Report: #73734

Complaint Review: US National Martial Arts Team - Alliance Jim Thomas

  • Submitted: Tue, December 02, 2003
  • Updated: Tue, June 12, 2012
  • Reported By: Delafield Wisconsin
  • US National Martial Arts Team - Alliance Jim Thomas
    PO Box 335
    Centerville, Indiana

US National Martial Arts Team Alliance & Sidekick Travel Jim Thomas Fraud Misreprenstation Centerville Indiana

*Consumer Comment: Wrong Person

*Consumer Comment: Dr. Jim Thomas 100% Con Artist

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Bekins Movers Vanlines

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My husband has been doing Martial Arts for over 20 years and competing in various Martial Art tournaments thru out the United States. In 2002 we receive a packet from the above organization stating that he had been appointed to the United States Martial Arts Team. That he could participate in the United States National Martial Arts Team World Cup Tournament in Cancun Mexico in January of 2003. The top four competitors would then advance to Athens Greece in 2004 to represent the USA during an open Karate competition to be held as an opening event to the 2004 Summer Olympic Games to be held in Athens Greece.

We thought this sounds to good to be true so we went on the Internet and checked out the Better Busienss Buerau and found nothing. So we decided to go thru with it. We scraped up the money and went. We thought that this would be a once in a lifetime opportunity for my husband and a dream to participate in the Olympics. So we went to the compition and my husband finished in the top four. We were excited he is going to the Summer Olympics we told friends and family. We have gone to many tournaments and never received your metals but we were told in Cancun that customs was holding the metals and Mr Thomas was working on getting them to us before we left for the US. We never received the metals before we left.

When we returned home we did not hear anything from Mr. Thomas or even the metals months went by nothing finally my husband contacted Mr. Thomas and he said that he would mail them nothing.

After my husband had talked to Mr. Thomas he had a bad feeling so I E Mail the Olympic Commitee and asked them if they knew anything about this, they said no. Then we received a packet from Mr. Thomas and it was for Greece Athens but it was going to be held at the end of March 2004 and it is a World Tournament. It has nothing to do with the Olympics.

My husband contact Mr. Thomas and asked him and he said that he never said that this had to do with the Olympics. But we have the documentation that he sent us Stating this. We had contact other people who had patricipated in this Cancun tournament and they told us that they want nothing to do with him either. Also, we found out that he never order the Metals for the tournament that he made that up about the metals were held up in customs. When we signed up for this trip we had to go thru SideKick Travel that is affiliated with Mr. Thomas.

I beleive that is fraud and misrepsentation and we have been Embrassed to tell our friends and co workers that were taken by this conartist. I hope someone can help us get our money back and put this organiztion out of business.

Delafield, Wisconsin
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#1 Consumer Comment

Wrong Person

AUTHOR: Kid Peligro - (USA)

The people complaining about the US National Martial Arts Alliance and Jim Thomas are targetting the wrong person. Jim Thomas did not have anything to do with the Sidekick travel company, Jim Towns was the person responsible for Sidekick Travel. Jim Thomas was in charge of running the tournaments.

I have been a member of the US Martial Arts now for over a year and have never had any issues with travels to Cancun or misrepresentations. This is a nation wide organization that promotes unity within the martial arts without politics. We have members in just about every state of the union. If you want to look us up please do at see how many members we have and what we are really about.

People should be more cautios when making accusations.



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#2 Consumer Comment

Dr. Jim Thomas 100% Con Artist

AUTHOR: Hogpaynter - (U.S.A.)

You are 100% correct about Jim Thomas a Con Man.  I am surprised he is still alive.  In the 90's he had a Karate dojo in Auburn, WA.  He ran it about 3yrs then disappeared overnight.  At the time he left he was holding toughman contests.  He had sold about 500+ tickets at $10-$15 each.  He spit before the constest was to be held.  I remember being at the dojo and people coming in looking for him. 

He also made up a story about having cancer and took sick to hold class.  He walked out on his wife and child which was only about 1yr old at the time.  Can't believe this spinless  b**tard has the balls to even show his face again.  He also claimed to be on the US olympic team with Billy Blanks and Tokey Hill.  Probably all a bunch BS also.  What is with the Dr. title.  This guy is a Joke and always will be.  If you have to deal with him, watch your back.
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#3 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Bekins Movers Vanlines

AUTHOR: John R & Christa R Deutsch - (U.S.A.)

Bekins moved us from California to Florida.

The estimate was $ 6,773.41,

since our belongings did not fit in the truck,

they decided to move it in two shipment's.

The second truck which was a local truck came at 09:00 PM, finished packing by 01:00 AM.

Bekins deny'sthis could't been a local truck.
We have witnesses.

The first shipment arrived on May 05. 04,second arrived on May 14. 04, with some items missing.

So they charged us $ 5.345.30 for the first shipment which we all ready paid by credit card and 3,375.93 for the second shipment, which we refuse to pay, but the merchant Bekins doesn't even return the phonecalls.

That's way over the amount of the estimate.

Also on the bill was a charge for $ 1,153.92
for gasoline.

We are willing to pay the different of $1,744.47.
Pleas help us to solve this, we belive this is the biggest Ripoff.

If Bekins under estimate that's not our fault.

Can you do anything about this?
Thank you Kindly,
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