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Complaint Review: ASG Security

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  • Submitted: Tuesday, September 01, 2009
  • Last Posting: Friday, December 02, 2011
  • Reported By: nicecali — PLANO Texas USA
ASG Security
ASGSECURITY.COM Internet United States of America

ASG Security - ASGSECURITY.COM The sales rep deceited by putting me in 3 year contract with autorenewal (which was never discussed or mentioned), no information is ever sent in the last 4 + years. Unable to get out of contract Internet

*Consumer Comment: Not accurate about allowing releases, even if there was no upfront costs.


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Very unfortunately, in June 2005, I have chosen this company as my home security monitoring needs. The sales rep told me that I have to oblige 3years contract and after the initial 3 years, I have to provide 30 days notices to cancel (if I choose to get out of the contract). I have tried to contact several times in the last 1-2 months, to get out of my contract with this company, they are telling me that there is very small words somewhere in the initial contract, that the contract will be renewed automatically without any communication or notice from this great company.

I can't disconnect my home phone to change to VOIP phone also as their security monitoring system doesn't work with anything other than home phone line. Not only I am stuck paying this security company until I get out of their contract for another 1 year, I can't change or disconnect my home phone line (land line) also. I am requesting every customer who sees this rip off report to be aware of this scam and deceitful, sales practice by this company. Please do your research and there are many companies in this kind of similar business who are not as pathetic as this company.

I am going to file a complaint with State attorney General and DPS dept (who oversees this kind of company’s licenses) for their fraud, deceitful, customer unfriendly business practices which are unethical in nature. I request each and every one of the customer to spread word about this company and their deceitful sales practices during their initial contract. I am writing this report to bring customer awareness so that I don't want any of the existing or new customers to fall for their trick and kind of stuck like me. Existing customers - caution advised, please call them to know your annual contract expiration date and cancel 30 days before to move to a different company. I am going to request the state law makers to protect the innocent customers from this kind of fraud, deceitful customer practices by the companies like - ASG Security. I have tried to call them and explain my personal situation, they don’t care any law, they don’t care customers, they don’t care AG, they don’t care DPS, they think they have the right and customers don’t have any right. They won't even send me any document to remind me when my annual contract expires. You have to keep their golden initial contract which was written ages ago as you are stuck like me for ages...

I feel sorry for the existing customers....get out of their contract during your annual renewal so that they can change their deceitful business practices. Their supervisors, managers don’t care about customers either. I spoke to their cancellation dept, they don’t care you, and they care only how to rip off the customers...kind of mentality. New customers - Beware of this company - don’t fall for their sales tricks and stuck with the contract like me...

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#1 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: OnlineAlarmQuotes - Duncanville (United States of America)

Did you read the contract before you signed it? You must not have because you agreed to THEIR terms in June 2005 yet never knew their contract had an automatic renewal provision. You'd also be aware that they had a condition stating it is your responsibility to maintain a functioning land line phone service. 

I spent many years in the security industry, and while I am the first one to defend a customer when they receive shoddy equipment/service I am the last one to agree with the "oh poor me I didn't read what I signed so I shouldn't be responsible" complaint.

For something to qualify as a scam it has to deliver apples when the order promised oranges, or just not deliver at all.

Apparently ASG delivered the security system, and provided monitoring as promised.
Your sudden dislike for the terms and conditions of the contract that YOU signed does not mean ASG is a scam. It means you are willy nilly when contracts are involved and when things don't go your way you blame the other guy. It doesn't sound as if you're being very realistic about what transpired.

Maybe you will learn a lesson and start reading before signing.
Don't sign contracts that you disagree with, and if you do sign a contract don't malign the other party if it's you that doesn't understand the conditions.

Your complaint might cost that company to lose business when they have done nothing wrong.




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#2 Owner of Company

Contractual Term and Auto-Renewal

AUTHOR: Bill Rose, Sr. VP - Beltsville (USA)

In general ASG Security provides new residential installations at either no-cost, or at a greatly reduced installation charge. While the initial term of the monitoring agreement (three-years) includes no additional charge for the discounted installation, it is a critical component of completing the sale “payback” i.e., investment in providing a free or discounted system to the customer. If this initial term in not completed by the customer, ASG Security would actually be losing money, and could therefore not continue to provide a free or nearly free high-quality, commercial grade security system. The “auto-renewal” provision (one-year renewal), which is included in all security company’s agreements is a requirement by the company’s insurance underwriters who provide insurance coverage for the company’s as well as provisions for the customer should something go wrong with regards to the monitoring services provided. We would be willing to release this customer from the current term they are under, but I do not have the ability to contact the customer directly since those details are not available to me via this report.

The customer Agreement meets all Federal and State regulations, and the auto-renewal clause is an acceptable clause, specifically in Texas is allowable under current Texas law. The initial agreement term and auto-renew provision is located in the first pharagraph of the terms and conditions.

ASG does offer alternative monitoring methods whereby a customer does not require a standard phone line, but since this service utilizes the cellular network, there are additional charges for this service. Again, we would be willing to offer a discount if the customer would like to establish this enhanced service.


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#3 Update By Author

Reply to the previous response from VP of the ASG

AUTHOR: nicecali - (USA)

My home was newly built in 2005 and I have paid full money to my builder to install the home security system. ASG just used the same system to monitor. I have specifically asked the sales rep - whether I will get a reminder for my renewal after the 3 years and he said - 'Yes'. I spoke to other security systems companies and I can give you the name of the security company also - they don't have anything like auto renewal of 1 year after 3 years. I have never received any information or notice that my contract is up and auto renewed for another additional 1 year. Any way, please provide me your contact information and I will discuss further as you stated in your reply.


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#4 Consumer Comment

Rose is Wrong

AUTHOR: Barbara - Katy (United States of America)

Don't I *wish* the auto-renew was only for ONE year, as VP Rose states!  My contract states that the agreement is auto-renewed "for periods of two (2) years each."  Did Rose have it wrong or has ASG gotten even greedier and changed their policy since he wrote that?  Hmmmm....

Of course, I missed the 30 day window by about two months, so now I'm stuck with 22 months of a contract for a house I'm about to no longer own.  Yes, they offer you the ability to transfer it to your new home.  Not applicable in my situation.  Yes, they offer that it can be transferred to the new owners.  Give me a break!  Why would the new owners want to assume this crock of a contract?  Especially when they can shop around and get a *much* lower introductory rate from someone else?!

Before using ASG I know other monitoring companies just rolled you to a month-to-month situation once your initial term is up.  Maybe none do that now.  (Have they ALL gotten so greedy?)  In any case, the policy of auto-renewing for TWO years without so much as a letter being sent to you to inform of you that the change is about to occur is just ridiculous.  Like someone is supposed to remember about that three years later!  I have a hard time remembering to take care of certain things three WEEKS later!  Had I received a letter, I guarantee I would've cancelled.  Of course, they make that difficult for you too.  Must be a written letter.

So back to my original question...Did VP Rose get it wrong or has ASG gotten even greedier??


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#5 Employee

Perhaps....

AUTHOR: Jack - Fuquay-Varina (United States of America)

I am an Installer/Service Technician for the company. I am one of the individuals who goes over unsigned agreements with clients at the time of install/service. I go over said documents and point out this is information that should be retained and kept with other vital documents. It is a contract for services you are agreeing to pay for.

I believe if you were to shop around ASG's pricing on services provided within your given region you will find our pricing for products/services are quite competetive within our industry. I am astounded at some of the pricing on monitoring and equipment deals customers have negotiated with sale representatives from our company.

I am one of the faces you would deal with or perhaps have already. I have no personal bone to pick with anyone here; but I must point out that the first rebuttal on this page is pretty concise and to the point. I and my fellow employee's do not look to go out of our way to separate you from your wallets and we go through great lengths to provide you with a positive outlook of our company. With that said... There are situations and circumstances beyond our control that are/were in place before it makes it to our local office levels or your homes. I know my efforts to provide clients with the absolute best service/information I can provide. I even leave my contact information with the clients I have done work for. Not because my company asks me to, because they dont require me to; But because I am the best person qualified within the company to provide clients with technical and operational uses of the systems installed.

There is a technological explosion going on within our industry to combat the VOIP craze that has caused limitations to a select few clients. These are unfortunate isolated incidents not caused BY ASG; but for the wants or needs of clients who in their defense do not know, understand, or made aware of the ramifications of their actions.

I am on the frontline and see the faces listen to the stories. I know what cable companies say, I know how much/or little their own technicians understand their services. If you want security you wont find many providers of our caliber. I would ask you to see all the angles before you pass said judgements.


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#6 Consumer Comment

Not accurate about allowing releases, even if there was no upfront costs.

AUTHOR: Lynne Rudnicki - Boston (United States of America)

I've been trying to cancel contracts which involved no equipment of ASG's. In fact, it is for fire alarm monitoring and service. They purchased another company and now provide horrible service. The company they acquired used 5 year self renewing contracts and ASG wants to be paid in full for termination (even though they don't provide acceptable service). If they can't get life safety done properly I would never trust them with security.

Bill Rose, I challenge you to honor these types of statements. "We would be willing to release this customer from the current term they are under, but I do not have the ability to contact the customer directly since those details are not available to me via this report."

The accounts are for 168 Beacon Street Boston and 168 Marlborough Street Boston.
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