Vinitti , make2much.com Jacob Clement Ridiculous Ripped us off, no guarantee fulfilled Provo Utah

I have no idea why you posted that FTC link Anthony but I did a search on the FTC site and there is no mention of the Viniti name at all. I have been contacted by Jacob a time or two regarding his system. I have chosen not to opt in because I don't enter into anything blindly anymore. I need to know that there is some substance to this system to make money in other ways that just promoting his system. If that's all there is to this system then I don't want to have anything to do with it. I need to know that it is an ethical business venture or I will not participate.

Here is what I do know about the company. Jacob is the registered owner of the company. It is an LLC registered in Utah. It has a total of 8 consumer complaints that have all been resolved satisfactorily. It has a rating of C- due to the BBB doesn't understand the type of business he is conducting. He had a previous business which rated a rating of F. All this information is publicly available on the BBB website.

I looked on the Utah Consumer Protection Buyer Beware List and did not find Viniti there. This doesn't necessarily mean they are legit it just means they haven't been reported or found to be unscrupulous as of this writing.

I am not endorsing this company. I am searching for information on it myself this is why I am here. So far I have found only unsubstantiated claims by disgruntled (customers?) people who have offered no real proof to their claims or that they are or were actual customers of Viniti.

Regards,
RL

I need not offer a thing to this one, except that the man makes so much money and is so legitimate, that he has to operate a business out of a UPS drop box, and forward calls to cell phones.

It's the tried and true method of operating a scam.

Don't take my word for it. Read it for yourself.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/business/adv/bus36.shtm

This is Jacob Clement, president of Vinitti inc.

Our company if you research it is fully registered in all legal aspects with the state of utah, as shown on the site you are refering to, and yes, our phones are cell phones and hardly prepaid. They are through t-mobile and give us the benefit of being able to anwer our customers and help them no matter what we do during the day.

Beautifull thing is that I can do whatever I want all day long, even travel, and if a member needs my help I am available to help them. Its a home based business and you cant even get the kind of support we offer through most major businesses.

No computer animated crap, just real live people calling you back for a system that works and is real.

So please, do your research and you will find out how real it is!

Google the names and read the reports. There is one site out there that has went to great lengths to expose the fact that phone numbers are unlisted, pre-paid cell phones, or listed in other parts of the country.

Addresses, if listed on sites, are almost always UPS Store drop box locations, and are either listed in the name of someone who's identity has been stolen, or obtained with false ID's.

Unless you just like the idea of supporting someone too lazy to work, use a little common sense. If you're being asked for money up-front for anything at all from a website without you knowing EXACTLY who or what business you are dealing with, then you are going to be ripped-off!!

Google the name of any business to discover the details. Read complaints. Search for complaints on THIS site under their name(s). Do a reverse look-up on any and all phone numbers you see on a website to verify whether or not they are listed. An unlisted number or one in another state from where they claim to be is a certain rip-off in the making. Legitimate businesses ALWAYS list their phone numbers.

Oh...and never assume that if you find NO complaints listed under a business name, that all is okay. Scammers change the names of their businesses frequently. When the heat gets too hot, they relocate to another drop box, change phone numbers or purchase another pre-paid cell phone, sometimes throw up another website, and continue the scam. If all you see is THEIR website when you Google a name, the chances are that the name is very new, and the likelyhood of being ripped-off is almost certain.

Do a Google search of the address. If the street view is available, so much the better. Most scam artists use drop box locations to receive mail and to establish fictitious address locations to post on websites. If all you see is a strip mall, or if the address is not recognized, or is listed at the same address where a UPS Store or a similar business is located, you are VERY likely dealing with a scam artist.

No the Vinitti system is the real deal! It is not a scam. I just started and I already have two sales so far. The training videos you get when you go to the members area are awesome. Jacob always responds to my questions by email. http://www.GetRealCashFast.com

To Your Success,
Danny Connell
Atlanta GA