The State of Texas Our glorious government Ripped off MY CAR!!! TWICE!!! Austin, Texas

I don't drink, there was no alcohol involved, the word is nowhere in the text and I actually PARTIALLY agree with you about people who have a problem drinking and driving. 

OP has "always been relatively poor"

It comes from generations of the entitlement mentality.  The way a problem is solved in that world is "someone do somthing to fix this for me.  Nothing is my fault - I honestly believe that and therefor honestly believe I am a victim.  Money is somthing that is given to me in limited quantities based on my need." 

If you want to know why you have always been poor - it is because of the way YOU THINK.  The fact that some external force that was beyond your control (IE getting pulled over) was necessary for this situation to have occured, you blame the entire situation on that.  You don't take into account that you should have taken care of YOURSELF by having all your paperwork, lic, etc up to date.  IF YOU had done that, the cop probably would have checked your paperwork and let you go on with no problems.  So, although it is true that if the cop had never been there, and never pulled you over you wouldn't have this problem - YOU can't control what the cop does - YOU can control what YOU do.  Poor people are poor because they focus on the aspect of problems that they have no control over (ie the existance of the cop) rather than addressing the aspect that they do have control over (Having your paperwork current).  This is illustrated by the reply to above posts noting this where the OP again finds somthing external to blame for not having a current lic. ie the cost and trouble of getting a lic. (which is almost nothing)  How many thousands of people in texas fill out a form and pay $12 to renew their lic every day?  And yet because it is a minor BARRIER - suddenly it becomes a CAUSE in povthink.  Another example - "my family split up because we don't have a car."  My wife would not leave me if we suddenly had no car.  But, in his mind, because the car being taken is totally external and not his fault, and it probably caused additional problems in his relationship, he can again ATTRIBUTE CAUSATION TO THE ITEM THAT HE BELIEVES HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER and ignore anything and everything that he did to contribute to the problem.  Now his wife is gone and its not his fault, following all the povthink back to its source - it is the fault of all the red tape and $12 cost that made it IMPOSSIBLE for him to renew his lic, and of the existance of the evil cop who, and of the state.  All things he can't control.

The OP's latest reply is really interesting.  Basically - "we are poor.  we need this fixed, so someone should set up a program to fix this."  In povthink - need on their part requires action on someone elses part.  The only way to resolve a situation is for someone else to fix it.  (seems rational if as above you view the world in such a way that the cause of all of your problems is the external and uncontrolable aspect that plays a role in any given situation.)  Again.  Need on his part requires action on YOUR part.  Who is going to pay for this program - not povs - they don't produce anything.  So they should benefit by having their need met, and we should pay by producing enough to fund this program he wants.  In povthink, the solution to a problem never requires the pov to produce anything.  generations of entitlement have removed any cognative association linking production to met needs.  The association is govt program that fixes everything to met need.

Here is the thing.  Povs ARE, in a way, really victims.  By allowing our govt to FORCE us to support povs, we have contributed to causing them to develop povthink, which in turn guarantees that they will always be poor.  They willl never act to better themselves because they just don't think that way.  In answer to his final question "WHERE ARE THE POOR SUPPOSED TO FIT INTO THIS WORLD.." the answer is in the place YOU make for youself in it based on what you do with the things YOU control.  Its not the taxpayers job to look after you.  take care of yourself and fix your own problems like everyone else does.  rather than talking about what you need like it is some sacred right to have YOUR needs met by OUR EFFORT, why dont you go out a produce more than you consume and meet your own needs, and make your own place in the world rather than expecting us to give it to you. 

And to anyone who is tired of our govt forcing us to let the povs ride us like donkeys and steal our productivity - one thing really changed my outlook on this.  The govt, the povs, the "programs" don't produce anything.  They all depend on us to produce.  We have the power because we are the producers.  We will always be ok - we are the engine that makes everything work.  They need us, we don't need them.  Change the way you produce to legally meet your needs and legally avoid paying taxes that support the welfare class.  I'm not saying quit your job and move to the mountains where one days productivity is $6 worth of food (unless you want to) but try planting a garden that grows food.  It is a nice pass time, and you'll never get a w2 or 1099 for that cucumber you grew, and you won't pay sales tax on it.  Look into solar power, drilling a well, anything you can do to be more self sufficient.  If you are going to landscape and maintain plants anyway - use trees and bushes that grow things you can eat like oranges or apples.  If you need to paint your house, and your neigbors do also, get together and help each other rather than paying someone who feeds the system to do it.  Look for opportunities to live just as well on less, save more, and legally move your productivity outside of the tax code.  slowly phase out contributing to the system.  Also, if you spend your time helping your neigbors, and tending a garden, you will get some exercise and get to know people.  It sounds small - but there is a "multiplier effect" every dollar you spend (or don't) feeds the system by way more than $1 because it is taxed when you earn it, then when you spend it it is taxed again (by whoever earned it) and so on.  You don't have to go overboard to make an impact.  Just keep your eyes open for ways legally starve the system.  Read the tax code with regard to barter - barter is often taxable.  Always pay what you owe in taxes.  Most of us don't have the option to buy a 20 acre farm, and spend $60k on a solar system, and $8k on a well etc.etc.etc and it's not like we want our daily productivity to become a $2 worth of cucumbers - so we have to participate in the system.  But think about how you participate, who you pay for goods and services, and what you can do yourself to save money and keep money out of the system.  With the current budget problems, now is when they need us most to produce even more for them.  Produce less.  Speed up the rate at which these socialist programs fail.  Don't be afraid to help people for free, helping people is good.  But do it by choice.  Not because the government says you must.

We still don't know why this person was originally pulled over.
How long their license was expired?
Did the have valid Registration and Insurance?

Then we get this "gem" of a sentence.
Now, from my experience once someone gets a mangled license it is very confusing and difficult to sort out the mess
- Your claim was that the license is expired.  Exactly what do you mean by "mangled".  Because if it is "mangeled"(damaged?) you would still show in the system having a valid license.  Any cost or hoops would be strictly the cost to replace it which in Texas is $11. 

Now if your license wasn't actully expired but you mean "mangled" as in restricted or suspsended, then what was the reason it is in that status and what "hoops" and "gray areas" are you talking about.

Of course you pick the other entitlement minded person and say they are the sane one. I dont particularly care if you are poor or dont understand the DMV. I do care that you dont take driving drunk seriously. I  honestly hope that you estDONT get your license back without going to a lot of counseling to fix your cavalier attitude towards driving drunk.

as for the rest, You KNEW that driving on an expired/suspended license was against the law. You chose to drive anyways and now you pay the consequences. If you dont understand how to get your license renewed, then you should ask for help. That doesnt give you the right to just ignore the law.

The bottom line here is that you broke the law.

Period.

You CHOSE to drive without a valid driver's license.

That was a CHOICE you made to break the law.

All choices have consequences.



The state did not "steal" your car.

They impounded it as required by law.



You never answered the question as to WHY you were pulled over in the first place.

Obviously, you broke another law, and got pulled over.



So, in recap, you broke at least 2 laws and you fail to accept that responsibility for your own actions.



Furthermore, if you are 41 and have "been poor most of your life" you are just lazy and/or stupid.

WHY have you been poor most of your life?

Let's hear that EXCUSE.



As previously stated, if you cannot afford to meet the legal requirements to drive a car, DON'T DRIVE!!

That should be a real simple concept even for a moron.



Poor people, walk, ride bikes, and take busses.

Why do you think you are special?

Your not.



I'm tired of paying for people like you.

That is the real rip off here.

I pay huge insurance premiums and yet I have a clean drivers license for over 20 years, have never had a chargeable accident, and I meet all of the legal requirements to drive my car legally. Yet my premiums relect the actions of people like you.

YOU have ripped me off.



Loser.

OUR WINNER IS: "We are in it together - Montgomery (United States of America)"

Sounds to me this guy is really on to something. See the situation I face single mothers also suffer not to mention other disadvantaged people, are they losers too? No, disadvantaged but not losers or idiots or morons or any other adolescent tag the degenerates have labeled me here. This man is a genius that if the state would implement a counseling program for people who have a hard time "conforming to" or rather meeting the requirements the rules dictate, that could actually save the state a lot of welfare money, boost the moral of a lot of people and allow many to actually compete in an already brutal market instead of "kicking a family man while he's down".  Really makes me glad God is not a man because what you read above is a perfect example of how mankind is full of spite and hate. Now, from my experience once someone gets a mangled license it is very confusing and difficult to sort out the mess because there are so many agencies holding their hands out trying to collect money not to mention the hoops and grey areas you have to dig and pray to find clarity on so someone who has all the resources listed in a concise manner to help folks develop a clear plan to get back on track or rather help counsel to prevent them from getting into that shape to begin with would really be nice and IMO is just a downright GOOD thing and the RIGHT thing to do. Ok, counseling. Beautiful. Texas has no such program. Here we go to try and make one. :)

 

Hi, I am a

former state police officer and I have been in the military for the last 8

years. I have been to Iraq twice and I know how the world can suck the life out

of you. With that being said, yes, I am very conservative in my ways and I know

the police dont give you a second chance. If you break a law then YOU BREAK A

LAW!



You have to realize

that you need counseling. I dont know if you ever saw the movie Mr. MOM but,

it has a good message. It went something like this South to drop off, North

to pick-up. This represented a standard to drop off the kids to school in that

movie. The key quote here is Youre not doing it right.



Society has all

of these standards and there are many who struggle to meet them. Some of us are

good at it and some of us just fail. I can honestly say that you are not doing it right!



 



I have pulled

over many drivers that did not have a current drivers license. We are afraid

that people do not take this seriously. There is always the chance to renew

your licenses before you appear before court.



My concern is

that you need to seek proper counseling and get some help. Bad things happen to

everyone, even ME! It real is our own fault, but there are people willing to

help.



Ok, I originally

came on this site to find out about a refrigerator.

Hey loser....You were asked some pertinent questions, but failed to answer.



1. WHY were you driving without a valid driver's license? Do you think that just because you are a broke a*s loser you are exempt from paying to renew your license?

2. WHY were you stopped by the police? Whay law did you break to cause the stop?

3. Why do you think that you are above the law? No license means no drive.



Idiot.

Loser.

Probably a bunch of D.A.'s and "Judges".
- At one time or another when someone posts something the OP doesn't like they get accused of being an employee of the company.  But I think this is a first where they are being accused of being a government official. 

Anyways, since the OP didn't add a single bit to their report, one must figure that what others wrote was correct.   That not only their license was expired, but probably their registration insurance as well.  Which the expired tags are probably why they got pulled over to begin with.

Driving is not a right it is a priviledge, if you can't afford the requirements of owning and driving a car then you shouldn't have a car.  But if you CHOOSE to drive then you also CHOOSE to accept all of the consequences.  So accept the responsibility of this because the "State of Texas" didn't do anything to you...it was all your actions.

Sounds like all who commented so far are either programmed to think stealing is right (if it sounds justified by law) or you're all cops or somehow affiliated with the "LAW". Probably a bunch of D.A.'s and "Judges".

Newsflash! Nobody owes you anything!!

You are most likely poor because you are stupid and/or lazy.

Lose the welfare mentality.

Get a job.

Get 2 jobs!

BUT....STOP WHINING!!

Nobody wants to hear it!

If your drivers license was not valid, you shouldn't have been driving!

And, WHY did you get stopped in the first place??

You obviously broke some law which gave them probable cause to make the stop, right??

Stop blaming others because you are a loser.

You are a loser because you CHOOSE to be a loser.

I really hate that welfare mentality.

Nobody owes you anything.

Take the bus.

The only people you should be flagging as ripoffs are whoever raised you to be such a loser. Nobody should be driving without a valid license or insurance. And if your family split up over this, then there's more to your story than you let on.  Did your spouse leave, or did the state take your kids? How did you lose a home over a car being impounded? Did you have a job and decided to stay home due to not having your car to drive there, instead of finding a way to hitch a ride with someone else, bike or walk to work? Personally, I think driving without a valid license or insurance ought to carry mandatory jail time.

You drove without a valid license so therefore you broke the law.  What if you had an accident and hurt someone (including your son)?? Don't like the way the laws work in Texas then move! Also if you are so broke and homeless how did you get access to a computer?? The Library? Being the victim of a hit and run in Arlington I detest how you "blame" the Police but yet you do not take responsibility for your OWN actions.

Wow, because YOU weren't in compliance with the law, you blame the state of Texas for the loss of your car, the loss of your home and the loss of your family...anything else you'd like to blame THEM for?



Get a life and take some responsibility for your own actions or you'll forever be blaming others for your woes and remain "homeless, family-less and poor."



Uh, if you're on the street, whose computer did you use to post all this drivel?

They stole my car because my license had expired (what, I forgot how to drive???)

I'll bet you didn't have insurance either.  Ya got caught and they impounded your car-pooh hooh.

You need to have a valid license and insurance, just like the rest of us.  There's nothing special about you that you should be allowed to drive around willy-nilly without a license or insurance.

Actually, the fact that you are poor and have no assets makes it even more important for you to have insurance in case you cause an accident that results in injury/property damage to someone else.

Why should someone else suffer just because you think you're special.  If you can't afford a license and insurance, then DON'T DRIVE.

Your car may have been impounded but not stolen. There is more to the story than what you have revealed. Your license may have been suspended, the auto registration was not current, the insurance was not current, the car was reported stolen due to nonpayment of the car note or you lost the car due to a court judgment.

How long ago did your license expire? Why didn't you get it renewed?