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Complaint Review: Arlington Automall - Suzuki Motors - Arlington Texas

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  • Arlington Automall - Suzuki Motors 1400 E. I-20 Arlington, Texas U.S.A.

Arlington Automall - Suzuki Motors Service Dept. DOESN'T STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT!! RIPOFF Arlington Texas

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During the spring of '03 I took my '02 Sukuki XL-7 in for warranty work. The transfer case had begun to leak oil. I had also been hearing the timing chain rattle during a 'cold start'. I had been reading on a discussion board that there was a problem with a tensioner, and it was prone to fail. So I requested that they take a look (or listen) at the tensioner. When I called to check on the vehicle they informed me that the gasket was leaking on the timing chain cover, along with the oil filter, and needed to be replaced, all of which would be covered by the 3/36000 warranty.

So I told them to go ahead and do the job, but if they were to replace the oil they were to use Mobil 1 synthetic oil ONLY, since it was all I had been running in my vehicle since it had 9K miles on it. When I picked my XL-7 up I was told that there wasn't anything wrong with my timing chain tensioner.

By the way, I find it hard to believe that my "oil filter was leaking", since I've replaced hundreds of oil filters in my life and have never had one leak a DROP! But if they wanted to replace it under warranty....so be it. When I looked at the receipt I noticed that they had replaced the oil with regular Valvoline. I asked the service manager if that were correct and he said "yes". So I requested to see the work order and there it was "Use Mobil 1 5W-30 only". All he could say was "We're sorry". So I drove straight to Oreilly and spent my own money on an oil change that shouldn't have been needed. The very next morning when we started the vehicle (cold) I could faintly hear the tapping of the timing chain.

I called the dealer to tell him that I still heard it and he told me that it was probably due to the switch to Valvoline from Mobil 1. I'm not stupid, but I thought I'd give it a little time anyway. For the next couple of months the noise would come and go. When the vehicle had 33K miles on it we left on a trip across the Southwest. We drove the vehicle 3400 miles through New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, and Colorado. During the trip the chain started to get louder and louder. When we returned home contacted the service dept. again, and was told to bring it in for them to check it out. This time they agreed that there was a problem with the tensioner. Only it was going to cost me approx. $1500 to fix it since the vehilce had barely gone over 36K miles. I presented the manager with the work orders that showed my concern about this problem. Then I refreshed his memory about our phone conversations. I also told him that we had just returned from a very long road trip and hadn't had an opportunity to bring it in for service.

None of this seemed to matter. He directed my complaint to the district manager (I don't recall his name) who wasn't very sympathetic at all. He said that they would pay for the parts, but I would still have to pay nearly $1000 for the labor. This man was very rude and unproffesional. I then contacted the Suzuki dealership in Waco, which is actually a few miles closer to my home, to see if they could help me out. After explaining the situation to the service manager he agreed that they should pay to replace the tensioner. So he said that I should contact HIS district manager with my problem. As is so happens, IT WAS THE SAME GUY!!!!


This all happened more than 2 years ago. Yet it still burns me up to think about it. I decided to drive the piece of junk (Actually it's a great vehicle, it just makes me think about the service dept.) until it fell apart. Well, we've got 85K miles on it now and the timing chain has just recently begun to get louder.
There are so many reasons why Suzuki should stand behind their product in this instance. But what can you do? Sometimes a few idiots can ruin the product with their actions.

Maury
blooming grove, Texas
U.S.A.

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AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 15, 2006

We had a customer who bought a used '01-'02 Suzuki with the 2.7V6. It had 32K on it about 1 1/2 years ago. It now has 57K. It had the cold start noise and the same at idle when hot. Bring the engine off idle to about 1000rpm and the noise would go away, return about 20 seconds after the engine came back to idle.

Did some reasearch (AERA, All Data, Motorage etc.) The first thing that came up was T/C cover leak. The second was the tensioner issue. Seems like the OEM part has very tight clearances and a small orface that can plug up or gum up. So with nothing to loose we dumped in some Berryman's in the oil (as per instructions) and replaced the oil/filter. The noise went away. This amazed me as I'm not the 'Cure in the can' type of guy. But, it worked on hyd. lifters 25 years ago, when the quality of oil and filters was lacking. I hope the problem was caught soon enough that no damage was done to the internal parts and only time will tell.

However it was also noted to use 5W-30 Oil only. Use a OEM oil filter or a good aftermarket such as WIX, NAPA, Carquest etc. not the junk you get at the discount stores. The most inportant was to change oil at 3000 miles max. along with the filter to prevent the tensioner glitch.

Back to the Mobil 1. It will last forever but you have to take into concideration, when an oil filter bypasses, the fine parcticles, sludge, etc. remains in the oil and will end up in the tensioner. So this is why the 3000 mile oil changes and good filters.

BTW, I shared the above info. with the service manager at the local Suzuki store and he was very receptive. He has his hands tied as to what the factory will pay for. At least he can relay the oil change info. to his customers so they can prevent a failure If they choose to listen. Which I really doupt with the average car owner going to the Quckie oil change joint for what ever oil they have in the barrel at the time plus cheapie filter and wating 5000+ miles between changes.

I'm not trying to defend Suzuki but I hope the above information helps someone avoid big buck repairs.

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