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Complaint Review: U S Career Institute - Ft Collins Colorado

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  • U S Career Institute 2001 Lowe St Ft Collins, Colorado United States of America

U S Career Institute Weston Distant Learning Center Scam like no other totally unprofessional Ft Collins, Colorado

*Author of original report: I am surprised to say the least

*Author of original report: Debbie's Response

*UPDATE Employee: Weston's Detailed Response

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 When I enrolled at USCI I specifically asked if they were a credited school that was recognized in the medical community. I was assured that when I complete my courses  not only would I have a great career but I would be able to work from home or in an office type environment.  I then after several days of thinking enrolled and took the Medical Claims and Billing course. I received my certificate on Nov 15 2010 and it is April 15 2012 and I am no closer to getting a job in this field then the man in the moon.

 Why you might ask, Because they lied and mislead me. The certificate is not worth the paper it is written on. I have done all the things that they say to do, I have tried on several occasions to contact someone and get straight answers, I have emailed and received back on only one occasion the standard form letter they would send to everyone , ya know that one thats about a page long and does not answer one single question you asked. I not only have tried to contact a knowledgeable person since I have completed my so called course. But I had on occasion a question about a lesson or more questions about this so called work at home training, at one point I got a live person to talk to only to find out that I could not talk to an instructor and the reason was simple to her she said to me "your behind on your payment so you can't talk to the instructor until you bill was current". I was not late I have up graded the program and had not my the payment yet. Here is the kicker the Original course before the up grade was paid in full the day I enrolled. I had to pay to extra for an upgrade that should have been part of the course to begin with, and because I had not made a payment on the later part I was told I could not speak to an instructor. According to the school President Ann Rohr's letter I received I had 23 months to pay for my course. Up to that point I had paid all but 260.00 and they had the nerve to tell me I could not speak to an instructor or even a someone in student services basically I was left hanging and could not finish my lesson or take my test that week because of this. What happened on that of many issues is without a doubt the most irresponsible and unprofessional way of handling a students issue not to mention bad judgement on the part of the school.

   There were other instances where I had called and left message for an instructor to contact me only I after 3 days had to either call again or email in order to correct the issue at hand. The staff or whatever they are that answer the phones in student services were rude and never had an answer for my questions ever! Having these people answering the phones representing this Institution is a disgrace to customer service as a whole not to mention embarrassing. As I progressed through this course I had even more questions regarding the possibility of not being able to get work with out being certified by the AAPC or AHIMA. I had asked several people from this Institution from the student services staff, the admissions staff to the graduate counselors to which the answer was unanimous " No I do not have to be certified to work in this field and they do not offer the exam at USCI." While I found that odd at best I had to go along with the overwhelming response to that question. I also was shocked at what they gave me as far as supplies or tools towards my "new career"  I had to purchase the ICD-9 book and the CPT codes manual. the software they sent me crashed my new computer and it took me 6 months and numerous phone calls and emails to USCI and Med Look and finally Microsoft before I finally was able to use my computer again and by the way it was an additional cost of 695.66 out of my pocket before I could us my system again. Prior to using there software my system was fine no issues at all. I installed the med look software and it thrashed my system. I was promised a better version of the software as of today's date I have received nothing. 

So lets see here up to that point it had cost me $2235.16 I had a  week left of finals and then i received my Certificate. I did what they instructed us to do after completion of the course and that was to contact the graduate counselor, I did had to leave  message of course and almost 3 weeks later I received a call from a so called graduate counselor. One would think after everything else that went on at least now the graduate counselor would point me in the right direction, No, I did not expect them to place me in a job at all I am capable of finding work myself. When I was taking the course I was expecting to learn the ins and outs of working from home like all of USCI's informational brochures indicate and assure you the consumer that at the end of the course you will be able to work full-time or part-time at home or in an office, you can be a remote coder work from home blah blah blah. to which none of that is true nor did I get any concrete info on how to go about working from home. But in the end none of this will happen and why not, why can't someone who passed this course with a 90% get a job in this field? Because what they don't tell you even when you point blank ask them is you do have to be certified now not have a piece of useless paper from them with the word "certificate" across the front (which by the way i could have printed off MS office myself) but you have to have been certified specifically the CPC through the AAPC or the CCS through the AHIMA. That is the certification that employers want you to have to work in this field period! I know this because I am presently working on getting my certification, where i am now is working on how to take said exams without going through a course that actually prepares you for these exams and costing me yet hundreds of dollars more for something I should already have and USCI been straight with me in the beginning when i asked them about certification. USCI is not even recognized by the medical community for these courses.

This is not the first time USCI has heard this from me I told them all of this in the after graduation survey they mail out. and by phone more than once, I still to this very day have not gotten that graduate counselor to give me any more of an  answer to my question of " how do you go about working from home like i was promised" my guess is because being a remote coder is virtually nonexistent. OH let me correct myself there are remote coders that are legit but to have one of those jobs is not going to happen right out of the gate. in order for this to be a reality you must have to proper education, at least 5 years experience in coding, proper equipment for billing ie: computers and software most companies do not supply this for you. some even have you pay for client lists your a self employed contractor you have to do this yourself and it can be very costly not to mention the legal aspects that go along with home coders. You must know the rules and proper ways to bill a claim the ins and outs of health insurances and lets not forget the GOD Mother of them all MEDICARE you have to you must know the ins and outs of Medicare because the last thing you would ever want is to incorrectly code bills and be accused of fraud it can cost you everything!

 Being a coder is not something that is just a fly by night career it is to be taken seriously, it is a highly competitive field but a very rewarding field as well. I do have hospital experience from another state and worked with insurances and doctors for 18 yrs this why I had decided to further my career and become a coder, this is why I asked the questions of USCI that i did only to be mislead and lied to costing me hundreds of dollars that I would not have spent with them had I known, It is not like I didn't explain myself in the beginning with USCI I told them I was unemployed and wanted to work in this field due to my past experiences. They assured me that taking this course would give me the advantage I needed to obtain my goal. That is the worst lie I have ever been a victim of. I received nothing that i can use to obtain my goals of becoming a medical coder.  Did you know that medical practices and facilities nationwide only recognize certifications from AAPC and AHIMA any other cerification will not be recognized by the medical community. And this is for those who really want a medical coding future " must have a CPC or CCS credential to get a job otherwise it is almost impossible to obtain employment in this field without them.

What i think USCI shoud do for me at the very least is give me back the money i spent for this useless piece of paper the call a degree so that i can obtain my goals and become employed again. I am still unemployed and presently seeking my "Real Degree and Credentials" with no help whatsoever from USCI.  Personally I think that if the founder Pamela Weston and the President Ann Rohr have an ethical bone in there bodies they would be happy to refund me my monies so I can get what I sat out to get almost three years ago. I wonder how they would have felt had they been "Scammed they way I and countless other have been". USCI lets do the right thing here and have some respect and ethics refund my money it is just a drop in the bucket for you anyway it was all I had to end up with even less if that is possible. This is just wrong and I don't understand how you sleep at night. I am one disgusted consumer and deserve to be righted.       

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I am surprised to say the least

AUTHOR: Debbie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, April 26, 2012

Dear Leslie,
I do not understand how you can say that customer service is your priority there at USCI. There were so many instances that contradict that statement just in my dealings with USCI.  

And I cannot believe that you are not going to address the fact that a student who is representing your Institution made such a flagrant error by telling me that I could not talk to an instructor or anyone nor would she take a message.  This is not priority customer service this is without a doubt the worst possible exhibit of customer service I have been a victim of. 30 year in customer service and I have never treated a customer in that fashion. This little mistake alone could potentially cost a business damaging results. I personally think that the founder and the President of USCI need to take a look at the training or lack there of that your staff gets with regards to customer service. Somewhere they have lost it. One of the very first rules is Know who is boss, or the customer is always right. even if they are not. It is a shame that an Institution  the size of USCI does not hire better people or software or what ever training materials you use.

Let me say this because of her bad judgement I received a "D" the only one bringing my over all grade to a 90. Now I don't know about you but the money I spent to better my  skills and further my career was not taken seriously it was taken for granted. Remember I am paying for an education and my money says I deserve to speak to a counselor or instructor with in a reasonable amount of time if left a message and promptly if available. Not being told No or not taking a message or 3 days later when it is a mute point.

Leslie I am by far not a stupid or ignorant person and I have a tremendous amount of respect for customer service reps they are the first person a consumer has contact with and if given a bad vibe that will stay with the customer for ever.  Had this been the only issue I might have chalked it up to poor training skills and little or no experience, But it just keeps s****.> Then we have the issue with the software that by the way i have yet to receive a replacement. Jeff Fagerman may think he worked at length with me to resolve the issue but I also have proof that was not entirely the truth before it was all said and done one of he the  Vice President and a Tech of Microsoft helped me or I would still be without a computer, plus My time and my sisters time 2 full days 13 hr each and my time and inconvenience.  And to set the record straight I was the one who said to Jeff Fagerman it might be a virus not the other way around, it did end up being a problem due to a bad disk and download. I am not saying that it was done purposely I am just telling you that it happened.

The issue of Working from home is so far from the truth. anyone who does a little research online will see that it is out there but requires 2 to 5 yrs on job experience minimum, ( have not found one single opening that will take you on without it ) also you don't technically need to be certified in Medical Billing however recruits won't even consider it if you are not certified or you have little or no experience and are working on becoming certified. I know I have 18 years experience with great references to prove it and a wonderful work record and ethics but no certificate. Further more every Office Manager or Physician was able to speak to told me without lots of  hands on experience and the trust of the person they would not out source there billing. That is how they get paid if it is not done properly then they lose money, patients, and spend an enormous about of time and money trying to recoup they'er loses and business. That alone would deter alot of business from sending there lively off to someone else to manage.

 I come from a self employed family we owned two businesses until my father retired. So I am well versed in what it takes to be self employed and owning your business. But my question to Tracey was more on the how to find companies who do outsourcing but I was given nothing she simply said read the Jobfinder and then call me as if I were 16 yrs old, never even tried to answer the question at hand, again, another fine example of priority customer service. Then there are the two graduates she gave to me one who was to scared I was going to take her clients away she was reluctant to give me a single word of advise. From the sounds of her voice I honestly doubt she was making such a great living working from home, I don't know that for a fact just and observation of mine, the other one didn't even return my calls. Now that is good priority customer service there isn't Leslie.
to summarize that last paragraph: you do need experience 2 to 5 yrs min, you must be certified if you intend to work in this field ( although not required), and to have your own business you need to know how to treat customers first the rest falls into place and lets not forget you will need capitol to start and in this economy that is hard to find.

Now I could go on and on but I am going to stop here as I am beginning to become angry all over again. I am not however going away why because I want my refund that is due me simply because I am returning a product that does not work properly and will give me a lifetime of problems, and should have a lifetime return policy on it. LIfetime to me is anytime before I die.  I am due this refund for the reasons I have shown you  above and out of sheer respect for selling me a product that was not entirely what you said it was. Period. You have my number and address on file I think that we can be adult about this and stop airing dirty laundry don't you. I will expect to hear from you by mid week unless you would rather hear from me. I am not busy working so I have all the time in the world. Funny right not!, I look forward to your call.    

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AUTHOR: Debbie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 22, 2012

Leslie,

It took me a bit to get back to you because i wanted to go over my records and notes on my correspondence with USCI and I wanted to look at  my copy of the Enrollment Agreement and at the top of this form it clearly says Medical Coding Course  600 clock hours, 31 quizzes. signed and dated by me. I only have a copy that's all USCI sent back to me. Also all the other paperwork I have says medical coding on it as well..

 When I said it took days to get in touch with some one at USCI I was not joking. I to take customer service very serious. I have records of every time i ever called emailed or faxed to USCI and I am very certain that it was long before 11/17/10, as a matter of fact I have in front of me as i am typing this to you, emails from Teri Oberleitner  dated 4/9/2010 thanking me for my interest int the Medical Coding course and again on 4/13/2010 to follow up on my medical coding decision,on 5/17/10 I had left 2 messages for Annie to call me back but I had to make a third call before I was able to speak with her., at that point we spoke for sometime regarding my upgrade and she was supposed to send my books out the following morning only I had to call back on 5/24/10 because I had not received them yet and I could not go on with my studies without them, thats when I spoke with Heidi. Heidi set up my payments for the upgrade what was and additional $260.00 which I made in three payments.

On 5/26/10 I had a questions about becoming certified and I had faxed that to you with some other issues to which i never got a response. Then again on 6/11/10 I requested information again in regards to being certified yet again no response. I can go on if you wish. I am a bit shocked that you have only  records of me contacting you in Nov 2010 when I had contacted or tried to contact USCI on numerous occasions.

Lets fast forward for a moment shall we. to Aug 30 2010 when I had contacted student services with issues about lesson 20, and was told in a very rude tone that I could not speak to an instructor or anyone because i was late with my payment. I would like you to explain to me what reason on this green earth would you not allow a student to speak with an instructor with regards to a lesson they were having problems with. I have never in my whole life heard of such nonsense ever! For cryin out loud I have a letter that says and I will quote " Your tuition is $1539. For most students that is one down payment of $ 5.00 and 23 payments of $69. Since you will probably finish the course in just a few months, it is important that you know that you have a full 23 months to pay for the course." Now let me see if I understand this policy of yours. If I am late on a payment I can not speak with my instructor at all. Yet if i finish the course in just a few months your going to let me leave prior to completing my payments.  I don't know about you but  I have a problem with that policy. You say that customer service is one of your highest priorities I would have to disagree. The customer service I was given on 8/30/10 was nothing short of idiotic and ridiculous. Whoever told your staff that keeping someone from obtaining the information to complete there assignment was a good call. Do you realize that I am paying you for your service how dare anyone keep a student for  speaking to an instructor for any reason let alone a late payment. What happened to me was a direct result of the extremely poor judgement that student blantenly took upon herself to tell me no I could not speak to anyone with the issues I had and because of that I received my only "D" bring my grade down to a 90. Had I been able to speak to MY instructor I very well may have gotten an "A" but we will never know that now will we. You have no idea how I felt and it was just to bad for me that was the policy and nothing I could do to change it. I felt so betrayed to put it mildly.  This is just one of the many things I find disheartening about this whole experience.

Moving on to speaking with Kinsey that conversation lasted all of 7 mins at the very most. I knew no more then I did when I called. Leslie, I am by far not a stupid or ignorant woman I have not made it his far in life with my head in the sand, the only thing Kinsey to me was to read the Job finder and if I had any questions to let her know. She did not explain anything that was not text book and I had already been told this before. I gave up on answering  What I thought was that was going to be a new start for me was turning out to be this horrible nightmare.

Yes I did finally speak with Kinsey  and she did give me 2 names of recent graduates when i called them for some pointers one girl never called me back and the other one was so reluctant to talk to me that i finally just said thank you for your time and hung up. I explained that to Kinsey but she just said humm that is strange. At that point I had taken enough. 

As for speaking with Tracy yes I, did I explained my situation to Tracy about Medlook and speaking with Jeff Fagerman. I have his emials as well. I first spoke with Jeff on Feb 3 2010 and explained my issue to Jeff with regards to the DVD from MedLook  I was given and how the case was all cracked as if someone had driven over it But he didn't seen to think to much of it and how when i installed the disk and I began to have problems. I was the one who told Jeff it could be a virus so something was not and still am not compuer He gave me me so pointers on how to fix what he thought at this point was the problem. He stated the thought it was a registration issue. Then when that didn't work he said  it was a password issue and possible still a virus. I then to ld Jeff that I had been working with microsoft as well and Microsoft said I didn't have a virus it was a corrupt disk and every time i tried to use it my system would begin to shut down. We went back and forth for a few days, I uninstalled it and re-installed it like he said, we change the configurations we did several things until finally he said he would replace the disk and I have yet to get a new one and I refuse to  put the old one on It took me from Feb 3 2011 until July 2011 before I had  a computer so. All those months with out my computer all because there was a problem with the disk from the get go.

As far as getting this voicemail I was supposed to have gotten from Tracey I never got that information I don't know why or what happened but I have had nothing but grief from this course. 

Leslie, something else you should know I am a very honest person and I would not be telling you this stuff if it didn't happen this way, I don't need to make up stories for any reason. I have had experience in the medical field for 18 yrs I worked in the clinical blood lab at St Mary's Hospital St Louis Mo until I relocated back to California. All I want to do is go back to work in a field I love and enjoy. But I have spent money I don't have to get a better education and further my career only to have less then I had when I started if that is possible. I have applied almost daily for work since graduating in Nov 2010. I assure you I have done my research and every where I have applied wants at least 2 to three years experience and to be certified weather it be a CPC or CCS or a certification from AMBA. I know what i signed up for I know what I did and I am totally dissatisfied with this whole mess. All I want is to get my certification and go to work, I am sure that if you were in my shoes you would want the same. I do not think I am being unreasonable asking for a refund it is my right as a consumer if I am not happy with a product then I return it. This is the same I have been misled I would not have taken just a billing course when I already been a biller I was going for he coding Certificate to have a more lucrative career. Now I have nothing.
Getting a job where I work from my home is next to impossible everyone I have talked to in the industry has assure me that with out at least 5 yrs on job experience and certifications I would be hard pressed to find that kind of job. I have worked all my life and that is all i want to do now. I feel that the information I was given and led to believe from USCI was not entirely true and I want my money back so I can get what i started out to get almost 3 years ago. I feel that I was told what I wanted to hear to sell your package but having one dissatisfied customer is something I would want to have if I were in your shoes. Just stop and think if this were you honestly how would you feel, would you want to be righted so you could go forward with your career. I almost 56 years old I just want to get my job and be done with life is hard enough these days don't make it harder for to save face. It was wrong what happened here plain and simply. Please refund me my money so I to can have a job.  

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AUTHOR: Leslie - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Dear Debbie,
 
We are sorry to hear that you are so dissatisfied with U.S. Career Institute and that you have not  found a position as a Medical Claims and Billing Specialist. We have been  providing quality training for over 30 years and our school is nationally  accredited by the Distance Education and Training Council (DETC). As a graduate  of our Medical Claims and Billing Specialist course, I want to assure you that  you are prepared to work from home as a medical biller. We have many graduates  who are currently working from home in the medical billing field. You mentioned  that it took days to receive a call back from both the Instruction and Graduate Services Departments. We make customer service one of our highest priorities so  taking days to receive a return phone call is concerning. We strive to return  all instructor and graduate services phone messages within one hour of receiving  them. We show that you first contacted the Graduate Services Department on  11/17/10 and spoke with Kinsey, one of our graduate counselors. She gave you  suggestions regarding starting your business. Since you had not had a chance to  read the Medical Claims and Billing Jobs Finder Booklet yet, she recommended you  review that prior to beginning your search. The Jobs Finder outlines how to  prepare marketing materials and identifies medical offices to target in your job  search. She also gave you the names of two graduate referrals to contact who  were successfully working in the medical billing field and could give you tips  and suggestions regarding getting started. On 3/28/11, you spoke with another  graduate counselor, Tracey, who addressed the Medlook software concerns you  mentioned on your graduate survey. She let you know that we would be  investigating this further and would get back to you once we had more  information. We have never had this software cause a students computer to  crash, so we contacted the owner of Medlook to get his input on your situation.  He said they spent extensive time trying to help you resolve the problem, but  the issue was most likely due to viruses that were already on your computer. On  3/31/11, Tracey left a message for you letting you know that Medlook advised you  to remove all of the viruses on your computer and reinstall the Medlook software by downloading it directly from the Medlook website. If you didnt still have  the case with the registration number on it, Tracey let you know that we would  send you another Medlook disk at no charge. Tracey also gave you the contact  information for four additional graduate referrals who were working from home. Grad Services never heard back from you after leaving you this voice message, so we were not aware that you were still having any difficulties.

You mentioned needing  to become certified through the American Academy of Professional Coders (AAPC) or obtain the CCS credential through the American Health Information Management  Association (AHIMA). We did not discuss these certifications with you because  you were not enrolled in our Medical Coding Specialist course. You completed our  Medical Claims and Billing Specialist course and certification is not required  to work in the field. Our Medical Coding Specialist course has been reviewed by  the AAPC and counts as one of the two years of coding experience needed to sit  for the Certified Professional Coder (CPC) exam. Some of our coding graduates do  decide to sit for the CPC-Apprentice certification after graduation and then  have the A removed, once they document having completed the additional one  year of coding employment needed.

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