let,s make this very simple, if you order from tv they will put a hold on you account if debt even though they do not tell you, for those of you that use crdeit of course you would not see a charge. i have the money, but the principle of the lie through off. it took 2 days, 7 chat sessions, and i hour on hold with billing to have the money put back in my account. i may try a retailer and buy hte product to give it a shot. i thing i do not get from you guys, why get majic jack and still pay for land line. i do not see you saving money. most land line that i know give you all the features as majic jack. i you call abroad, i guess i could understand. jupiter jack is a rip off too, cannot wait til i get to reveiws