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Complaint Review: Christian Community Action - Lewisville Texas

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Should 5013-C Organizations Be Permitted to Bear the NameChristian for Marketing Purposes Even If Such Organizations Are Not Managed By Church Leadership?
CCA website www.ccahelps.org
I am just a Christian man. Though the term Christian literally means, Christ-like, I do not in any way claim to be similar to Jesus, by his standard of holiness. In fact, the only part of me that is holy is Christ who is in me, by the power of the Holy Spirit and the grace of God, my Heavenly Father.

I started this blog with one purpose: To remind all of us (Christians) that even in our struggle, we are greater than he who is in the world. We have nothing to fear, nothing to condemn, nothing to hide, which has not already been resolved by our Lord. None of us are perfect. None of us are better than another. We all make mistakes and all have been forgiven by grace through our faith in Christ, which will thankfully result in our repentance according to our obedience to His word. We all struggle with the tug-of-war between body, soul, and spirit a war between our spirit and our flesh. We all do things that we should not do and do not do things that we should do. And all of us Christians mature at different rates and different levels. Yet, we are one body, with Christ as the head. All of these truths we know by the Word of God.

Recently, I encountered a sequence of events carried out by a so-named Christian organization, Christian Community Action, CCA for short, a 5013-C non-profit organization with the purpose of helping those in need and living in poverty, Christian and non-Christian alike. CCA serves individuals in Denton County and surrounding areas of the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex. I will not reveal who I spoke with at this organization or the details of my numerous encounters with organization executives, management, and staff / volunteers.

I do not wish to cause any disruption to the good services that CCA provides to the community or to my brothers and sisters who work there. Some of my brothers and sisters at CCA have offended me. I discussed the offenses in private with those individuals, but there was no resolution. It is my duty, as a brother, in Christ, to expose any wrongdoing that is happening at CCA, a large 5013-C organization operating as a Christian organization. I want to bring this issue to the light so that others will be aware of changes that should take place to ensure that CCA does not lead people astray due to any unintended neglegence that may occur as a result of lack of biblical counsel by CCA management.

Before I continue, please know that it is my opinion that CCA has helped tens of thousands of individuals over the years in too many ways to list. The organization, undoubtedly has become an exemplary representative of non-profit community assistance centers in the DFW area. And if CCA did not bear the name Christian (Christian Community Action) and by name, represent a Christian Community, I would not take issue with Christian Community Action.

Secular organizations, in my opinion should not be held to the same standard as Christian organizations. However, as soon as you attach the word Christian, the non-profit organization should be held to the standard of a church (congregation / fellowship / ministry / outreach) and should be led under pastoral / elder care, by individuals called by God to serve in His church as ministers of His Word. To make my point more clear, let me describe it this way: If we Christians are to be leaders in the Christian Church (the body of Christ, as described in the New Testament of the Holy Bible), we should strive to lead our ministries as the bible teaches us to, according to the spiritual direction of the Holy Spirit. Christian Community Action, being a nominally self-described Christian organization, should be led by pastors, elders, teachers (of scripture), evangelists, ministers, deacons, etc. CCA should not be led by MBAs and Harvard graduates, unless they are called by God to serve as leaders in the church (body of Christ).

You will know them by their fruit. Is the organization being managed as the bible instructs? Is the focus about Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, and our Holy Father, in Heaven? Are the leaders of CCA biblically equipped? Did they attend bible college or seminary (not that this is a requirement, but)? Are any ordained ministers? Have any dedicated their work to the Lord, first, as He instructed in the bible? Or are CCA executives and management Christian men and women (like me) who simply want to do good works. Good works should be commended (by God). However, there are a number of organizations around the world that do wonderful things for communities and entire societies. However, to bear the name Christian, as does Christian Community Action, should not the organization be managed as the scriptures dictate, just as the church is to be managed? Sure, some may say, every church is run differently. True, but most agree on the basic principles of church leadership and order in the church, which is to say that the organization is managed based on biblical standards, not business school standards.

I am starting this blog to help make a difference in one organization that has a lot of potential to change thousands of lives not just in a way that helps its staff and volunteers feel good about their hard work to help those in need, but far more importantly to help those individuals that serve under the name Christian Community Action do so as Christ loved the church, placing themselves in a lesser position with one goal in mind: To know that they are the only form of salt and light in a world that is suffering to change help change lives for eternity, by the power of the Holy Spirit!

If Cristian Community Action (CCA) desides not to change the structure of its organization to become a truly Christian organization (managed by church pastors and elders), then I would suggest that it change its name as soon as possible. Why?: Each time a person in need encounters a volunteer/worker at CCA whose job function is not managed under church leadership, the person in need (seeking help from a Christian organization) will associate their experience as a Christian experience. If CCA workers/volunteers are just doing their job (not managed by biblical counsel or pastoral leadership), they may be very helpful in terms of providing relief to the person in need, but if the CCA worker/volunteer is not displaying the love of Christ in their communication, then the person in need will walk away with a Christian encounter not carried out by the body of Christ as the bible prescribes (not managed by church leaders).

Christian Community Action (CCA) Executives
Scott Orr
President
president@ccahelps.org
972-219-4302
972-350-4365

Cyndi Denham
Presidents Assistant
ceoassistant@ccahelps.org
972.219.4387

Tammy Wallace
Chief Financial Officer
cfo@ccahelps.org
972-219-4320

Kathie Gautille
VP Marketing
972-219-4315
vpmarketing@ccahelps.org

Jennifer Leney
Chief Operating Officer
coo@ccahelps.org
972-219-4349

Christian Community Action (CCA) Management
Doris Scales
Clinic Director
clinic@ccahelps.org
972-219-4385

Financial Donations
Call 972-219-4318
Pamela Ducas
Development Director
relations@ccahelps.org

Media Contact
Call 972-219-4382
Lauri Nack
Marketing and Events Specialist
marketing@ccahelps.org

Krystle Boise at 972-219-4382 or

marketingevents@ccahelps.org

Building supplies Contact Seth Harrison, 972-219-4353,

housing@ccahelps.org
Carpeting Contact Seth Harrison, 972-219-4353,

housing@ccahelps.org
Computer hardware and software Contact Fernando Heredia,

972-219-4322, donationcenter@ccahelps.org
Furnishings Contact Seth Harrison, 972-219-4353,

housing@ccahelps.org
Heating and cooling equipment Contact Seth Harrison, 972

-219-4353, housing@ccahelps.org
Nonperishable and perishable food Contact Trent Smith,

972-219-4346 or foodpanty@ccahelps.org
Office supplies and equipment Contact Seth Harrison, 972

-219-4353, housing@ccahelps.org
Vehicles Contact Scheduling, 972-219-4304
Warehouse equipment Contact Fernando Heredia, 972-219-

4322, donationcenter@ccahelps.org

Christian Community Action (CCA) Board of Directors
Nick Panza, Chairman
Jeffery D. Price, Vice Chair
Cory A. Strange, Treasurer
Elaine Emery, Secretary
Tom Black
Bill Cavalle
Bob Day
Tamra Deuser, MD
Mario Flores
Marvin Franklin
Andy Gabehart
Steve Griffin
Ken Hughes
Gina Johnson
Rhonda Loving
Joseph Moore
Pia Pena
David Porter
Morris Salerno
Jeff Schuetts
J. Terry Smith
Doug Welch
Jill Carter Welke

Reference - http://christianorg.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/hello-world/#more-1

 

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#12 Consumer Comment

CCA Should remain Christian Community Action

AUTHOR: thunderbyrd - ()

POSTED: Sunday, December 01, 2013

I read through the criticisms of this person citing CCA as a ripoff. I don't see how he was "ripped off" exactly.  I feel I am qualified to comment on this matter because I am the daughter of a degreed Baptist minister and grew up in the middle of his ministry, I have been a devout and active Christian for 35 years, and I am a volunteer at CCA.  Therfore, I know what "Christian" truly means. I volunteered at CCA because I have been out of work for quite awhile, thanks to the downturn in our economy from mismanagement by the current adminsitration, and I wanted to biblically "give something back" as a Christ-follower, while I seek gainful employment that will save my home from foreclosure and pay my bills.  

 

This person has objections to CCA being non-profit and having Christian in the name because the people running it are not "degreed ministers", or because it is not run by a formal church board?? Really??  As a studied Christian, I do not recall any one of the apostles of Jesus Christ having a divinity degree from a college, nor do I recall Jesus ever having required they procure one to be His follower. Do we negate the Bible because the people who penned it did not have a divinity degree from college handing on the wall of their cave or tent??I believe the only requirement to being a Christian is to actually follow the teachings of Christ. One thing I find quite disturbing is that many seminaries today do not even teach the diety of Christ anymore. So tell me, what would make a degreed theologian in a formal ministry, who did not even believe in the divinity of Jesus more qualified to be on the board of CCA than a well-studied lay-student of the Chrisitan Bible who followed the teachings of Christ and considered it part of his or her religion to follow through on the commandments of Jesus (Christ------IAN-----Christ FOLLOWER) by helping the poor??? Jesus Christ Himself said "If you are not for me, you are against me". The person making this complaint sounds like he is eaten up with legalism and practicing no true Christianity.  

 

I haven't met the board, I am merely a technical writer who is helping CCA get all of their policies and procedures documented and improved. In that position, I am down in the nuts and bolts, and see how it is working.  There are RULES that CCA has to follow, lest they get in trouble with the government agencies they work with.  There are also rules and guidelines they have to meet in order to help many, rather than expend all their resources on a few deadbeats who'd keep returning to work the system and take advantage if there were not guidelines in place.  

 

From what I see, CCA strives to utilize ALL the funds, donations and grants they receive in a manner to reflect Christian good stewardship.  All I can say here is that I have sat at the front desk while doing my work, and I have seen multitudes of people come for blankets, toys, clothes, food. Homeless people get blankes and coats. Hungry people get food.  Sick people can visit the clinic, someone with power cut off can get their gas back on. A battered wife can get a tank of gas to go to a safe place, along with a bag of food and diapers for her hungry kids in the car, no questions asked. I hear the receptionist directing the clients receiving help to go have their visitation with the chaplain on duty.  In the time I have been observing, I have not actually seen even one client refuse to see the chaplain, but I am sure it happens.  Seeing the chaplain is suggested, not mandatory.  I see the caseworker, receptionists and case managers striving to be Christ's hands and feet to these people -- even their IT guy, whom I work with, is a devout Christian man who has his own ministry.  I have a small ministry of my own. Although I don't know everyone, I see people all through CCA BEING CHRISTIAN.  Being the hands and feet of Jesus, which is what Christianity actually is!!!  

 

Christianity is NOT a divinity degree from some seminary who no longer even teaches the diety of Christ.  This man cites the "unchristianity" of some of the people in the organization as an excuse for his complaint.  I attend one of the largest mega-churches in the metroplex, and I meet people participating in their adult singles group who seem purely luciferian -- does that mean my CHURCH is bad and should have their sign ripped off the door??  NO!  Every organization, Christian or not, will have a few sour apples.  We deal with that as best we can, let's not throw the baby out wit the bathwater.  --I say -- leave Christian in the name of CCA, let their tax status alone, and this complainer needs to go find some injustice in this world truly worthy of crusading about --- Heaven knows rthere are many many many wrongs out there which need to be righted before we force an organization made up of mostly true Christians to remove CHRISTIAN from their name....

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#11 Consumer Comment

Christian Community Action

AUTHOR: Amazed - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 18, 2012

Often I read nasty reports about charity organizations because they do not give the applicant what they want.  I always know there is a story  behind the story.

Christian Community action is not a perfect organization just as I am not a perfect Christian nor are any of you.   They do make mistakes; however, my friend was in the lobby when the man who called CCA greedy and rude was there
.  He was making unreasonable demands and he was the one being rude.  CCA has guidelines because they see many, many families.  When one person comes in the door and wants everything stopped just because they walk in the door, that is what I called greedy and rude. 

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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Take me off your list.

AUTHOR: Krystle - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, December 12, 2011

Since I did not work for CCA at the time of this complaint, I would very much appreciate you removing my name and contact information from this list.

As a side note, I'm getting very tired of chasing you around the internet trying to get my name removed.

Krystle Boise

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#9 Consumer Suggestion

Wow, you can see inside people's hearts and minds?

AUTHOR: Madog - (USA)

POSTED: Saturday, April 02, 2011

You possess an amazing skill; you can see inside another person's heart and mind and tell if they are truly a Christian or not? That's amazing, I thought only God could do that. Unless of course, you are God, in which case I do apologize.

If you are not really God himself, plese refrain from thinking that you have some sort of power as a believer; you don't. The bible doesn't say "go seek out the non-Christians and put them down." Your responsiblity to God lies within your own being and not beyond. If the people who run CCA are not truly "Christian" in your opinion, that's between them and God, not you.

There's an old saying that 'an honest man doesn't have to tell everyone he is;' basically, you are known by your actions not your words. The same can be said of true Christians.

CCA does good work for the community, I agree. Over the years we've given them a lot in both donations and money. I don't really care if they are run by Pagans as long as they continue to do good work, they are operating in the spirit of Christianity and that's what matters to me.

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#8 General Comment

TOPIX.com

AUTHOR: URGOINGDOWN - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 15, 2011

Put it all over the net... go to Topix.com and post it there as well... I am doing the same thing just with a church that's not a church... The pastor lives off the money taken in as well as his two grown kids. they have over $200,000.00 in cars and motorcycles 3 houses and 100+ac of land. the pastor will tell you you have demons on you and you need my church.  the pastor will tell you if you go to the Dr. you have no faith. had my grandpa so afraid of the devil and demons he gave his house and property to the church... the pastor will tell you if you ask for a tax donation receipt foe your taxes it's like toy did not give to God...  tells his members to make checks out to him not the church. I can no longer talk to my grandpa cuz of this pastor(my uncle). So I fight the good fight to stop him from hurting people .

God bless you.

Shawn

The (cult) church name is Soldiers of light.

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Responses to Kelly and Stacey

AUTHOR: christ-like - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, February 13, 2011

Response to Kelly:
 
We should love and forgive those who may have offended us or wronged us.  We should bring those issues to them in private, or present them to the Lord in prayer.  For the record, as I previously stated, I believe that CCA is a fine organization and does a lot of good in the community.  No "Christian" organization, church, congregation, fellowship is perfect in any way, other than the perfection of Christ's Spirit who lives in each of us and binds us together as a church.  Christians will always contend with spiritual battles in the church, in the "world", and within ourselves (flesh vs. spirit), and yes, Satan is at work in "Christian" organizations as he is in secular ones. 

Response to Stacey:
[This is for REAL ripoffs not for blogs - and for your information my Mother is not a "wasa" whatever that is - Take it to the streets or here is a big idea write the Dallas Morning News so they can investigate all this "Satanist" activity.OH BTW - My Father is a Reverand who has a Degree in Theology from SMU - how bout you?]
1. Sorry, it was a typo - wasa = was a... Correction - "Like you, my mother was a volunteer at CCA"
2.  I have not accused CCA of Satanist activity.  I believe that CCA is a good organization.
3.  Sadly, unlike your Father, my dad does claim to be a Christian.  But only my Father in heaven truly knows his heart and his future.  Hopefully, he will profess Christ before his day of judgement. 

To reiterate, the issue that I have with CCA is a matter of using the word "Christian" to describe their organization.  My complaint is that CCA is being managed like a not-for-profit community center, not a "Christian" church (body of Christ) under biblical consel.  As a result, needy individuals (financially poor) who encounter CCA volunteers and employees may receive a false impression of a "Christian Community" organization.  In my view (and I know many church leaders would agree), an organization that operates under the name "Christian" should operate under church leadership and biblical counsel.  I would encourage Christian Community Action CEO, Scott Orr to consider reorganizing its management to operate under a "Minister majority", managed by indivuduals qualified for Christian biblical & spiritual counsel.  CCA would likely find this to be a wise decision and find favor in the eyes of the Lord.  Otherwise, I would encourage Mr. Orr and the Christian Community Action Board Members to consider removing the name of "Christ" from its organization's name. I would prefer Mr. Orr to strongly consider the former, but in the latter case, the organization could continue serving the community in the Spirit of Christ... and in the event that a person in need of CCA services encounters a "secular" experience at CCA offices, he or she would not be able to associate such an experience with the name of "Christ" to the extent that volunteers and employees choose to disclose their personal faith in Christ.  In that case, a volunteer/employee could be salt and light, as a personal witness for Christ, not dependent on the name carried by the organization, but the name of Christ carried in each Christian's heart... and in his Church.

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#6 Consumer Comment

Sorry

AUTHOR: Stacey - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, February 12, 2011

I meant Reverend

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#5 Consumer Comment

Take your blog somewhere else

AUTHOR: Stacey - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, February 12, 2011

This is for REAL ripoffs not for blogs - and for your information my Mother is not a "wasa" whatever that is - Take it to the streets or here is a big idea write the Dallas Morning News so they can investigate all this "Satanist" activity.

OH BTW - My Father is a Reverand who has a Degree in Theology from SMU - how bout you?

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#4 Consumer Comment

Satan is alive and well at CCA.

AUTHOR: kelly - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, February 12, 2011

I agree with this report.  More and more people are saying CCA should remove Christian from it's name; even employees.  Satan has a stronghold within CCA.  Management's treatment of employees is often demonic; straight from the pits of Hell. 

If CCA doesn't represent Jesus Christ inside and out, it should not be allowed to use His name.  The public donates to and purchase products from this organization under the illusion that it is "doing God's work."  If instead CCA is doing Satan's work, Christian should be dropped from its name. 

It is not likely that God will allow this to continue.  If the board does not "clean house" it is most probable that God will do it and if not almost certain that CCA's reputation will be severely diminished; if not in man's eyes then certainly in God's.  Ultimately God is who we must give account to, and He judges a man by his heart. 

Jesus said, "Ye shall know them by their fruits..." Matt 7:15-23 

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Galatians 6:7  
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#3 Consumer Comment

Agree with Stacey

AUTHOR: Ramjet - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 05, 2011

Your silly rantings indeed are merely gibberish and are not appropriate for a Ripoff site.

I'd suggest you create a web site or start a proper blog on blogspot.com or somewhere.

All putting Christian in a name does for me is make me extra cautious because there is probably a nefarious reason for it.

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AUTHOR: christ-like - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 05, 2011
Stacey,

Like you, my mother wasa volunteer at CCA, so I also have formed an opinion not solely from my own experience with Christian Community Action, but also from my mom's experiences which she has shared with me. I hope you can agree that it is insulting, even "rude","selfish" and "careless" to use the term "jibberish"todescribe my post. I may not be as educated or as good ofa writer as you are butthe "holier than thou" attitude that you presentis the same type of culture that I have experienced at CCA.



In your rebuttal you stated, "This is no place to post a blog - My mother volunteers with CCA every week through our church. Your report is just a bunch of jibberish so I suggest you take it somewhere else. There is no indication that you were ripped off - this site is for RIP OFFS not blogs."



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That being cleared up, please note that I put forth my best effort to "speak out" against Christian Community Action CCA, per the above description. I have decided not to provide any details about the individuals at CCA that have behaved inappropriately. That is between them and God. However, I can not stand aside and watch an organization use the name "Christ" in the way that CCA does. To reiterate, I believe CCA to be a fine organization that helps thousands of people. However, it is not operating under biblical counsel / church leadership... yet, it is supported financially by the church. This is why I am speaking out. CCA should drop the name "Christian" so that non-Christians who visit CCA do not get the wrong impression.



(Note: There are several Christians who volunteer at CCA that do not need to wear the name "Christian" on their sleeve to be used by God to be light and salt to the community. I am not concerned about such volunteers. I am concernedabout the volunteers who are notoperating under biblical / Godly counsel)



CCA is a very worldly non-profit organzation that helps thousands of needy individuals in Denton county (there are several non-Christian organizationsin the world that do a lot of good for a lot of people)and I hope it continues to do so while removing the term "Christian" from its name. Non-Christian men and women and "babes" who encounter CCA are likely to leave with a false impression of what Christianity is all about. As these individuals are often poor and going through tough times in life, I believe that it is important that they encounter "Christian-named" organizations that are directed under the counsel of God... not bottom-line corporate management.



I hope that all of the Christians at CCA can recognize what I am saying and see the necessity of daily prayer, worship, and bible study in the workplace. I hope that these volunteers can have a deeper relationship with the Lord so they can not only make a "material" difference in their community, but more importantly impact souls spiritually. I hope that the pastors and church leaders in the community can step up and realize the awesome ministry opportunity that CCA has to offer. It is likely that the need for such organizations as CCA will grow int he coming years. My apologies in advance for the gibberish... The only perfect thing about me is -- Jesus Christ who lives in me!


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#1 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: Stacey - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 04, 2011

This is no place to post a blog - My mother volunteers with CCA every week through our church. Your report is just a bunch of jibberish so I suggest you take it somewhere else.

There is no indication that you were ripped off - this site is for RIP OFFS not blogs.

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