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Complaint Review: St. Mathews Church, Prayer By Letters - Tulsa Oklahoma

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  • St. Mathews Church, Prayer By Letters PO Box 22148 Tulsa, Oklahoma U.S.A.

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My little sister is 11 yrs old and loves going to church and being apart of helping the people who are in need. She recieved the first letter in the mail about 2 months ago and has been responding to there every letter and every request. I'm a little upset that they would not only con all of you adults but now they have sunk as low as trying to con miners and children for money. In new something was wrong when they asked her to sleep on a people letter before she could read it the next day. They also asked to place a penny outside the door and a penny inside the door. that sounds more like witchcraft the prasing god.

There needs to be something done about this before more children are hurt. I hope that someone stops them.!

Tawnya
Red Bluff, California
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 06/26/2007 02:38 PM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/st-mathews-church-prayer-by-letters/tulsa-oklahoma-74121-9909/st-mathews-churchs-prayer-by-letters-ripoff-dishonest-fraudulent-scam-artists-betrayor-257014. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content

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#6 General Comment

a lier above on the pro-mathews

AUTHOR: Paul - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 11, 2011

saying that there is no other st mathews.. sorry but there is a real one that has fought this crook for years.

The above is a obvious plant and likely a similar con artist helping the main one.



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#5 General Comment

St mathews criminal

AUTHOR: Paul - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 11, 2011

The above pro-mathews letter is likely from the internal organization. There are legit church by same name and another by similar name that are impacted by the con arist.

Fact is, anybody who supports the con, is part of it...and just as evil. The legit churchs dont support this for the reason of the con alone.

To even think its legit flys in the face of reality and the reality that no church would have entered into the same kind of 'mail' b..s especially since this con has been blocked in past by authorities in the past.



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#4 Consumer Comment

Re: St. Mathew's Church

AUTHOR: lnd2010 - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 21, 2010

My dear friends,

I recently looked up St. Mathew's Church as well. My husband also recieves the leters and acts of faith ( not withcraft as mentioned in another comment) and what I found, on the official website (which also was said not to exist) was this....

Saint Matthews Churches Seed Faith Offerings and Church Mail. Why are St Matthews Churches Seed Faith Offerings and Church Mail sent to an address in Tulsa?

Saint Matthews Churches practices the principles of seed faith. Saint Matthews Churches board concluded, in 1970, that our church needed highly professional advice in handling seed faith offerings. After talking with many of America's leading clergy and fellow seed faith believers, almost all of them advised us to hire the Joyce and Pollard firm in Tulsa, Oklahoma, noted for its strict integrity. We followed that advice, and this relationship has served Saint Matthews Churches and our seed faith concept well for more than thirty years. Today, churches just like Saint Matthews Churches must comply with a host of state and federal laws, regulations, and requirements. Our professional attorneys handle Saint Matthews records, fill out the necessary state and federal government forms, and answer any questions that state and federal government may have about St Matthews Churches from time to time.

Mr. JC Joyce, Esq., advised Saint Matthews Churches to have the churchs mail and seed faith offerings sent to a post office box in Tulsa, and to have the mail and seed faith offerings delivered to a secular firm, completely independent of Saint Matthews Churches. In accordance with that advice, St Matthews Churches did hire a secular company to open each church letter and seed faith offering under video security cameras. Following the highest caliber recording and accounting procedures, the secular and independent company deposits every seed faith donation into a bank, and records of the checks with which Saint Matthews Churches pays church bills are kept impeccably. Not a single member of Saint Matthews Churches clergy is ever near the church tithes or seed faith offerings. There is not now, nor has there ever been, nor will there ever be a Saint Matthew's Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Following is the method that St Matthews Churches follows for the seed faith donations from Saint Matthews Churches members:

  • St Matthews Churches members mail their letters and seed faith donations to a post office in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
  • The United States Post Office delivers the Saint Matthews Churches mail and seed faith donations to the secular firm that opens it and removes donations.
  • Seed faith donations are deposited into Saint Matthews Churches bank account from which Saint Matthews Churches writes checks from seed faith donations to pay church bills.
  • Then, and only then, every letter is sent to Saint Matthews Churches where they are read and prayer requests are prayed over five times each day.

Saint Matthews Churches has had churches in various cities throughout the years. We now have two churches and have no present plans to add more churches. The Sunday seed faith offerings at the local churches are counted by at least three people, who sign and date the proper documents pertaining to the seed faith offerings. This St Matthews Churches procedure applies only to local churches. This has been the St Matthews Churches policy on seed faith offerings for nearly three decades.

Why does Saint Matthews Churches follow this procedure? The answer is integrity. We are cognizant of the fact that Saint Matthews Churches is one of the few churches with this level of security for their national seed faith donations. However, Saint Matthews Churches chose to follow this procedure because it establishes a proven track record with the US Post Office, an independent and professional accounting firm, and the law firm of Joyce and Pollard.

As noted, Saint Matthews Churches legal counsel advised us to implement these strict procedures pertaining to seed faith donations. St Matthews Churches recommend that all ministers and churches follow these procedures.
copyed from www.stmathewschurch.com

Now, is it a crime to have money and letters sent to a P.O. Box? No. Does this mean they are ripping people off? No. Is it that wrong to give people encouragement and hope? No.

My friends I beg you to stop being so quick to be judgmental. These letters and and offerings help some of us to renew and save our faith. My husband gets a great enjoyment out of these letters. He has grown spiritually and his relationship with God has blosomed. So I ask you, why not read the letters yourself and see if something,just one thing in those letters, doesn't touch your soul. Let us remember not to shoot the messanger, but listen to the message. God Bless.

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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Ask your parents.

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, February 01, 2009

Ask your parents to put a stop to this. All your mom or dad need do is send a certified, return receipt letter to these charlatans to CEASE ALL CONTACT with your MINOR sibling.

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#2 Consumer Suggestion

witchcraft?

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, February 01, 2009

well, considering that witchcraft doesnt and never has existed.

This scam has been around for decades and has been known one for most of that.

Its funny how there are still those who belive in witchcraft.


In the case of the child, Its a shame, but the parent should have been involved in what she did if she was duped into giving.

My own child would never have done that, she would have brought it to me and asked about it, and would have asked me.

But I had already advised her long ago that there are way too many scams & fake setups out there and to advise with me first always.

This in fact was the first ever scam she became aware of at age 7 then (now 12).

She never gives to anything but local and even then only after personal verification in person and proven.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Witchcraft is a possibility as well

AUTHOR: Pac - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 02, 2009

I am sorry that your 11 year old sister was subjected to these Cons, I was introduced to their letters a few years ago, always kind of suspicious of them and i thought myself that some of the things that they ask you to do does seem sinister-like as well. Prayerfully this will not deter her or discourage her to continue believing in God.

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