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Complaint Review: BLUE DRAGON SHAR PEI - Liberty Missouri

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  • BLUE DRAGON SHAR PEI Liberty, Missouri United States of America

BLUE DRAGON SHAR PEI BIGKAHUNA SHAR PEI BUYER BEWARE. I PURCHASED TWO MINI CHINESE SHAR PEI FROM THIS BREEDER BOTH WERE TO BE USED FOR BREEDING NEITHER WERE GENETICALLY HEALTHY ENOUGH FOR BREEDING. Liberty Missouri

*Consumer Comment: NEED help finding MOLLY!!

*Author of original report: blue dragon shar pei

*General Comment: Non payment of dog she bought

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: No proof no action on six year health warranty

*General Comment: AKC Papers

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For anyone looking to purchase a registered toy or mini chinese shar pei. Please avoid Christin Lamb or Christin Fraser (she used both names) and uses two kennel names one is called Blue Dragon shar pei, the other is Bigkahuna shar pei.

I purchased two mini female shar pei from Christin Lamb (Fraser) these two weren't the original dogs I had paid for in full but subsitutes. One was a lilac mini female, the other was a black brushcoat female who was sold to me as a small standard. When I asked Christin what was meant by a small standard I was told under 18" at the shoulder. The mini's to be classified as such must not be over 17" at the shoulder. I don't consider a small standard being 21 plus inches!! Also at the time of making arrangements for the two females Christin emailed me to inform me that she had sent a black female to a breeder in Abbotsford British Columia Canada. Christin said this breeder was returning the puppy as the puppy when checked by a veterinarian had an eye problem that would only worsen not improve. Chris wanted me to take this puppy and have the black female I bought sent as a replacement to this breeder in B.C. I told Christin that in no way shape or form did I want a shar pei with eye problems that wouldn't get better. I found out that the black pei puppy I received was the puppy returned to her by the other breeder and I did indeed get the puppy with eye problems. I told Chris and sent pictures of Money to her she only said return the dog. Please people I live in Canada as it was I drove from Saskatchewan to Billings Montana to pick these two girls up. Now Chris wants the dog back stating the vets in Saskatchewan were country hicks and didn't know what they were talking about. I made it clear Money wouldn't be returned. 

When both these females arrived at my home neither were clean and quite frankly stunk so into the tub they went. The lilac female wasn't well when she'd lie down she would start screaming in pain which would come and go quickly. She then proceeded to poop worm fragments with blood in the stool. I made sure both were wormed asap both had worms BAD CASE OF WORMS. What breeder sends out two dogs in such bad shape.

To make a long story short I purchased two mini females. The black female is severely sight impared and still may go blind. This female is now spayed and in a forever pet home.

The second lilac female had a temperment SO BAD she was scared of her own shadow. This female is spayed and has been placed in a pet home.

I have been in touch either by phone or through email from other breeders and pet owners who Christin has ripped off. Please don't buy from this miller she's all talk but won't honor her bogus 6 yr. health warranty (guarantee). Once your money is in her hands forget you won't get any breeder support. She will and does blame the buyer for any health/genetic problems her dogs have. She will never take responsiblity and offer to replace the dog.

If you too have been ripped off by this breeder join me write a report and submit it to rip off report. PS- It is over 2 yrs pushing 3 years since I purchased my 2 girls still NO AKC REGISTRATION. Whether I placed these two pei or not I bought them and the full AKC registration that  I was told they both had.

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#5 Consumer Comment

NEED help finding MOLLY!!

AUTHOR: oleoswyona - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, April 24, 2011

CHRISTIN FRASIER or what ever name she goes by STOLE OUR DOG and then gave it away with out ONE d**n PAYMENT!!

Anyone posting on here that may know who she gave the dog to please respond to marydkeaveny@aol.com.

I have listed a report on what this woman did and I need help locating the dog she stole.

Molly is pictured in my report!!

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#4 Author of original report

blue dragon shar pei

AUTHOR: Sharon - (Canada)

POSTED: Saturday, April 23, 2011

Hi Christin
Long time no hear. Since you ended with Pet Palace shar pei I will begin with Pet Palace. I was warned NOT to purchase a shar pei from you. You couldn't be trusted and I would be burned.  Believe me your not well liked by this seasoned breeder. I always give people the benefit of the doubt and trusted you to sell me 2 breeding quality pei.  Pet Palace was right!!!
Also lets clarify this point: You Did Go To Jail!!!!!!

Let me also clarify this great wonderful warranty you speak of really is nothing more than words on paper which if you're so into details" You Never Had Me Sign"!!! If you forge my signature on your warranty there is a jail cell with your name on it waiting for you in Canada!! By the way I'm NOT using a male that has anything to do with your breeding!!! Wyatt is my
foundation stud. Unless of course you wish to pretend you bred him which we all know you didn't. For those who don't know Wyatt came from Pet Palace kennels. I love this boy to death.You mentioned that I ripped some American breeders off. So strange just in the last couple of days any American breeder who purchased from me and I have either corresponded by email
or spoke on the phone. Funny they didn't tell me they were displeased with the dogs they purchased or with me as that dogs breeder. Now lets discuss the two dogs you sold me the ones I drove to Billings Montana to pick up as you refused to ship them into Canada.

Money- The b***h puppy you sold to a breeder in British Columbia Canada  returned to you due to bad eyes!!!!! Christin you contacted me and asked me to take this pup. I said NO I didn't want a pup with bad eyes. However after talking to this breeder in B.C. I know I got the pup I rejected. Bad eyes and I. There is a bright spot however. MONEY IS NOW WORKING WITH SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN. I GAVE MONEY AWAY!!! WHY? I REFUSED TO SEND HER BACK TOOK MY FINANCIAL LOSS. YOU HONESTLY THOUGHT I'D SEND MONEY BACK HAVE YOU. YOU'D KEEP THE CASH I PAID YOU FOR HER AND ALLOW YOU TO USE HER IN ANY BREEDING PROGRAM??? DON'T SAY YOU WOULDN'T DO THIS. OH YES AS YOU DID IT TO A WOMAN IN NEW YORK. WHERE IS HER MONEY CHRISTIN??? LAST REPORT SHE'S STILL WAITING. JADE: LILAC MINI FEMALE: SCARED OF HER OWN SHADOW. YOU DID TELL ME CHRISTIN THAT YOUR BLUE LINE PEI DID HAVE TEMPERMENT ISSUES. NO DOUBT YOU'LL CONVENIENTLY FORGET SAYING THIS. BUT THEN THAT'S YOUR MOTTO!!

WORMS::: OMG YES BOTH MONEY AND JADE WERE LOADED. BOTH HAD WORMS SOOOOOOOOOO BAD SOME WORMS WERE STILL MOVING!! IT WOULD HAVE FILLED A SMALL PLATE AND LOOKED LIKE I HAD PREPARED SPAGHETTI FOR SUPPER. I THOUGHT MY ROOMMATE WAS GOING TO LOOSE HIS.

As far as length of time I have been raising shar pei obviously length of time in years ISN'T A GUARANTEE OF A HONEST BREEDER. CHRISTIN YOU AREN'T HONEST! YOU ARE A LIAR AND CHEAT! Now as far as breeding knowledge don't sell me short I could teach you LOTS!!! 30 PLUS YEARS OF BREEDING DOGS, MANAGING KENNELS, TRAINING DOGS FOR HEARING IMPAIRED, VETERINARY ASSISTANT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT CHRISTIN I DO UNDERSTAND GENETICS AND OPEN MINDED ENOUGH TO LEARN FROM SEASONED SHAR PEI BREEDERS. IN FACT I CRAVE IT. I ENJOY LEARNING FROM
THOSE WHO TRULY LOVE THE SHAR PEI AND DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE IN PREVENTING ANOTHER PEI SUFFERING FROM AMYLOIDOSIS, FSF, THE LIST GOES ON. CHRISTIN YOU UNDERSTAND THESE PROBLEMS BUT YOUR MORE INTO THE MONEY NOT THE HEALTH OF WHAT YOU SELL.

YOU CERTAINLY DON'T GIVE A RATS _SS ABOUT THOSE YOU HURT THE ONES YOU RIP OFF. BY THE WAY I DO HAVE A PICTURE SENT TO ME FROM ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR UNHAPPY CLIENTS SHOWING THE BOTCHED EYE TACKING. LOOKED LIKE ENTROPION TO ME. GEE CHRIS THIS NOBODY NOT IN PEI LONG PERSON EVEN KNOWS WHAT ENTROPION. CHRISTIN YOU NEED TO BE STOPPED!!! YOU'RE A LEGEND IN YOUR MIND ONLY.  I STAND BY WHAT I DID WITH MY 2 PEI PURCHASED FROM YOU I GLADLY THREW THE CASH I PAID YOU TO THE WIND. I DID IT FOR TWO REASONS: 1. PREVENT YOU FROM USING EITHER ONE IN ANY BREEDING PROGRAM 2. FOUND BOTH LOVING HOMES BEING COUCH POTATOES NOT CONTINUAL BROOD BITCHES!!!!!

CHRISTIN THERE IS RIGHT AND WRONG. PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH. START TELLING THE TRUTH YOU'LL START FEELING BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF. WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU ARE. YOU'RE LIKE A BAD HEMORRHOID THAT JUST KEEPS COMING BACK. JUST GO AWAY CRAWL BACK UNDER THAT ROCK PUSH YOUR HEAD INTO THE SAND AND TELL  YOURSELF "I'M A GOOD PERSON". PERHAPS ONE DAY YOU'LL BELIEVE IT AND STOP YOUR INSANITY. 

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#3 General Comment

Non payment of dog she bought

AUTHOR: oleoswyona - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, April 14, 2011

Sold a standard Chinese Shar-Pei named Molly to Chris the owner of the kennel. Dog was sold on an agreement to pay later and 2 years later she still has not paid!! The dog was also sold PREGNANT so she got the sale of the puppies as well.

In the summer of 2010 I emailed this woman yet again about payment and she comes up with the poor poor me crap. SO I said send the dog back at my expense but you need to supply the crate seeing I did to send her there. She said she sold that crate and the dog did not fit it in anyway. IT WAS A LARGE DOG CRATE. She kept giving this BS crap that she needed an Xlarge crate. What Shar-Pei needs and xlarge and what airline would allow a dog to fly in a carte that was to small....just more BS on her part. So I told her to find and buy one and let me know. In the mean time all she did was stall with the heat conditions and it would have to wait.

MONTHS later she says she has a crate, so I wait for her to make arrangements and NOTHING!!. So again when the weather was at a point where there would be no excuse I email again and tell her to get this done.....and what does she have the balls to say? She did not hear back from ME and she gave the dog away!! Then goes on to say how she "housed" the dog for a year and I owe HER MONEY!! She is a con and a THIEF!! She got a FULL litter of pups for FREE as well and God knows how many times she bred her after that and she could not pay the $300 owed.

Needless to say I have the AKC papers on this dog and if anyone has her they should contact me as the dog is now reported STOLEN and I will be filing charges on this woman.

She is a liar and a thief and I see I am not the only one that thinks so and has bad dealings with her!!

My life sucks sometimes to but I do not use that as an excuse to get things for nothing and not pay my way in life, make deals I cannot follow through on or act like a child!!!

For thoses that do not have papers on a dog out of Molly, it is because I did not give them to her per our agreement on payment!!

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

No proof no action on six year health warranty

AUTHOR: Blue Dragon Shar Pei - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, February 06, 2011

Sharon Laird is new to Shar Pei. She would lead you to believe she was a seasoned breeder with her registered kennel name but she began breeding Shar Pei only a couple of years ago. For six months she raved about the dogs she got from me on a Toy Shar Pei list. Then silence for about six months then out of the blue she says one dog is going blind. Since Ms Laird has a SIX YEAR HEALTH warranty with a full replacement policy I asked Ms Laird to supply a veterinary report to support her complaint on what was wrong with the puppy. She never responded with any vet reprot of any kind.

Sharon subsequently said her other dog not related to the first one had a temperment issue. This cvould be easily caused by the owner. Again no vet confirmation of any kind as to what if any the problem was. I offered to still replace the dogs if she returned them. She refused. WHO replaces or refunds on anything without valid proof of the complaint or return of the purchasded item???

She was told the AKC CHAMPION sired Best in Show bred  b***h pictured here  would be in the standard size range and she needed to wait for a mini if she wanted one. She did not. Her contract I have a copy of for anyone to see who requests it says she has bought a standard dog with NO mini guarantee.  The other puppy buyer she mentioned wanted a toy and returned that littermate I offered to Sharon who did not want her and took the bigger one with better eyes. I still own the sister and she has produced beautiful puppies for me.  IF I had switched them how dfd her vet miss the eye problem when she recieved the dog? I have dozens of emails from Miss Laid I am happy to shar with anyone. giving no indication of problems like this and only 100% pleased. But she did complain aobut the horrible prices her vet charged for tacks. $250 up as I understand it.


Sharon suggests I gave her a puppy which in fact I still own and I have no idea why she would say all of this YEARS after her purchase except for a perosnal vendetta. Her contract is explicit as to how to recieve a replacement. She did none of the steps required so now she believes if she lies and bullies me in public I will do what exactly?

Why if the puppy had a vision disorder did my vet miss it when shipping the puppy and her vet miss it for almost a year???!! But wait...her vet has never told me anything was wrong with this dog though she does appear cross eyed here she does not appear blind.  And for the record this is the FIRST picture I have had of her after dozens of requests for one.

If Sharon did not properly tack this puppy she could cuase eye damage that is not genetic. I suspect this is why I have no vet verification given her complaints about her vets charges for this.

Ms Laird did ask to put the dog down as she did not want to spend the time and money to return her to me. I found that option unacceptable...and because I did she chose this avenue to punish me. I accept that punishment gladly rather than agree to have a baby I brought into this world summarily put down on a pet owners personal opinion.

AND worm fragments in a puppy?? Seriously??

As to papers......Miss Laird signed a contract that asked her to do certain things for those papers not the least of which would be submit proof of nuetering to get them if she did not complete her mentoring program or do her hip certifications. The contract also reqiuired the return of the dogs if she could not or would not keep them.

As to her so called friends who were unable to purchase from me OR wanted me to register puppies from a nine month old male...sorry...the contract is a stickler. DONT buy if you dont intend to be honest about your goals and obligations. 

I am NOT BIG KAHUNA that was a friend of mine this girl viciously went after without any reason.
Sharon has also defamed another long time toy breeder  Pet Palace Shar Pei (petpalacesharpei.com)  and another breeder she has sold to as well as others. Email and ask them. She uses a stud dog out of a b***h I bred. Now how bad can my dogs be?? Really Sharon? REALLY???

The only question I have left is How  Rippoff can allow some one to use personal opinions as  statements of fact?? 
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#1 General Comment

AKC Papers

AUTHOR: Kristina - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, September 29, 2010

Don't count on ever seeing them or any other on a "miniature/toy" Chinese Shar-pei. Why? Because the AKC only recognizes the size as put forth in the breed standard written by the national breed club. While there is a miniature Shar-pei club they have made no move to get ACK recognition. Of course that requires the main parent club agreeing to such a thing.



From the AKC standard

Size, Proportion, Substance 
The height is 18 to 20 inches at the withers. The weight is 45 to 60 pounds. The dog is usually larger and more square bodied than the b***h but both appear well proportioned. The height of the Shar-Pei from the ground to the withers is approximately equal to the length from the point of breastbone to the point of rump.



If you were told these pups had papers, but never saw proof the parents themselves were registered and proof their litters had been registered, they why take this woman at her word?
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