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Complaint Review: UNION BANK IN NIGERIA - LAGOS

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  • UNION BANK IN NIGERIA 40 MARINA LAGOS, Nigeria

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I HAVE BEEN RECIEVING E-MAILS FROM THESE PEOPLE IN

NIGERIA AND AND FROM THE UNION BANK IN LAGOS,NIGERIA

SAYING THAT PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN A PLANE CRASH AND U CAN

CLAIM THERE MONEY BY FOLLOWING THEIR RULES.IN RETURN I

FOUND OUT FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN LAGOS,NIGERIA

THAT PEOPLE IN NIGERIA ARE ASKING YOU TO SEND MONEY TO

GET THIS ALL TAKEN CARE OF AND THEN THEY KEEP YOUR MONEY

IN RETURN.ALSO THEY HAVE A BANK GIVE YOU INFORMATION AND

WILL IN RETURN GIVE YOU AN ATTORNEY TO USE SO HE CAN BE

YOUR POWER OF ATTORNEY.ALSO IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO TO

NIGERIA AND CLAIM THIS MONEY THEY HAVE PEOPLE ACT LIKE

THEY WORK AT THE BANK AND WILL GIVE YOU THE RED CARPET

TREATMENT AND THEN SCAM YOU OUT OF YOUR MONEY THAT YOU

HAVE BEEN PROMISED.

JULIE
COLUMBIA CITY, Indiana

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#22 Consumer Suggestion

Union Bank of Nigeria SCAMS

AUTHOR: John - (New Zealand)

POSTED: Friday, December 10, 2004

I too have received many emails re. these & other Nigerian Sccams. I responded to some of the emails by telling them that I do not believe them & are sending a Voodoo curse for trying to scam people. One subsequent reply stated that in their country a curse was a very serious matter indeed...

PROBLEM: By merely responding, one has provided the sender, associates scammers & others with a valid email address to henceforth flood your email inbox WITH SIMILAR SCAMS.

However, after CONTINUING TO send a curse to the senders, they seemed to stop abrubtly.

The curse:

You are just one of the THOUSANDS of people making similar claims.....

So you obviously lie & are intent on trying to SCAM people !!.

However, being of a generous nature, I may still be able to assist .... by sending you a chronic Voodoo Curse.......

You will become unwell with a mystery viral illness that will have all medical experts that you consult, baffled.
You will deteriorate slowly at first, then progression will become rapid as your muscles fail & you cannot walk & end up in a wheelchair. After which, your teeth & hair will begin to fall out, your speech become slurred & Your organs progressively fail - You will progressively develop Typhoid, Diabetes, Kidney failure, heart Disease, lung failure & a skin rash that will drive you absolutely crazy.

Finally, Blindness, Paralysis & Dementia will befall you - you will have become a living vegetable!!.

Have a great day & Enjoy your new illness !!!.

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#21 REBUTTAL Individual responds

I just recieved word

AUTHOR: Jason - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, December 09, 2004

That my Great Uncle died about two years ago with his wife and children in a car wreck in Nigeria. Funny thing is I saw my great uncle a week ago at a family get together as he lives in town. I too was told that I get his money due to his death. I responded to the guy and told him that I am with the FBI and he still emailed me a copy of his passport as well as an application. Here is the best part I have no bank accounts anywhere for them to take my money. I will update as to this outcome.

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#20 Consumer Comment

Mr. Goerge Yakasi....Ha,ha,ha...

AUTHOR: Williander - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, September 09, 2004

Well, it began like this:

I was contacted by a man who calls himself, George Yakasi, Director Union Bank of Nigeria PLC. He informed me that a substaintial amount of $13,500,000.00 belonging to English Engineer Johnson Creek has been sitting in his bank since 1999, and he needs a partner to claim them.

To make the long story short, we proceed with him sending me the Certifictate of deposits, idendification cards, etc. I played along with him until to the point he asked me to send him $2000.00 as lawyer fee. On several occasions he even made phone calls to me.

To shorten this, I told him abrubtly that I thought he was a fake. He was a bit angered by this, then I dared him to send me as a proof $200.00. This stupid man, then went ahead and wired to my temporary account $200.00.

After I received told him that I didn't believe him, and got away with his money.

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#19 Consumer Comment

THEY DON'T STOP

AUTHOR: Eran - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, August 21, 2004

I Have been contacted numerous times with the same stuff- How do I block them or get rid of them from harrasing me??

Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:52:48 +0200
From: hamze@tiscali.co.uk Add to Address Book
Subject: BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP

STRICTLY FOR CONFIDENTIAL

BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP

FROM THE DESK OF:Mr, Hamze Ahma

GOOD DAY,

This Letter might come as a surprise to you, especially since we have never met or discussed before. Basically, the message might sound strange, but it is in fact, very real. If only you care to know. The truth is that I should have
notified you first through a more confidential means even if it is at least to respect your integrity, please accept my humble apologies if I had caught you unawares. I frankly do not mean any harm in passing my goodwill message.

I am Hamze Ahmad K.S.M, Bank Manager, Long Term Fixed Deposit
Dept, of Safe Trust Ban k ,Lagos, Nigeria. I have urgent
and very
confidential business proposition for you.

On June 6, 1999, An American mining consultant/contractor
with the
National Mining Corporation, ANN BARBARA MYERS made a
numbered ti me
(fixed)
Deposit for twelve (12) calendar months, valued at
US$25,000,000.00(TWENTY-FIVE MILLION US DOLLARS)in my
branch. Upon
maturity, I sent a
routine notification to her forwarding address but got no
reply. After
a
month, we sent a reminder and finally we discovered from
her contract
employers, the National mining corporation that ANN BARBARA
MYERS died
from
an automobile accident. On further investigation, I found
out that she
died without making a (WILL) and all attempts to trace her
next of kin
was fruitless.

I therefore made further investigation and discovered that
ANN BARBARA
MYERS did not declare
any kin or relation in her official documents, including
her Bank
deposit paper work in my Bank. This
sum US$25,000.000.00 is still sitting in my Bank and the
interest is
being rolled over with the principal
sum at the end of each year. According to our National Law,
at the
expiration of 5 (five) years, the
money will revert to the ownership of the government if
nobody applies
to claim the funds.

Consequently, my proposal is that I would like you to stand
in as the
next of kin to ANN BARBARA MYERS so
that the fruits of this old woman labour will not get into
the hands of
some corrupt government officials.
This is simple, I will like you to provide immediately your
full name,
address brief profile of you including
your tel and fax numbers so that an Attorney will prepare
the necessary
documents and affidavits which
will put you in place as the next of kin. We shall employ
the service
of an accredited Attorney for the
drafting and notarization of the WILL and to obtain the
necessary
document s and the of
probate/administration in your favour for the transfer. A
bank account
in any part of the world which you will provide will then
facilitate
the transfer of this money to you as the ben ef iciary/next
of kin. The
money will be paid into your account for us to share in the
ration of
60%
for me and 40% for
you.

There is no risk at all as the paper work for this
transaction will be
done by the Attorney and my position as the branch manager
guarantees
the successful execution of this transaction. If you are
interested,
please reply immediately via email address above. Upon your
response, I
shall then provide with more details and relevant documents
that will
help you to understand the transaction.

Please observe utmost confidentiality, and rest assured
that this
transaction would be most profitable
for both of us because I shall require your assistance to
invest my
share in your country.

Awaitin g your urgent reply .

Please, You not reply through this e-mail you receive this
mail.
Kindly, Send your reply to this following address.
hamze@seeqmail.com.
hamze@buzzlink.com

Best regards,
MR. Hamze Ahmad

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#18 Consumer Comment

THEY DON'T STOP

AUTHOR: Eran - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, August 21, 2004

I Have been contacted numerous times with the same stuff- How do I block them or get rid of them from harrasing me??

Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:52:48 +0200
From: hamze@tiscali.co.uk Add to Address Book
Subject: BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP

STRICTLY FOR CONFIDENTIAL

BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP

FROM THE DESK OF:Mr, Hamze Ahma

GOOD DAY,

This Letter might come as a surprise to you, especially since we have never met or discussed before. Basically, the message might sound strange, but it is in fact, very real. If only you care to know. The truth is that I should have
notified you first through a more confidential means even if it is at least to respect your integrity, please accept my humble apologies if I had caught you unawares. I frankly do not mean any harm in passing my goodwill message.

I am Hamze Ahmad K.S.M, Bank Manager, Long Term Fixed Deposit
Dept, of Safe Trust Ban k ,Lagos, Nigeria. I have urgent
and very
confidential business proposition for you.

On June 6, 1999, An American mining consultant/contractor
with the
National Mining Corporation, ANN BARBARA MYERS made a
numbered ti me
(fixed)
Deposit for twelve (12) calendar months, valued at
US$25,000,000.00(TWENTY-FIVE MILLION US DOLLARS)in my
branch. Upon
maturity, I sent a
routine notification to her forwarding address but got no
reply. After
a
month, we sent a reminder and finally we discovered from
her contract
employers, the National mining corporation that ANN BARBARA
MYERS died
from
an automobile accident. On further investigation, I found
out that she
died without making a (WILL) and all attempts to trace her
next of kin
was fruitless.

I therefore made further investigation and discovered that
ANN BARBARA
MYERS did not declare
any kin or relation in her official documents, including
her Bank
deposit paper work in my Bank. This
sum US$25,000.000.00 is still sitting in my Bank and the
interest is
being rolled over with the principal
sum at the end of each year. According to our National Law,
at the
expiration of 5 (five) years, the
money will revert to the ownership of the government if
nobody applies
to claim the funds.

Consequently, my proposal is that I would like you to stand
in as the
next of kin to ANN BARBARA MYERS so
that the fruits of this old woman labour will not get into
the hands of
some corrupt government officials.
This is simple, I will like you to provide immediately your
full name,
address brief profile of you including
your tel and fax numbers so that an Attorney will prepare
the necessary
documents and affidavits which
will put you in place as the next of kin. We shall employ
the service
of an accredited Attorney for the
drafting and notarization of the WILL and to obtain the
necessary
document s and the of
probate/administration in your favour for the transfer. A
bank account
in any part of the world which you will provide will then
facilitate
the transfer of this money to you as the ben ef iciary/next
of kin. The
money will be paid into your account for us to share in the
ration of
60%
for me and 40% for
you.

There is no risk at all as the paper work for this
transaction will be
done by the Attorney and my position as the branch manager
guarantees
the successful execution of this transaction. If you are
interested,
please reply immediately via email address above. Upon your
response, I
shall then provide with more details and relevant documents
that will
help you to understand the transaction.

Please observe utmost confidentiality, and rest assured
that this
transaction would be most profitable
for both of us because I shall require your assistance to
invest my
share in your country.

Awaitin g your urgent reply .

Please, You not reply through this e-mail you receive this
mail.
Kindly, Send your reply to this following address.
hamze@seeqmail.com.
hamze@buzzlink.com

Best regards,
MR. Hamze Ahmad

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#17 Consumer Comment

THEY DON'T STOP

AUTHOR: Eran - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, August 21, 2004

I Have been contacted numerous times with the same stuff- How do I block them or get rid of them from harrasing me??

Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:52:48 +0200
From: hamze@tiscali.co.uk Add to Address Book
Subject: BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP

STRICTLY FOR CONFIDENTIAL

BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP

FROM THE DESK OF:Mr, Hamze Ahma

GOOD DAY,

This Letter might come as a surprise to you, especially since we have never met or discussed before. Basically, the message might sound strange, but it is in fact, very real. If only you care to know. The truth is that I should have
notified you first through a more confidential means even if it is at least to respect your integrity, please accept my humble apologies if I had caught you unawares. I frankly do not mean any harm in passing my goodwill message.

I am Hamze Ahmad K.S.M, Bank Manager, Long Term Fixed Deposit
Dept, of Safe Trust Ban k ,Lagos, Nigeria. I have urgent
and very
confidential business proposition for you.

On June 6, 1999, An American mining consultant/contractor
with the
National Mining Corporation, ANN BARBARA MYERS made a
numbered ti me
(fixed)
Deposit for twelve (12) calendar months, valued at
US$25,000,000.00(TWENTY-FIVE MILLION US DOLLARS)in my
branch. Upon
maturity, I sent a
routine notification to her forwarding address but got no
reply. After
a
month, we sent a reminder and finally we discovered from
her contract
employers, the National mining corporation that ANN BARBARA
MYERS died
from
an automobile accident. On further investigation, I found
out that she
died without making a (WILL) and all attempts to trace her
next of kin
was fruitless.

I therefore made further investigation and discovered that
ANN BARBARA
MYERS did not declare
any kin or relation in her official documents, including
her Bank
deposit paper work in my Bank. This
sum US$25,000.000.00 is still sitting in my Bank and the
interest is
being rolled over with the principal
sum at the end of each year. According to our National Law,
at the
expiration of 5 (five) years, the
money will revert to the ownership of the government if
nobody applies
to claim the funds.

Consequently, my proposal is that I would like you to stand
in as the
next of kin to ANN BARBARA MYERS so
that the fruits of this old woman labour will not get into
the hands of
some corrupt government officials.
This is simple, I will like you to provide immediately your
full name,
address brief profile of you including
your tel and fax numbers so that an Attorney will prepare
the necessary
documents and affidavits which
will put you in place as the next of kin. We shall employ
the service
of an accredited Attorney for the
drafting and notarization of the WILL and to obtain the
necessary
document s and the of
probate/administration in your favour for the transfer. A
bank account
in any part of the world which you will provide will then
facilitate
the transfer of this money to you as the ben ef iciary/next
of kin. The
money will be paid into your account for us to share in the
ration of
60%
for me and 40% for
you.

There is no risk at all as the paper work for this
transaction will be
done by the Attorney and my position as the branch manager
guarantees
the successful execution of this transaction. If you are
interested,
please reply immediately via email address above. Upon your
response, I
shall then provide with more details and relevant documents
that will
help you to understand the transaction.

Please observe utmost confidentiality, and rest assured
that this
transaction would be most profitable
for both of us because I shall require your assistance to
invest my
share in your country.

Awaitin g your urgent reply .

Please, You not reply through this e-mail you receive this
mail.
Kindly, Send your reply to this following address.
hamze@seeqmail.com.
hamze@buzzlink.com

Best regards,
MR. Hamze Ahmad

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#16 UPDATE Employee

turday fire you

AUTHOR: WILLIAM - (Nigeria)

POSTED: Saturday, August 07, 2004

MR MAN, YOU ARE DESTROYING OUR BIZ, A LADY IS SUPOSE TO PAY ME $58,000.00 FOR ATTORNEY CHARGE JUST SENT HIM SITE AFTER TWO DAY.
WHY ALL THIS? LET DO OIL BIZ.

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#15 UPDATE Employee

turday fire you

AUTHOR: WILLIAM - (Nigeria)

POSTED: Saturday, August 07, 2004

MR MAN, YOU ARE DESTROYING OUR BIZ, A LADY IS SUPOSE TO PAY ME $58,000.00 FOR ATTORNEY CHARGE JUST SENT HIM SITE AFTER TWO DAY.
WHY ALL THIS? LET DO OIL BIZ.

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#14 UPDATE Employee

turday fire you

AUTHOR: WILLIAM - (Nigeria)

POSTED: Saturday, August 07, 2004

MR MAN, YOU ARE DESTROYING OUR BIZ, A LADY IS SUPOSE TO PAY ME $58,000.00 FOR ATTORNEY CHARGE JUST SENT HIM SITE AFTER TWO DAY.
WHY ALL THIS? LET DO OIL BIZ.

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#13 UPDATE Employee

turday fire you

AUTHOR: WILLIAM - (Nigeria)

POSTED: Saturday, August 07, 2004

MR MAN, YOU ARE DESTROYING OUR BIZ, A LADY IS SUPOSE TO PAY ME $58,000.00 FOR ATTORNEY CHARGE JUST SENT HIM SITE AFTER TWO DAY.
WHY ALL THIS? LET DO OIL BIZ.

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#12 Consumer Comment

OF USE TO THE SOCIETY

AUTHOR: Williams - (Nigeria)

POSTED: Thursday, August 05, 2004

I do not have much to say, but i really want to be of good help to the society.I know these people( scammers) and i want to expose them. Contact me to furnish you with details at [DELETED]. [Place your comments below and be sure to include your FULL contact information so Rip-off Report can contact you.]

This is the most decent thing i have ever done, lets join hands together to make our society a better place to live.

Thank you
Williams Ikpe

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#11 Consumer Comment

Rip Off Report Saves Day Thank You, Rip-off Report!

AUTHOR: Jamie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, August 02, 2004

My 21 yeard old sister and I received the same e-mail regarding a dead relative who worked for Shell Petroleum in Nigeria that had passed leaving us a substanial amount of money. We were both intrigued and continued correspondace with the "barrister". I decided to coninue my research only to find the "Rip-Off Report". Thank goodness I typed in the correct combination into the search engine otherwise I would be out a signifigant amount of money myself. This information should be made more accesable to people.
I'm thankful for this report and so is my sister.

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#10 Consumer Suggestion

I STOPPED THEM IN THIER TRACKS

AUTHOR: S - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 08, 2004

I also had (note had) been getting several of these emails a week. I decided to play along a little. I told them I did not have access to a fax machine so they would have to email me the paper work.In my case the paper work they sent said the deceased was my brother. I emailed back explaining the last name was my married name not my given name therefore the deceased couldn't possibly be my "brother". I was assure it would be fine. My response was "Let me forward this to with my brother-in-law at the FBI and see what he thinks"

I gave them NO INFORMATION about myself except this was not the last name I was born with.
I haven't heard another word and haven't received another email from any other simaliar scam either either.

It would appear the words FBI seemed to bother them. I also forwarded the emails to Federal Trade Commission.

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#9 Consumer Comment

get rid of the scam bugs

AUTHOR: William - (Philippines)

POSTED: Thursday, May 06, 2004

I have been receiving e-mails from this guy named Federick Johnson(Manager of the foreign Exchange Control dept.)and he even called me at my residence and told me that I can get the money as soon as possible after i pay for the amount of US$2,820.00 for the processing fee. he even fax me, the content of the fax was that the remitance of the funds to my bank acount will take place on or before Tuesday next week as soon as they receive the requirements or the payment of the processing fee. and enclosed with the telegraphic transfer form. And it should be send via Western Union money transfer in the name of Williams Onuoha.

I hope this won't happen again and I hope that this is not a scam for I am only a peasant here in our country. Thanks

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#8 REBUTTAL Individual responds

swindlers on the web

AUTHOR: Susana - (Panama)

POSTED: Monday, March 29, 2004

I have been contacted from december, 2003 by some man named Clifford, and after barister, in january one with the name Smith and today some doctor phillips, and I am really tired of it, stating the same thing that some relative had died in some car crash and they are looking for the next kin. At first I was very confused but the thing that got me surprised was when they ask me to send $9.500.00 by western union to suposely released the funds. They stated that the money was sent to Canada by diplomatic courier. It is really amazing how these person played with people peace, and try to rab innocent people with thi spack of lies.

I recommend this bank to seek them and put them in yale because I am tired to be receiving these letters.

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#7 REBUTTAL Individual responds

swindlers on the web

AUTHOR: Susana - (Panama)

POSTED: Monday, March 29, 2004

I have been contacted from december, 2003 by some man named Clifford, and after barister, in january one with the name Smith and today some doctor phillips, and I am really tired of it, stating the same thing that some relative had died in some car crash and they are looking for the next kin. At first I was very confused but the thing that got me surprised was when they ask me to send $9.500.00 by western union to suposely released the funds. They stated that the money was sent to Canada by diplomatic courier. It is really amazing how these person played with people peace, and try to rab innocent people with thi spack of lies.

I recommend this bank to seek them and put them in yale because I am tired to be receiving these letters.

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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

swindlers on the web

AUTHOR: Susana - (Panama)

POSTED: Monday, March 29, 2004

I have been contacted from december, 2003 by some man named Clifford, and after barister, in january one with the name Smith and today some doctor phillips, and I am really tired of it, stating the same thing that some relative had died in some car crash and they are looking for the next kin. At first I was very confused but the thing that got me surprised was when they ask me to send $9.500.00 by western union to suposely released the funds. They stated that the money was sent to Canada by diplomatic courier. It is really amazing how these person played with people peace, and try to rab innocent people with thi spack of lies.

I recommend this bank to seek them and put them in yale because I am tired to be receiving these letters.

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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

swindlers on the web

AUTHOR: Susana - (Panama)

POSTED: Monday, March 29, 2004

I have been contacted from december, 2003 by some man named Clifford, and after barister, in january one with the name Smith and today some doctor phillips, and I am really tired of it, stating the same thing that some relative had died in some car crash and they are looking for the next kin. At first I was very confused but the thing that got me surprised was when they ask me to send $9.500.00 by western union to suposely released the funds. They stated that the money was sent to Canada by diplomatic courier. It is really amazing how these person played with people peace, and try to rab innocent people with thi spack of lies.

I recommend this bank to seek them and put them in yale because I am tired to be receiving these letters.

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#4 Consumer Comment

Rip offs in the US

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, March 25, 2004

I have been receiving emails regarding a next of kin with a substantial amount of money left behind after his death. I have confronted the individuals as well as copy and pasted the scam articles in the emails I send back. They constantly reassure me that it is not a scam and the money will be sent within seven days of receiving my money. They have provided me with an account number, a western union name to transfer to: Mr. George Owen who is the personal secretary for Dr. Joe Duru of the Union Bank of n*g. PLC. The attorney assigned to the legalities is:Felix Kalu and everything is always suppose to be kept confidential to avoid any problems. Unfortunately he slipped up one day and emailed me with someone elses name in the email. We need to let people know in the US that these people are getting our information somehow and we need to stop them!!! Please let me know if you have any solutions.

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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

UNION BANK OF NIGERIA IS NOT THE REAL SCAMER

AUTHOR: FELIX - (Australia)

POSTED: Sunday, February 29, 2004

Please be guided that Union Bank Of Nigeria PLC is a responsible bank. I worked in this bank for 10 years.

Some stupid individuals may be using the name of the bank as any other name could have been used, for their nefarious activities.

We will find out from here in Australia to let you know who these people are and post that information for the authorities in the US to go after them.

It is understandable that the millions of unsuspecting people have been receiving those bogus e-mails in the US would not know any better as they have no knowledge of this bank and especially Nigeria.

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#2 Consumer Suggestion

This is one of the oldest scams in the book.

AUTHOR: Johanna - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, June 19, 2003

I firsst saw this scam about 10 years ago. They used to just mail this crap out. The mailers I saw were addressed to the doctors I worked for. (Doctors have lots of money) They'd give the same story or even revise it a little & tell you how they had to hide some money and they need you to open an account to share. Pfft, its a bunch of hooey. Thanks to the internet they can just spam you to death with their scams.

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

I `am Vasily Nikulin from in Russia.

AUTHOR: Vasily Nikulin - (Russian Federation)

POSTED: Saturday, June 14, 2003

Hello!
I `am Vasily Nikulin from in Russia.
I have received news about death of my relative in Nigeria Mr. Alber W. Nikulin and his(its) families two years back. According to it(him) personal attorney Mr. Ferdinand Amalli the deceased still has significant condition. As far as true this information, whether corresponds(meets) it to the validity? Whether it is possible(probable) repatriating the money and property left behind And translation of the given money into my bank account in Russia as I am his(its) unique relative?
Best Regards,

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