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Complaint Review: Amanda Frances - Malibu California

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  • Amanda Frances Malibu, California United States

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I took 1 course and one bundle was an affiliate for a few months. 

1) The money mentality "course" 

I truly wanted to learn something about making money online.. but the course was not what I expected. The course is a bunch of automated "live streams" she gave a few years back.. And questions to work through every week. I thought there would be real live trainings but there are none. Some useful content if you are a woman with very low self esteem. 

The classes are bundled together, material starts to get out of date, she never went over them to correct mistakes or to update them. It´s all very very low key and she milks it until its completely dead. 

Unable to download the videos - audios. Of course. 

Everything connected in FB groups only. She actually does answer to posts during the courses.. She or her assistants. Who knows.

During the first week she has a few girls posting in the FB group (probably this is set up) "I made 100k" and "I already reached the goal" .."wow it was so easy"  etc.. euphorically.. I tried to connect to these women but they never replied or engaged more with me. These are the women who stopped posting alltogether as the course progressed. Our grup is very active but its always the same handful of women. This incident is also in the recorded audios of the Money Course.. so this seems to be set up. 

-> She probably has a bunch of ppl doing this for money in the background or does it herself with fake FB profiles. Who knows. 

2) Other Bundle:

The sea in the background is so loud that I am unable to hear what she says. Its useless.

3) Affiliate Program

In the Money Mentality Makeover Amanda advertises the Affiliate Program with 50% comission. I asked about the program, then they say its 30-40%. When I asked questions about more precise conditions and so on, there is no PDF being sent or actual information about the contract you are entering. There is no contract to be blunt. Payout is ONLY via Paypal.  

Is no contract and has no real condidtions. When you sign up you dont know the conditions and she changes them without notification:

A few months into the affiliate program (I had finally made all links on my blogs and websites and got myself accustomed to the tool, generated some leeds and clicks) there was one post in the FB group with info about the launch with dates and so on.. next thing you know you must sign up again for the program. Maybe that is a filtering process. When I again asked to clarify what has changed and all I get a rude answer back from one girl in the group who claims to be the assistant "Remember being in the program is voluntary, if it does not feel right to you, you dont have to participate." and "if you have questions write to me directly" - so the group doesent get the info .. got it? 

I believe all is in FB so it cannot be tracked so easily on a legal level. Affiliate programs through FB groups.. As a former Amazon affiliate I dont think so bi*ch! 

4) Some more thoughts and feelings I have 

I noticed that she just sells her old live streams (now she doesent even do them when she announes them..) as bundles and compiles them again in larger batches to call them "courses". Courses cost a fortune and she keeps relaunching the courses in shorter and shorter intervalls as if she was running out of money fast. 

The apartment she claims to "live in" is always very neat and has the same exact decoration all the time. The books are always stacked the same way. I dont believe she lives there. She recently relocated from the Malibu beach house to another house with sea view.. and stopped posting so much about how nice this home was.. Leaves room for speculations. 

If you check her website, and go look at her testimonials.. there are only about 50% of them legit and their websites still up. 2-3 of them still are in the game and actually big on IG. Some dont even have websites or dont seem to be successful businesswomen. 

Watching her closely for months, on IG as well.. its alot of lavish spending which sooner or later ist not sustainable and no wealthy person does that. Real millionaires have investments, stocks, whatever investment programs/real estate. Amanda just spends more and more. 

It reached the top recently when she bought crystal boots and walked all around them, filmed it and took pictures.. My hard earned money spent in boots that you can only wear once in a while.. I find this respectles. Im an investment geek and trader.. Its easy for me to spot this lavish behaviour whith no welathy person would ever do. No financial litteracy in my view but ok.. she can do with her money what she wants.  Today, about 2 weeks later she posted her new mercedes cabrio on IG. Her IG suddenly jmped from about 70k to 197k followers with a blink of an eye.. 

When she takes vacation trips, she sells the dinner with her for thousands of dollars. 

She doesent bother about spellcheck. It is sometimes so bad that I dont understand what she really means.  

Conclusion

With ther material I learned a few things, worked thought some limiting beleifs. Thats all. I have not reached my financial goals, I just raised my prices. That was definitely not worth 2k. She keeps saying "I am not available for refunds".  I dont know if that is legal in the US. I just call it fraud. 

Amanda checks her haters online cloesley.... and keeps freaking out about them.. she shares this in the groups and IG.. but all it says is that she has something to hide.. otherwise why would she bother her if it was not true? You might say "where there is success there are always people who are envious.." well it took me a lot to finally get around to google her, find others say the same and do this. 

https://amandafrances.com/

https://www.instagram.com/xoamandafrances/

 

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Money Mentality Makeover Grad

AUTHOR: Jordan P. - (United States)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 28, 2020

I love Amanda Frances.

I was on this site to write a report on someone who I believe truly does rip off other people's teachings and delivery little to no value. I was surprised to see this when searching through online business complaints.

I'm enrolled in a few of Amanda's programs, but I love Money Mentality Makeover the most. It helped me to let go of the beliefs and stories and patterns I was stuck in from how I was raised, view myself as worthy and deserving, present myself in my career from a more capable and empowered place, and take intentional and determined steps in my career. I've received a promotion in the clinic I work in, my husband has implemented the mindset in his business, and we are both doing really well. I paid off my house. I feel so much more freedom around money. I know I can trust myself to handle this part of my life really well.

I really liked that the original five modules where there when I enrolled but that several new additional livestreams were added to the bonuses each year. The course keeps growing and I don't have to pay any more money. Since I've signed up she's added two modules and at least 15 bonus videos. I love them all, especially elevate into overflow. The noise of the waves you mentioned doesn't bother me. I sign in and play them all the time in my home and car. I believed this helped my husband a lot as he heard bits and pieces. The first few modules are a bit basic, but she builds and builds and builds through the modules and bonuses. I found module five, six and seven to have more depth than anyone else who teaches on money.

I liked the FB group as well. Amanda and her team answer questions in there continually, even a bit after the course is over, which is really helpful and generous. I also made a few friends in the group. There were a few girls bragging about their success the first week in the group like you said, it seemed to me like they were just promoting their businesses and when it didn't work they sort of faded away and the group went on.

I felt like the enrollment page was very clear that MMM was about changing your relationship with money, not making money online. I've heard Amanda say repeatedly that MMM isn't a business course, but a money course. 

She does have other courses specifically about online business so maybe you got confused.

I have a girlfriend in her course around online selling, "Sell from Your Soul" and her course on course creation "Course Creation Queen" who swears by both.

It sounds like you purchased the wrong course for you and maybe didn't read all of the details.

As you said, "With ther material I learned a few things, worked thought some limiting beleifs..." so maybe it helped you to the extent you allowed it to.

I'm also confused why you wanted to be an affiliate for these programs if you don't believe in or like Amanda's work? Or why it's a problem to have a group for affiliates to ask Qs on facebook. That whole section of your complain doesn't make sense to me. (Maybe they changed affiliate programs and people were signing up on the new platform and based on your general attitude were letting you know you didn't have to sign up again if you didn't want to.)

As far as the other commenter on this thread concerned that Amanda didn't live in Malibu. That seems like total silliness to me.

I just went and looked through her IG highlights. The "Malibu Vibes" and "Malibu Vibes 2" show the first beach out over a period of six months. The "New Beach House" shows the second place she lived over a period of at least a year (which makes sense as she had said she signed a year lease on the second house and extended it for one month when she was closing on her current house). I just don't think someone could fake daily ocean views, meals at the houses, friends at the houses, VIP days at the houses, a closet full of clothes at both houses for 18 months if they weren't living there.

I also followed her friend Laina's stories when Laina was staying with Amanda for several weeks while she was looking for a new apartment. How would Laina have faked the ocean views, meals in the house, and using Amanda's home workout equipment each day if Amanda didn't live there?

She never said or implied she owned either the Malibu houses. She said multiple times that she was living in Malibu while looking for the right house for her to buy. She talked about how the lease multiple times. It was even menioned on the MMM sign up page in the part where she was telling her story when I purchased.

While she lived in Malibu, she bought a duplex and quadplex in her hometown and shared about those experiences. She has a YouTube video recorded in Malibu where she breaks down finding the first house to buy.

When she purchased the home she lives in now, she shared that it was at the edge of West Hollywood and Beverly Hills. She is always really really really transparent about purchases, investments, real estate, business earnings, etc. Way more than she has to be.

The IG highlight called "Bought a House" and "AF home" show her renovation process since she bought the house she lives in now. I don't think someone can fake gutting a bathroom, laundry room, bar area and closet like she shows us in those highlights.

This is honestly a lot of silliness - and if you follow along and pay attention - you'll see that Amanda is really really transparent and shares a lot more of her life and the details of how she does things then she certainly is required to. The five highlight reels show her in these houses every day. Working, eating, working out, watching TV, having friends over, etc...

She owns a online education and coaching company that grows and grows and grows each year. The company pays her a salary and with that she bought a house in West Hollywood and other smaller properties in her hometown along the way as investments. None of this is hardly controversial.

If she wanted to buy crystal boots and share about them, it's really a big leap to say that was from 'your' money, when tens of thousands of people buy and love her programs.

As far as her IG doubling, she shared that she participated in an IG contest where people liked her page and a few other business pages to be elegable to win.

I've taken so many online courses from people who do not deliver the way they say they will.

Amanda shares so much free content with her weekly youtube and podcast and constant social media inspirational writing and adds so many updates and bonuses to courses for alumni without asking for more money to receive the new content. She shares what it's really like to grow a business slowly and with determination for like a decade. This woman didn't get here over night and you'd know that if you'd pay attention.

It's like y'all are paying attention, but not paying enough attention to find out the details, feel better, or know the facts.

There are a lot more productive things we could all be doing than talking about this.

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Amanda Frances, lives in West Hollywood not this Malibu mansion (proof) and that's just the beginning....

AUTHOR: Alison - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 22, 2020

Amanda Frances of AmandaFrances.com, lives in West Hollywood not this Malibu Millionaire life she's been claiming for years. Why is she lying? Because people give her money because this instas-sham!

Why lie if you're living your best life, Amanda?

Her money doesn't come because she has the answers to abundance, it's because people think she does and don't understand it's their money she's playing with.

*** I know how to get rich and live a fabulous life, give me money and I will show you! *** 

  1. She says she can get money.
  2. You give her YOUR money.
  3. Now she has money.
  4. Rinse. Recycle. Repeat.

Now that people are catching on, she is using words like scam artist and fraud so her website comes before these rip-off reports. There are a few here of her. 

Web results amandafrances.com › amanda-frances-reviews-they-called-me-a-scam...The Only Way to Handle Haters | amanda frances | business ... I accidentally read something awful about myself on the internet. I was called scam artist, cult leader, manipulator, and fraud. Amanda Frances ...amandafrances.com › tag › amanda-frances-scam amanda frances scam | amanda frances | business mentor + ... Tags › amanda frances scam.  amandafrances.com › tag › they-called-me-a-scam-artist they called me a scam artist | amanda frances | business ...   The Only Way to Handle Haters   Amanda Frances is not living the lifestyle or making the money she claims and it takes a moment to realize that, when you feel all alone in your facts after being attacked for raising concern - instead of opening up a conversation.

Amanda has old friends from the beginning (the people that get the cut of your affiliate fees and act like new people who made hundreds of thousands- the cheerleaders) she has them confront the people in the group that all of a sudden realize something is amiss, they are in debt and are bullied into silence or blocked all together, so they don't find allies or feel locked into a contract and can't get money back. 

------ But people have gotten their money back. Contact your bank (usually works). Have a lawyer send her a certified letter, which you can require doing a search through the instruction of the next paragraph. Do not feel you have to be quiet. Warn others, get your support group together. Class action this. If you want to spiritually grow, you have to be of service in your own way and that's by protecting others when you have been a victim yourself. With that group you can have an abundance money love session, for free but for real. No bullying.

That said, don't you dare tell Amanda about how you're going to make money. Anything remotely like hers and she will shut it down. You can't get a group together or talk about manifest anything. 

First and foremost, she has never lived in Malibu. I point this out because part of her image is her beach house and cook and living so lux. Her current home is in West Hollywood. I will not show that information here, but if you do a white pages premium search it will show. Where and how she lives is part of her pitch, so this is all part of the lie.

August 2019 - October 2019 living in West Hollywood at the current address that are in her instagram highlights of a place she just "bought". I assume this was her moving out or maybe moving in, but Malibu it is not.

From April 2017 - September 2019 (when she was supposed to be living in California) her residence was Florida. Then there is a whole list, she moves around a lot, none of which is California.  Her Delaware business license last time I checked was also inactive as I recall. But those pictures - it's an AirBnb world. 

Do a search on "website net worth" put in AmandaFrances.com. Nowhere NEAR a million dollars. 

Report her to the FTC. Report her to Paypal to investigate the paypal receipts. 

You can get a lot of manifestion for money information free, paying does not mean it is worth more - that is the trick. You have to do the work, paying is not doing the work. When she says debt is not a bad thing, people have lost tens of thousands of dollars not seeing results, your debt is not bad - for her. 

Debt it real. 

If you want to know how a social media persona can pretend to have millions - she has people paying her a lot of money for doing nothing you can't do. You can find a group of friends with common beliefs. You can practice meditating. You don't need a leader, *you can be the leader.*

Also, if you want to play the part of an instagram lux life.

  • fake paypal invoices. Google it. 
  • renttherunway.com - you can rent luxury bags and dresses etc. 
  • You can buy on ebay boxes and shopping bags of designer goods like Chanel.
  • You can also go into the stores, buy one thing and the people will give you boxes.
  • AirBnb.
  • Have a scout find locations for shooting. Hotels everywhere will let you rent out rooms inbetween people staying overnght for an hourly rate.
  • As a social personality, you get a lot of comp.

Amanda, I know you are reading this. Why not honestly guarantee money back? Why not be real about not living in Malibu? I am doing you a favor by not telling people more. With evidence. Now it's time for everyone to start speaking up - my work here is done.

 

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