Report: #1264576

Complaint Review: Tamera Aragon

  • Submitted: Thu, October 29, 2015
  • Updated: Thu, October 29, 2015
  • Reported By: anonymous — Wilmington North Carolina United States of America
  • Tamera Aragon
    6507 Pacific Avenue
    Stockton, California
    USA

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In 2008 or 2009, I met Tamera Aragon at a real estate investors summit in Orlando, Florida. She was one of the guest speakers and was introduced as the "Flipping Queen." She told me she could mentor me and would even invest in deals I brought to her that she liked.

I paid her the required down payment of $2,500 and then another $500 for a total of $3,000. For that, she assigned me "homework" and gave me access to her internet library. The library was huge but I quickly began to slog through all of it. Once I understood the fundamentals of her flipping strategy, I went out and obtained a contract on a promising single family home. 

I presented it to her but I don't think she ever had any intention of doing deals with me or any of her students. She simply told me she wasn't interested, after delaying the matter, and gave me no reason. Other than a brief call after I paid her the $2,500 where we had a brief call asking me about my real estate investing goals, she never advised me or helped me to obtain deals nor did she partner on any deals. Essentially for $3,000, I got access to her library and was assigned homework.

Realizing that access to a library of videos and homework was not my idea of mentoring, I contacted her later by email and asked her for a refund. Essentially, the Flipping Queen "flipped out" on me, telling me in no uncertain terms that she wasn't going to refund my money and that she would sick her lawyer on me. 

Her respones in her emails were not of the seemingly professional I first me but of a hysterical, frantic woman at her wit's end. I could only guess that others had requested refunds and the only thing she knew was to lash out in a childish way.

Later, I received a notice of her chapter 7 (liquidation) bankruptcy. The strange thing is that she continues to spam me with her "get rich in real estate" offers for her and her cronies. I've emailed her at least 5 times to stop sending emails to me but she refuses and does not provide an unsubscribe button in her emails. She has probably sent me about 100 emails.

My advice is never do business with Tamera Aragon or anyone affiliated with her. There are legitimate, honest real estate pros out there but she isn't one of them. I don't fault her for filing bankruptcy but I do fault her for her dishonesty in taking my $3,000 without actually doing anything for it and, to add insult to injury, for continuing to spam me even after she responded personally to my email! Her get rich offers are pure rubbish and I advise you to turn and run from doing business with her.

By the way, I warned her in an email that if she didn't stop spamming me that I would file a report her. She just ignored me. I guess she just doesn't care.

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#1 Author of original report

Her "Sound Business" Principles Lead To Her Filing Bankruptcy

AUTHOR: - ()

Ms. Aragon ends this debate by saying that she promotes "sound business and real estate" principles and to research her 13 year online reputation. If she practices "sound business and real estate" principles, why did it lead to her filing chapter 7 bankruptcy? Does this sound like a "sound business" plan for success?

As for her 13 year online reputation, what does that even mean? After filing bankruptcy, she went from being a real estate investing guru to selling coconut oil so she wasn't even in REI for a great portion of those "13 years." 

As for her statement that she now doesn't promote get rich schemes, just read the titles of her emails and judge for yourself. Like other hucksters, she either offers these schemes or that of others for a cut of every gullible person who pays their hard earned money for fools gold. As they say "everything that glitters is not gold" and her emails are full of glitter.

Unfortunately, I was gullible and am out about three grand. Avoid buying into her "programs" and seek out good real estate investing information that is readily free or very low cost.

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

My 13 Year old online reputation speaks for itself

AUTHOR: Tamera Aragon - (USA)

I am done replying to these false accusations.  

Anyone who reads this, as I always advise, you will want to do your own due diligence on me.

You wont be able to do this sasme research for this anonymous poster.  I can assure you I do not promote any
get rich quick" schemes but sound business and real estate principles.  


Please read prior rebuttals, research my name on the 112,000 other links you will find when you searh "Tamera Aragon" ...  and decide for yourself. 

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#3 Author of original report

No, Ms. Aragon, It Is You Who Are Lying

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I think the Flipping Queen has flipped out.

No, Ms. Aragon, it is you who are lying. 

First, according to the bankruptcy notice I received in your bankruptcy, it stated that you filed chapter 7. Maybe your lawyer didn't explain it to you but under chapter 7 there is no "reorganization." It is a straight liquidation and there are no set payments under a payment plan as in chapter 13. So on this point you have lied.

Second, I did ask for a refund but you refused and then filed bankruptcy. I think it is self-evident that there were other creditors other than me and, as unsecured creditors, we received nothing. I'm sure you understand that since no payments were made in your bankruptcy. So how in the world did these other people get paid as you claim?

Perhaps you've had a happy former student or two but I don't know of any successful real estate investors that were former students of yours. And I don't think you can group yourself with Robert Kiyosaki or Donald Trump. Who are we kidding?

As for the spamming, I have all the emails where I asked you to stop emailing me and, no, your emails did not provide an unsubscribe link. 

Had you stopped spamming me with your garbage get rich emails, I would have never filed this report so you only have yourself to blame. 

To the public at large, if you're a person who is considering investing any money in any of Tamera Aragon's programs or get rich quick schemes, I would advise you not to. There is some good real estate investment education out there that is free or very low cost and there are a few good REI teachers, however, Tamera Aragon isn't one of them. 

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

This anonymous poster is lying.

AUTHOR: Tamera Aragon - (USA)

I want to start by saying my passion in this business is to help others follow their path to success.  I even offer free 30 day training allowing a person to  obtain many free tools and services I have created. reiposse.com   If you really did pay for a training from me, you  could not have done what it takes to make it happen or you  would have achieved the goal…. OR I would have happily given you a refund should you have requested it in a timely manner.   I have phone number, email, contact pages on all my websites.  Very easy to reach me. It seems you would prefer to have the victim role when you experience failure and now 6 years later  post lies about someone else who appears to be having some success.   Your time would be better spent focusing on other things. You are the only one to ever do anything like this in my 13 years of training and coaching others.  I think that speaks for itself.  However, I will address some of what you mentioned in case anyone reads you post and wants an explanation.

  1. Yes, I along with Robert Kyasaki, Donald Trump and many other successful real estate investors were forced file BK to reorganize our businesses during the market fall out. 

 

IMPORTANT TO NOTE: I paid all bills due in this reorganization and definitely NEVER owed any customers including you. I I have NEVER left a client I legitimately owed unpaid.  ALL my bills were paid. You are completely lying.  If I was a type of person to steal money, I , you would not be the ONLY one attacking me on this. I have trained and coached over 120 people since 2005.   If you did ask for a refund, I am certain you did not ask for a refund within the time frame I offered (or ever?)  as I usually offer 30 – 60 days) or  you would have received one.  I happily honor ALL requests for refunds that are given according to the terms I advertise. I didnt see you say when you paid for training. Did you say that? And what date did you ask for refund and recieve this BK notice?  I offer a money back guarantee for ALL my products and services. Obviously if you come to me years after purchasing a product and ask for a refund, you would not get it and not sure why you would expect to. Noone refunds products that are years old.  You have recourse when you ask for refunds as a consumer. Did you know if you  ask for a refund and a company  refuses to give one even after their terms, there is a good chance you would have been able to go to your credit card company to get your money back on your own if you could prove you were cheated in any way? 

 I don’t know who you are as you hiding behind an anonymous name but if you would show your name and contact information, then I am sure I would be able to charge you with slander since that is what you are doing to me. You are spreading rumors and bringing up garbage in an attempt to hurt me.  You are not doing this to help anyone.  And in fact, in making up lies  you may be hurting a person I might have been able to truly help when they choose to believe your lies. I never refrained from paying a customer or client who was owed money. Period.

  1. Re my “snake oil”.  I LOVE my coconut oil. I traveled to Fiji  in 2010 and actually brought a ship load of it back!  bulanaturals.com  It was not short lived and actually still available 5 years later.  Not sure why you brought this up as I tell everyone who will listen about my love for this product.
  1. As I said before about spamming you, you had a choice to remove yourself from my emails.  I only use reputable companies to email. If you got on my list you requested to be on it. And you could have easily hit one button to be removed at any time.   The system would have removed you automatically.  Re the sudden stopping of spam? I don’t know how could have stopped your spamming since I don’t know who you are?

I am not going to let you tarnish my perfect reputation by posting these lies and not defending myself.  Anyone can search online for my name:  tamera aragon - and see proof that my reputation is excellent. You are lying in what you have posted here about your not receiving a refund you were due according to terms of what you bought.  As I said in my previous response. I care very much about my clients success and this is evidenced by hundreds of positive messages found all over the internet today. 

 

 

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#5 Author of original report

Ask Her About Her Bankruptcy and Coconut Oil

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In response, I offer the following undisputed facts:

1. Tamera Aragon filed for chapter 7 bankruptcy in California. As you may not know, chapter 7 is a liquidation (not a payment plan) so her unsecured creditors, including her former students, received nothing, zero, nada.

2. Following her bankruptcy, she began selling and promoting coconut oil. 

Now, if this was a false report, how would I know this? I know she filed bankruptcy because, as I stated in my earlier report, I received an official notice from the bankruptcy court because she owed me money (even though she denied it in her emails) and listed me as a creditor on her bankruptcy petition. 

Fact:  only creditors are notified of a bankruptcy filing.

I knew about her short lived foray into coconut oil because she emailed (spammed) me just she did continually for years even though I asked her repeatedly to stop doing so. (Refer to my earlier report).

As you can plainly see from her response, she doesn't mention her bankruptcy nor the fact that her former students, like me, whom she owed money were never paid. This is what is referred to as concealment and dodging the issues. 

I don't fault her for filing bankruptcy but I do for (1) her refusal to acknowledge that she owed me money and threatening to sick her attorney on me (prior to her filing bankruptcy), (2) the many years she has spammed me after repeatedly asking her not to, and (3) her lack of honesty and truthfulness in her response. I'm sure there were many other former students and others who were hurt by her bankruptcy and being ripped off but she has never acknowledged responsibility or apologized.

Interesting, the spamming from her has stopped so filing a report here has accomplished that goal.

Unfortunately, there are some snake oil sales people in the real estate investing business that give it a bad name and Tamera Aragon is one of them. You can always tell them because their emails always contain some type of suspicious hype using buzz words such as "millionaire," "easy," "system," etc. and her emails are typically like that. These spammy emails are designed for one thing and one thing only and that is take your money. 

I only wish that I had been not so trusting of this con woman and had someone to warn me of her like I'm doing now.

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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

I care very much

AUTHOR: Tamera Aragon - (USA)

#1 - I find it odd that this report is being filed 6 years after this "Anonymous" writer claims to have worked with me. 

#2 - I care very much about my clients and am willing to do all it takes to drive them toward success

#3 - I have a phone number where anyone is able to call during normal business hours to ask for assistance. This client never brought any issues to my attention or I would have addressed them. 209-957-6971

#4 - I have never offered to partner with any student ever on any real estate deals. And I am very efficient in responding any questions and issues that arrise. I offer training, tools and personal coaching and have in fact trained 120+ students since 2005.  I have never received a complaint prior to this one because I take great pride in assuring students get MORE than what they are promised. I go by the "under promise/over deliver phylosophy.   

#5 - There is a "unsubscribe" button on all of my emails this person claims he has asked to be removed from. Because I work with companies that handle these unsubscribes automatically, I am not sure what he means to say I am ignoring his requests. What good would it it do for anyone to continue to email someone who wants to unsubscribe?  I find it interesting that this person is still reading my emails. 

In summary, I believe the claims made here are false and made up.  I hope anyone reading what is written here will Google my name and find the many many pages of GREAT words of appreciation written about me. I take great pride in my reputation and sad that an anonymous person is able to make false claims were my hands are tied to do anything about.  Please feel free to go to www.tameraaragon.com to take advantage of the many, many free articles offered there. Note the comments at the bottom of the as well. THere are thousands - all good. 

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