Process-at-home By Angel Stevens, Thrive Learning Institute, Lightwave Builder, Thebizreview.comProcess-at-home By Angel Stevens, Thrive Learning Institute, The Summit Group, Success Training Summit Group- Thrive learning They ask you to leverage other people's money (called OPM method) to ripoff money $9275 Draper Utah

Summit/Thrive Learning/Angel Stevens/Media Learner/MOA/Prosper/Bright Builders - UT - these are all companies aiming to rip people off. You start off with what you think is simple rebate processing - then get countless calls from sales companies like Summit that work for Thrive and others to falsely promise you internet fortunes by presenting a bogus 'learning' system, which when the correct research is done, anyone can do without shelling out thousands of dollars to these 'learning' systems. These sales floors sell these 'coaching' companies where you receive advice from mostly young inexperienced individuals who have no knowledge of online success, but are trained to tell the client that they are very successful.



Angel Stevens does not even exist, the name of the presenter changes periodically. You should not have to pay upfront for any opportunity, period. The worst things is, these Utah based companies, lie and cheat their way into anyone who is willing to listen or has a bad day, and they make it so convincing that they offer a superior way for you to make hundreds of thousands of dollars. There is no miracle program out there that will make you rich overnight.



To add insult to injury, once you get hooked, you cannot cancel, they will make every attempt to stall until the 3 day limit, which they also do not tell you. When you attempt to cancel, you have the pleasure of dealing with inexperienced negotiators, such as Zach from Thrive or Alex from Summit. These have limit knowledge and will try to convince you that this is the only way to go.



This is the latest wave of Utah scams trickling throughout the US. If you want to be safe, stay away from any of these businesses.

Summit/Thrive Learning/Angel Stevens/Media Learner/MOA/Prosper/Bright Builders - UT - these are all companies aiming to rip people off. You start off with what you think is simple rebate processing - then get countless calls from sales companies like Summit that work for Thrive and others to falsely promise you internet fortunes by presenting a bogus 'learning' system, which when the correct research is done, anyone can do without shelling out thousands of dollars to these 'learning' systems. These sales floors sell these 'coaching' companies where you receive advice from mostly young inexperienced individuals who have no knowledge of online success, but are trained to tell the client that they are very successful.



Angel Stevens does not even exist, the name of the presenter changes periodically. You should not have to pay upfront for any opportunity, period. The worst things is, these Utah based companies, lie and cheat their way into anyone who is willing to listen or has a bad day, and they make it so convincing that they offer a superior way for you to make hundreds of thousands of dollars. There is no miracle program out there that will make you rich overnight.



To add insult to injury, once you get hooked, you cannot cancel, they will make every attempt to stall until the 3 day limit, which they also do not tell you. When you attempt to cancel, you have the pleasure of dealing with inexperienced negotiators, such as Zach from Thrive or Alex from Summit. These have limit knowledge and will try to convince you that this is the only way to go.



This is the latest wave of Utah scams trickling throughout the US. If you want to be safe, stay away from any of these businesses.

Yi-ching Lee's relationship with thrive learning began on the 17th of June 2008 when she had a welcome call to initiate her into the training. This call is designed to explain to Ms. Lee how the training works, to understand where her experience is online, and to give her some initial assignments to start making money online.

The notes for that call are as follows.

She has no ebay or business experience. nice lady. Works for a bank currently and wants to make money online.



ASSIGNMENTS:



1- Watch getting started videos on ebay and paypal

2- Watch business entity video

3- setup business

4- Watch top two dropship videos

5- Come up with 5-7 niche ideas

We left a message to follow up with her on June 23 2008 with no return phone call.

The next communication was on June 24 2008 via email. It reads as follows.

Hi Yi-Ching,



These are the webinars that are included with our program. They are very good and can help you tremendously with the program. There are scheduled webinars that cover a variety or topics and you can see the calender on the site. www.thebizreview.com. Also if you ever miss a scheduled webinar they will be archived and you can go back ans watch it at your convenience. We do not assign webinars for you because they are at different time but you are strongly encouraged to watch any that you can. If you have any further questions about the webinars please let us know. Also you username and password for the site are



username:

password:





Dear Team 1 coaches:



I attached below information for a online class assigned to me but I am not aware of any class i sign on in last 2 weeks. Please confirm with me if Thrive assigned me for these class for online business.



Thank you,



Yi-Ching Lee

Hi Yi-Ching,



Cody is out of the office for the day. I looked over his schedule and he is free for 7pm MST on Thursday and I put the appointment in his calender. He will be calling you then. If you have any questions before then please let us know.



I left message to team 1 voice mailbox that I can't make it today's appointment at 7pm your time. Please let me know if this Thursday 7pm is good for you.



Thank you,



Yi-Ching

The next contact was on June 26 2008. The notes for that call are as follows.

She is working on her niche market research. I asked her to do this with her ideas and get back with us.

We called and left 5 messages between the 26th of June 2008 and the 24th of July 2008 with no response.

The next contact was on July 24th 2008. The notes for that call are as follows.

I talked to Yi-Ching She mentioned that she hasn't done any of her assignments because she is not home. I told her that she has made a investment with our company and it's our job to make her successful. So she needs to commit to finding time to work on this. She said that she would.

We then left Ms. Lee 3 messages in the next week with no response. As mentioned in the previous response we are currently working the problem out directly with Ms. Lee.

I am writing to respond to the complaint filed by Y-C. Ms. YC did sign up with Thirve Learning Institute on 6/12/08. She had her first welcome call on 6/17/08 where she was given assignments to complete by the next follow up call. She was in contact with our coaches a few times after that. she then fell off the face of the earth where our coaches tried contacting her to follow up.



I did speak with her on 7/1/08 and she did tell me of the concerns she was having in finding a product to sell. I explained to her that the hardest part in starting the business was the part that she was stuck in at the time which is finding a product. She did not know what to sell so I showed her what other people had been selling that had worked with us. I do not understand where she gets that our clients are not selling what they initially wanted to sell in the first place because she was never told that. I did explain to her that the coaches would teach her how to determine if a product would sell or not. We obviously do not want our clients wasting there time trying to sell something that just won't so we try to point them in the right direction. I emphasized that we where not going to let her fail but the only way we could do that was if she stuck with this. She gave me her commitment again that she would do the program and stick with it.



We then found out that she was disputing the charges made to her credit card company. This was the first time I had heard anything about her since she had given me her commitment to continue with the program on 7/1/08. She then posted a complaint to this website.



Mr. Largin did send her a letter and actually called her after reading what was posted on this website. In the conversation she admitted that she pretty much gave up on the program. She went back to Taiwan when she lost her job for a while and did nothing with the program the whole time. She even admitted that when she received the letter from Mr. Largin she did call to contact him but never left a message for him to call.



It is explained to every client that we work with that if they do their part when it comes to working with us we will most certainly do our part to help them make their investment back. This client has admitted giving up, not returned multiple phone calls from our coaching staff and has also admitted that after speaking with me on 7/1/08 she did not leave any messages to any one in our office to cancel.



We have worked out a refund with her and we are awaiting paperwork from her on this.

Typo on order date should be june 9, 2008.