Report: #702152

Complaint Review: Southampton Knights Football, Inc.

  • Submitted: Thu, March 03, 2011
  • Updated: Mon, September 10, 2012
  • Reported By: Sickened in Southampton — Feasterville Pennsylvania United States of America
  • Southampton Knights Football, Inc.
    PO Box1487
    Southampton, Pennsylvania
    United States of America

Southampton Knights Football, Inc. Southampton Knights, Knights Football,John Loughlin, Jeff McClinton, Jeff Gellman, Rick Ervin, Bill Lincoln, moureen Loughlin Dishonest, Misleading, No Morals, Damaging to Children, Fraudulent, Bullies Southampton, Pennsylvania

*General Comment: Funny...

*General Comment: Concerned Parent

*UPDATE Employee: Alcohol and Pot!

*Consumer Comment: I hope things get fixed

*Consumer Comment: Annoyed

*UPDATE Employee: rebutting a pathological liar

*Consumer Suggestion: Question this organization.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Seriously!

*General Comment: ANGRY PARENT

Show customers why they should trust your business over your competitors...

DO NOT particiapte in this football league!!!

The Southampton Knights will put your child in harms way if it benefits them.

We got involved with The Southampton Knights Football Organization through a flier that was distributed by our children's elementary school.  The organization had representatives at sign ups for us to speak with.  Our son had never played football so we had a lot of questions.

The representatives of the organization promised that our child would be instructed in the game of football, taught teamwork and sportsmanship, and offered the opportunity to enjoy the game of football.  We heard over and over how it was "all for the kids".  They promised experenced coaches who had both background checks and training.  Having never played football before, we believed that the organization would teach the game and sportsmanship. [continued below]....

The truth of the matter is that the Southampton Knights is lead by a President, John Loughlin, who only cares about being re-elected and handling large amonts of cash.  The orgnization belongs to a governing organization called the Keystone State League (KSL) that does NOTHING to intervene when a parent has a problem with a local organization. When we asked why our son was not allowed to play even in practice games and scrimmages, we were told that he was "not good enough".  (Although we payed what everyone else payed to play and if he was not good enough it was because they did not teach him as promised) Not being allowed to play in a PRACTICE GAME?? Are you kidding me? How is a child to learn?  I thouht it was "about the kids".  The form we filled out said nothing about taking our money but not teaching our son anything or being allowed to play.  Other kids who did not come to practice, and even missed games were always allowed to play...incidentally our team lost every game they played so it coud not have been about winning right?  Our son did turn out to be quite a strong player once we received outside coaching from another source in an effort to ensure he would earn some playing time and be safe while playing.  It was never about the childs playing ability - it was about parents speaking out against the organization.

Our coach was NOT experienced, and though he passed a background check, it did not show his abusive "leadership qualities" or the demeaning method in which he directed the kids.  These are young children ages 6-12! Our coach talked about "honeor and respent" but he meant toward HIM- honor and respect are two things that our coach never practiced himself.  We had an assistant coach on the team that physically abused a few kids on the team and when the parents spoke out NOTHING was done.  The assistant coach was accused of pinching the necks and shoulders of players about 9-11 years of age.  The assistant coach went on to publiclly admit in a board meeting that he DID do what he was accussed of and would do it again!  This person remained in a coaching position without any reprocussion.

This organization cares about winning teams.  The older boys in the 105 lb range were all that mattered to the league.  ALL of the money taken in by other teams is put toward jackets and awards for this single winning team and their coaches. (As irony would have it - most of the Board members are coaches on the winning team) The most outspoken coaches are the ones that direct the winning teams and get the greatest attention for winning. They were even on the news for winning.  This attention is hard to let go of with egos at stake. The Athletic Director and Coach, Jeff McClinton, said "he could not guarentee the safety of my child on the feild because I spoke out against the league and asked too many questions".  (This person is our league KSL represetative and oversees all team coaches)This pubic threat was made at a board meeting of the league when we inquired about the finances of the leaugue. Again - NOTHING was done. 

A new Treasurer was elected but the newly elected Treasurer was not allowed to see any of the bank balances or finances.  This raised red flags regarding the theft of funds and handling of cash.  Though the league is supposed to be audited regularly and share financial information, the Board members refused to share tha information with anyone who is concerned.  Jeff Gellman was the past Treasurer who refused to turn over any financial information, and this act against the league bylaws was supported by the accountant President John Loughlin. This organization has a Board of Directors that are bullies and potentially theives.  (We can't see the finanicals so we don't know how much has been misappropriated as of this date) The Knghts BOD manipulate rules for their own use, and fix elections to remain in power.  A few of the parents support this bad behavior becasue they are friends of the Presidents wife (who incidentally handles tons of snack bar cash not tracked anywhere), or parents that are blinded by their dreams of having the next NFL player in their family. This "power" is used to keep anyone from seeing financial information that would prove these men and wives are not stealing or misusing funds. 

Maureen Louglin is known for having open alcohol in the snack bar on township property and many parents also bring open alcohol to the games and practice feilds.  Look for anyone carrying a coffee mug or red plastic cup.  This "drinking" is so open and widely known about that awards at last years CHILDREN'S football league were given out as the "RED CUP" awards to party parents known to tend bar out of the back of their vehicles in the parking lot.  THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A CHILDRENS FOOTBALL LEAGUE!!!   Is it any wonder that the Southampton Knights Football banquet has one of the highest bar bills around?  A kids football banquet that ends with many drunk parents driving their children home - all put on by the Board of Directors of the Southampton Knights.  What are we teaching our children?  It's defineitly NOT football or personal responsibility!

This league is about money, power, and who controls it.  Large amounts of cash are handled by Jeff Gellman, John Loughlin, and John's wife, Moureen Loghlin without any ability to check how the money is handled and if it is even deposited.  The other bord mebers just stand by and watch this all take place.  This group does not follow their own bylaws and by all records, is not even a legally organized business in the state of Pennsylvania.  This organzation is fraudulently representing themselves as a non-profit organization that does not exist.  Are they insured?  If they are not really a legally organized company, will any insurance company pay out in the case of injury or death of a child?  How does a "business" that does not exist ask for public donations and use Southampton township land and feilds for free?!  (Maybe becasue they give Gridiron Awards to township officials) Where do the donations go?  Where are the "experienced" coaches?  Our coach this year was put in his position because "no one else applied" but since they did not wish to refund money to parents - the league took anyone - even if they were abusive and inexperenced.  Where are the children that are supposed to benefit from this league?  The kids are discouraged, hurt, and did not enjoy their football season. Many parents have left the league to prevent the frustrations caused by the open fraud that takes place in this league.  Anyone who speaks out is threatened, their child is chastised, and the parents are bullied in to leaving. The young children in this league are used to financialy support the older winning team and the vast amounts of cash mishandled by the Board of Directors.  This Board of Directors feel they personally own this league and it is a profit center for their personal control.

It has been recently uncovered that a Pennsylvania State Athlectic grant has been fraudulently used by the Knghts at the hands of John Loughlin and Jeff Gellman.  Apparently receipts for jersies parents paid for was presented to the state as proof of proper use of the grant and the cash pocketed somewhere.  The Board of Directors will not share any financal information as to confirm or deny this misuse of state grant funds.  Where is the cash?  Why are parents paying for jersies the league has state grants to pay for?

This league is NOT the league for you if you want your child to learn the game or have fun.  Stay away from the Southampton Knights Football Organization.  If your child does play for them, have plenty of insurance yourself because safety, uniforms and equipment that properly fit, coaching, and fun are NOT their top priorities.  The KSL organization will not help you if you request their assistance
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#1 General Comment


AUTHOR: A.Gall - ()

Why does it seem like the people upset that this report was written have nothing more to their argument than attacking the integrity or character of the people speaking out against the Knights? Is it so hard to believe that there are people within an organization taking full advantage of their power within it to further themselves?


You know the saying: Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Given the fact that many people are acknowledging the shady goings-on with the Knights, methinks there's some truth to it. 

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#2 General Comment

Concerned Parent

AUTHOR: Dianne - (United States of America)

To whom ever wrote this statement about the Southampton Knights Football being a ripoff is sadly mistaken and should see the wonderful program for which it is.

I was part of the Knight Football years ago and all volunteers in the program that i know and come to know are far from ripping anyone off or misleading. Everyone that i have meant i have utmost respect and loyalty toward. Volunteering your time and making something as successful as the knights have become took a lot - i mean alot of hard work. Who ever you are- You should be ashamed of yourself.

it is easy to critisize trying helping and being a part of the successful program, because that is what that has made it successful. people such as yourself have no idea the hours put into running the club. grow up
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#3 UPDATE Employee

Alcohol and Pot!

AUTHOR: ReneF - (United States of America)

Besides the alcohol don't you smell the pot! And a FACT, its the parents! Also have coaches with criminal records.... amazing...this is my final year! I've had it, falls on deaf ears when you say something!
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#4 Consumer Comment

I hope things get fixed

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

I agree that things have gone downhill in the organization. I've seen people drink (which I don't understand why people will just admit it instead of lying about it), I saw two board members say that a kid sucks about two different kids on two different occasions (should never ever have been said - especially by board members), and I've seen backstabbing going on so the board members can get their way. For a youth organization, there is way too much drama from the board members. I hope they can get their act together and be better examples for the kids. I also think an emergency election is a great idea if the board members cannot get things straight and act like they should.
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#5 Consumer Comment


AUTHOR: parent - (United States of America)

Everything this woman has posted is TRUE!!! To say there is not one slither of truth to it is insane! You must be a board member or spouse of! Kudos to "Seriously" for their posting also!!
I know for a fact that the Knights recruit--I heard directly from a coach's mouth who has recruited!You know nothing! Also there is definitely drinking--everyone knows it--the board is well aware of it--the presidents own wife is one of them!The VP is alos a drinker! He does nothing else!Theres was even a letter sent to the organization complaining of discrimination--especially by Maureen Loughlin because she did not like as she said "the city kids" - they took away from her sons playing time.It of course was never addressed since she is the presidents wife.
Elections - totally fixed also. Everyone knows it and that is why people do not get involved--if you dont agree with the board they they out you. President said Coach Brown would never be brought back as a coach--heard him say it at a board meeting--well, guess who's back as a coach!But of course Loughlins kids wont be on that team! I heard they are suspending Scott Hill---what a joke!He was the only person you could go to last year and get somewhere--the others were no one to be found---but I guess he saw all the red flags to and finally had enough.
Parents who had complaints were not taken care of--unless your kid was a star player.I too witnessed the athletic directors comments "why are we even discussing this, that kid sucks"--he should of been released right there on the spot for that comment! You can argue all you want but truth is truth and the original post is totally true!Loughlin is only doing president as a resume booster---he does nothing else. His wife walks around doing a whole lot of nothing also!Like to complain, thats about it!
As far a the board being thieves----this one is a tough one.Of course people think it because any time someone has asked for proof they were dismissed -- I heard someone asked for a budget--never saw one,or was told they didn't have time to do it! How about an audit?----one has NOT been done--I was at a meeting when that was asked and that was the response. I also heard at a meeting that the grant money was for pants (which by the way are horrible!)which the original pants were changed by a board member and we got in horrible fitting pants--now they are saying it is for the jerseys--which is it.? Try getting a copy of the minutes--never saw such a disorganized board as this one. Jeff Gellman was organized. Minutes are horrible, they talk in circles and nothing gets done!
The organization has no problem taking your money--but dont  have any will be disappointed.There are alot of good people with the Knights, its ashame the board clouds that with their antics. The Knights have lost ALOT of good volunteers due to all the politics. The person who said there should be an emergency board meeting and all positions be up for election is right on. Clean house and get it back to the way it was---where its about the kids and not the jackets!
Also--start following the rules! The board seems to follow them when they choose. Stop the little secret meetings---I wonder if there are any minutes on them??????
Funny, are you guys that cocky that you think this woman would actually want to come back----you suspend her because she asked questions that you didn't like. You had no problem using her freezer for a season at no charge---or buying who snackbar food at cost,or even purchasing a freezer from her at a great price---funny how you can only bash her--but I guess she is of no use to you since her son wasn't a star player. Shame on the board--you are all a disgrace! Instead of looking of ways to get rid of people why dont you actually do your jobs!Alot of "red flags" need to be addressed .Next election--get your rule book out---no changing rules a few seconds prior to voting to benefit the president! You are teaching your kids that cheating is ok!That is EXACTLY what it is --CHEATING!!!! You did not win-everyone knows it. You are pathetic!
So if it is true what is being said the Mr.Hill is suspended then I guess the presidents wife,the vp and the others are suspended also--because according to the rules drinking on the field is a violation--they should be suspended then--especially since they did it all season!You knew and did NOTHING about it!Or is it the board just getting rid of who they want.
There are alot of good peole and coaches down there at the field and alot of great kids.Its just ashame we have a board that is full of idiots!Get rid of all of them and start fresh!
It was stated there is a township official on the board---who is that?Keith Froggart is an official but not on the board.
Of course woods coach would come to the banquet--its a win win situation--he can recruit and Loughlin can kiss up to him in case his son goes there. no brainer!
I also found it amusing this whole drinking thing and sure enough you even advertise it on your webpage--can Knights do anything without alcohol involved?Should be a family day--not a beer fest!Oh yeah,you are not about the kids.That is trouble waiting to happen--and you are advertising it!
This can be a great organization---get back to it being about the kids instead of your ego's!!!!! 
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#6 UPDATE Employee

rebutting a pathological liar

AUTHOR: the truth - (United States of America)

it is beyond belief that this woman has the audacity to make these remarks in lieu of her past conduct and record.  for the record she has been removed by the board as a member of this program.  nothing she has said has a sliver of truth to it. the knights have over 30,000 in the bank and it grows every year.  our programs continues to grow and is regarded as one of the finest in the area. tbe wood head football coach comes to our banquet and loves what and how we teach our kids.  our equipment is the finest in the area and, i'm sorry, yes we do win alot of games, which, by the way, our kids really seem to enjoy!  the woman that wrote this article is angry because her constant  overtures to some of the coaches have always been rejected.  she is also very upset that her contractor stole 100,000 from her and fled to south america leaving her penniless.  she is a bitter, old woman who feels she must take it out on somebody. why not a  hard working, dedicated organization that has 99% of its parents backing. it is true, they/we are not perfect, but to call board members thieves, liars and worse just cause you can't "get any" or have it your way all the time, is sick, phobic, and should be met with a libel suit, but since she has lost everything to her gigolo contractor, what would be the point.  it is unfortunate that people like this are allowed to speak in public forums, discrediting hard working, caring people who devote endless hours of their time to helping kids stay off the streets and learn a team sport.  HOW DARE THEY.  by the way this "woman" never helped with anything regarding the program and it probably is best with "all that cash around"  goodbye you degenerate loser. "May you reap what you sow" and i am sure your life will continue to be a living hell.  you  deserve it!

and while i am at it let me address the few people who seems to think the 105 lb team runs all over creation looking for kids outside the township to play in southampton.  the team does not recruit. they are approached by parents who have heard of their success and training regiment and want to play here. they abide by all league rules regarding kids from other ksl teams and have never been repremanded for any violations.  s-hampton is a 6 sq mile township that plays in a very tough and competitive league.  in years past there were times when they could not properly put teams on the field because putting kids in positions they cannot play causes kids to doubt their abilities, sour on football, and, much worse, get seriously injured.  but to a parent who is only concerned about their kid and have absolutely no concern for the team, this does not matter.  its all about what they want.  it is a blessing that the 105 lb staff does not have a single head coach or coordinator with a kid on the team.  they will never tell a player who wants to be a knight he can't play here. there are no rules against it and they will not discriminate based on any neighborhood, trait or other difference in a player. that is evil and wrong!!! all are welcomed to play here.  i've heard it explained to me their creed is "best player starts, all good players play, no exceptions"   i kind of like it.  imagine, having a kid earn his position instead of just handing it to him. WHAT A CONCEPT!  to parents who feel this way i recommend you start getting your kids ready for life.  spoiled, entitled, and underachieving is no way to get through life                                                                                                                  
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

Question this organization.

AUTHOR: Concerned Parent - (United States of America)

As a long time member of this organization, I too have found that the atmosphere has deteriorated since the original championship was won.
Why is it acceptable for a township organization to recruit players from other areas and or cities such as Bensalem, Philadelphia, etc.
To further lower the ethics of the organization, rumors are rampant that the organization has offerings for the exceptional players from other areas.
Now that the Hill family has been chased away by the board members, parents will be hesitant to take initiative and help out, for fear of being ostracized, in the same manner as the Hill family.
Since the organization is being managed as a disfunctional family, and the elections were certainly fixed by the board, the best thing for the organization is told hold an emergency election for ALL seats on the board, so the organization can once again be properly and ethically managed.
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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds


AUTHOR: parent - (United States of America)

You have got to be kidding me on your rebuttal! You do not have a clue! John Loughlin certainly did not turn this organization around--he just takes the credit---Jeff Gellman turned this organization around! Everyone looked at Jeff as the president--Jeff runs the meetings,handles every aspect of organizing,setting stuff up,making things happen.Loughlin and Irvin do nothing! I went to some meetings for myself just to see--I heard alot of people talking negatively so I thought I would go to a meeting for myself--Jeff Gellman ran the whole show.

I also went to the elections--talk about a joke! Who changes rules 2 minutes to an election--but then of course it was in favor of the president.Then I heard of the deal that was made--a nonmember who is the girlfriend of the very controversial 75lb jv coach was told she would be allowed to vote as long as she voted for John and if they voted for John (her and her boyfriend coach Ernerst)then Ernest would be brought back as a coach.

Funny because it was said most of the sean Ernest would not be brought back because of his behaviour,horrible with the kids,his own coaching staff walked away from him because of his ethics and the president I was told said that in no way would he be brought back again as a coach--well if you look at Knights webpage he was brought back as a coach -- loughlin won by 1 vote--kinda funny huh!Non-member casted the solicited vote! Guess the runor was true--of course the coach was given a team that Loughlins kids wont be on!

As far as drinking--you have got to be kidding me that you are unaware of it!! I myself was offered beer on several occasions and even witnessed MAureen Loughlin drinking in the parking lot with a bunch of parents--they even called and had pizza delivered and then bragged about the 8 hours they sat up there drinking ! Nice example for the kids!Knights is even advertising drinking on their webpage for their "Knights" out -- some family night--go to a game,get drunk then take your kids home--

I witnessed the Vice PResident at a Playoff game drinking.I spoke briefly to him and had to leave because the stench of beer on his breath was repulsive!On top of acting like an idiot and making inappropriate comments--but thats what happens when you mix alcohol.

I realize it is all volunteer - I have volunteered and met some wonderful people who give a ton of time--funny most of those people have stepped away.I have also learned that if you speak up you are labeled--and they try to get rid of you.I saw this year alone people walk away who I thought never would.They got tired of the antics.Thats what I'm learning the Knights do---the lose all the good people because they wont follow the way of the board--The Hill's did a ton for the organization,finally had enough and walked away and now the board does nothing but talk bad about them and try to "suspend" them.Couldn't believe I heard them discuss this at a meeting.

My biggest shock was at a meeting this year when I personally heard the Athletic Director Jeff McCLenton say--"why are we even discussing this,this kid sucks" - I was appalled! Apparently if you are a parent and have a problem it will not be addressed unless your kid is a "good" player.

Heard a police report was filed by someone accusing the Knights of mishandling or fraud--wonder what that turns up--not a good sign.

I think the Knights got a few Championships under their belts and then just got big heads and think they can do what they want.My kids no longer play there but they need to start making it about the kids again---bring your egos down,start working together--mainly start following the rules.I am sure they are all good people--just not board material.The president needs to step up and stop letting everyone do his job--including his wife.Never knew why they called her theQueen--saw this year what they mean--

I have to say,my kids always enjoyed Knights--it was just the past 2 years it started going downhill and I just think they got big heads from wins and got cocky.My kids are too old to play now,and to be honest I am glad--I wouldn't want them around this--the original author is right in what they wrote--you can argue all you want,but truth is truth and unfortunately I witnessed alot of it for myself.Maybe oneday Knights will get back to the way it was---until then folks,hang in there.
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#9 General Comment


AUTHOR: A concerned knights parent - (United States of America)

As far as participating in THIS football league.  I always have and will continue to for as long and my boys are participating in Football.  If you feel that they are not a good league then by all means just leave.  I here there are other football leagues in your neighborhood.  I do believe that POP Warner is one of them....  They may be happy to have you with them.

As far as putting my children in harms way.....  The only way that they are in harms way is if they are allowed to be around you and your nasty words.

My sons have been involved with Southampton Knights Football since they were in kindergarten and have had the most wonderful time learning and participating in this sport.  They have had wonderful coaches who have all volunteered their time and efforts to give all of the children involved the best experience they could have.  I have never once experienced any type of conflice or abuse verbal or physical from any of the coaches involved with this league.

As with anything else, school, sports, parents, children, instructors.......  You can only get out of the experience what you put into it.  If you don't know anything about of the sport how on earth can you tell someone who is volunteering their time that they don't know what they are doing. 

I am hearing all of this controversary over coaches and their assistants, Hello they are not paid employees of a company.  They are all VOLUNTEERS, usually with children of their own on the field, doing their best to give these kids the best that can be given.  I always find it amusing that the people who don't know anything about the sport or sports in general have the biggest mouths and want to cry at the first sight of their children not being "allowed" to play.

Does anyone remember not all that long ago, like when we were in school, first you had tryouts....  Then you had to participate and PAY ATTENTION - NOT HORSE AROUND on the field in order to play the game.  The object of anything sports, work, life is that you participate, work hard at something and then reap the benefits.  If you children are handed time on the field and they are not worthy of that time what are you telling them.  These children all need to work for what they get.  If is to be yelled at by a coach then obviously they needed that yelling to get their attention!!

It is a sad fact that the children now have their parents to protect them when they get a little scolding by a coach/teacher.  I wonder if when they grow up and become NFL players,  if when the coach yells at them, if when their million dollar contracts are put on the line if their MOM's will come out on the field and go to the team meetings and threaten them with slander!!!!!!!!!!  I wonder?

As far and the Board Members:

John Loughlin could not be any more of a worthy canidate for the roll of President of the organization.  He has donated so much of his time to this organization.....  Apparently you have not been here long enought to know what it was like before this board was elected....  John started just like the rest of us with his kids playing football and sitting on the sidelines every night, every weekend and volunteering his time for the organization.  When it was time for the old board to retire he stepped up for the challange.  This organization was a total WRECK before they came on board.  You need to be a good person at heart, a good parent, and a true leader to do what John has done.  So that being said, maybe you should do a little research on the previous board and do some comparrisons!!!!!!  YOU MAY BE SURPRISED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as not letting you son play because he was not good enough, that is totally discressionary of the coach.  If he feels the need to sit your son out then obviously there was a reason why, and not because he was a bad player!!!!!!!!!!!!  I believe that would be what you deduced from the situation.  Maybe you were never taught that sitting on the bench is a lesson, I was!  That is what makes you work harder and become a better player!  Your coach is not the only person to teach you how to play ball.  I guess proof that you also never played would also come from the fact that you do "speak out against the organization".  Respect for elders, respect for teachers, coaches, people with authority must have been the day that you skipped school.  I wonder how that comes across to your son.  What kind of lesson are you teaching him.  Certainly not respect to your coach!!

The children that missed games or practices.....  I wonder if you found out why they missed the games or practices.  I am sure that it was not because they did not want to play.  If you took a pole of the boys to see just how many WANT to play I am sure that you will find out that they are all entheuastic to play ball and they missed games or practices because of previous engagements that could not be missed.  Several parents on several teams have several children playing at all different times during the season.  Sometime at the same time in two locations.  DO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND THE DEDICATION OF THE PARENTS, SOME OF WHOM ARE ON THE BOARD, OF THESE CHILDREN AND THEIR GAME????? Do you understand how many hours football involves.  Do you understand the total and utter selflessness being a football parent involves?  You don't whine and cry over it.  You watch your children play and have fun, win or lose "THAT IS HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED".  The "all about the kids" and "It's about winning" is so wrong and proof that you never played a game in your life.

Going back to your quote on "the coach not being an experienced".  What part of volunteers do you not understand?  We are not expecting NFL or even High School coachs to fill the field.   Why don't you ask your "OUTSIDE COACHING FROM ANOTHER SOURCE" to volunteer his time to the effort?  Any child will respond and perform well with one on one coaching.  Wake up!!!

Our coach talked had a chant that he tought our children and it was said like this:


you seemed to have left out the last two words of this chant. 

Honor everyone, fellow teamates, coaches, parents, reffs and yourself!  (Something you should look into)
Respect everyone, fellow teamates, coaches, parents, reffs and yourself! (something again I suggest you get a handle on!)
Dicipline "  "  (Obviously you don't carry much on that level as well)
and TEAMWORK --- Teamwork includes parents, coaches, players etc.  (You were obvioulsy an only child or a lonely one)

Abusive...... WOW Hello we are talking about Football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The roughest sport out there!  Abusive??? The coach pinched a child? Really!!!  I guess that there is no dicipline in your house and I guess maybe your child is again an only child, spoiled????  Look up the word abuse before you start accusing people of that horrible act!!

Winning teams are all that matter.  Okay well as I said previously I have been with this organization for 6 years and with the cheelearers for several years before that.  They boys just don't start winning in one season.  I have watched some of these boys play since they were on flag.  They have been working together as a "TEAM" with their coaches for a long time.  The 105 team deserves all that they are given.  They have worked very hard as a "TEAM" to get to the top!!!  Maybe you should look, again, at the past years accomplishments.  The Knights have never had team jacks, let alone two years in a row!!!  They played hard and WORKED to get to where they are now. 

Our jerseys are the best!!  Thanks to Jeff with his pure excitement and joy to take the organization from where it was to where it is now.  You really have no idea of the work it took from this man.  From all of these men on the board.

Before you continue to post such accusations and horrible comments you should do some research!!!!

As this is a quote from your complaint:
"ALL of the money taken in by other teams is put toward jackets and awards for this single winning team and their coaches. (As irony would have it - most of the Board members are coaches on the winning team) The most outspoken coaches are the ones that direct the winning teams and get the greatest attention for winning. They were even on the news for winning.  This attention is hard to let go of with egos at stake. The Athletic Director and Coach, Jeff McClinton, said "he could not guarentee the safety of my child on the feild because I spoke out against the league and asked too many questions".  (This person is our league KSL represetative and oversees all team coaches)"

TEAMWORK, this is an organization....  Everyone always contributes to the organization.  If you were to pay for the jackets and the additional fees for these games etc. when your son gets up to these teams how would you afford it.  I know that I would not be able to afford it and then my son would not be able to play.  It is fair the fees be spread out thoughout the organization.  It benefits everyone!!  "As irony would have it" how many of these coaches on the winning team have had or have children in the league?  How many love what they do and do it well and why quit because my son has grown out of the league.  They are the experienced coaches you are looking for, I see that you have one handedly succeeded in have them quit.  They look at each other and say that is what I have to look forward to?  A whinney, all knowing god of football trying to tell me how to coach!  THEY DON"T WANT TO BE BOTHERED!!!!!!!!!!!  I don't blame them.

Can I ask why on earth you would begrudge a child or coach from being on TV because of winning their season for the 4th year in a row?  That is a major accomplishment and they deserve all of the accolades that they can get!!!!!!!!!!!

The statement about "he could not guarantee the safety of my child on the field because I spike out against the league and asked too many questions" I believe that was taken out of context and not ment the way it was stated.  What planet did you come from?  You raise enough of a fuss the way that you are that yeah later in years your son is gonna suffer the consequences!!  Did you not go to school.  He needs to fight his own battles is there are any to be fought!  Football, again is one of the toughest sports around.  Our organization takes every precaution to make sure equipment is up to date and examined for safety every year.  Have you gone to the store and priced equipment????  When equipment has to be replaced it costs alot of money!!!!

You need to stop watching those TV shows and yet again do your research on the past boards and see where this money goes!!!!!!!!!  There are no theves within our organization.

Alcohol at the field.  Tell me I guess that you use your good crystal and glasses to drink at the field.  Oh and I guess that you can afford to buy coffee at every game that is had.  I am sorry but I am penniless and have to resort to buying juice and water and soda and keeping it in my trunk to give to my kids and myself.  I like tea and carry a hot carath of water in my trunk.  Before you go accusing anyone you had better have pretty d**n positive proof of the alcohol consumpsion at the field.  I witnessed no such routyness or abbusivenss towards coaches, referees or opossing teams.  I do believe that you are now scraping the bottom of the bucket trying to just keep your case afloat.  I do not see where alcohol has anything to do with your child playing football.  Please enlighten me......

Yeah, and again John, Maureen and Jeff taking money.  CHECKS AND BALANCES!!!!!  You have no idea how much money it takes to run a football organization.  Check it out.  A non-profit company needs to use the money in the account before the end of the organizations fiscal year.  That would mean not the year of the Board but the football season.  They can use that money to pay for camps and equipment and the examination of equipment before the season!!  Check it out!

Before you go into these questions of the LEGALITY or the LIGITIMACY of the Organization you should really do your homework.........

The township official that is on the board has children that play in the league!!!  He was a coach, for one of those loosing teams,  before he was a board member.....  Have you asked about baseball and what they pay for the fields?  Oh on that note, hey have you asked about soccer they also play on township fields.   Oh did I just open a can of wormes for you.....  Something more to occupy your apparent lack of a life.  Wow you know I would just like to know what you son does while you are ranting an raving about all that is wrong with football!!!! 

Stay with Neshaminy or Bensalem which ever township you live in.  They may want you or did you alreay overstay your welcome with them too?

I am sick I just can't even go on to complete this stupid argument.  Have you priced what a jersey would cost you to know that the mear $30.00 that was charged to you was an absolute deal????

Go get a life.
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