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Complaint Review: CHIDOLLS - Manteca California

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CHIDOLLS ripoff lies lies lies phoney Manteca California

*Consumer Comment: Debra is a Liar through and through

*Consumer Comment: Who is on your shipping document

*Consumer Comment: It did make my day, actually!

*Consumer Comment: Awww thanks April

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: April -Trying to figure out why you'r even here

*Consumer Comment: Debra's email to me

*Consumer Comment: Don't worry about it April

*Consumer Comment: More to the Sacramento Breeder story then what is stated

*Consumer Comment: An Apology

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: RESPONSE TO APRIL CORRECTION

*Consumer Comment: Debra Vs. Deborah

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: RESPONSE TO APRIL

*Consumer Comment: Last post ... when you lie down with dogs, expect to get bit.

*Consumer Comment: I am sorry too

*Consumer Comment: Truth

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: SECOND REQUEST FOR JENN TO CONTACT ME

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: SECOND REQUEST FOR JENN TO CONTACT ME

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: SECOND REQUEST FOR JENN TO CONTACT ME

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: SECOND REQUEST FOR JENN TO CONTACT ME

*Author of original report: Contact jenn

*Author of original report: This is jenn.

*Consumer Comment: Debbie and Gomez

*Consumer Suggestion: Debra response to April or should i say lies?

*Consumer Suggestion: I have contacted all appropriate agencies

*Consumer Comment: Mail fraud is a federal offense

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: RESPONSE TO APRIL

*Consumer Suggestion: Debra, you are so full of it!! other breeders are just repulsed by what you do... they know what you are... a PUPPYMILL..!!

*Consumer Comment: timmy 3000 canadian dollars

*Consumer Suggestion: Debra the LIAR part 2

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: DEPOSITS- WHO IS JENN ? - BREEDERS BASHING BREEDERS

*Consumer Comment: Typical Debra Lies ...

*Consumer Suggestion: Debra the LIAR

*Author of original report: TImmy

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: JODIE OBRIEN IS LYING. Told us to keep deposit !Told us to RESELL Swan!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: WE ARE NOT THE BREEDER OF APRILS PUPPY

*Consumer Suggestion: STOP YOUR LIES DEBRA

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Breeders bashing Breeders- Fake report written by a breeder

*Consumer Suggestion: All her chihuahuas chihuahua are from puppy mills...

*Consumer Suggestion: All her chihuahuas chihuahua are from puppy mills...

*Consumer Suggestion: All her chihuahuas chihuahua are from puppy mills...

*Consumer Suggestion: All her chihuahuas chihuahua are from puppy mills...

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I Have heard many things about this place... wish i had read earlier. She did rip me off but i didnt even think it was important to mention untill i saw a post from a few days ago. Im not the only one she had made a payment arrangement with .. only in oredr to call and demand payment within a few days or she will sell your dog to someone else.

The puppy was tiny timmy... htis was awhile ago... about a year. I loved him he was so cute and tiny ..so i called about him and agreed to put a deposit on him. He was 4 weeks old and i was to make payments on him till he was 16 weeks and old enough to travel. She was so nice on the phone.. really like your grandma or friend...she received my deposit and then waits 3 days and calls me demanding the rest of the money. This was a 3000 dollar dog that i thought i had 3 months to pay for and wham. I asked then if i could have me deposit back since SHE changed the deal. She says NO WAY. and thats it i lose 200 and she was the one who backed out. DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS LADY SHE WILL SCREW YOU AS SHE SEES FIT.

Jenn
Sherwood Park, Alberta
Canada

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#41 Consumer Comment

Debra is a Liar through and through

AUTHOR: Margaret - (Canada)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 03, 2006

I would like to know how you can say you sold a puppy of showline quality when Gomez has HYDRO is a show dog not supposed to be FREE OF ANY DEFECTS. In my understanding even if a puppy has bad teeth he is not of show quality. So how can YOUsay GOMEZ IS A SHOWLINE QUALITY PUPPY.I think you had etter checkup on what SHOWLINE MEANS.

Debra you are awayoff base in your writings of Gomez. Then you never paid 1500 us over the price of Gomez, he was 3500us NOT 3000 us. Your numbers donot addup very well. And furthermore you forgot all about Anikin he was sent at the same time, you also were sooooooooooo happy that we were thinking of another puppy to travel with Gomez, you also said that sometimes you recommend that a buyer buy another pup to travel with a pup.

YOU may think I have a short memory but it is only short when it suits me,however you also seem to forget that Anikin and Gomez really STUNK when we received them in Toronto. The smell was sooooooooooo bad we could hardly wait to get home to bath them this has never been put on ripoff before but now I want everyone to know that their puppy they buy from you is DIRTY AND STINKS.

You are so involved with other nonsence like putting jens record on ripoff you forget you have obligations to your puppies. This means they need to be bathed before shipped to the new owner. In my mind when you receive a puppy of the price you charge they should smell like wonderful wildflowers not PISS AND POOP. Has any of this rubbed off on your brain yet?

YOU SEND PUPPIES THAT SOMEHOW PASS A VET CHECK WITH HYDRO,EARMITES,MANGE,COXCIDIA and you think people should just take this lying down? WELL you have a big surprise coming, as I am the one who bought Anikin with Gomez.

PEOPLE out there can you just imagime a puppy with MANGE? Now you have children and grandchildren,also I have a great grandson, they can get Mange from the puppies. REAL NICE EH?

For some reason DEBRA DRURY thinks that people are interested in Jens backround,WELL PERSONALLY I AM PROUD OF JEN ON HOW SHE HAS TURNED HER LIFE AROUND SHE RAISES HER CHILDREN , SHE IS A PROFESSIONAL THAT DEALS WITH THOUANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A DAY AND I THINK SHE IS A WONDERFUL PERSON, AS IT MUST BE VERY HARD TO CHANGE YOUR WHOLE LIFE. Good for you JEN you really did a wonderful thing with your life, and you do wonders for your daughters. KEEP UP THE EXCELLENT WORK.

People like Debra are just jealous of your excellent efforts that paidoff for you.

She says that the CPS were supposed to have come here well that is a crock of s--t.They never even came and they have no reason to, maybe she is just jealous because she maxed her credit cards out on her CATS. Toooooooooo bad she didnt spend alittle time on her puppies and clean them up before she sends them to their new home. JEN KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AS RAISING CHILDERN IS A FULL TIME POSITION AND YOU ARE DOING TWO POSITIONS this must be very hard.

Personally I was a lucky person as I was a stay at home mom my hubby had a good paying job. By the way people you think Debra is so nice at times well I will tell you something just in passing. Last year when I asked my daughter to get the info on Anikin I was of ill health and Debra knew this as MY daughter told her. Well I am on a small pension and I just had a small stroke in May 2005. Do you think I can keep trying to catch Anikin because the BREEDER never had time to give her puppies human contact? She just runs a PUPPYMILL and to hell if you have to chase your pup to carry him in your arms. Well I am lucky to have Grandchildren to help me with catching my boy. Not everyone has this help.

Anikin loves to be held but to pick him up it is always a game to him. I LOVE ANIKIN WITH ALL MY HEART he is my MAIN SQUEEZE as hubby passed away some 7 years ago. Maybe I told you too much about me but I just want you to know where I am coming from, please remember I am a senior citizen and am on disability so to get a puppy that is not loved when it is born well this kind of a Breeder should stop being a PUPPY MILLER. just breed what you can really look after properly. DEBRA STOP YOUR LYING ABOUT GOMEZ HE WAS VERY SICK WHEN HE ARRIVED HERE AND YOUR ANSWER TO US WAS REAL THOUGHTLESS AND TOTALY WITH NOOOOOOOOOOO UNDERSTANDING. YOU HAVE NO LOVE FOR DOGS. YOU SEEM TO ONLY LOVE YOUR CATS. WELL STOP BREEDING PUPPIES AND JUST LOOK AFTER CATS. You also know you would not accept my daughters email of the Vets report when we took Gomez to the vet here, you said our vet was a kook. Well what do you think I think of a vet that passes a puppy with HYDRO very clearly to his inspection when he seen him? Our vet is tops with me he sent us to Toronto to specialist just like YOU insisted on. It takes time for the results to come back, but you never once mentioned why the reports took sooooooooooo long toooooooooo much for your brain to comprehend, or do you think the specialists only have one patient to look after? WRONG WRONG they have others as well so next time someone has a puppy that is as ill as our GOMEZ remember reports take time to get maybe your vet gives you them right away but he is not toooooooooo smart when he didnot see GOMEZES problem rightaway.

Or did you do like you accused my daughter of, take a healthy puppy that looked like GOMEZ to the vet to get checkedup?

MARGARET FROM ONTARIO,ONTARIO

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#40 Consumer Comment

Who is on your shipping document

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 24, 2006

Do you want proof if they are involved?
Who is on your registration papers as the breeder?
who is on the shipping document as the shipper? who is on the health cert as the Vet?
who is on the health cert as the person who is shipping?
do they all match?
are any of the names from above questions listed in any of the reports on this site?

Is your breeder someone other then the person you bought from?

This will let you know who is involved with your puppy.

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#39 Consumer Comment

It did make my day, actually!

AUTHOR: April - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 23, 2006

That's right. You DON'T know me. That's why I was so floored to read your 2 page email blasting me for being such a wretched person. Get it yet?
(and by the way, I do believe you were involved in the breeding and sale of my dog).

As for me blasting Deborah and Jodie, I sure did. I have been blessed with a strong moral guide on right and wrong, and if they would have let you buy them off, that would be have been dispicable and I have no problem calling it. It turned out that you have no problem impersonating people, but I didn't realize I was dealing with a psychopath at the time.

I am not 'friends' with any of these woman, although I'm sure they are decent people. I have never had so much as ONE conversation with any of them. They don't know me, and I don't know anything of them.

As for getting enjoyment from seeing your reputation TANK, you bet I am.

You deserve nothing less.

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#38 Consumer Comment

Awww thanks April

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 18, 2006

Thanks so much April, you are so kind. If you even knew half of what Debbie went through, you would get sick to your stomach. I think during that 7 months I lost about 20lbs just the stress and worry for poor Gomez. Plus there was another one who was having the same problem, exact same problem. My heart goes out to these people.

Ya know, you can't even blame the breeders if something like this happens, you can trace your bloodlines as far back as you want but no one knows the outcome when you put a pair of dogs together. Genetically there is no way of truly knowing the outcome. But as a breeder denying and blaming does nothing for no one. When you are a breeder you are introducing a new family member to a loving home, that is the ultimate goal. It is unconditional love as soon as that pup walks through the door, or even if you watch your new baby grow up online with updated pictures. It is a love you only feel for your children and family. So when a breeder acts cold hearted and starts blaming others, that makes the situation worse, 10 times worse.

Dealing with the family once something like hydro pops up has to be a gentle and caring approach. NOT "It's your fault" type of attitude. It is all about how you handle it if and when the situation arises and that is what makes a good breeder.

Debra will never admit she was wrong nor will she ever let it live down that I, a breeder, cared enough to talk to HER customers. Anything that ever happens I am sure will be my fault. That is fine. First off, there is no way in hell I would drive 100 miles to stand in her yard at night. NONE, Zero, nope will not waste my 3.00 a gallon gas on that. Good try Debra. I did not know trailer parks had yards Hmm anyways, I would never call any law enforcement agencies on anyone, UNLESS I knew that dogs or any animal for that matter were living in horrible conditions, H**l ya I would call! only if I new for myself and not word of mouth so you can call all the agencies you want Debra, you will never find anything from me and my "Breeder friends" are way more interested in the health and well being of their dogs to waste on you.

She claims she is so sick and cannot handle this stress, at first I really fealt for her, I truly thought that was her problem. But everyone I know who is suffering from a life threatening defect or illness has a different outlook on life, like make sure all is well before my number is called, do right by your neighbor, and treat each other with kindness. I know if I was acting that way, I surely would not want my number pulled anytime soon. She spends more time and money looking up people's past then just simply helping her customers. What gives?

Another thing, she claims in her email to you that she is not worried or scared yet in her ripoffreport she is fearful for herself and her family. I always say a little prayer for Debra in hopes that one day she will just be happy in her skin and that she can just stop, put on the shoes of the one in question and ask herself "How would I feel if the tables were turned"

I just want to thank you for sticking up for me.

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#37 REBUTTAL Individual responds

April -Trying to figure out why you'r even here

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 18, 2006

Who are you ? Iv never met you,never sold a dog to you .I think you'r someone I insulted a year ago so I apologised.

Weren't you the one saying GO Debbie MC Cooeye! and GO Jodie! because they attacked me ? Awwww then what happened?

They both apologised and April thought her little soap opera was going away???

So you bashed Deborah and Jodie all up calling them pathetic etc... something like that???

Backstabbed them because they backed out of your little groupie group??

Then to your little hearts delight, the moment of your day. Didn't you just celebrate darling? You notice Deborah took off bashing me again so you got all happy and jumped back on the band wagon ?hahaha

Sure you like Deborah and anyone else as long as they bash me.Do you think they really like you? As much as you like them !
What happened when one of you ever stops apologises? Attack each other like hungry wolves.
haha

Some friends you all are to each other.lol

Now April are you honored to have me post just for you .Make your day?

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#36 Consumer Comment

Debra's email to me

AUTHOR: April - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 17, 2006

I really wish I had kept the couple emails she originally sent me. I do have a lovely one sent to me on April 4th, though.

Shortly after she has been exposed on this site, I wrote her an email that said:

Mon, 3 Apr 2006 01:02:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: april
Subject: Rip off Report
To: babydollpups

>Hi Debra,
>Remember me? The person you attacked as being >unethical for wanting Dawn to supply AKC papers >that her website promised come with her dogs?
>
>How does it feel to be the scum of the earth, >and now have everyone know about it?
>
>*smile*

She wrote me back to say that she didn't remember me, which was even more offensive than the orginally emails, in my estimation. I wrote her back and said 'So you must send so many nasty emails to people that you don't even remember, Huh?'

To which she replied:

>April
>
>You are very wrong about how I feel. If you >really knew you would be very ashamed.One way I >feel is embarassed for you.You ever see someone >stoop over and show their butt by accident? That >stooper is you.
>I do not live in fear of what a man may say or >do to me. I sleep well at night.
>
>Haven't you noticed the months go by without my >reply to any report? I was just in the mood >recently to have a say and i enjoyed setting >the lies straight .If you notice my replies, >they are calm and not emotional.Do they show me >to be upset or beside myself ? Not at all.
>
>Watch the news dear. There are mothers mourning >beloved sons who have died in the war. Didnt you >recently hear the news of Dana Reeve dying of >lung cancer ?In the whole scope of the world and >my life, do you really think you are so >important to me? That you could possibly affect >me?
>
> I feel blessed to have my grown children who >have never ever been in trouble and straight >A's, honor rolls, and as young adults they are >respectful of authority and other people.I cant >take all the credit since I was always a well >behaved kid and maybe it is in the genes, but I >did raise these kids for many , many years all >by myself .
>If all parents could raise their children so >well then maybe the world would be a safer place.
>
>You and your friends thrive off the lives of >others and get high by trying to push others >down.
>Well I'm up dear, not down.
>
>So re-think your smile at the end of your email. >If you knew how I felt and how other mature >adults would feel over your way of enjoying >life , your cheeks would blush bright red and >ytou would certainly feel very ashamed.
> .
>.Most of us in the US have such a good life , >you need to appreciate what you have and focus >on your family and what is good in the world.
>There is sooo mcuh you can do in life ! Get >married. Have kids.Get a job. Rescue a sick >animals, volunteer to help in the senior >centers >and feel proud of yourself . You >really >need it.
>
>If tomorrow brings another Rip-off report, so be >it. It isn't the end of my world dear ,but I can >see that it is a big bright star in your >world .That really shows how alone and lonely >you are.
>
>Debra

For someone she doesnt even remember, she sure does have a lot to say!

As she wrote on this website, she did send me an apology after this, although it means nothing. She isnt really sorry about anything or she would have given me an apology when she first did it. Funny how the apology comes when she needs something. She's trying to garner support anywhere she can get it.

Well Debra ... Keep looking because you're not going to find it in my backyard.

As for her attacking me ... She hasnt yet and I really dont think she would dare. Something tells me she knows how much fun I would have eating her for dinner.

Oh, and Debra ... why don't you grow a soul and stop attacking people who have done nothing to you. To go and defame an innocent breeder (Jen Wartena) just to use as leverage is evil on so many different levels.

Shame on you.

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#35 Consumer Comment

Don't worry about it April

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, April 14, 2006

April please do not worry, I was even fooled when I first read it. Once I read it a few times, I could tell it was fake. She also wrote up reports about me. The funny thing is she thinks I am the master mind behind Debbie (Canada) but Debbie is one smart cookie and is able to take care of herself. Debra has gone up against some breeders in Sacramento and boy did I learn a few things lately. She wrote reports on me and I am dying to see the proof. I am expecting a report from me but not really by me. I have contacted Ripoffreport about the fake reports and also the email provider and will be pursuing this legally. I am not sure at this point if we can all get together as my claims are much different then any of yours.

I am truly sorry this has happened to you all, I never in my wildest dreams realized the depth of the situation until talking to other local breeders lately and seeing all these reports come to light. She thinks I stoop to her level and am filing false reports, NOT. I would not need to do that as there are plenty filing themselves. I am sure any reports that have been reported are all factual. I do question Bella since we have not seen any proof, we know you are real and Jenn is real and Jodie is real and Debbie in Canada is real. I would still like to see the nasty emails she sent you if you still have them just for a giggle of course. BUT if she has threatened you in anyway, we may have a case together.

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#34 Consumer Comment

More to the Sacramento Breeder story then what is stated

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, April 14, 2006

OOPSY! I got a bit curious about this story of the poor little precious show quality puppy sold on a spay contract. I should of known there was more to this story. I contacted this so called "Breeder Basher" to find out she is one of the most respected show breeders in Sacramento and was confirmed this by a local club. I got a totally different story then the one Debra keeps claiming happened. I hope to build a relationship with the 2 I spoke to and get some wonderful mentoring from them. I will not quote anything at this point but it sure set my mind at ease knowing the whole story. I will say there was no signed spay contract!!

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#33 Consumer Comment

An Apology

AUTHOR: April - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, April 13, 2006

I felt I should come on here and apologize for my earlier post about Deborah and Jodie.

I thought that they had both been offered money or a puppy to come on Rip Off Report and proclaim Debra's good breeding practices. I thought that since Deborah had forgiven her once and had become friends with her, that the posibility that that both women had taken bribes was likely. When both Deborah and Jodie didnt come back to post rebuttals on those posts, I assumed I was right. (I'm still not sure why they haven't called Debra out on her fraud, but oh well).

It turns out, from Deborah's latest post, that she did not write those comments, and Jodie probably never wrote her post either.

I'm sorry to both ladies for being harsh and making a quick judgement. I guess even *I* never thought that Debra would go as far as she did to impersonate you both on this website.

Instead of being angry for her latest fraud, all I can muster up is a feeling of sadness for her.
She is such a poor excuse for a human - what a way to waste a life.

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#32 REBUTTAL Individual responds

RESPONSE TO APRIL CORRECTION

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 11, 2006

I meant to say I will try to forgive JODIE and compare all of JODIES horrible posts to the email I sent to April .

I have already apologized to April through personal email to her and also online for hurting her feelings with my email.
April holds grudges.

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#31 Consumer Comment

Debra Vs. Deborah

AUTHOR: Cassandra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 11, 2006

I have been looking for a small puppy for my granddaughter, one that she can dress up and easily tote around with her. I am an English teacher in our local highschool. In my search I decided to do a background check on specific breeders. Several items were brought to my attention while reading these reports. I feel I should share my observations with readers.

Deborah has obviously undergone a drastic (and might I say pleasing) change in the correct use of grammar as well as typing skills since her first report. Proper punctuation, use of capital letters, spelling and clarity are now evident in her posts. What has been brought to my attention is her last post. She has reverted back to inproper use of the keyboard and there are glaring spelling errors. Spacing between sentences are used incorrectly. These errors are consistent with Debra's numerous posts and replies.

Examples of Debra's typing are as follows: us , NOT
terms.Anyone
3000$
puppy.Let
contract ?
mess.they
doing,I
puppy.I hope
emails , so
menatl
medicenes

These errors are consistent with Deborah's last posting. In conclusion, it is my belief that Deborah did not write that final posting.

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#30 REBUTTAL Individual responds

RESPONSE TO APRIL

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 10, 2006

Dear April

Concerning Jodie, All I did was reserve a puppy for several weeks, have the puppy Vet checked and found a lux and informed the buyer right away like any good breeder would. The buyer wanted either the puppy and 75% of refund or she wanted me to give her a refund, both options are NOT IN THE CONTRACT SHE SIGNED. I expected my contract to be followed and once my Contract was turned into a worthless paper I became somewhat lost and tried to get the buyer to follow the contract. Email me if you wish to see the contract I gave the buyer.If my contract had been abided by then the buyer would have chosen another puppy.

I did refund the buyer except for the non-refundable deposit and I was told to keep that by the buyer and I did.

You are upset that I am innocent here .You just cant stand that.

I never even sold a puppy to you!!! You say I emailed you a rude letter supporting the breeder who sold the puppy to you. So you placed your report under me even though I am not your breeder.I guess my email hurt your feelings more then the relationship with your breedere burt you.. I sent you an email of apology recently and I also posted an apology online.What more can I do.You choose not to forgive me .I cant force you to.Life is short April and hate is bad for the soul.

I will try to forgive April and look at the HORRIBLE HORRIBLE POSTS she made on me! These posts will be here FOREVER . Compare Jodies posts to the one rude letter I sent to you long ago and you cant forgive me?????

Debra from Manteca

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#29 Consumer Comment

Last post ... when you lie down with dogs, expect to get bit.

AUTHOR: April - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 09, 2006

To everybody reading these reports, you should read the last 2 posts from Deborah and Jodie and recognize them for what they are - a trade off (and a sell out).

To Jodie and Deborah:

Do you really believe that after all your posts people arent going to see through that?? It is a shame that you ladies are willing to sell yourself and other potential buyers a bad hand just to get a free puppy or reimbursement. Shame on you both.

How does it feel to know that the public either sees you as morally bankrupt for trading a fake post of niceties for something in return, or else completely dishonest and hateful from your earlier posts?

It has to be one of the other, doesn't it?

This will also be my last time posting on this topic as well. I feel uncomfortable amoung a bunch of women who has more in common that they think.

Remember, don't post your new rip off report when her promises once again don't come through for you ... when you lie down with dogs, expect to get bit.

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#28 Consumer Comment

I am sorry too

AUTHOR: Jodie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 09, 2006

Hi this is jodie the ome who started it all. I too am sorry. Debra did not steal or theive or lie or cheat from me.I was upste since she sold swan and i missed out on her. I read other reports about Debra and made my comments based om those reports. I wish I had swan. She was a precious darling. I am jealous that I do not have her with me. Please forget all the reports that were written by me.

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#27 Consumer Comment

Truth

AUTHOR: Deborah - (Canada)

POSTED: Saturday, April 08, 2006

The comments I sent in today are wrong.I did become frineds with Debra.We do email. I shouldnt comment on this ripoff since an agreement was signed , Debra did mention my name her but she said nothing bad about me.All true words .I have asked ripoff to remove this post but they willnot-I will keep trying. I do not know the people here.I need to mind my own business and Debra did give my money back.Today Debra emialed me for a tiny exotic puppy,she meant me to have.Debra is not a racist ,that was unfair and backstabbing. I said Debra is evil and a theif. Not true. I am angry because Debra posted the emial I wrote.Ihad not told my friends about it and they are angry.My friend has not emailed since, so I wrote mean hateful words about Debra so she can forgive me .

I will not be posting here again.
Thank-you

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#26 REBUTTAL Individual responds

SECOND REQUEST FOR JENN TO CONTACT ME

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 08, 2006

JENN
My first letter to you was very long winded about some breeders who are bashing me and my fear that you are one of them..

I asked for you to contact me and give me your email address so i can do an email search of our emails .

I just want to remember you and make sure you are real and not a breeder making a fake report.I fyou indeed sis deal with me then shouldnt I have the right to request proof. I will certainly apologize and beg your pardon if I am mistaken.

Perhaps you had a non-refundable deposit on a puppy naked Timmy and then you backed out and I kept your deposit?? Check our dog breeder sites.ALL breeders I can see have non-refundable deposits.

Why are you not willing to contact me and tell me who you are? I sold Timmy to a family in IOWA. Did you have a deposit on him and then back out?

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SECOND REQUEST FOR JENN TO CONTACT ME

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 08, 2006

JENN
My first letter to you was very long winded about some breeders who are bashing me and my fear that you are one of them..

I asked for you to contact me and give me your email address so i can do an email search of our emails .

I just want to remember you and make sure you are real and not a breeder making a fake report.I fyou indeed sis deal with me then shouldnt I have the right to request proof. I will certainly apologize and beg your pardon if I am mistaken.

Perhaps you had a non-refundable deposit on a puppy naked Timmy and then you backed out and I kept your deposit?? Check our dog breeder sites.ALL breeders I can see have non-refundable deposits.

Why are you not willing to contact me and tell me who you are? I sold Timmy to a family in IOWA. Did you have a deposit on him and then back out?

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#24 REBUTTAL Individual responds

SECOND REQUEST FOR JENN TO CONTACT ME

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 08, 2006

JENN
My first letter to you was very long winded about some breeders who are bashing me and my fear that you are one of them..

I asked for you to contact me and give me your email address so i can do an email search of our emails .

I just want to remember you and make sure you are real and not a breeder making a fake report.I fyou indeed sis deal with me then shouldnt I have the right to request proof. I will certainly apologize and beg your pardon if I am mistaken.

Perhaps you had a non-refundable deposit on a puppy naked Timmy and then you backed out and I kept your deposit?? Check our dog breeder sites.ALL breeders I can see have non-refundable deposits.

Why are you not willing to contact me and tell me who you are? I sold Timmy to a family in IOWA. Did you have a deposit on him and then back out?

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#23 REBUTTAL Individual responds

SECOND REQUEST FOR JENN TO CONTACT ME

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 08, 2006

JENN
My first letter to you was very long winded about some breeders who are bashing me and my fear that you are one of them..

I asked for you to contact me and give me your email address so i can do an email search of our emails .

I just want to remember you and make sure you are real and not a breeder making a fake report.I fyou indeed sis deal with me then shouldnt I have the right to request proof. I will certainly apologize and beg your pardon if I am mistaken.

Perhaps you had a non-refundable deposit on a puppy naked Timmy and then you backed out and I kept your deposit?? Check our dog breeder sites.ALL breeders I can see have non-refundable deposits.

Why are you not willing to contact me and tell me who you are? I sold Timmy to a family in IOWA. Did you have a deposit on him and then back out?

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Contact jenn

AUTHOR: Jenn - (Canada)

POSTED: Saturday, April 08, 2006

OK i have learned you cant post your info on here.

Those needing to contact me may do so through the ad post web site do a search for vampyremystik.

i have a few adsposted on there one for birds one for a small tan chi i was selling a while back.

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#21 Author of original report

This is jenn.

AUTHOR: Jenn - (Canada)

POSTED: Saturday, April 08, 2006

I am Jenn. I do not know anyone on here personally or with some gang style agenda for deb. I am not in cahoots with any other breeder. I live in sherwood park alberta. Those who wish to verify me or speak to me on the phone to verify my info may e.mail me personally

I have 5 chihuahuas 2 kids and 1 african grey.
I ONLY POSTED ON HERE TO WARN PEOPLE SO THEY DIDNT LOSE MONEY THEY COULDNT AFFORD TO LOSE AS I DID.

DEB DID CHANGE OUR CONTRACT THEN SHE BACKED OUT AND \KEPT MY MONEY. I GOT OVER IT I DO NOT WANT ANY CREDIT WITH DEB I RECCOMEND STRONGLY AGAINST BUYING FROM HER ON HERE AND IN MY OWN CHIHUAHUA COMMUNITY. I FEEL AWFUL FOR ALL THE TERRIBLE THINGS SHE DID TO YOU PEOPLE. I WILL TELL MY STORY TO ANYONE WHO NEEDS IT FOR ANY REASON.
However that being said i have told my story on here and would appreciate anyone who sees fit to trust that my story is accurate and imnot just trying to "Side" with people to screw another person. I beleive in karma people like deb will eventually realize what you give is what you get returned"

Good luck to everyone whos still fighting for money or a dug back.

u can see some of my pups on i trust you all to not leave rude unnessesary comments.

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.

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#20 Consumer Comment

Debbie and Gomez

AUTHOR: Deborah - (Canada)

POSTED: Saturday, April 08, 2006

Hello everyone.

First off let me apologise for taking so long to come forward. I have been following very closely. I am not going to go over my story again. It is all here to read. But here is an update.

April:

You are perfectly correct when you say I have been 'muzzled'. Debra and I signed a mutual agreement in January. One of the clauses said I am not allowed to post anything online with regard to Chidolls, Debra Drury and all other names and associates involved. For some reason Sugar N Spice was also part of that contract. I am not sure why Dawn was included in that release but I agreed. In return, Debra and associates were bound to the same terms. There were to be no comments about me online.

Debra is in breach of contract since she posted an email here on ripoff this past week. As well, she has written other comments about me here.

When Debra and I came to our agreement, we agreed that it was due to 'missing emails'. I agreed to go along with that. It did not matter to me one way or another how it was explained so long as I received a refund. I paid $3500.00USD plus $365.00USD for shipping. Then about another $1000.00CDN on medical bills. NOT $3000.00USD as she stated here in this report.

I was (and am) content with our agreement. Debra also went 'above and beyond' and offered me a FREE little female puppy that I really wanted. I immediately declined her offer. I felt a refund of purchase price and medical bills was fair enough. I thanked her profusely for her offer. Since then, Debra offered me a $1500.00USD credit then dropped it to $1200.00USD credit. Currently, I have a $1000.00USD credit for a puppy. The amount kept dropping as weeks went by. Over the past 3 months, I have inquired on 5-7 puppies. Either the puppy was sold, not hers but a family members, or she was keeping it. One that she was keeping, was sold the next week. Can you believe she emailed me and told me she had sold her? I was very unhappy. This past week, Debra offered me Powder. He is a little male on her site. I declined due to his being a boy. Then I inquired on Candace. Not the nicest looking pup. She said I could have her but she didnt really think she was for me. Gonna be too large. Never the less, I sent numerous emails asking questions about her. I have had no response in at least 3 days. So I guess that is her answer. No pup for me.

Ladies, please understand that when I agreed to the settlement, I thought mine was an isolated case. I had no idea that there were others. No one (except April) had come forward during my 6 months of hell. April was content to pay for the expenses related to the LUX of her puppy. She had made her decision and I respected that. April used ripoff to warn others about what happened to her and did not want to proceed further.

I did establish a relationship with Debra. I am not able to hold a grudge. I had Gomez, I had the money and according to Debra, a puppy as well when I chose one. I think that a buyer must have contact with their breeder. Diet, size, personality, training techniques are critical to a happy household. I would go to Debra with questions. She would respond in kind. Debra told me some personal information that broke my heart. She also advised me she was receiving hate mail and threats from people. She asked me to write her an email to send to these people so they would leave her alone. I did. You can read a portion of it on my report. It was never my intent for people to threaten anyone. I just wanted people to know of my 'difficulties'.


Jodie:

I saw the contract you signed with Debra. It clearly states that the contract was for SWAN ONLY. Not another pup. As well, there was a clause added that stated you would receive a full refund. I cant rmember the specific details. I think it would be a very good idea to post that contract here on ripoff.

I also saw video of Swan. My untrained eye immediately noticed the marked limp on her hind left leg. Clearly, Swan needed some form of medical intervention. As you stated, a 4 month old puppy with Grade 3 LUX is in very bad shape. LUX usually doesn't appear so early. Grade 4 is crippled. How anyone could be expected to purchase a pup for $3500.00USD with a Grade 3 LUX absolutely baffles me. Surgery is very expensive. I wish Lisa the very best of luck with Swan.

Same as my situation, you were advised of trouble AFTER she cashed final payment. I am positive Swan didn't start limping 3 days after she cashed the money order. The difference between you and I is that she was honest with you as to the severity of Swan's difficulties. With Gomez, it was all not an outright "He is sick". I eceived an email stating she was watching him closely because he had a dime sized molera. Which of course is normal in a chi pup. I had no idea until I saw him for the first time that he was a very, very ill baby. Once again, it was obvious to the untrained eye that Gomez had/has severe troubles.


Bella:

You say you were told to go to Mexico to purchase a puppy due to your being Mexican. I believe she said that. Debra told me that she treated me the way she did is because I am Canadian. These racial/geographical comments are not only hurtful, but illegal.

Jenn:

When your report appeared, I was accused by Debra of being the writer. Can you please add some emails? With the date and time still on them?

As with me, you have a credit. However, your credit is different than mine. I have an offer. With no money out of my hands for the aggravation and humiliation at Debra's hands. Debra has your money. So what if the pup you are inquiring about is a friends or relatives? All she needs to do is give the owner the money. Right? Voila. No problem. What you are describing is outright theft. Again, against the law.

I am writing today to verify the truth of these reports. I have not seen any documentation from these ladies, but it has all happened to me as well.

1. Racial discrimination.
2. Offer of credit for puppy. Just to be told each and every time a new reason why I cannot have that particular pup.
3. A very unhealthy puppy shipped to me. Now don't get me wrong. I love Gomez with all of my heart. Even with his severe disability, he is perfect in my eyes. As I stated in that email.
4. Months of nasty, hateful emails.

After Debra posted the email I wrote on ripoff, I was livid. I wrote her an email and told her I no longer consider our release signed and dated in January 2006 to be a valid document. Debra begged me to not get involved. She sent me numerous emails that she was asking ripoff to remove that post. Once again, my temper cooled and I was wishy, washy. However, since then, she has written about me AGAIN.

It has taken me some time to decide what to do. I am opening myself up to more stress and humiliation with this post. I figure I will never see a female puppy from Debra anyway so I guess I don't lose anything there.

My conscience has been bothering me since these posts started. I need to live with myself and by staying quiet and allowing you all to go through this by yourselves is unacceptable to me. I need to maintain my integrity and self respect. As do all of you. Stay true to yourself, state your facts and feelings. Try not to fall into the fighting trap here on ripoff.

My heart goes out to each and every one of you. I guess I am the fortunate one in the longrun.

Debbie and Gomez

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#19 Consumer Suggestion

Debra response to April or should i say lies?

AUTHOR: Jodie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 04, 2006

If you do not know anything about it then why in the hell did you stick your nose in it and send April nasty emails? Is this how a professional person operates? She clearly has no idea of the situation between the other breeder and April, yet she sends nasty emails. April, POST the emails if you don't mind. Lets see how uninvolved Debra was.

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I have contacted all appropriate agencies

AUTHOR: Jodie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 04, 2006

Hey

Thanks for your advice, i have contatced the bbb, att. gen office, usps, animal control, her local police, they are all working it up.

I am not the only one she has done this too, the DA is very very very intertesed in her..

To all the others, Jen , Bella,Debbie, whoever else PLEASE contact the DA office in San Joaquin CA.

This right here is from one of Debras emails..
chidolls@
Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:29 PM
Re: If you want Swan I have to have a lawyer draft a contract

"No Jodie. We have a contract and you need to abide by it period. Either you want the puppy with the dislousure and sign the new contract given and accept her or you dont and you pick another puppy. Or loose your money."

Period!!!!!!!

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#17 Consumer Comment

Mail fraud is a federal offense

AUTHOR: Wontcha - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 04, 2006

You all need to get together and get a class action lawsuit. Contact the attorney generals office about mail fraud. IF you pay for something with a PO money order and did not get in return what you paid, that is mail fraud. Contact the post office they have a form to fill out and submit. Once all of you do this then they will send out a private investigator to her house. She will be liable for all travel expense you all incur as well. Jodie, just because your emails state she can keep the 500.00 does not make you not eligible. Show all your emails and if she ever stated you would not get your money back then you can say you were under duress so you agreed in fear of not getting any of your money back. These breeders who think they can strong arm you are just plain losers. Find a breeder who uses "puppy Escrow"

Good luck to you ladies, I am sure there are plenty more who do not even know about ripoffreport.com. I do not think Ripoffreport will let you post emails but how about instant messenger ids? can you list yours if you have one? Time for all of you ladies to talk!!!

Also contact the DAs office in her county. Let them know there are more stories coming.

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#16 REBUTTAL Individual responds

RESPONSE TO APRIL

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 04, 2006

It appears that my information source regarding the dog you purchased from another breeder may not be correct.

Since I did not sell you the dog and really dont know much about what happened I should not have posted anything .

April states says she bought a male chihuahua from a breeder and since i do not have all the facts I should not have disputed what she said. My apologies to April.

Debra

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Debra, you are so full of it!! other breeders are just repulsed by what you do... they know what you are... a PUPPYMILL..!!

AUTHOR: Jodie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 03, 2006

Debra

You are so Full of crap... other breeders are just repulsed by what you do... they know what you are... a PUPPYMILL..!!

You sound insane; stating other breeders are out to get you since you wont give into their demands, please........ I am sure if they are "out to get you" it is to shut you down... End your puppymill reign!!!!!!

It seems like you have quite the hate fan club, isnt hard to see why, is it??

DO THE RIGHT thing, try to change your reputation. Stop screwing people.. Get off your lazy behind, stop making your dogs do all your work!!!!!!!

You are your own worst enemy..

By the way, Jenn appears not to have backed out, it appears as though you did the same thimg to her that you did to me.. tell her she had months to pay for the pup, then out of the blue tell her she has 4 days or the pup is sold.. that Debra is not breaking your contract, that is stealing people money.... You had a VERBAL agreement with her,i am sure as you did with me.. You backed out of it, give her the money back.. do you feel good keeping something that does not belong to you, you wonder why i called you a theif, thats why!!!! you have 700.00 that does not belong to you, that is stealing, people who steal are theifs.... so sue me Debra for telling the truth.. Sue everyone while you are at it, since everyome is just out to get you and none of us are tellim the truth.......

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#14 Consumer Comment

timmy 3000 canadian dollars

AUTHOR: Jenn - (Canada)

POSTED: Monday, April 03, 2006

timmy was 3000 bye the time i got him shipped to canada . im sorry if i said u.s for that part i did send 200 us deposit and after i worked out shipping and currency conversion he was 3000 canadian dollars.

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#13 Consumer Suggestion

Debra the LIAR part 2

AUTHOR: Jodie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 03, 2006

Debra

No one is trying to destroy your reputation, you are doing it all by yourself

If you cared so much for the sick and limping why did you not just reduce Swan's price so I could get her fixed

I am sure who ever you think threatened you was just going to reveal more truth about you.

If you cared more for the dogs you brought into this world instead of the cats, maybe you would not have so many pissed of customers.

If a person's name is so important to you then why do you continually drag yours in the dirt.

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#12 REBUTTAL Individual responds

DEPOSITS- WHO IS JENN ? - BREEDERS BASHING BREEDERS

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 03, 2006

Hello,

Your post contained a comment that could have only come from me and one breeder i know that hates me and any of her friends that she shared the comment with.Also you mention Timmy was 3000$. I sold him to a woman in Iowa for 1500$.So I would live to see a copy of the money order you say you have.I would like your email address so I can do a search and find your emails. I save emails going back over a year.

If you truly are a customer who sent us a deposit to reserve a puppy then we would have reserved the puppy for YOU. Deposits are nonrefundable if the customer backs out, so if I kept the 200$ deposit you must have backed out.
It is a common breeder policy, not just mine.

I know a couple breeders who keep my head spinning as they pretend to be customers and they have attacked me for years for not giving in to an unfair request they made of me.

They have posted many lies online about me.Some of their customers have come to me to buy puppies and they have told me the nasty statements these breeders have said.That was a couple years ago, and the breeder attacks have escalated to online slander,libel involving their friends who also email me pretneding to be customers.I have been able to trace some of the emails back to the breeder websites.

It all started when a friend of Sacremento area breeder bought a tiny show quality female puppy from me for 600$ (prices were much lower a few years ago) as a PET with NO PAPERS AND CONTRACTED TO SPAY.As the puppy grew the Breeder felt the puppy was a beauty and told her friend to ask me for AKC papers so they could breed her. I told the friend that I had sold the puppy on a contract to spay and I would not give AKC papers on her.The breeder then made up a story saying her friend had a promisary note from me stating that I promised AKC papers. I told the breeder that wasn't true and she was making up a story and it was rediculous. SHE THEN SPILLED THE BEANS AND SAID SHE HAD ALREADY BRED MY LITTLE GIRL TO HER CHAMPION MALE STUD AND MY LITTLE GIRL WAS DUE TO WHELP IN TWO WEEKS . As if that was reason for me to give her AKC papers? I was so upset that a breeder who is so strict with spay and neuter on her own puppies would turn around and breed my little girl who I contracted for spay in a PET HOME.
I told the breeder that it was a shame that she would breed my little girl who was sold contracted to be spayed.The breeder became enraged and called me every foul name you can think of.For over a YEAR she often left nasty messages on my answering machine and I had to stop using an answering machine.. I have lived a nightmare off and on for over 3 years because of the local and online abuse from her and her friends.
This breeder and her breeder friend have STRICT SPAY AND NEUTER POLICIES posted all over their websites. When it came to my puppy they didn't care.I refused to give in to them and give them a breeding paper on the female and they have hated me since.

So if you are really a customer, I am sorry you feel abused me and I will be happy to give you 400$ credit on a little boy puppy from me.

It is common policiy for breeders not to return deposits if customers back out.I am thinking of changing that part of my contract to allow the deposit to be used as a credit if the customer backs out due to an emergency.

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#11 Consumer Comment

Typical Debra Lies ...

AUTHOR: April - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 03, 2006

I have only owned one Chihuahua in my life, and that is Tyler, the male chihuahua I bought from Dawn Dalyce. He did have costly double luxating patellar surgery.

Do you really think anyone is going to be fooled by all of your lies??? All these people just have something against you for no reason right.

LOSER!

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#10 Consumer Suggestion

Debra the LIAR

AUTHOR: Jodie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 03, 2006

Debra
Give it up, you STOLE 500.00 from me, 200.00 from Jenn....

You have sooooooo many horrible write ups.. please who would believe you???

You sold Debbie a Hydro dog... what is wrong with you, she was a liar too, right????

You sold other people dogs with Mange, giarida, etc.. they are liars too, right??>?

For the last time CA puppy lemon law outweighs any breeders contract...

Tell the truth DEBRA, why did i pass on Swaan?? you would mot sell her to me !!!!! refused.. i had to sign a brand new one im order for you to semd her to me!!!!!! you stole my momey amd my dog!!!!!!!!!

You refumded all but 500.00 after my lawyer was writimg you a lettter!!! You had my momey amd dog for weeks amd would mot semd me either, that is you beimg a theif, you have my 500.00 you forced me to accept that deal.. what other choice did I have..?? just like you forced me to semd the paymets earlier tham discussed!!!! so who LIES?/ YOU DOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

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TImmy

AUTHOR: Jenn - (Canada)

POSTED: Monday, April 03, 2006

DEB YOU ARE A LIAR . TIMMY WAS A TINY BLACK MALE THIS WAS NOT EVEN A YEAR AGO.... I EVEN SPOKE TO YOU ON THE PHONE NUMEROUS TIMES I EVEN HAVE A RECEIPT FROM THE MONEY ORDER I SENT YOU FOR 200 AMERICAN DOLLARS. BUT YOU ARE RIGHT YOU NEVER SOLD HIM TO SOMEONE IN CANADA . YOU STOLE MY DEPOSIT AND SOLD HIM TO SOMEONE ELSE. YOU DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT POSTING MY NAME I ALREADY HAVE DONE SO.I AM NOT IN A BREEDING BUISNESS SO YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO IDEA WHO I AM.TO DATE I HAVE HAD ONE LITTER IN 7 YEARS . I HAVE NUMEROUS PET CHIS. SPAYED AND SOLELY PETS. I AM NOT RUNNING A BREEDING BUISNESS. I ACTUALLY EVEN HAVE A PIC OF THIS PUPPY STILL ON MY COMP IF YOU LIKE I WILL E.MAIL THAT TO YOU . MAYBE IT WILL JOG THAT SEEMINGLY BAD MEMORY OF YOURS. STOP SCREWING HONEST PEOPLE AND MAYBE YOU WONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CHECKNG ON HERE SO OFTEN TO SEE WHOS TALKING NOW.

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#8 REBUTTAL Individual responds

JODIE OBRIEN IS LYING. Told us to keep deposit !Told us to RESELL Swan!

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 03, 2006

Please see emails below which show the truth. Jodie REQUESTED WE RESELL SWAN. JODIE ALSO TOLD US TO KEEP THE DEPOSIT. Why is Jodie attacking us? Could it be that she is angry that we found a loving home for Swan within 48 hours of Jodie giving Swan up?

Re: swan
Date: 3/2/2006 7:47:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: jodie160
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To: Chidolls

....sell her and refund me 3000.00 we will call it evem, you made a extra 500.00 for all the hassle..
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Date: 3/4/2006 1:34:25 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: jodie160
Reply To:
To: Chidolls
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thanks, feelimg better, wish my keyboard would work..
whenever the check clears just send me the 3000.00 as you get 500.00 per our agreememt ;-) hope it is mice i CA today, very cold cold cold here!!! i wish i could live there... how nice it would be to have summer 365 LOL.. what is the temp there today?? it is about 32 here brrrrrrrr ;-) thks! jodie

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#7 REBUTTAL Individual responds

WE ARE NOT THE BREEDER OF APRILS PUPPY

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 03, 2006

Please read the report again from APRIL. I never sold her a puppy. She bought her puppy from another breeder. NOT FROM ME.

I know the breeder who sold April the puppy and I asked her about the sale. I do not know why April placed the report under me. had nothing to do with that sale.

I asked and found that April bought a FEMALE puppy from the breeder. The female puppy did NOT have surgery of any kind. April's post is intentionally misleading to make you think it was the FEMALE that had the surgery for defects.

April already had a MALE CHIHUHUA bought from who knows who. The MALE is the one who had the surgery April speaks of.

Debras

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STOP YOUR LIES DEBRA

AUTHOR: Jodie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 02, 2006

You are crazy.. you think people are going to make stuff up?? get real, you screwed me, i am proof, you scrwed April she is proof, you screwed Debbie, she is proof,now you screwed Jen as well, what are we all liars?????? I cant wait to see who else you have screwed.. You owe me 500.00 Debra, you did not mention that in your other response, did you?? Come clean Debra, people will have respect for you!!! offer a 24 hour money back guarantee like a lot of reputable breeders do, if your dogs are so great, why would anyone want to return one?? Why are you so hard up to give people their money back for your mistakes and breeding dogs with genetic problems??? And dont try to hide behind your contract, that is not the law, you should try to follow the law Debra, CA puppy law is the law.. you are not in charge of makimg laws, hate to tell you that,, be homest refund my 500.00 and the money you owe jen.... is it nice to keep soemthi that does mto belomg to you?/ that is called stealing DEBRA

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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Breeders bashing Breeders- Fake report written by a breeder

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 02, 2006

This report is fake.I never sold a puppy named Timmy to anyone in Canada.

I know the breeder who wrote this fake report but
I am under threat of more online attacks if I reveal her name .

It is important for you to know that breeders and their friends will launch massive online attacks to destroy the reputation of other breeders.

I am a person who rescues limping or sick animals off the street and I take them in for treatment and surgeries and then I find homes for them once I nurse them back to health..I even pay the bills of pets left at Vets offices for weeks too long. whose owners dont come back for them because they can't pay the bill..So I pay it.

My Veterinarians , Davis University know how i take animals off the streets and pay out of my own pocket to save them and nurse them back to health .I have never ever been paid for the care or treament of an animal I have taken off the street and spent hundreds on to heal. I spent 3500$ December 2004 on a kitten that I took from a family in front of Wallmart .It was obviouslly in distress and I ran her to an Emergency Clinic and was advised to put her down ,but I took her to Davis instead and she had a team of 4 surgeons and blood transfusions and had the best chance.

My credit cards are maxed due to doing this.
I have never done rescues for a pat on the back or for a dime.Not Ever.

I dont know if I should have even come on to defend myself. A persons name is very important. Please email me and let me know what you think.
Should I just ignore such terrible reports and not speak up?

Debra from Babydollpups

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All her chihuahuas chihuahua are from puppy mills...

AUTHOR: Jodie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 01, 2006

Hey sorry you had to go through the same type of deal. Debra is a evil person, imagine how much money she makes off of people this way??? I am sure you and I are just the tip of the iceberg. She is just a chihuahua puppymill. I heard she has another site where she sells other breeds also!! I hope more people reply!! Perhaps we could start a class action suit? PLEASE come forward if anyone else has had horrible times with Debra!

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All her chihuahuas chihuahua are from puppy mills...

AUTHOR: Jodie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 01, 2006

Hey sorry you had to go through the same type of deal. Debra is a evil person, imagine how much money she makes off of people this way??? I am sure you and I are just the tip of the iceberg. She is just a chihuahua puppymill. I heard she has another site where she sells other breeds also!! I hope more people reply!! Perhaps we could start a class action suit? PLEASE come forward if anyone else has had horrible times with Debra!

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All her chihuahuas chihuahua are from puppy mills...

AUTHOR: Jodie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 01, 2006

Hey sorry you had to go through the same type of deal. Debra is a evil person, imagine how much money she makes off of people this way??? I am sure you and I are just the tip of the iceberg. She is just a chihuahua puppymill. I heard she has another site where she sells other breeds also!! I hope more people reply!! Perhaps we could start a class action suit? PLEASE come forward if anyone else has had horrible times with Debra!

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

All her chihuahuas chihuahua are from puppy mills...

AUTHOR: Jodie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 01, 2006

Hey sorry you had to go through the same type of deal. Debra is a evil person, imagine how much money she makes off of people this way??? I am sure you and I are just the tip of the iceberg. She is just a chihuahua puppymill. I heard she has another site where she sells other breeds also!! I hope more people reply!! Perhaps we could start a class action suit? PLEASE come forward if anyone else has had horrible times with Debra!

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