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Complaint Review: speedticketbeaters.com - Internet

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  • Reported By: Trent — Muscatine Iowa USA
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speedticketbeaters.com The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.... Internet

*General Comment: slow down...

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I paid for and used the service provided by Speedticketbeaters.com, and here are the facts on the service provided by the site owners as I feel my experience should be shared with others...

THE GOOD

  1. Not A Scam

I wouldn't say the service is a scam like some of the other complaints against the company. A scam is buying something, but then not getting it. They are most definitely a real company that offers a real service and they do in fact provide the service they advertise. That said, there are a few skewed truths, like the money back guarantee, bur more on these later.

  1. Well established boundaries

Speedticketbeaters.com does well with setting and maintaining boundaries with what they do, and do not provide for a service. I felt they drew the lines in the sand distinctly, and I knew where I stood with them.

  1. Defense Good, But Not Great

The defense they provide is entertaining to say the least, and in theory, iron clad. It was entertaining to say the least when obtaining my “personalized” defense. I say “personalized” because you can tell they have a boiler-plate defense that they delete and add based on the minimal info you provide on your case. The defense, in theory, is iron clad because on black and white, there is really no refuting the defense, but we are dealing with court full of people, not computers, who use common sense and use logical reasoning, which is why the defense is good, but not great.

  1. Speedy Communication

They answered every question, and they were very prompt with email traffic.

THE BAD

  1. Refund Terms

The “guarantee” was one of the main reasons I went with Speedticketbeaters.com, but they don’t stand behind these words and the terms are very difficult to meet, however I managed to meet every single term. For example, you cannot have used them before and had a successful case (all their testimonials would not allowed to get a refund for any future services), you have to pursue an appeal through the court (more court fees), you must record everything in the courtroom, outlining every word said by all parties involved, just to name a few. Despite following every letter of their prescribed defense and following every portion of the refund terms, they still wouldn’t refund my money. They tried to use the technicality that I didn’t use my entire defense, and therefore I didn’t “follow instructions” because the judge wouldn’t listen to the last portion of my defense (she kept interrupting me) and then she ignored me altogether and moved onto the prosecution for the next order of business. The court would not under any circumstance give me a judge in lieu of a magistrate, and Speedticketbeaters.com claimed their terms require that I stand in court before a judge. Despite these two things obviously being outside my control and despite that their recommendations failed at manipulating the court in the way their refund terms require, no refund was issued.

The reason this didn’t get put in the ugly category below was because they agreed to meet me in the middle and offered me the option to refund half my money and be banned from the site for life, or take three years of free service appended to my original one-year term of service at no charge. At the end of the day it wasn’t a full refund like they advertise on their website….

  1. Prescribed Defense Full of Spaghetti Thoughts

I had much difficulty following the defense and their prescription of what to say and when. They provide you with this huge email of jumbled thoughts and ideas and you have to spend a ton of time deciphering it. I ended up figuring it out chronologically and rewrote the whole thing so I could reference it easily come court day. I am a pretty smart person who has professional engineering licensure and holds two bachelor’s of science degrees and I read government contracts for a living, and even I had a very tough time compiling all of the notes and associated responses.

THE UGLY

  1. Their Defense Requires Lying

I have a real problem with deception in general, but most specifically….lying and their defense requires just that. The first step in their defense system is to get the court date changed to a different day of the week. They recommended citing a religious conflict (a lie) stating I cannot meet on that particular day of the week (my county does it on Fridays). They said to cite “whatever is needed” to obtain a different day of the week, but they recommended a religious conflict as those are the most successful, I guess. The court would not budge on Fridays as the court day. Speedticketbeaters.com also claimed that the court “is required” to get the defense’s permission to be seen before a magistrate, and not a judge. This certainly wasn’t the case for my county, and to make matters worse, they did not provide any guidance on how to force the court’s hand on this issue. I was forced to face the person I obviously lied to about having a Friday religious obligation, and I had to face the person I distinctly requested to be removed from the case in place of a real judge, so you could imagine how well my defense went. The magistrate clearly had a chip on her shoulder walking into the courtroom because of these requests (which she later confirmed).

At the end of the day, their defense didn’t work for me and I didn’t get my money back. I do not regret this experience in that courtroom and I felt more confident going in with the documents in hand, but I simply cannot recommend Speedticketbeaters.com. Let’s face it, their defense is essentially trying to take advantage of an obvious technicality loophole in the system, and from my experience, judges (and magistrates) and smart people alike won’t buy it and can smell B.S. a mile away. It is interesting because the magistrate said exactly what Speedticketbeaters.com said she would, but their prescribed responses got me nothing but a turned cheek. This is because I learned that a big part of winning (or losing) the case revolves around the judge’s perception of you as a person and due to the recommendation to use obvious deception to move the court date and because of the recommendation of essentially insulting the title and purpose of the magistrate (which is an appointed position), the court case was lost before it even started..

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#1 General Comment

slow down...

AUTHOR: Tyg - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, December 14, 2015

 Firstly, YOU have no problem lying when it benefits YOU. Secondly, YOU have lied just by getting the ticket!! YOU lied and said YOU would follow the rules of the road for driving. Thirdly, SLOW DOWN!!! This ALL could have been avoided had YOU just followed the SPEED LIMIT!!! You know that thing YOU have been lying about since YOU got your drivers permit. Yes lets TOTALLY dismiss that YOU put everyone elses life on the line when YOU CHOSE to speed and place ALL of the blame on THEM for YOUR lack of skill in driving. REAL MATURE!!!!!! For someone with so many degrees YOU act awful DUMB!!!!!

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