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Complaint Review: Vault Payment Solutions - Portland Oregon

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  • Vault Payment Solutions 1515 SW 5th Ave Portland, Oregon U.S.A.

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I may of 2008 I acquired new credit card processing equipment thru Vault Payment Solutions with a 48 month lease through Lease Finance Group. At that time, I had a lease with lease Finance Group for older equipment. Vault Payment Solutions agreed to pay off the old lease when the new lease was signed. They never have paid. I continued to pay on the old lease. Despite numerous calls to Vault Payment Solutions. Finally after talking several times to Ryan Sauvageau and being continually promised that the old lease would be paid off...nothing happened. Mr. Sauvageau even called around the 1st of October to tell me that a check had been mailed but apparently it never arrived, got lost or perhaps vanished into thin air. He then called on the 4th of October and said that another check had been sent on the 3rd of October. Here it is the 7th and still no check. Mail service to and from Portland, OR to Medford, OR is never more than one or two days. I called Ryan on the 5th and left a message saying I had not recieved the check. Once again, there was no return call. I have filed a complaint with the BBB along with sending complaints to the Merchant Services company and also to Lease Finance Group. We're not talking abou a huge sum of money here...they owe me about $240 and they promised me to pay Lease Finance Group the balnce due on th old lease which in only about $180. I wonder how much complaining they might do if I owed them money and never paid! Word t the wise...Vault has got to have the worst customer service I have ever encountered. I'll be glad to be done with them. And...if it comes to a small claims court then so be it!

Andy
Medford, Oregon
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 11/07/2008 04:33 PM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/vault-payment-solutions/portland-oregon-97201/vault-payment-solutions-company-agreed-to-pay-off-old-lease-when-new-lease-was-acquired-n-389033. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content

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#5 Consumer Suggestion

dont let any merchant services pay off your Current lease,because they will put you on new lease......

AUTHOR: Helper - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, December 14, 2008

Hi
My name is Hassan I'm an ISO, I own Merchant Services Company Express MPS Group partner with Digital Financial Group one of the best company Sponsored by wells Fargo and First Data.

WOW I'm sorry you got Ripped off, by these guys.

Do not sign a terminal lease if it's more than $30 a month. AND DON'T BUY A FREE CREDIT CARD MACHINE.BECAUSE IT'S A RIP OFF.

Dont let any merchant services pay off your Current lease,because they will put you on new lease,and that you will be paying more

Read the contract very closely and keep a copy of it and tell the agent to wait for TOW days or comeback within TWO day so you have time to read the contract and look up their company @ www.ripoffreport.com

when you decided to sign with them make sure you get your contract copy right a way. (it Means) go to the copy machine and make your own copy of the contract you signed.

WE ALL LEARNED FROM OUR MISTAKES


This is some Consumer Guide on Merchant Services to help you choose your merchant service provider wisely.

Merchant Services: Beware of Marketing Ploys
Like any other business field, merchant service providers have their own jargon, inside information, heroes and villains. There are honest companies and those willing to say just about anything to close a sale.

This is Consumer Guide on Merchant Services to help you choose your merchant service provider wisely.
Don't Be Fooled By Marketing Tricks.
In the field of merchant services, there are many price variables that can be manipulated to fool a customer into believing they are paying the lowest price, but in fact they are not.

The merchant services industry is advertising a low discount rate. The discount rate can be temporarily manipulated through "introductory" offers which quickly expire. This is the rate that a merchant pays for a swiped card transaction, usually between 1.69% and 2.69% depending on credit, volume, product type and risk factors.
Below are some marketing techniques and issues to be educated on.

1) "Merchant Accounts 1.09% 1.39% 1.59% and 1.64%!" When you see such an ad, click through and try to find the rate guaranteed and watch out when you see (guaranteed**) anywhere on the merchant services website. See if you can even find it ever mentioned again! Some advertising might grand-stand lower rates that are only given to extremely high volume customers. Once you have invested time into the application process, a savvy high pressure closer will explain with great charm and detail why your final rate wasn't as good as the one given to say, "A world wide fast food chain" but was still a great deal considering your risk factors.

2) "Free Merchant Account?" What does this mean!? The merchant account provider must charge a discount rate and per item transaction fee. Does that sound free? A free set-up fee can easily be exchanged with an "annual fee" or some other kind of hidden charge.
3) Hidden Charges: Another "switch" is simply substituting hidden charges that you won't discover until after you get your first bill.


STEPS
1-Customer Service... Ask your sales agent what you can expect when you call their office for support. Who will answer the phone? Do they have one of those annoying automated system that takes you into a black hole, or do they have a live human answering the phone? What are the hours of operation? If you speak another language, do they have a translation service? If you have an emergency, is there a 24 hour telephone number?
2- Rate...You should not base your decision solely on price. Be weary of those that are offering extremely low rates. They may be padding the back end with additional fees. Qualified and non-qualified rates are determined by Visa/MasterCard. Look at their websites to determine what these credit card companies are charging your processor to run Visa/MasterCard transactions. If the rate is lower than this "set" rate, be cautious. Remember that your processor is a business, with expenses and employees to pay.

3 -Funding...How long will it take for your e-funds (funds from credit, debit, and e-checks) to be deposited into your bank account? The deposit or funding time is different with each processor. If your business needs daily cash flow to pay employees funding time could be very important to you. Processors fund anywhere from 24 hours to several days to even weeks.

4-Experience...How many years has the processor been in business? This can prove to be very important when a problem arises with your account or your equipment. Ensure they have the know-how to get things resolved, and fast!

5- Equipment...Long gone are the days of having to purchase costly equipment, or get stuck in a long lease. Leading processors are offering free equipment with new, approved merchant accounts. Understand that this is a free terminal placement while you are a current client of the processor. If you terminate the agreement, for any reason, you must return the equipment. Be cautious about processors who push new, costly, equipment. Unless you current equipment is not PCI compliant or network compliant, you should not have to upgrade.
Do not sign a terminal lease if it's more than $30 a month
If you have a lease and it's the end of the lease TERM make sure you call the lease company to cancel your lease, because IF YOU DON'T CALL THEM they will continue charging you.
6- Contract Term... Know if there is a contract term. If there is a contract term and you want to cancel the contract in the future what is the fee. Are there certain exceptions to this early-cancellation fee?

TIP...
Be honest with your processor about your business type,
How much you process and the average ticket amount. Don't claim a $20.00 average ticket amount when your average ticket is around $200.00. This may see like a good idea to qualify for a "lower" rate but what will undoubtly happen is. After you run a few "abnormal" transactions, a red flag will go up at the risk department. They are looking for fraud. If your account has abnormal activity that might be fraudulent, they will freeze your account to minimize their exposure. Your account will be held until an investigation is completed. This can take months. Be honest and up front with your credit card processor to eliminate this hassle all together.

WARNING
Ask Questions. Be studious. Look at all contracts, really all the lines. Your processor can't realistically go over everything. It is your job to look the contract over and ask any questions you might have. Be weary of processors who are quick to get your signed without addressing all of your concerns.


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#4 Author of original report

What a fiasco!!

AUTHOR: Andy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 09, 2008

Vault Payment Solutions has stated that they will now pay me what they have promised for almos three months. And then they deduct $700 from my ban account for what they say is "Early Termination Fee". Yet they cannot provide me wit signed contracts despite the fact that the salesman thatd came into my store assured me that my contractr was a dmonth to month contract. What a bunch of sleeze bags. I will contyinut to post all ove the net as much as I can about their shady practices. I wonder how th owner wopuld feel if thius was happening to them! I have filled a complaint with the FTC as well as forwarding copies of all emails as well as recorded conversations I have had with them and their rep Ryan Savaeuagueau. This is just plain wrong!! Do not do business with this company!!! They have no concern with the customer!!!!

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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Misunderstanding, payoff checks have already been sent and cashed

AUTHOR: Vault Payment Solutions - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, November 21, 2008

Mr. Andrew Tillinghast-
I am truly sorry for the misunderstanding with the payoff of your previous lease. As said before it is required that merchants provide us the proper payoff information. We received the proper payoff from you on October 21, 2008. Once we received the fax copy of payoff, check number 4307 was cut October 21, 2008 for $182.72 and mailed to Lease Finance Group at PO BOX 2410 Sioux Falls, SD 57101-2410. Sounds like the confusion is the fact that you were expecting a check, however the checks are mailed directly to the leasing companies.
When you first filed your complaint with the BBB that alerted us to check the status of check 4307, since it had not cleared we put a stop payment on this check and re-issued check number 4523 on November 3, 2008 for $182.72 and mailed it to Lease Finance Group. This check cleared our account on November 12, 2008. If you need a copy of the cleared check that was sent to LFG, I would be more than happy to provide this.
Any refund requested for payments of your old lease requires bank statements to prove the payment amount taken from your account. We are not disputing that a refund is owed. But we have requirements to fulfill to be able to have checks mailed out.
To receive the refund for the payments made of your old lease we just require you to fax the bank statements showing the payment amount (be sure to black out the account number). Our fax number is 503-296-2783.
I am sorry for the miscommunication on what is needed to finalize payoffs and refunds. I look forward to clearing up this matter quickly. Thank you.

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#2 Author of original report

Filed comp-laint with the BBB...

AUTHOR: Andy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, November 15, 2008

I filed a complaint with the BBB about Vault and them not paying me. They responded saying they had paid me and that the "problem" was solved in a friendly matter. I never recieved any money from them despite them saying they had. You can read the complaint and their response here:

http://alaskaoregonwesternwashington.app.bbb.org/complaint/view/22179787/c/mqwhh6

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#1 Consumer Comment

Vault Payment Solutions is one of Many...

AUTHOR: Robin - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Hi Andy, glad you reported Vault. I hope if anyone else has had any issues with them they will report them too. I am about to launch a huge campaign to stop these companies from ripping businesses off. I will keep you posted. Robin

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