AND 2 WEEKS LATER YOU STUPID MOTHERS LISTENED TO HER AND I AM SUSPENDED REASONS , OH JUST THE SAME d**n REASONS EVERYBODY ELSE YOU WRONGLY SUSPENDED AND WANTED RID OF GOT , I BROKE THE CODE OF CONDUCT UNBECOMING A SINGSNAP MEMBER , MAN THAT EXCUSE IS GETTING OLD BETTER COME UP WITH A NEW ONE CAUSE THAT ONE IS PLANTED ALL OVER THE INTERNET , THANKS TO LADYMATIKA WHO BY THE WAY IS ME , SEE UM YA SUSPENDED ME WHICH MEANS YOU DO NOT GET TO KEEP MY NAME , YOUR FAVORITE MEMBERS MAY WANT THEIR CHILDREN OR THEIR FRIENDS TO USE MY NAME BUT NO WAY BABY IT'S MINE YOU TRY TO LET ANYBODY ELSE USE IT AND THE BBB GETS CONTACTED AND LADYMATIKA IS ALL OVER THE PLACE HELL MAN I EVEN USE ON SOUNDCHOICE.COM WHO LET ME BUY SONGS JUST LIKE I HAD ON SINGSNAP , AND SO DOES CHARTBUSTER , I WOULD ZOOM BUT I DON'T LIKE THEIR SONG TRACKS , OH AND YOU KNOW WHAT THESE SITES THAT I JUST MENTIONED SAID WHEN I TOLD THEM SINGSNAP SUSPENDED ME AND WHY , WELL THEY MADE A BIG MISTAKE THEIR BECAUSE YOU SING BEAUTIFULLY , THEIR LOSS IS WHO EVERS GAIN AND TRUST ME JUST CAUSE SINGSNAP SUPPORT ALIAS STAFF MEMBERS SUSPENDED ME DOESN'T ME YOU STOPPED ME FROM SINGING OOOOOH ON THE CONTRARY I GOT SITES THAT WANT ME I GOT PROFESSIONAL WEBSITES THAT WANT ME AND A HELL OF A LOT MORE GOING FOR ME NOW SINCE I AM NO LONGER A SINGSNAP MEMBER , WHICH BY THE WAY YOU DID FOR NOTHING ASSHOLES I WAS LEAVING JULY 3RD I WAS GONE BABY GONE , ALL YOU THINK YOU DID WAS STOP ME FROM TALKING TO MY FRIENDS ON THERE , OOOOOOOOPS NO YA DIDN'T IT MY FRIENDS ON SINGSNAP ARE ALSO ON FACEBOOK AND A MUSIC NETWORK , BESIDES TERRIE'S MUZIC DRIVEN SITE I AM ALSO ON ANOTHER SITE ALL MY FRIENDS FROM BIX WHICH WILL NEVER DESERT ME BECAUSE OF SINGSNAP NO WAY NO HOW NOT IN THIS LIFETIME OR THE NEXT  , 
SEE STAFF OF SINGSNAP YOU THOUGHT YOU ENDED MY SINGING , HEHEHEHE, ALL YOU DID WAS JUST UNLOCK THE CHAIN YOU THOUGHT IN YOUR WORLD YOU HAD ON ME , SEE THIS IS HOW IT IS , LADYMATIKA IS ME , MY VOICE I SING WITH IS MINE , CAN'T CONTROL WHAT YOU NEVER OWNED IN THE FIRST PLACE , YEAH YOU THOUGHT YOU DID , BUT SEE THAT'S WHERE YOU MADE THE BIG FAT MISTAKE YOU THOUGHT YOU OWNED LADYMATIKA , BUT KEEP DREAMING HONEY CAUSE REALLY YOU NEVER OWNED ME THAT'S THE PROBLEM YOU THE STAFF OF SINGSNAP STILL THINK JUST CAUSE YOU SUSPENDED MEMBERS OF SINGSNAP THAT YOU STILL CAN CONTROL WHAT WE SAY OR DO AND WHERE WE CAN GO , BUT THE ONLY THING YOU CAN CONTROL IS SINGSNAP.COM AND SINGSNAPSUCKS.COM , ANY WHERE ELSE IS SUSPENDED MEMBERS PLAYGROUND AND WHERE YOU CANNOT TELL THEM WHAT TO DO OR CONTROL ANY MORE , YEAH THAT HAS TO HURT HUH , SEE ON SINGSNAP.COM YOU COULD CONTROL LADYMATIKA WHAT I SAID OR DID ON THERE BUT YOU DUMB-a*s'S SUSPENDED ME NOW YOU CANNOT CONTROL ME WORTH A d**n , HELL MAN YOU NEVER COULD I AM A WILD AND FREE SPIRIT AND YOU NEVER COULD CONTROL ME THAT'S WHY YOU GOT RID OF MY a*s , CAUSE I WASN'T A STEPFORD WIFE OR CHILD YOU TRIED TO CONTROL , BUT NOW IT'S REALLY PUCKERING UP YOUR a*s DESPERATELY TRYING TO CONTROL WHAT SUSPENDED MEMBERS SAY AND DO GOT THAT GOTTA HURT LIKE THE DICKENS NOT BEING ABLE TO CONTROL WHAT SUSPENDED MEMBERS DO , HEHEHEHE
MUST BE A TOTAL NIGHTMARE FOR SINGSNAP SUPPORT , KNOWING LADYMATIKA IS OUT THERE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST SINGSNAP TELLING MEMBERS ON FACEBOOK THAT THERE IS ANOTHER SITE TOTALLY BETTER THAN SINGSNAP AND WHO'S SONG TRACKS ARE BETTER AND ALSO HAS SONGS ON IT THAT SINGSNAP CANNOT GET BECAUSE OF THE LICENSE IN THE UNITED STATES , YEPPER , AS LONG AS I HAVE A VOICE AND THE INTERNET SINGSNAP MEMBERS WILL ALWAYS GET TO FIND THEIR FAVORITE ARTISTS THAT SINGSNAP CANNOT GET BECAUSE OF LICENSE WOW OOOOOOH THAT'S GOTTA f**kING HURT LIKE HELL YOU CAN'T SHUT ME THE f**k UP ABOUT IT , CAUSE ACTUALLY I'VE HAD 20 COUNT THEM 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20 MEMBERS OF SINGSNAP GOOOOOOOOOLD MEMBERS OF SINGSNAP COME AND ASK ME WHERE DID I GET THOSE SONGS FROM AND YEAH I TELL THEM BECAUSE DUUUUUUUUUUUUH I AM NOT A SINGSNAP MEMBER NO MORE SO I DON'T HAVE TO KEEP MY MOUTH f**kING SHUT TEHEHEHE , HELL A FAVORITE COUNTRY SINGER ON SINGSNAP JUST WENT OVER TO MY LITTLE OTHER SITE ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT REALLY LITTLE IT HAS THE SAME SONGS ON IT THAT SINGSNAP DOES AND A HELL OF A LOT MORE SONGS THAN SINGSNAP CAUSE IT'S GOT SONGS THAT SINGSNAP LOST TO THE DREADED LIC UH OH MEMBERS FIND THAT OUT I'LL BE GETTING EMAILS AGAIN HELL WHOLE d**n MONTH I'VE BEEN GETTING EMAILS FROM SINGSNAP MEMBERS WANTING THE SONGS I HAVE BEEN SINGING AND NONE OF THEM IS FROM SINGSNAP GOD I LOVE SAYING THAT SONGS I HAVE BEEN SINGING ON YOUTUBE FACEBOOK ECT , NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN FROM SINGSNAP CAUSE SINGSNAP STAFF f**kED ME OVER FOR A FAVORITE , WHO STILL TO THIS DAY CANNOT STILL GET TO LISTEN OR EMAIL MY FRIEND WHO SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO AFTER I WAS GONE HEHEHEHE SINGSNAP SUPPORT AKA STAFF SOME OF YOUR FAVORITES AREN'T TO SMART WHEN IT COMES TO MY FRIENDS NOW ARE THEY 
CAUSE I AM GONE YOU SAW TO THAT AND YET THAT GIRL WHO CALLED ME A CRAZY a*s b***h w***e TO MY FRIEND IS STILL BLOCKED FROM SEEING HIS VIDEOS AND WRITING TO HIM AND ALTHOUGH I CANNOT TALK TO HIM ON SINGSNAP OR LISTEN TO HIM SING ON SINGSNAP I CAN STILL TALK TO HIM AND LISTEN TO HIM SING ON ANOTHER SITE , AND SHE CAN'T LOL 
YEAH SHE REALLY f**kED THAT ONE UP DIDN'T SHE I CAN STILL HEAR HIM SING AND SHE CAN'T WOOOOOOOOOOW , AND I GOT SUSPENDED OVER THAT ,LOL 
THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT I CAN DO THAT SINGSNAP STAFF AND SUPPORT THOUGHT I WOULDN'T DO ANY MORE OH SPEAKING OF THAT , I'M ABOUT TO GO ON YOUTUBE WHICH YOU THOUGHT I WOULDN'T ANY MORE AND SING MY HEART OUT WHICH IS ANOTHER THING SINGSNAP THOUGHT I WOULDN'T DO ANY MORE , HMM YA CAN'T CONTROL ME , I CAN STILL TALK TO MY FRIENDS AND I CAN STILL SING AND MAKE VIDEOS , AND ALSO I DON'T HAVE TO PAY THROUGH THE NOSE ANY MORE FOR GOLD MEMBERSHIP TO SING THE SONGS I LOVE , BAHHAHA LOOKS LIKE WHAT SINGSNAP STAFF DID WAS f**k UP , ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO ME YOU d**n SURE f**kED UP , CAUSE I CAN STILL SING , I CAN STILL TALK TO MY FRIENDS AND LISTEN TO THEM SING ON ANOTHER SITE , AND I ONLY PAY 10 BUCKS A MONTH FOR MY OTHER SITE WHICH I WAS PAYING A HUNDRED AND SEVENTY BUCKS FOR SINGSNAP , HMMM WHO f**kED UP , UM YEAH SINGSNAP f**kED UP MAN YOU f**kED UP BIG TIME ~~~~~~~~
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ME YOU ALWAYS DID `````````

THEN IF YOUR ARE NOT A FAVORITE a*s KISSER OF SINGSNAP STAFF AND THE OWNER
THEN YOU CAN'T PUT ANY VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE BECAUSE THE STAFF WILL GO AND REMOVE THEM AND HAVE THE ADMINS DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT OR DID SINGSNAP SUPPORT AND WHO EVER THE STAFF MEMBER WRITING THAT s**t FORGET WHAT THEY f**kING DID TO LADYMATIKA 
OOOPS SO f**kING SORRY WASN'T SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD IN PUBLIC 
ALTHOUGH I GOT SUSPENDED FOR NO f**kING REASON EXCEPT THAT I SAID ON MY PAGE ABOUT HOW SOME MEMBERS WERE TELLING OTHER MEMBERS IN THE MESSAGE BOARD NOT TO LISTEN TO SOME MEMBERS WHO HAVE THE VOICES OF ANGELS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT SING THE SONG LIKE THE ORIGINAL ARTIST FRANKLY THAT s**t IS GETTING REALLY OLD ABOUT HOW MEMBERS OF SINGSNAP ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO USE YOUTUBE WHEN ABOUT OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND VIDEOS OF SINGSNAP MEMBERS ARE ON YOUTUBE UNDER THE NAME OF SINGSNAP OR DID SINGSNAP SUPPORT SUDDENLY GET ALZHEIMER'S AND FORGET WHAT THEY TOLD ALOT OF PEOPLE LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE WHICH IS WHY 20 MEMBERS LAST YEAR WENT TO THE KARAOKE CHANNEL ONLINE.COM BECAUSE OF STAFF GOING INTO YOUTUBE AND MAKING THE ADMIN LET THEM INTO A SINGSNAP MEMBER'S ACCOUNT AND PULLING THAT s**t .
AND BY THE WAY AS I SAID ON COUNTLESS OTHER SITES 4 OF THEM WAS NOT AND DID NOT BELONG TO SINGSNAP THEY WERE OF BIX , KSOLO , SINGSHOT AND MYSPACE KARAOKE BUT YOU DID NOT GIVE A FLYING f**k ABOUT THAT YOU JUST SAW SINGSNAP AND I AM NOT A FAVORITE WAS NOT A FAVORITE AND THANKS TO A LITTLE b***h WHO WAS A FAVORITE WILL NEVER BE A FAVORITE THANK GOD IN HEAVEN , I DON'T KISS a*s I WILL NEVER KISS a*s TO GET BACK ON SINGSNAP EVER f**kING AGAIN AFTER THE WAY I WAS TREATED BY THE STAFF AND DON'T SAY I WAS TREATED FAIRLY , ONLY THING THAT WAS TREATED FAILY WAS MY GOLD MEMBER STATUS THAT YOU TRIED TO KEEP UP AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW NOT TO f**k WITH SINGSNAP STAFF AND THEIR a*s KISSING FAVORITES , I'LL GIVE YOU A CLUE WHO THAT IS TREVOR BOUGHT THE SITE SINGSNAPSUCKS.COM FOR THEM DUUUUUUUUUH
I WAS A MEMBER FOR 6 f**kING YEARS AND NEVER ONCE DID A GOD d**n THING WRONG HELL MOTHER F'ERS I'M THE REASON WHY MEMBERS OF BIX AND OTHE SITES CAME ON SINGSNAP , IF IT WASN'T FOR ME SOME OF THE FAVORITE SINGERS OF SINGSNAP WOULD NOT BE ON SINGSNAP 
BUT DID THAT GET IN CONSIDERATION FOR ALL THE s**t I DID f**k NO , ONE LITTLE f**kING b***h WHO WAS A FAVORITE OF A STAFF MEMBER GOT BLOCKED FROM MY FRIEND BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT GET RID OF ME AS A FRIEND AND f**kING WAMMO SUDDENLY I BROKE THE CODE OF CONDUCT RULES WHICH EVERY SINGLE FRIGGING MEMBER THAT PISSES OFF A FAVORITE MEMBER OF THE GODS (STAFF) GETS TOLD THE REASON WHY THEY GOT SUSPENDED FOR NO REASON WHAT SO EVER AND IT TOOK ME A WHOLE MONTH BEFORE SOMEBODY SAID THAT s**t TO ME OTHER THAN THAT NOBODY NOT ON FACEBOOK OR SINGSNAP SUPPORT WOULD EVEN TALK TO ME OR TELL ME WHAT I HAVE DONE TO GET SUSPENDED , NOT A f**kING WORD , ON AND WHEN I DID SOME ANONYMOUS PERSON ON FACEBOOK SAID SINGSNAP DON'T WANT YOUR KIND ANY MORE ON SINGSNAP PLEASE DON'T TRY TO GET BACK ON BESIDES YOU CAN'T f**kING SING ANYWAYS 
I f**kING PROVED THAT MOTHER f**kER WRONG NOW DIDN'T I 
I'LL ANSWER THAT CAUSE SINGSNAP STAFF DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THEIR WRONG OR THEIR FAVORITES ARE WRONG THE ANSWER IS YES I PROVED I AM A BETTER d**n SINER THAN ANYBODY SINGSNAP SUPPORTS , I GOT PEOPLE FROM AMERICA'S GOT TALENT WRITING TO MY EMAIL ON REVERBNATION WANTING ME TO COME TRY OUT , I GOT PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS WHO HAVE SITES FOR PROFESSIONAL SINGERS AND MUSICIANS EVERY DAY WANTING ME ON THEIR SITES TO SING BECAUSE THEY THINK I SING BEAUTIFULLY WHEN A STAFF MEMBER TOLD ME ON FACEBOOK I CANNOT SING , WELL GUESS WHAT I DON'T NEED SINGSNAP ANY MORE ONLY THING SINGSNAP DID FOR ME WAS MAKE ME MORE FRIENDS WHO ARE ON MY SIDE AS HARD AS THAT SEEMS TO BE FOR SINGSNAP SUPPORT AND THE STAFF I STILL HAVE MY FRIENDS DIDN'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME EITHER ALTHOUGH THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK YOU WHY I WAS SUSPENDED FOR GETTING TOLD THEY WOULD BE IN THE SAME BOAT AND A TRUST WORTHY FRIEND TOLD ME THAT 3 OF THEM ACTUALLY ON SINGSNAP WAS TOLD IF THEY GET INVOLVED IN ANY WAY OF WHY I WAS SUSPENDED THEY WOULD BE IN THE SAME BOAT AND WAS TOLD TO BUT THE HELL OUT OF IT OR FACE THE SAME MUSIC SHE IS IN WHICH IS NO SINGING SHE'S NOT ON SINGSNAP , SO I GUESS THEM BEING TOLD THAT WAS MEANT THAT I COULDN'T SING ANY WHERE ANY MORE BECAUSE I AM NOT ON SINGSNAP BUT GUESS WHAT SINGSNAP.COM AND SINGSNAPSUCKS ARE THE ONLY SITES , AND I AM REPEATING THAT THE ONLY SITES THAT DON'T ALLOW ME TO BE ON THEIR SITES . 
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT CLOUT OR UPPER-HAND SINGSNAP SUPPORT OR THE STAFF OF SINGSNAP THINK THEY MAY HAVE BUT GUESS WHAT IT ONLY IS ON SINGSNAPSUCKS.COM AND SINGSNAP.COM HELL EVEN ON FACEBOOK I AM STILL THERE I CAN STILL SING DIDN'T STOP ME FROM DOING THAT EITHER AND SINGSNAP STAFF THOUGHT WHEN THEY SUSPENDED ME THAT THEY STOPPED ME FROM SINGING , GOD MUST BE NICE TO LIVE IN A WORLD IN YOUR OWN MIND WHERE YOU CAN THINK YOU CAN STOP EVERYTHING AND EVERYBODY THAT PISSES YOU OFF AND YOU CAN'T CONTROL ANY MORE WHICH IS ME BY THE WAY , YOU DUMPED MY a*s FROM SINGSNAP SO NOW YOU GOT NO CONTROL OVER ME OR MY SINGING VOICE I CAN SING WHERE I WANT AND WHAT EVER I WANT ANY SITE I WANT TO PUT MY SONGS THAT'S WHERE I PUT THEM BECAUSE I CAN .
AND WHAT CAN SINGSNAP DO ABOUT IT NOT A GOD d**n THING , YOU THINK YOU CAN BUT REALIZATION TIME PEOPLE YOU f**kING CAN'T ONLY ON SINGSNAP.COM AND SINGSNAPSUCKS.COM GOD I BET YOU THAT KINDA BRUISES THE EGOS NOT BEING ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR SUSPENDED MEMBERS WHO TRY TO CONTROL ESPECIALLY ME 
THAT GOTTA HURT LIKE f**kING HELL MAN CAN'T DO ANY EGO TRIPS ON YOUR SUSPENDED MEMBERS BECAUSE OH YEAH WE ARE SUSPENDED YOU CAN'T f**kING CONTROL WHAT WE DO ANY MORE MAN THAT HAS GOT TO PUCKER YOUR a*s BIG TIME DOESN'T IT .
AND YOU CAN TELL TERRIE OF MUZIKDRIVEN TO NOT HAVE ME AS A MEMBER AND PROBABLY THAT OTHER ONE BUT MY FRIENDS FROM BIX HAVE A SITE TOO AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GET THEM TO LISTEN TO YA BECAUSE THEY ARE MY ALL TIME GOOD FRIENDS AND THEY WON'T DESERT ME LIKE SINGSNAP STAFF AND OWNER HAS DONE NOT A CHANCE IN HELL SO GO AND TRY AND DO WHAT YOU CAN I'LL STILL BE AROUND SINGING , AS A MATTER OF FACT I'M ABOUT TO GO TO SOME SINGING ON YOUTUBE RIGHT NOW , BECAUSE I CAN , YA f**kED THAT BOY SUSPENDED ME NOW I CAN SING ON YOUTUBE ANY f**kING TIME I WANT , GUESS WHEN IT COMES TO ME SINGSNAP STAFF IS A BUNCH OF f**k UPS 

If you are a member of Singsnap, please do not assume responsibility for telling others how the terms of service applies or what a member can or cannot do regarding their recordings.

Too much incorrect information has been given out via an apparent Singsnap member here.  Anyone wishing to inquire about their account or needs assistance with their recordings in any way please contact Singsnap support on www.singsnap.com.

Thank You

My argument here is how these recordings are transferred from site to site, not if people should be allowed to have fan sites or not. 

@#33 When your friend had his website, how did he put the recordings onto his site? did he download them first and then put them on his website? because if he did, then yes, that is wrong. I have profiles on sites that have been there for years, all with embedded players with recordings from singsnap on them, not once has it ever been an issue. I have been a member since 2006. I will also say again, there is no removal of any material from the singsnap website when someone is using an enbedded player, if that were true, do you think Youtube would be still standing? the legalities of this do not just apply to singsnap, they apply to any website offering this feature. 

What I am saying is, that if you have lots of profiles on lots of different networking sites and so on, and they allow the embed code, then yes you can embed the singsnap player in there and show off not only your recordings but also bring attention to where they were done. This has been going on for years, the only reason it is not a prominent feature is because the networking buttons were introduced, it made it easier to share recordings, but the embedding aspect is still there and it is still allowed. Muzikdriven allow their members to embed these recordings, but I do not think they would need special permission to do that. I do think they would need special permission to create themselves as the "official" singsnap fan club though, but that is a different aspect of this argument and an aspect I do not know the answer to, because I have never questioned it. 

I do understand what you mean when you say that I am saying it is ok to create your own website and put everyones recordings on it, but that is not really what I am saying, I am saying that it is ok for you to use the embed codes from your recordings and put them on your networking profiles and so on, on other sites, like Myspace or whatever, I never mentioned anything about creating a website just to do this, simply because I do not know if that would be allowed without permission.

And even if permission is needed to create a website like Muzikdriven, then why not? they obviously took the initiative to do it and their members enjoy it as well as enjoying singsnap, what harm is it doing anyone? Why is it wrong for singsnap to have a fan club outside of the site? you think they are being favored? how would anyone know if they are being favored? unless they tried to create a similar site of their own, in that respect, there lies the problem, because what would happen if these sites started popping up everywhere? there would be no exclusivity, Muzikdriven is exclusive to singsnap, they don't allow recordings from other websites, so it is possible that this is why this site has been allowed and others have not.

If you are pissed because you feel that the owner of Muzikdriven is being favored because she has been allowed to create an exclusive website, then yeah I can buy that, but do not say that members there are breaking rules because they embed their recordings there, because they are not breaking any rules, they are not taking any singsnap property off the site, embedding is merely another form of linkage. If you want to build your own exclusive singsnap fan site, then why not ask if you can do that, instead of slating the site you want to build a fan site for into the ground on a public forum. How does that help anyone?

Been a SS member for 4 years and no.  I am not able to place my recordings on other sites.  I honestly knew nothing about muzikdrivens "fan" site until now and am not impressed.

There are fans of the site yes and after poking around I see it's been active for a long time.  The only way it can be active is to have McGuires approval.

Muzikdriven is an independent web site created by a person away from the Singsnap site.  I would never be "allowed" to start or create a brand new web site and place member recordings there, even if it was just myself or my friends music because it is removing ss copyrighted material from the home site without permission of the owner.

Muzikdriven clearly has received permission.  Jasmine, or whoever you are?  No other member would receive permission to do this so please do not insult the intelligence of others.

It is a fan site and because of that was approved.  You get into wat too many details about this or that when it's not necessary.  Members in general cannot do what muzicdriven has.

Can you imagine a hundred sites where they say "I'm a fan of ss and Im also a fan of the karaoke channel and also redkaraoke and here are a bunch of songs from all 3 sites"

Trevor would never approve.  Based on your calculations Jasmine, there would be nothing wrong with doing a web site like this if I do things according to your rules the way you see them.

Watch how fast I'd get myself threatened.  If the rules are the way you explained them?  There shouldne be ANY problem with combining players from all three sites on one web site.  (Granted the kc and redkaraoke don't mind)

That's just one situation.  There are many scenarios.  what if jow blow was a net geek and started his own web site for music?

What if Joe, took his friends songs (with approval) off Singsnap plus his own recordings and created a web site?  This would not be any SS fan site.  It would be just Joe Blow's music site in general.

According to you Jasmine, there should be no problem with this. 

Keeping it more simple...

How about Joe putting all his own SS songs on Facebook?  what if Jow took all his songs, plus his friends songs and put them on Myyearbook, Myspace, Zoosk, match.com, Google plus, diviantart, livejournal and others?

According to you, this would be ok.

A member I know from ss left a while back because he DID have his own web site.  It was for music, pics of his kids and work related things.  On the front, towards the bottom, he said "go to page 3 for recordings I did at a karaoke site called Singsnap"

Maybe two months after this site had been public, he received a message from staff telling him he must remove the songs from his personal web site or face being banned.

People here have been trying to tell you that muzicdriven has received special permission because it is a fan site.  I also agree.

No other member could just take songs of themselves and friends and plop them on a web site on the  net.

If you wish to say muzikdriven isnt breaking any tos because they got permission from Trevor then say that...but dont say theyre not breaking any rules because of the recorder or player or whatever.

Youre so wrong and thats why people keep posting.

From the Youtube TOS;

YouTube permits you to link to materials on the Website for personal, non-commercial purposes only. In addition, YouTube provides an "Embeddable Player" feature, which you may incorporate into your own personal, non-commercial websites for use in accessing the materials on the Website, provided that you include a prominent link back to the YouTube website on the pages containing the Embeddable Player. YouTube reserves the right to discontinue any aspect of the YouTube Website at any time.

The reason a person is not allowed to put their singsnap recordings on Youtube, is because you cannot use the embed code to do that there the way you can on other websites, a person would need to download the recording from singsnap onto their computer then upload it to Youtube, and that is against the singsnap TOS because you would be removing their property from the site. Using an embedded player means you are not removing any property.

I think you need to try and see the difference between downloading a song from singsnap and putting it on a player on another site, and not downloading the song from singsnap and still putting it on another site, you are not removing anything at all from singsnap if you use the embedded player code that THEY provide.

If you take Youtube for example, they also have a player that can be embedded, they state, in their TOS referring directly to the embedded player that you can use it on any website you wish as long as it links back to the Youtube site. I do not see singsnap being any different in this respect. None of the singsnap TOS refers directly to the embedded player. The recordings on the singsnap embedded player are the property of singsnap and must not be removed from the site, that is to do with downloading the recordings to computers and uploading them onto other players on other sites, it has nothing to do with using the embedded player on other sites, because technically you are removing nothing. Youtube would not allow this if it actually meant removing the content by download, they do not own a lot of content on their site, they allow it because by providing the embedding code, they still have control over the content that has been embedded, if a Youtube user removes their content, then wherever that content is embedded it will not show up.

I have never seen this question asked publicly, I have seen people ask many times if they can download their recordings and put them on other sites, or make cd's from them, or even asking how to download their recordings, to which the answer is always no, which is correct. At no point has it been brought up about the embedded player being used on profiles on other sites.

I do remember a thread some years back where a staff member talked about this, he stated that instead of using the embedded player on profiles elsewhere he would prefer if people just invited their friends, at no point did he say it was against the rules, he said it uses bandwidth, but could see the merits of the members using the embedded player in this way, members openly said where they used it and what effect it had in encouraging people to visit and join the site, the staff member agreed. This was of course before the networking buttons were introduced.

So I will say it again, to use the embedded player, no downloading is happening, no removal of property is happening, so Muzikdriven are breaking no rules.

I dont think anyone said as long as you can click on a link, its ok to remove the player from ss. Its not.

Theres always been something from the recorded song you can click on or figure out that the player was from ss unless the member removes the ss title from the song by some creative editing before putting it on another web site (I recommend that actually).

Jasmine, that options menu does NOT mean its ok to put your recordings anywhere you dayam well please.  thats what people have been trying to get thru your thick head but you dont want to pay attention.

the ss terms are very clear.  Its copyrighted recorders and players.  the terms do NOT say you can pop your songs/player and remove it from out site because we have an options menu.  No.

You CANNOT PUT YOUR SONGS ON OTHER WEB SITES.  If you have permission from the owner, go for it.  the terms however are clear.

You may not.  the point of a direct link back to ss or not is really not the issue albeit it was in the beginning.

The terms state you may not take the songs and remove them from this site.  they are for ss use only.

I wholeheartly believe Terri and muzicdriven are not being held to the same terms as everyone else and that was the WHOLE point of this report.  All members want the same thing if this person can.  your argument was well, they CAN.

NO THEY CANT.

My best friend was banned for not removing her songs from more then one place on the internet after staff sent a couple of pms.  Her reply was the typical.."well if they can i should be able to".

threats continued and she was banned.  She sent the site and the nasty staff member an email saying she complied and removed the songs and wanted her acct back because she had two more months left that she had paid in advance.

After being berated for two more emails, she got back on but to stick it to her, it wasnt for another two weeks.  (typical ss)

This kinda thing happens alllllll the time.  If you keep trying to have the last word by comin on here and saying its still ok, you'll be besieged again by more ss members that will continue to smack you upside the head my dear.

Why cant you ask staff.  Just say "Dear so and so, I believe that because of that options menu on the player (being links back to this site) it is more then ok to put my songs on any site on the internet except youtube"

See what answer you get back.  this question has been asked in the forum so many gosh derned times I cant even count and the answer has always beent he same so are you a member on ss in a different realm?

Jasmine is right that there is an options button on the recorder/player (which are pretty much the same thing.  both owned by ss so point is moot about player versus recorder).

BUT...regadless of any options button or menu on the "player" it is against the singsnap tos to remove the recorder/player from the singsnap site and it is against the tos to embedd recordings off of the singsnap site unless approved by owner or staff.

muzikdriven is essentially breaking the tos, but it has been there for a long time and Trevor probably looks the other way cos he gets his ego stroked and general satisfaction that he is loved.

Jasmine?  you are right about an options menu but wrong about just because you can click on it and go to singsnap its ok to place your recordings wherever you darn well please.  Please ask staff.  I just did.

If it were ok, the tos would stip what sites in detail were ok and which ones were not or it would state that some sites were ok and to seek more info from staff but it does NOT say anything.  The tos is pretty clear.  No ss owned property can be removed and/or placed on other sites.  period.

It is not ok.

Once again you are missing the point. When a player is embedded on another site using the singsnap embed code. The recording on that player does not leave the singsnap servers, no downloading, no uploading is done. As I stated already, it is controlled by singsnap, no matter where the player is situated. If you click on the more options button and click "record this song" it will link you straight back to singsnap, if you are not a member it will take you to the sign up page, if you are already a member it will take you to the log in page. What is so difficult about that to understand?

The recordings on any player, no matter what site they are embedded on still belong to singsnap, they still remain on the singsnap servers which they control. This is why it is not against the rules to use this embedded player on other sites. I have highlighted the word player, because it is not to be confused with the recorder. Theoretically the recording never actually leaves the site.

 http://www.ilovefreesoftware.com/06/webware/singsnap-free-onlike-karaoke.html

They even advertise that you can use the embed code to put players on your own website.

I do not know how much more informative I can be, other than to tell you to just go and ask someone on singsnap the question directly, because you are not taking in anything I have said.

The SS embedded recorder does not take you or redirect you back to the singsnap.com web site.  lol

 hilarious though.  Jasmine, just go spend your day tomorrow clicking on embedded recorders for 12 hours straight and nothing magical will happen.  lol

People, you're wasting your time trying to get through to Jasmine - she doesn't get it, doesn't WANT to get it.  I think she probably doesn't HAVE to get it - she's been kissing Trevor's a**  and worshiping at his feet for so long it doesn't matter. This is just another glaring example of Trevor's selective enforcement of his ever-changing TOS and COC.

I do know that the direct links and the embed code do not work in the same way.

I know the reasons why sending links to Facebook or Twitter would be useful, It is obvious why.

Click on an embedded recording, then click more options, and read what it says;

There is more to do at singsnap
Sing or Record this song yourself - and it links directly to the backing track

Listen to other versions of this song - and it links directly to recordings by other people

Learn more about this performer - it links directly to the owner of the recordings singsnap profile. - why would it do that if it was only allowed on singsnap profiles?

Now HOW can you tell me that this embedded PLAYER does not link back to the site? of course it does. You do not even have to wait till the recording ends to click the more options button.


It just promotes the site in a different way, but with the same goal in mind. It does not break any rules to put it on a profile somewhere.

I hope that make things clearer for the doubters. Go take a closer look at it!

No I am not the owner of Muzikdriven. I am just a member of both sites.

You are missing the point, you are not embedding the recorder, you are embedding the player. When a person clicks play, when it gets to the end, it directs the listener to the site, telling them they can record it or listen to other people singing it. You are wrong, singsnap do control the player, because if the recording is not public on the site it is not available wherever that player is embedded. Try it and see. 

The reason I know this, is because I too have been a member for a long time, if you think back to before the sharing buttons were introduced, the embed codes were how people shared their recordings on profiles on other sites, it was encouraged. It is not breaking any licensing laws either, because it is on the singsnap player. 

I am not going to argue the point any more, you are not understanding what I am explaining.



 

"Jasmine", I read the tos and am and have been an active member since 2007. Well, not so much now because of works hours and expences, but I too have always known members songs cannot be placed on other sites. People do it anyways, but theyre threatened with a site ban if found out. The site terms are crystal clear yet you state the embed codes are not a part of the tos.

Since youve said videos can go on most any other sites, Id like to ask you where you got your information from?You've spent quite a bit of time here today name calling and speaking as if you know something other members dont. Im willing to bet you may be the director of muzikdriven. No one else would bother here. (except for the usual idiots)

Regardless, please tell readers how you know this. How do you know its fine and dandy to put yoyr videos on other sites. Many members including friends of mine have asked staff on the message boards many times before and theyve all said no. Where do you get this from? Please dont be evasive. If its how you interpret thebtos, then um, ok. Lol If staff told you, then say so.

Those rules do not cover what I am saying the embed code does.

The embed code is part of the singsnap service, it is available to all members to use as they wish.

When you place the embed code on your profile on any website that it works with, it is not taking the content off singsnap, it is linked to singsnap. It is controlled from singsnap, that is why I said, if you make the recording private on singsnap it will not show up on the place you embedded it, that is why it is allowed, because it is not just the video you are embedding, it is the whole player that can only be controlled by singsnap. 

Believe what you want, but I am telling you, Muzikdriven are doing nothing that breaks any rules.

Heres the TOS.  Jasmine, youre wrong sweetheart.

Copyrights.All copyrights in and to the Service, including but not limited to, SingSnap.com (including the compilation of content, postings, links to other Internet resources, and descriptions of those resources), and software, are owned by SingSnap and/or its licensors. THE USE OF THE SOFTWARE OR ANY PART OF THE SERVICE, EXCEPT FOR USE OF THE SERVICE AS PERMITTED IN THESE TERMS OF SERVICE, IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED AND INFRINGES ON THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS OF
OTHERS AND MAY SUBJECT YOU TO CIVIL AND CRIMINAL PENALTIES, INCLUDING POSSIBLE MONETARY DAMAGES, FOR COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.

Copyrights.All copyrights in and to the Service, including but not limited to, SingSnap.com (including the compilation of content, postings, links to other Internet resources, and descriptions of those resources), and software, are owned by SingSnap and/or its licensors. THE USE OF THE SOFTWARE OR ANY PART OF THE SERVICE, EXCEPT FOR USE OF THE SERVICE AS PERMITTED IN THESE TERMS OF SERVICE, IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED AND INFRINGES ON THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS OF
OTHERS AND MAY SUBJECT YOU TO CIVIL AND CRIMINAL PENALTIES, INCLUDING POSSIBLE
MONETARY DAMAGES, FOR COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.

This Agreement is accepted upon your use of the Website and is further affirmed by you becoming a Member of the Service. This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement between you and SingSnap regarding the use of the Website and/or the
Services and govern your use of the Service. You also may be subject to additional terms and conditions that may apply when you use affiliate services, third-party content, or third-party software. If any part of these Terms of Use is held invalid or unenforceable, that portion shall be construed in a manner consistent with applicable law to reflect, as nearly as possible, the original intentions of the parties, and the remaining portions shall remain in full force and effect. SingSnap's failure to exercise or enforce any right or provisions in these Terms of Use will not operate as a waiver of such provision, or any other provision of these Terms of Use. If any provision of this Agreement is found by a court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the other provisions will remain in full force and effect. The section titles in this Agreement are for convenience only and have no legal or contractual effect. SingSnap will not be responsible for failures to fulfill any obligations due to causes beyond its control.

For the last and final time, it is not against the TOS to use the embed codes on other sites. It is why they are provided.

Why don't YOU go ask that question on singsnap? or are you banned as I have suggested, so you can't. 

As for being civil, you do not know the meaning of the word. You type like you are 5 years old and you think that merits a civil response from me? go figure.

I have not quoted the TOS, a person does not need to be a staff member to discuss this, I am a member, that gives me the right to discuss this if I choose to do so. 

You really should get your facts straight before "trying" to ridicule people for having an opinion that differs from your own. go go go, get checking. 

And while you are checking, why don't you also check what the singsnap embed code actually is and what it does before making your ridiculous comments that are almost undecipherable, you need to learn to type in a language that people can follow, or perhaps you are just getting carried away covering who you really are.

I was "googling about sharing music"

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.  that was funny.

hahahahahahaha you cant put your videos on youtube but you can use the embed codes for any other site?  Are you (((REDACTED FOUL LANGUAGE))) kidding me lady? hahahahahaha


"How can using the embed code be against the TOS? You are not downloading anything or uploading anything? if you make the song private on the site it then becomes unavailable wherever that code has been embedded. Do check your facts."

no you cannot.  lolololoolololol

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!

you should NOT be telling people things you dont know anything about.  Jasmine?  Go put this on the message boards and copy and paste your idiotic comment right now on singsnap and let staff tell you how wrong you are.  If a daym member has a video marked private why in the heck would they WANT to embed it on another site?  no one can view it then.

why tell #4 thanks for being civil.  you werent.  you called the poster every name in the book.  why in the world would you expect someone to be civil to you when youre not?

how old are you anyways?  Do NOT QUOTE THE TOS OR TALK ABOUT IT UNLESS YOU ARE STAFF.  GOT IT!

You are so wrong its not even funny.  you cannot put your videos on other sites.  Period.

and stop saying the report has nothing to do with youtube.  dont distract from it.  wont work dumbo.  the original report did talk about it so shut it already.

First of all, the fact that you think my name is Shanda, just proves the point I am making about who YOU are. My name is Jasmine as my comments suggest. I do not need to hide, but it seems you do. 

What part of "the embed codes are allowed on other sites" do you not understand? all the embed code is, is a fancy link. All embed codes lead back to the site, I have seen many people with their recordings embedded into their Facebook profile, before the timeline came along. There is no rule against that. And many people also used to have them on their Myspace profiles, some still do, again, no rule against that. What is it about this that you cannot grasp? 

Nobody has ever said that you can't put your singsnap videos on other sites using these codes, they have said you can't download them, there is a difference. 

I think what is shameful here, is that you are dragging yet more oblivious people into your warped tirade upon this business. Where do you draw the line?

First of all, if I were a person who trolls these sites day in day out, why would I have only chosen to react to this one? there are many here to choose from, this one came to my attention when I googled sites for sharing music. You refer to me as always the spectator behind these posts, and yet I have made no other posts. So who is assuming now?

I am also a member of singsnap, muzikdriven and many other sites. I am also fan on Facebook just like you. singsnap do not need a watchdog, why would they? people are free to express their opinions in whatever way they wish. Nothing wrong with that, but I think you are missing something here, go figure.

I have no interest in who is who here, other than to point out the obvious. 

I do do not agree that the glory days are over, I think the site still has a lot to offer. That is my personal opinion, I am entitled to it as are you. 

I was not discussing Youtube, because that is a different situation and I am not disagreeing with you either, you are correct, it is against the TOS to upload a singsnap video to Youtube. But I am saying that it is not against the TOS to use the embed code on another site, that is what it is there for, not just to use on your profile. How can using the embed code be against the TOS? You are not downloading anything or uploading anything? if you make the song private on the site it then becomes unavailable wherever that code has been embedded. Do check your facts.

Do not assume to know anything about me, I live a sheltered life? because I use singsnap? you can do better than that, geez. Am I under the impression that without singsnap people can't sing? god no, whatever gave you that idea? all I stated was that it is not against the rules to use the embed codes outwith the site, the singsnap embed codes that is.


FYI - I did as you suggested and googled singsnap, all I see are the main links to the site and a s-h-i-t load of complaints not that much different from this one, if you are trying to tell me that the authors are not connected then you are deluded. I agree that every business will have people who do not like the product or service, that is not unusual, what is unusual is that not many are stalked for years by a group of people hell bent on causing as much trouble for them as possible.

Nothing dumb about having an opinion, but when something is not factually correct it is misleading.


Thank you for keeping your post somewhat civil and informative. I do not share your opinions, but I do know that you are entitled to them, as am I.

The tos doesnt say you cant oput videos on other sites because downloading them is a sin.  lol

It doesnt matter if an embed code downloads a video first or not.  I mean wtf?  Because a web site requires the video to be downloaded first makes it wrong but if using an embed code DOESNT require any download its ok?

where in the (((REDACTED FOUL LANGUAGE))) does it say that???????

Allllllllllllllllllllllllllll staff ever harp is that your vids cannot be on other sites.  Myspace and Facebook dont require the video to be downloaded first, yet staff says no no, you cant do that.  you can ONLY share a link that directly takes you back to thew Singsnap site.  It's been drilled into brains from the get go.

theres no dissecting between a download requirement or not.  lol

Jasmine, youre a yawn fest.  i mean shanda.

Everyone knows staff have said no videos anywhere except singsnap.  whenever someone would ask about facebook on the message boards, someone would come along and say no.  only a shared link that takes you back to singsnap directly.

BTW, the original report DOES mention youtube you sill girl.  need new glasses?  Id call you a name, but you used them all. wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

The initial complaint here reports that Muzikdriven has broken the singsnap TOS Dorkbrain, Nothing to do with Youtube.

I have stated that no rules have been broken, which part of that are you finding hard to comprehend in your pea sized brain? rules - none - broken! are we clear?

You cannot embed a singsnap video on Youtube without first downloading it, that is against the TOS, but that is not what Muzikdriven are doing, they are using a facility that is there for any member to take advantage of, no downloading involved or breaking of rules, are you getting it now? is it sinking in? shall I say it again? What Muzikdriven are doing is legit. Doh!

Carry on making up stories so that you can file complaints about them, in your sad little mind you think people read this s-h-i-t? Do you think people are really that interested? The only thing interesting about this is how idiotic you look. 

Is that your game? to get negative stuff about singsnap into the search engines as many times as you can? I wonder why someone would want to do that, I wonder who would be so vile and calculating hmmmmm, is it a case of if you can't have it then nobody can? Why would anyone spend so much time doing what you do? unless they have a vested interest in causing that business as much intentional negative publicity as possible.  Seek help before you sponataneously combust, you weird stalking crackpot.

I think if a member wants to put their videos on a web site and isnt allowed to but yet another member is allowed to for whatever reason thats wrong.

Going aroundf afterwards and calling that person names was retarded and wrong.  Sounds like a singsnap cheerleader to me.

There is nothing wrong with wishing to put your music videos on other sites if another singsnap member is doing it also. 

that report is also legit.  when you Google singsnap, there are people who clearly have their videos on Youtube and it doesnt seem like anything has been done to remove them.  I would think one little phone call from Singsnap's owner would suffice to take care of that.

My OPINION which I am entitled to is Singsnap picks and chooses who can put their videos on other sites.  Is every member allowed to?  Nope.

I also think (AGAIN, MY OPINION) that its quite possible one of the perps being sued wrote the Jasmine rebuttal.

Go ahead perp.  Click on the usefulness button.  Me dont care.

It's true.  All the reports show up on search engines and that's more then likely all the writer of a report cares about. 

It's all that matters.

no one said they were banned on this report.  youre assuming.  most banned like saying how and why they were.  there are plenty of people on snap using the site who dont like a lot of things. 
its not all banned members that say anything twerp. 

members use embed coses on youtube too moron.  look at googles search while looking of singsnap idiot.  many members have videos on youtube by USING THE EMBED CODE and theyre not banned are they?  gee willy wonkers yur a smart cookie "Jasmine"  lolololololololo

\or is is larry?  or shanda?  or katie?  or annie?  hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

stupid troll yourself.  got anything better to do then go around to singsnap reports and click on the usefulness button?  AS IF that does anything dips**t.
as long as people can see the reports on singsnap searches thats all that matters.  NOT your two cents which aint worth much freak.

of COURSE there is embed codes.  no one needed you to ffing poiint that out imbecile.

It would appear that you have been banned from using singsnap for so long that you seem to forget that there is an embed code as well as a link code on every single recording on the site.

It is not against their rules to embed a recording on another site using the embed code that singsnap provides. Looking at the homepage of Muzikdriven that is exactly what they have done. No rules have been broken. How stupid do you feel now? because you certainly look it.

Do you have nothing better to do with your time than trolling the Internet writing complaints with no substance? How many have you written now on this site?

Here is an interesting piece of information for you and your herd, Nobody cares what you think, is that clear enough for you? you are banned, why would anyone listen to someone like you? I could go on and say why they would not, but that would be covering old ground and covering old ground is your job, because it is all you have left.

It is time you faced facts, singsnap is not going anywhere, it continues to only get bigger and better while you wallow in your self pity and hate. Get over it, you are so obsessed by it that you spend your days stalking the site and the members in it, writing this complete nonsense, could you look anymore desperate? In case you are wondering, the answer to that is no. How pathetic.