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Complaint Review: Chris Pearce - Brisbane Select State/Province

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Chris Pearce Of Australia is A Con Artist And A Fraud !

He is a confidence man that needs to be exposed and I will post to all of the other sites like (((Redacted))) .

Do not get involved with Chris Pearce of Brisbane Australia. He has been running all of the internet trying to rope people into to has cash money making systems via email.

First you pay him $500.00 then he will put you on his email list with a circlular that he mails out that will generate thousands for you and the payments will flood your Paypal account with $20.00 bills. I fell for his trick and he ripped me off for $500.00. I have found at least 30 other people that have fallen for his scheme which by my calculations is around $15,000.00 which goes way past Grand Larceny.

I have sent him email after email and his story is always the same. He Says " Don't Worry Thing Will Start To Pick Up Soon". He always has an excuse for EVERYTHING!

I can afford to lose $500.00 however most cannot. I only tried his deal to see if he could perform and deliver on what he said. Chris Pearce has been running multiple scams online since the beginning of this one which is the oldest scam on the internet.

Chris Pearce Of Brisbane Australia has been running at least 10 scam simultaneously preying on hundreds and stealing thousands.

So beware of Chris Pearce Of Brisbane Australia is quickly becoming a very big confidence man.

His newest is offering you a high dollar ticket item for cheap and then delivering a worthless peace of junk!

He also runs in the mlm arena and makes the claim that if you join his MLM Opportunity That He Will Build Your Team For You. I have seen at least 47 people saying that he promised them the world and then delivered nothing!

Chris Pearce,if you come accross this guy or any of his postings don't believe a word he says because he is the one starting all of these scams and then trying to keep his name clean.BUYER BEWARE !

Stay Away From Chris Pearce Of Brisbane Australia!

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#9 Consumer Comment

More on Todd Ash scams and his fraud, slander, and spamming with malicious intent

AUTHOR: Chrispy52 - (Australia)

POSTED: Sunday, February 01, 2009

Todd (i.e. Billionaire),

You really are a silly fellow. Go to the bottom of the screen and click on Terms of Service. Scroll down to no. 2 - Online Conduct. It says:

"You agree that:

You are solely responsible for the content or information you publish or display (hereinafter, "post") on ROR.

You will NOT post on ROR any defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, obscene, profane, offensive, threatening, harassing, racially offensive, or illegal material, or any material that infringes or violates another party's rights (including, but not limited to, intellectual property rights, and rights of privacy and publicity). You will use ROR in a manner consistent with any and all applicable laws and regulations. By posting information on ROR, you warrant and represent that the information is truthful and accurate."

Your posts are certainly not truthful or accurate, for example your opening post here is slanderous and complete fiction and you know it. Your posts are defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, offensive, threatening and harassing. There's no "B.S." in my posts - go to the sites I mention and you will see. Unlike your posts, I include evidence in mine.

Also, when you post, you click a box to say: "I attest this report is valid". Your posts are far from valid.

I've just emailed you a copy of your email to me confirming the payment of $84 (to the email address at toddash.com). I've included the Stormpay transaction id number. I actually have two emails from Stormpay, with subjects "Receipt for Payment" and "Order Confirmation". The "Receipt for Payment" email says: "This message serves as your Receipt for a payment you made to A.I. (stormpay@advertisingandselling.com)". I'm not sending you these two emails as they contain personal information (but may be sending them to the police). Todd, I have all the emails between yourself and myself. The only way I could have reached the payout threshold three times was to pay a membership. I don't know why you're bothering to pursue this line. You know that many people paid you a membership, and I don't believe you paid any of them when they reached the payout threshold. I'm not worried about the $84. As I've said many times, I'm pursing this issue because of the blatant lies you told the Better Business Bureau (BBB) (an organisation I realise you have scant regard for) when I first reported your scam, and because of your continual fraudulent posts. I know you're angry I've exposed your scams (plenty of others have done the same), but this wouldn't have happened if you had told a few truths. Had you told BBB that you're having a cash flow problem or something, rather than accusing me of various things, I probably never would have bothered taking it any further. All that's happening now is that there are more and more adverse web pages on you. Google "Todd Ash" or advertisingandselling or hydrogenoperated or "hydrogen operated", and you'll see what I mean.

I see you have started spamming me again with malicious intent. You spent best part of an hour sending me 20 emails, of which 16 need the receiver to click on a link to activate the ad/link. For the other four emails, I have emailed them back, explaining that you are arranging to put me on lists etc as payback for exposing your scams; I name advertisingandselling and hydrogenoperated; I also mentioned toddash.com and your email address. Perhaps they will contact you, and hopefully ban you. I may as well email the other 16 too, although there are a number of multiples. (Why link the ads to this Ripoff Report web page with its abundant evidence of your scams?)

Will Todd Ash ever stop pretending to be "Billionaire"?

chrispy52

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Chris Pearc Of Brisbane Australia

AUTHOR: Billionaire - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009

CHRIS PEARCE Of Australia Is A Conman !

CHRIS PEARCE,

Why don't you show the reciept of your payment to Todd Ash, once again to Todd Ash. You cannot produce any evidence that you ever paid him one single penny. That makes you a liar!You cannot produce 1 receipt ! Not 1 !

Oh and Todd Ash is violating what T.O.S. . You have no idea what you are talking about !

Chris Pearce You Are A Liar And A Conman ! CHRIS PEARCE everything you say is pure B.S. and I believe someone is paying you to write this crap.Don't be surprised when you get served. You have already been warned !

There is a storm coming and you will be the center of attention. You are about to make your internet debut! I can already see your name splashed from one side of the internet to the other , deep and wide !

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#7 Author of original report

Chris Pearc Of Brisbane Australia

AUTHOR: Billionaire - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009

CHRIS PEARCE Of Australia Is A Conman !

CHRIS PEARCE,

Why don't you show the reciept of your payment to Todd Ash, once again to Todd Ash. You cannot produce any evidence that you ever paid him one single penny. That makes you a liar!You cannot produce 1 receipt ! Not 1 !

Oh and Todd Ash is violating what T.O.S. . You have no idea what you are talking about !

Chris Pearce You Are A Liar And A Conman ! CHRIS PEARCE everything you say is pure B.S. and I believe someone is paying you to write this crap.Don't be surprised when you get served. You have already been warned !

There is a storm coming and you will be the center of attention. You are about to make your internet debut! I can already see your name splashed from one side of the internet to the other , deep and wide !

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#6 Author of original report

Chris Pearc Of Brisbane Australia

AUTHOR: Billionaire - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009

CHRIS PEARCE Of Australia Is A Conman !

CHRIS PEARCE,

Why don't you show the reciept of your payment to Todd Ash, once again to Todd Ash. You cannot produce any evidence that you ever paid him one single penny. That makes you a liar!You cannot produce 1 receipt ! Not 1 !

Oh and Todd Ash is violating what T.O.S. . You have no idea what you are talking about !

Chris Pearce You Are A Liar And A Conman ! CHRIS PEARCE everything you say is pure B.S. and I believe someone is paying you to write this crap.Don't be surprised when you get served. You have already been warned !

There is a storm coming and you will be the center of attention. You are about to make your internet debut! I can already see your name splashed from one side of the internet to the other , deep and wide !

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#5 Author of original report

Chris Pearc Of Brisbane Australia

AUTHOR: Billionaire - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009

CHRIS PEARCE Of Australia Is A Conman !

CHRIS PEARCE,

Why don't you show the reciept of your payment to Todd Ash, once again to Todd Ash. You cannot produce any evidence that you ever paid him one single penny. That makes you a liar!You cannot produce 1 receipt ! Not 1 !

Oh and Todd Ash is violating what T.O.S. . You have no idea what you are talking about !

Chris Pearce You Are A Liar And A Conman ! CHRIS PEARCE everything you say is pure B.S. and I believe someone is paying you to write this crap.Don't be surprised when you get served. You have already been warned !

There is a storm coming and you will be the center of attention. You are about to make your internet debut! I can already see your name splashed from one side of the internet to the other , deep and wide !

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#4 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: Chrispy52 - (Australia)

POSTED: Monday, January 26, 2009

I wonder if Todd Ash of Tucson, Arizona will ever post as himself or just keep falsely representing himself as consumer Billionaire/Trident of Las Vegas (Todd Ash's alter ego?) here and elsewhere.

Todd Ash (i.e. Billionaire/Trident) should be aware that there isn't much conjecture in my posts as he claims elsewhere (see Complaints Board site and others but not here; has he been thrown off this forum; I wouldn't be surprised; his reports certainly aren't valid, a prerequisite for posting). The evidence against Todd Ash is abundant. He should perhaps reread my various posts, e.g. (((Redacted))) and http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/350/RipOff0350382.htm. Offences could include fraud, slander, spamming with malicious intent, scamming, threatening behaviour, false representation, giving a false address, deceptive practices, trademark infringement, illegal use of a company name, and perhaps more. Most of the content of my current post has already been posted above or at other pages where Todd Ash has posted and has presumably read my posts. But I'm happy to reiterate - the more adverse comments on the web about Todd Ash, the better off the web community will be.

Todd Ash should also be aware that I am the victim here and he is the offender. But it is quite common for a wrongdoer to go into denial and blame the victim. As I have stated a number of times, I paid a membership to Todd Ash's paid to click traffic site, www.advertisingandselling.net. It promises payment when a threshold is reached (which I did on three occasions). There was no payment. See the two web pages I mention in the previous paragraph for details of numerous emails I sent to Todd Ash chasing up three lots of payments (I still have all the emails) and also the handful of emails from Todd Ash saying checks have been mailed, etc (I have these too). (The payment processors had gone from the site by then, probably because they knew Todd Ash wasn't paying and they ditched him, and he had to resort to allegedly paying by check.) Nothing ever turned up. I raised the issue with the Better Business Bureau (who are still seeking basic business information from Todd Ash). Todd Ash responded with a false and bizarre story (see posts elsewhere) and that prompted me to take this issue further from time to time. There's no stalking on my part (exposing scams is hardly stalking). The only reason I continue to pursue the issue is due to Todd Ash's (i.e. Billionaire's/Trident's) fraudlent, slanderous stories and other nonsense in various posts. Am I supposed to just cop this, and if not I'm accused of an offence? Nice try Todd. It's quite possible that Todd Ash could be stalking though (a person, me, is allowed to report a scam without being subject to a string of fraudulent, slanderous, and threatening statements persistently being published by the scammer, Todd Ash).

Other people weren't paid by Todd Ash's www.advertisingandselling.net either. See for example:

(((Redacted))) (I had to use the html version. Allbusiness says he reached the threshold and emailed 14 times before being told he was under investigation for using multiple accounts, which was one of the excuses Todd Ash used against me! Savvyinvestor says he reached the $350 threshold and his history was wiped out.)

(((Redacted))) (where Brian T says he lost over $400)

http://www.killerstartups.com/Marketing/advertisingandselling-com-advertisers-publishers (see comments that it is a useless site, uses cheap/stolen software, and is very similar to other sites; when I was in it, it was a broken down site with many broken clicks, little support from Admin, and of course it didn't pay)

(((Redacted))) (this site is dedicated to advertisingandselling, is headed "Fraud alert: warning you before you get scammed" and contains "Todd Ash scam info")

(((Redacted))) (see comment from another person who wasn't paid)

(((Redacted))) (see further negative comments from people)

(((Redacted))) (includes several posts that indicate the site isn't paying; also includes a view that Ash is/was spamming)

My sponsor at www.advertisingandselling.net wasn't paid either and I have several emails from him too. He also reached the payout threshold three times.

Then of course there are a number of (((Redacted))) pages and Ripoff Report pages with many adverse comments on Todd Ash.

As I've stated elsewhere (on pages where Todd Ash has posted), I have proof of an actual cash transaction when I joined Todd Ash's advertisingandselling. I have an email dated 17 March 2006 from Stormpay with all the details of the transaction, including who was paid (advertisingandselling), the amount, and the transaction ID number. I have an email dated 18 March 2006 from Todd Ash's advertisingandselling confirming my membership and payment to him. The subject line of the email reads: "Deposit notification.", and the body reads: "Hello, A deposit in the amount of $84.00 has been made to your account and is readily available.Thank you for using our sevice. http://www.AdvertisingandSelling.com Thank You. Staff". [I should point out that the .com version became .net later in 2006.]

Todd Ash has been saying since mid 2008 that he has sold advertisingandselling, sometimes saying it has been sold for millions. It has not been sold. Todd Ash still owns www.advertisingandselling.com, .net, .biz, etc, though I bet he wishes he could divest himself of these sites. He has been trying to sell advertisingandselling for at least two and a half years. He was advertising it for sale on eBay for various amounts in the millions for quite some time; the highest amount I saw was $11.5 million. I advised eBay and soon after, by coincidence or otherwise, it disappeared from eBay. More recently, Todd Ash has been trying to sell advertisingandselling (all 11 sites) through Godaddy for $50,000, again for quite some time, where the current end date is 2 April 2009 (see https://auctions.godaddy.com/trpItemListing.aspx?ci=1136&miid=11837248). As I've already said in my previous post, Todd Ash's details are no longer listed at http://www.who.is/whois-com/ip-address/advertisingandselling.com/ (and .net, etc). The registrant and administrative and technical contacts are now all listed as Domains by Proxy. The way this works is that the owner of a website can have it registered in the name of Domains by Proxy, so that the owner's details aren't made public (see http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/). Todd Ash has simply transferred the registration while retaining ownership (he's still trying to sell it!). (When you Google the Scottsdale address of Domains by Proxy, you come up with references to all sorts of businesses, including many postings by people who seem to have been ripped off by some of them. It seems that Domains By Proxy could be a bit of a haunt for dodgy businesses and programs.) Further, there are links to http://advertisingandselling.com from http://www.toddash.com/resources.html and (((Redacted))). I was amused by Todd Ash's comment about wasting time playing in traffic exchanges in his post above, but then he has said in other posts that advertisingandselling, a major part of which is a traffic exchange, has been sold for millions.

I'm glad that Todd Ash (i.e. Billionaire/Trident) has read about the alleged email scam - he wrote it! It is a fraudulent and slanderous statement that is completely false; I have no website and no web business. Todd Ash has invented this story as payback for me exposing his scams. As with all of Todd Ash's posts, there is no evidence - no names, no websites, no dates, nothing. Todd Ash accuses me of being negative - if exposing his scams is being negative, then so be it.

Todd Ash keeps assuming I'm trying to make money out of the internet and have failed etc. As I have said a number of times, I joined Todd Ash's paid to click traffic site, www.advertisingandselling.net, when I was dabbling in a bit of affiliate marketing in 2006. One of my backgrounds is in marketing and I was interested to see all the programs etc (even if virtually all of them are dodgy). I was briefly in a couple of other traffic sites.

The only complaint about me on the web is a fraudulent, slanderous, completely false story written by Todd Ash (i.e. Bllionaire/Trident), which he has posted to a number of sites. He should be aware that he breaks the terms of service of the sites he posts to, i.e. making a false statement. He could be in trouble with the Ezine articles site too, which asks that an author is reported if they are suspected of any fraudulent practices. I can't imagine the likes of the Internet Complaint Center or the Federal Trade Commission or Honeste Online would be too impressed with Todd Ash either.

As for Hydrogen Operated (http://www.hydrogenoperated.com), the phone number (877 476 9172) is the same one Todd Ash uses to offer a reverse funnel system (an MLM related scheme) phone consultation. Google the number and you'll see. There is no conjecture here. The outside shot of the factory/workshop is clearly one big cut and paste (see my post above). Perhaps Todd Ash could provide an address for this building so people can check it out on Google Street View and Satellite. If there's a workshop, why not offer installation to the perhaps three-quarters of the population who would prefer it (and increase sales and profit), instead of just offering a kit through the mail? "Think Green" is a registered trademark of Waste Management. See my other comments in my previous post and elsewhere. I can see no evidence on the site that this "business" isn't a scam. See also http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=43258 where about 10 people take Todd Ash to task over the product involved; he posts at this site as consumers Billionaire and Dr.HHO.phd.

Re Todd Ash being founder of Hydrogen Operated (I didn't say he was a consumer there; that's at the www.scam.com site, and of course at the (((Redacted))) and Ripoff Report sites), yes I recall reading this somewhere a while back. I've found it again at http://www.hydrogenoperated.com/new.htm. There seems to be two separate websites floating around with no links between them: this one and http://www.hydrogenoperated.com/. When I Google "Hydrogen Operated", the .com site is listed first but the .com/new site isn't in the first three pages. Todd Ash isn't mentioned in the .com version. Todd Ash Inc. is mentioned at http://www.hydrogenoperated.com/privacy.htm, which doesn't now seem to link to or from either site. The whole thing is a mess.

Todd Ash (i.e. Billionaire/Trident) has my email address (private information) from when I was in advertisingandselling and has been using it illegally. He has been arranging to send me, with malicious intent, a whole pile of spam emails, and this might have to be a police matter. It makes no difference that they come via other people; these people are merely innocent agents; Todd Ash is the spammer (with malicious intent). Around Christmas 2008 I suddenly started receiving far more spam emails than usual. Many of them are through a thing called FFA Network. Most involve various money making schemes and internet marketing stuff. I have kept a number of them, including those that include a false statement about me that Todd Ash used in a post to a number of sites. The statement seems to be the title of an ad submission he has made that he is spreading around various networks. He has also linked the statement to a website with my name as part of the website name, but no such site exists. See for example, the ad posted at (((Redacted))). I have asked them to remove it and have explained to them how and why it is there; it is/was under the "Personal" heading. There are other similar postings by Todd Ash. I have also responded to various other emails, explaining who is responsible for arranging this spam and why. I have deleted myself from some of the programs. Where there is no obvious opt-out, I have sent these to spam cop with a note as to who is responsible etc. For some of them, you have to sign in for registration to take place and I have generally ignored these or emailed them a note. The amount of these spam has now slowed to a trickle - 1 or 2 a day.

chrispy52

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More on scam artist Todd Ash of Tucson, Arizona

AUTHOR: Chrispy52 - (Australia)

POSTED: Monday, January 12, 2009

It seems I have to post a 'rebuttal' here. This is not a rebuttal. I am not an owner, employee or ex-employee, but a consumer of Todd Ash's advertisingandselling scam and I make this post in this context. Todd Ash falsely represents himself above as consumer Billionaire and gives a false address. He lives in Tucson, Arizona. I've been exposing Todd Ash's scams and he has decided to pretend that I am the scammer and has started a new report. I don't own a website and never have, and don't have any web businesses or programs. All I did was join Todd Ash's paid to click site, advertisingandselling.net, when I was dabbling in a bit of affiliate marketing. He didn't pay, so I complained, and Ash has come back with a whole heap of nonsense at various sites. If any of it were true, there would surely be some evidence somewhere (e.g. websites, dates, names, forum posts). As usual, Todd Ash provides no evidence to back up what he says. His story above is a complete fabrication (and as thus is a false statement and violates Ripoff Report's Terms of Service). But this is his style. If someone complains that Todd Ash has ripped them off, he posts as a consumer saying he hasn't been ripped off himself, or he says the complainer has misused the site in some way, or he threatens legal action, or he makes up stories (see, for example, (((Redacted))) and http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/350/RipOff0350382.htm, where Todd Ash falsely represents himself as consumers Billionaire and Trident). Todd Ash has tried the first three ways but these didn't work so he's now spinning stories about me ripping off a whole bunch of people. He's a joke. I think he's hell-bent on making his fortune from the web and I don't believe it's happening, so he's getting more and more frustrated, especially when people point out that he is a scammer.

In contrast to the complete lack of evidence that I have ripped anyone off on the web (how could there be any evidence? I have no website and no web business), there is plenty of evidence that Todd Ash is ripping people off (see for example the two threads I cite in the above paragraph). Todd Ash has been saying since mid 2008 that advertisingandselling has been sold, at one stage saying it was sold for $5.5 million and that the sale was covered in Forbes (which it wasn't). I still don't believe it has been sold. If you go to www.whois, you'll find that advertisingandselling.com, .net, etc are now registered under domainsbyproxy.com of 15111 N. Hayden Rd, Scottsdale, Arizona (rather than under Todd Ash's name and address). The way this works is that the owner of a website can have it registered in the name of Domains by Proxy, so that the owner's details aren't made public. I think Todd Ash has simply transferred the registration while retaining ownership. When you Google the Scottsdale address, you come up with all sorts of businesses, including many postings by people who seem to have been ripped off by some of them. It seems that Domains By Proxy could be a bit of a haunt for dodgy businesses and programs. Further, advertisingandselling is still for sale through godaddy for $50,000, with the same blurb of Todd Ash's as before, but with a new end date of 2 April 2009 (see https://auctions.godaddy.com/trpItemListing.aspx?ci=1136&miid=11837248). Earlier he was trying to sell it through eBay for various amounts in the millions. It disappeared from eBay soon after I advised them about advertisingandselling and Todd Ash. I don't believe anyone in their right mind will buy advertisingandselling for any amount of money - it's a scam and would be worth nothing.

Todd Ash of Tucson, Arizona also runs a thing called Hydrogen Operated (see http://www.hydrogenoperated.com). Whois still includes Todd Ash's details for this one. See http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=43258 for some interesting comments on the dodgy nature of the product itself; Todd Ash falsely represents himself as a consumer at that site too, as Billionaire and as Dr.HHO.phd. I've had a close look at the site itself and make the following observations:

- When you Google the phone number at the top of the home page (1 877 476 9172), you not only find that website, but also a whole bunch of other sites offering a reverse funnel system free phone consultation with Todd Ash, some of which include his home videos. Thus this business has no separate phone number, but shares one with an MLM related scheme of Ash's.

- Scroll down and you see a photo of a nice factory or workshop. But somehow it doesn't look right. It looks like it's sitting on the back of a platform, with a background of virgin bush that just doesn't look real. The brickwork is fuzzy, yet the business name is quite clear. Also, the camera is not looking at that part of the building front-on but at an angle of perhaps about 45 degrees. The letters of the business name should therefore be much thinner in appearance at this angle. Thus it looks like the name has been added to the picture. The two trees either side of the front door don't look real either; their edges are too sharp and they're a funny unnatural shape. These may have been added in too.

- There is some funny smudgy stuff around the Think Green sign too. "Think Green" is actually a registered trademark of an organisation called Waste Management (see http://www.thinkgreen.com). Todd Ash might be committing trademark infringement here and may need to check this out.

- The photo just below it, of the inside, shows two large doors next to each other that can only be at the back of the building, but the outside shot doesn't seem to show a way of getting round there; it may have been erased to allow for the bush background. Further the business name on the wall of the inside photo is clearly crooked, running downhill, and the pattern on the wall looks fuzzy around this area. Thus it looks like the name might have been added to this photo too.

- What's more there's no address given for this building, and no address given anywhere on the website. A search of the Arizona Corporation Commission gives two addresses for Hydrogen Operated LLC: a residential one and an agent/physical address. Google Street View shows that the latter is in a busy commercial district in Tucson and is nothing like the website photo, so this must be an agent address. Thus no physical address is given anywhere. It's all quite deceptive. (By the way, Todd Ash is listed as a "member".)

- Nor is there a name of a person on this site. "Todd Ash Inc." appears near the bottom of the privacy policy page, a name that isn't listed by the Arizona Corporation Commission and he may be using it illegally.

- Most of the purchase agreement is the same as that of the Internet Law Compliance centre, word for word, and I'm checking with them to see that Todd Ash has sought and obtained permission to use it.

- Todd Ash boasts of thousands of customers from over 90 countries (neither of which I can believe; I doubt he has sold more than 1 or 2 of these things). You have to order through Paypal and receive a kit in the mail. The whole thing just doesn't add up. I wonder if Todd Ash just buys these kits from somewhere and onsells them for a profit, all done from the back room at home.

- Despite all this, Todd Ash has had the cheek to register with Honeste Online (see (((Redacted)))). They obviously don't check things out too well.

Further, the web page (((Redacted))) includes a link on the first screen called Advertising and Selling Resources. This takes you to (((Redacted))). Surprise, surprise! I would steer clear of other programs on this lengthy page too. The page http://www.toddash.com/wordpress/ also includes a link to Todd Ash's www.advertisingandselling.com and www.hydrogenoperated.com. The site http://www.toddash.com/ currently advertises a "State Of The Art Marketing Program That Will Blow The Doors Off Of The Internet Business Industry And Will Crush The Competition!" due to be released on 1 February 2009. I would regard this as dodgy but we'll see. Personally, I would steer clear of anything run by Todd Ash. He has proven himself to be a blatant scammer, incorrigible liar, nasty fellow, full of nonsense, and not very bright.

I also suspect Todd Ash might have arranged for a whole pile of spam emails to be sent my way and I'm investigating this. (These come straight into my antispam folder, so they don't get in the way at all and are quick and easy to delete.)

I look forward to the next hilarious post from Todd Ash. But before he posts again, he should perhaps keep in mind that he is the one trying to make a living from the web; I'm not. His crazy posts make no difference to me. Todd, get yourself a proper job!

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More on scam artist Todd Ash of Tucson, Arizona

AUTHOR: Chrispy52 - (Australia)

POSTED: Monday, January 12, 2009

It seems I have to post a 'rebuttal' here. This is not a rebuttal. I am not an owner, employee or ex-employee, but a consumer of Todd Ash's advertisingandselling scam and I make this post in this context. Todd Ash falsely represents himself above as consumer Billionaire and gives a false address. He lives in Tucson, Arizona. I've been exposing Todd Ash's scams and he has decided to pretend that I am the scammer and has started a new report. I don't own a website and never have, and don't have any web businesses or programs. All I did was join Todd Ash's paid to click site, advertisingandselling.net, when I was dabbling in a bit of affiliate marketing. He didn't pay, so I complained, and Ash has come back with a whole heap of nonsense at various sites. If any of it were true, there would surely be some evidence somewhere (e.g. websites, dates, names, forum posts). As usual, Todd Ash provides no evidence to back up what he says. His story above is a complete fabrication (and as thus is a false statement and violates Ripoff Report's Terms of Service). But this is his style. If someone complains that Todd Ash has ripped them off, he posts as a consumer saying he hasn't been ripped off himself, or he says the complainer has misused the site in some way, or he threatens legal action, or he makes up stories (see, for example, (((Redacted))) and http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/350/RipOff0350382.htm, where Todd Ash falsely represents himself as consumers Billionaire and Trident). Todd Ash has tried the first three ways but these didn't work so he's now spinning stories about me ripping off a whole bunch of people. He's a joke. I think he's hell-bent on making his fortune from the web and I don't believe it's happening, so he's getting more and more frustrated, especially when people point out that he is a scammer.

In contrast to the complete lack of evidence that I have ripped anyone off on the web (how could there be any evidence? I have no website and no web business), there is plenty of evidence that Todd Ash is ripping people off (see for example the two threads I cite in the above paragraph). Todd Ash has been saying since mid 2008 that advertisingandselling has been sold, at one stage saying it was sold for $5.5 million and that the sale was covered in Forbes (which it wasn't). I still don't believe it has been sold. If you go to www.whois, you'll find that advertisingandselling.com, .net, etc are now registered under domainsbyproxy.com of 15111 N. Hayden Rd, Scottsdale, Arizona (rather than under Todd Ash's name and address). The way this works is that the owner of a website can have it registered in the name of Domains by Proxy, so that the owner's details aren't made public. I think Todd Ash has simply transferred the registration while retaining ownership. When you Google the Scottsdale address, you come up with all sorts of businesses, including many postings by people who seem to have been ripped off by some of them. It seems that Domains By Proxy could be a bit of a haunt for dodgy businesses and programs. Further, advertisingandselling is still for sale through godaddy for $50,000, with the same blurb of Todd Ash's as before, but with a new end date of 2 April 2009 (see https://auctions.godaddy.com/trpItemListing.aspx?ci=1136&miid=11837248). Earlier he was trying to sell it through eBay for various amounts in the millions. It disappeared from eBay soon after I advised them about advertisingandselling and Todd Ash. I don't believe anyone in their right mind will buy advertisingandselling for any amount of money - it's a scam and would be worth nothing.

Todd Ash of Tucson, Arizona also runs a thing called Hydrogen Operated (see http://www.hydrogenoperated.com). Whois still includes Todd Ash's details for this one. See http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=43258 for some interesting comments on the dodgy nature of the product itself; Todd Ash falsely represents himself as a consumer at that site too, as Billionaire and as Dr.HHO.phd. I've had a close look at the site itself and make the following observations:

- When you Google the phone number at the top of the home page (1 877 476 9172), you not only find that website, but also a whole bunch of other sites offering a reverse funnel system free phone consultation with Todd Ash, some of which include his home videos. Thus this business has no separate phone number, but shares one with an MLM related scheme of Ash's.

- Scroll down and you see a photo of a nice factory or workshop. But somehow it doesn't look right. It looks like it's sitting on the back of a platform, with a background of virgin bush that just doesn't look real. The brickwork is fuzzy, yet the business name is quite clear. Also, the camera is not looking at that part of the building front-on but at an angle of perhaps about 45 degrees. The letters of the business name should therefore be much thinner in appearance at this angle. Thus it looks like the name has been added to the picture. The two trees either side of the front door don't look real either; their edges are too sharp and they're a funny unnatural shape. These may have been added in too.

- There is some funny smudgy stuff around the Think Green sign too. "Think Green" is actually a registered trademark of an organisation called Waste Management (see http://www.thinkgreen.com). Todd Ash might be committing trademark infringement here and may need to check this out.

- The photo just below it, of the inside, shows two large doors next to each other that can only be at the back of the building, but the outside shot doesn't seem to show a way of getting round there; it may have been erased to allow for the bush background. Further the business name on the wall of the inside photo is clearly crooked, running downhill, and the pattern on the wall looks fuzzy around this area. Thus it looks like the name might have been added to this photo too.

- What's more there's no address given for this building, and no address given anywhere on the website. A search of the Arizona Corporation Commission gives two addresses for Hydrogen Operated LLC: a residential one and an agent/physical address. Google Street View shows that the latter is in a busy commercial district in Tucson and is nothing like the website photo, so this must be an agent address. Thus no physical address is given anywhere. It's all quite deceptive. (By the way, Todd Ash is listed as a "member".)

- Nor is there a name of a person on this site. "Todd Ash Inc." appears near the bottom of the privacy policy page, a name that isn't listed by the Arizona Corporation Commission and he may be using it illegally.

- Most of the purchase agreement is the same as that of the Internet Law Compliance centre, word for word, and I'm checking with them to see that Todd Ash has sought and obtained permission to use it.

- Todd Ash boasts of thousands of customers from over 90 countries (neither of which I can believe; I doubt he has sold more than 1 or 2 of these things). You have to order through Paypal and receive a kit in the mail. The whole thing just doesn't add up. I wonder if Todd Ash just buys these kits from somewhere and onsells them for a profit, all done from the back room at home.

- Despite all this, Todd Ash has had the cheek to register with Honeste Online (see (((Redacted)))). They obviously don't check things out too well.

Further, the web page (((Redacted))) includes a link on the first screen called Advertising and Selling Resources. This takes you to (((Redacted))). Surprise, surprise! I would steer clear of other programs on this lengthy page too. The page http://www.toddash.com/wordpress/ also includes a link to Todd Ash's www.advertisingandselling.com and www.hydrogenoperated.com. The site http://www.toddash.com/ currently advertises a "State Of The Art Marketing Program That Will Blow The Doors Off Of The Internet Business Industry And Will Crush The Competition!" due to be released on 1 February 2009. I would regard this as dodgy but we'll see. Personally, I would steer clear of anything run by Todd Ash. He has proven himself to be a blatant scammer, incorrigible liar, nasty fellow, full of nonsense, and not very bright.

I also suspect Todd Ash might have arranged for a whole pile of spam emails to be sent my way and I'm investigating this. (These come straight into my antispam folder, so they don't get in the way at all and are quick and easy to delete.)

I look forward to the next hilarious post from Todd Ash. But before he posts again, he should perhaps keep in mind that he is the one trying to make a living from the web; I'm not. His crazy posts make no difference to me. Todd, get yourself a proper job!

Chris CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.

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More on scam artist Todd Ash of Tucson, Arizona

AUTHOR: Chrispy52 - (Australia)

POSTED: Monday, January 12, 2009

It seems I have to post a 'rebuttal' here. This is not a rebuttal. I am not an owner, employee or ex-employee, but a consumer of Todd Ash's advertisingandselling scam and I make this post in this context. Todd Ash falsely represents himself above as consumer Billionaire and gives a false address. He lives in Tucson, Arizona. I've been exposing Todd Ash's scams and he has decided to pretend that I am the scammer and has started a new report. I don't own a website and never have, and don't have any web businesses or programs. All I did was join Todd Ash's paid to click site, advertisingandselling.net, when I was dabbling in a bit of affiliate marketing. He didn't pay, so I complained, and Ash has come back with a whole heap of nonsense at various sites. If any of it were true, there would surely be some evidence somewhere (e.g. websites, dates, names, forum posts). As usual, Todd Ash provides no evidence to back up what he says. His story above is a complete fabrication (and as thus is a false statement and violates Ripoff Report's Terms of Service). But this is his style. If someone complains that Todd Ash has ripped them off, he posts as a consumer saying he hasn't been ripped off himself, or he says the complainer has misused the site in some way, or he threatens legal action, or he makes up stories (see, for example, (((Redacted))) and http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/350/RipOff0350382.htm, where Todd Ash falsely represents himself as consumers Billionaire and Trident). Todd Ash has tried the first three ways but these didn't work so he's now spinning stories about me ripping off a whole bunch of people. He's a joke. I think he's hell-bent on making his fortune from the web and I don't believe it's happening, so he's getting more and more frustrated, especially when people point out that he is a scammer.

In contrast to the complete lack of evidence that I have ripped anyone off on the web (how could there be any evidence? I have no website and no web business), there is plenty of evidence that Todd Ash is ripping people off (see for example the two threads I cite in the above paragraph). Todd Ash has been saying since mid 2008 that advertisingandselling has been sold, at one stage saying it was sold for $5.5 million and that the sale was covered in Forbes (which it wasn't). I still don't believe it has been sold. If you go to www.whois, you'll find that advertisingandselling.com, .net, etc are now registered under domainsbyproxy.com of 15111 N. Hayden Rd, Scottsdale, Arizona (rather than under Todd Ash's name and address). The way this works is that the owner of a website can have it registered in the name of Domains by Proxy, so that the owner's details aren't made public. I think Todd Ash has simply transferred the registration while retaining ownership. When you Google the Scottsdale address, you come up with all sorts of businesses, including many postings by people who seem to have been ripped off by some of them. It seems that Domains By Proxy could be a bit of a haunt for dodgy businesses and programs. Further, advertisingandselling is still for sale through godaddy for $50,000, with the same blurb of Todd Ash's as before, but with a new end date of 2 April 2009 (see https://auctions.godaddy.com/trpItemListing.aspx?ci=1136&miid=11837248). Earlier he was trying to sell it through eBay for various amounts in the millions. It disappeared from eBay soon after I advised them about advertisingandselling and Todd Ash. I don't believe anyone in their right mind will buy advertisingandselling for any amount of money - it's a scam and would be worth nothing.

Todd Ash of Tucson, Arizona also runs a thing called Hydrogen Operated (see http://www.hydrogenoperated.com). Whois still includes Todd Ash's details for this one. See http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=43258 for some interesting comments on the dodgy nature of the product itself; Todd Ash falsely represents himself as a consumer at that site too, as Billionaire and as Dr.HHO.phd. I've had a close look at the site itself and make the following observations:

- When you Google the phone number at the top of the home page (1 877 476 9172), you not only find that website, but also a whole bunch of other sites offering a reverse funnel system free phone consultation with Todd Ash, some of which include his home videos. Thus this business has no separate phone number, but shares one with an MLM related scheme of Ash's.

- Scroll down and you see a photo of a nice factory or workshop. But somehow it doesn't look right. It looks like it's sitting on the back of a platform, with a background of virgin bush that just doesn't look real. The brickwork is fuzzy, yet the business name is quite clear. Also, the camera is not looking at that part of the building front-on but at an angle of perhaps about 45 degrees. The letters of the business name should therefore be much thinner in appearance at this angle. Thus it looks like the name has been added to the picture. The two trees either side of the front door don't look real either; their edges are too sharp and they're a funny unnatural shape. These may have been added in too.

- There is some funny smudgy stuff around the Think Green sign too. "Think Green" is actually a registered trademark of an organisation called Waste Management (see http://www.thinkgreen.com). Todd Ash might be committing trademark infringement here and may need to check this out.

- The photo just below it, of the inside, shows two large doors next to each other that can only be at the back of the building, but the outside shot doesn't seem to show a way of getting round there; it may have been erased to allow for the bush background. Further the business name on the wall of the inside photo is clearly crooked, running downhill, and the pattern on the wall looks fuzzy around this area. Thus it looks like the name might have been added to this photo too.

- What's more there's no address given for this building, and no address given anywhere on the website. A search of the Arizona Corporation Commission gives two addresses for Hydrogen Operated LLC: a residential one and an agent/physical address. Google Street View shows that the latter is in a busy commercial district in Tucson and is nothing like the website photo, so this must be an agent address. Thus no physical address is given anywhere. It's all quite deceptive. (By the way, Todd Ash is listed as a "member".)

- Nor is there a name of a person on this site. "Todd Ash Inc." appears near the bottom of the privacy policy page, a name that isn't listed by the Arizona Corporation Commission and he may be using it illegally.

- Most of the purchase agreement is the same as that of the Internet Law Compliance centre, word for word, and I'm checking with them to see that Todd Ash has sought and obtained permission to use it.

- Todd Ash boasts of thousands of customers from over 90 countries (neither of which I can believe; I doubt he has sold more than 1 or 2 of these things). You have to order through Paypal and receive a kit in the mail. The whole thing just doesn't add up. I wonder if Todd Ash just buys these kits from somewhere and onsells them for a profit, all done from the back room at home.

- Despite all this, Todd Ash has had the cheek to register with Honeste Online (see (((Redacted)))). They obviously don't check things out too well.

Further, the web page (((Redacted))) includes a link on the first screen called Advertising and Selling Resources. This takes you to (((Redacted))). Surprise, surprise! I would steer clear of other programs on this lengthy page too. The page http://www.toddash.com/wordpress/ also includes a link to Todd Ash's www.advertisingandselling.com and www.hydrogenoperated.com. The site http://www.toddash.com/ currently advertises a "State Of The Art Marketing Program That Will Blow The Doors Off Of The Internet Business Industry And Will Crush The Competition!" due to be released on 1 February 2009. I would regard this as dodgy but we'll see. Personally, I would steer clear of anything run by Todd Ash. He has proven himself to be a blatant scammer, incorrigible liar, nasty fellow, full of nonsense, and not very bright.

I also suspect Todd Ash might have arranged for a whole pile of spam emails to be sent my way and I'm investigating this. (These come straight into my antispam folder, so they don't get in the way at all and are quick and easy to delete.)

I look forward to the next hilarious post from Todd Ash. But before he posts again, he should perhaps keep in mind that he is the one trying to make a living from the web; I'm not. His crazy posts make no difference to me. Todd, get yourself a proper job!

Chris CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.

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