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Complaint Review: your advantage leads - Internet

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Your Advantage Leads is a ripoff.  The owner makes all kinds of promises and delivers nothing in return.  They claim they have to replace 1 to2% of their leads because they are bad.  What a joke.  I had used them for about 9 months up until  a year ago.  I had to stop using them back then because the leads got so bad they just t became a waste of time and money.

I switched to a different company about a year ago and have had good sucess with their leads.  About 3 months ago YAL (your advantage leads) started contacting me agian trying to get me to give them another try.  After 2 months and NUMEROUS calls from Penny, Sherry and John,  I placed an order for 25 more leads.  With that order they also promised me 8 free leads because I sent them a couple of referrals.   They  assured me if I had complaints about any leads they would replace them.   They also assured me the new leads are much better and all of them are screened by management before they are sent out, which turned out to be a complete and utter lie.  In fact in the very first lead, which was recorded,  you can hear the prospect stating he is in a wheel chair and had a leg amputated 3 years ago and is scheduled to have the other leg cut off next week.  The reason I bring this up is because it is one of the 4 or 5 qualifying questions they ask.  Are you in a nursing home, hospital or a wheel chair.  When he stated yes the telemarketer asked why and he told her,  yet they still try and pass it on as a good lead.

All told in the origional batch of 25,  I had 4 or 5 people who refused to answer the banking question, which is another of their qualifying questons.  Another three or 4 people were so senile they couldn't answer basic questions like their name address or age.  Good luck geting them apporoved!!!

These people make all kinds of promises but do not deliver.  Not only did they not replace the bad leads that didn't fit their own criteria, they never even gave me the 8 free ones I was supposed to receive.

  If you like your leads to come in a week or two late and so senile you will never get them approved, give them a try; because that is what your going to get most of the time.  John is all talk and no show.  If he were an insurance agent he would be Weak, Weak Weak.  He sells orders by lieing through his teeth, period. 

And  one more thing.  They require you to pay them via check because they get so many agents getting money refunded by thier credit card companies and paypal because they just can't deliver the goods.  AVOID THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE.

If YAL had to pay chargebacks,  They would be BROKE, period.

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#5 Author of original report

play the leads if they are so great and end this

AUTHOR: mpit - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, September 04, 2011

MIchelle in all honesty you sound about as bright as most of your telemarfeters.  Many of them can barely speak english.  You can end this debate right no by just playing the leads you sent me so all agents can hear the leads and make their own determination on wheter or not they will want to buy leads from your company in the future.  Ten of the 25 leads did not meet your own self imposed criteria and should have been repalced as you like to state that you HAPPILY DO.

Put up or shut up.  I stated I think your leads suck and you state they are the best.  My claim is also backed by over 30 other prior complaints about your company.  It's not like I am the lone wolf here.

PLAY THE LEADS

THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING

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#4 Author of original report

habitual liars

AUTHOR: mpit - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, September 03, 2011

Michelle I am starting to believe your whole company basicly John. Sherry and you are all habitual liars.  We al know your company wont startan order until you have the money in your grubby little hands.  On another post you are now sating I never paid fror them.  I paid via paypal for the entire order and that fact can easily be proven so stop the lies.  In fact put and end to all my bashing of your compnay by playing the leads you sold me all 25 of them.  If that is too much work for you I will send you the names of ten and  Play them for all to hear.  Let them decide if you replace your leads or not and let them decide if you screen every lead before you send them.  You say you replace 2 to 2%.  That maybe so but according to my last batch you should have replace 35 to 40%. 

PLAY THE TAPES .  I CLAIM YOUR A BUNCH OF LIARERS AS DO SO MANY OTHERS.  PLAY THE TAPES AND SHUT UP.  PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.   YOUR ALL TALK AND JOHN IS MISSING IN ACTION.  PLAY THE TAPES FOR ALL TO HEAR.

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#3 Author of original report

sold off?

AUTHOR: mpit - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, September 02, 2011

What does sold off mean.  I paid you via paypal for the batch of 25 leads at $17.00 apiece.  YOu owe me for the bougs leads you never replaced plus the fee 8 ones you ofered me for a referral from a year ago.  I guess thats about right you pay a debt a year later.

I got an idea you have the rescources to play the leads fro everyone to her.  YOu say you have a 1 to 2% rep;acement ration.  Let me pick ten leads from the order and you post them here for all to hear.  That otta shut you up. If your leads are so good prove it.

I PICK TEN LEADS OUT OF 25 AND YOU PLAY THEM.  THE PROOD IS IN THE PUDDING. 

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#2 Author of original report

I will play your leads for you

AUTHOR: mpit - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, September 02, 2011

I have the whole 25 leads from your company MIchelle.  If I played them most agents would want to replace 8 to ten.  they were horrible leads missing and wrong names 4 or 5 wer obviousoly senile and 4 or 5 refused to answer your banking wuestion which according to your rules maes them replaceable.  You guys need to get a clue  Your leads suck big time.  Most of them have no interest at all in buying insurance or let alone even considering to talk about it.

Google YAL and read them and weep.  That many people are not wrong.  If you spent half as much time pleasing your customers as making excuses you  might even stay aflost.  You guys are on drugs or just plain slow.  I think you are senile just like so many of your leads.  Keep maing excuses.    Wheres John meeting with the credit card company.  H**l they won't even deal with ya anymore.

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Merrill Pittman

AUTHOR: YALmichelle - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, September 02, 2011

I am having a hard time understanding why Merrill Pittman used us as his lead source for over a year if our leads were so "bad"? Contrary to what Merrill says, every lead is absolutely screened to ensure that it does meet our guaranteed criteria before it is sent to the agent.  If a lead ever accidentally gets sent and does not meet our guaranteed criteria, it would definitely be replaced. Unfortunately, we cannot replace leads because an agent is mad that he could not make a sale with it.

In an email Merrill said "Overcoming objections from retards is easy."(referring to people with Dementia or Alzheimers) I think that shows a high level of insensitivity to mentally challenged people. None of our telemarketers are licensed to diagnose medical or mental problems, and I don't believe Merrill is either. When screening leads, if we ever suspect a prospect might have Dementia or Alzheimer, we do not send them. And we definitely don't refer to them as "retards".

In another email, Merrill told us "Do us all a favor and go shoot yourselves."  I would be willing to bet that the majority of Merrill Pittmans clients know someone who has been affected by Dementia or Alzheimers, or know someone who has experienced the heartache of suicide. They would probably think twice about having an insurance agent who takes these
matters so lightly, and is so unprofessional.

It is my job to service customers. I am a very honest, credible person. If the allegations you are making against Your Advantage Leads were true, I would not be working with them. I stand behind the company I work for and the leads we provide 100%.  You said yourself that you sold 5 policies from your last order. If our leads are so "bad", how is that possible? Also, I am having a hard time understanding why you would issue a charge back for the order you sold 5 policies from? That seems very odd to me, and not something that a reputable business person would do. I guess its okay for you to get paid, but not us after we worked hard to do the job you asked us to do.

Merrill, we both know what this is really about; you are bitter because we are the ones who ended our business relationship with you, due to you always trying to get free leads for bogus reasons.  You claim you are the one who stopped doing business with us, but the both of us know it was the other way around. You are mad because you know for a fact we do indeed provide the best leads, and you will not be able to receive them anymore.

Our lead quality is higher than it has ever been, and our reorder rates are through the roof. That alone speaks for itself. I invite any agent reading this post of yours to call our sales department and have them play a sample of one of our introductions. Since they are all recorded on the front and back, your claims are false and mainly designed to harm our company for no good reason.

Merrill, you sold off the leads and that should be the end of it. Now you should either pay for the leads or stop bashing our company with invalid complaints, because none of the other agents want to hear about your 5 sales off leads you have no intention of paying for.

Hopefully you will be able to find a lead source able to afford a client like you.

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