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Report: #244498

Complaint Review: City Limits Bakery and Cafe - Nashville Tennessee

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  • City Limits Bakery and Cafe 361 Clofton Dr. Nashville, Tennessee U.S.A.

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An employee (a high school senior, age 17) at City Limits was meeting with her Navy recruiter and called one of the managers to say she was going to be a couple of minutes late. He told her that was fine. She arrived at work less than 5 minutes late.

Her recruiter came to City Limits about 30 minutes later and asked if she could take 5 minutes to speak to his commanding officer. Once again, the manager said it was OK for her to take her break and meet with him.

As she left the counter area, Terry (one of the OWNERS) asked the employee "where are you going?" She explained that the manager had given her permission to speak with her recruiter.

At that point Terry said "no I don't think so, you were already late because of this NAVY CRAP." The employee returned to work after apologizing to her recruiter.

Following this incident, this employee was not given any time to work for 2 weeks. When she called to ask why she was not on the schedule, Terry said "it's not working out, the thing with the Navy recruiter was the last straw."

It is disturbing that a local Nashville employer seems unwilling to work with a student who wishes to serve her country! It's a bakery, not brain surgery! I will no longer visit this establishment and I encourage others to do the same!

Linda
Nashville, Tennessee
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 04/17/2007 06:17 PM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/city-limits-bakery-and-cafe/nashville-tennessee-37221/city-limits-bakery-and-cafe-fired-an-employee-for-wanting-to-take-a-5-minute-break-to-talk-244498. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content

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#15 Consumer Comment

Knee-jerk reactions

AUTHOR: Kayro - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, August 03, 2009
I'm sorry, but this "ripoff report" is emblematic of the problems with sites like this. This person is reporting one side of a story and then using it to paint an entire business as unpatriotic or unsupportive of our armed services. Leaving aside whether or not this story -- which is suspiciously slanted to show the employee in the most favorable light -- is the whole truth or not, I would posit the question of whether or not the patriotism of a business owner has anything to do with the quality of their product or service.

I've frequented this establishment for years and have always found the place to be excellent in their service, friendliness and products. Anyone who would avoid this business based on a knee-jerk reaction to a second-hand post on a web site is seriously misplacing their ire.
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#14 Consumer Comment

Knee-jerk reactions

AUTHOR: Kayro - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, August 03, 2009
I'm sorry, but this "ripoff report" is emblematic of the problems with sites like this. This person is reporting one side of a story and then using it to paint an entire business as unpatriotic or unsupportive of our armed services. Leaving aside whether or not this story -- which is suspiciously slanted to show the employee in the most favorable light -- is the whole truth or not, I would posit the question of whether or not the patriotism of a business owner has anything to do with the quality of their product or service.

I've frequented this establishment for years and have always found the place to be excellent in their service, friendliness and products. Anyone who would avoid this business based on a knee-jerk reaction to a second-hand post on a web site is seriously misplacing their ire.
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#13 Consumer Comment

Knee-jerk reactions

AUTHOR: Kayro - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, August 03, 2009
I'm sorry, but this "ripoff report" is emblematic of the problems with sites like this. This person is reporting one side of a story and then using it to paint an entire business as unpatriotic or unsupportive of our armed services. Leaving aside whether or not this story -- which is suspiciously slanted to show the employee in the most favorable light -- is the whole truth or not, I would posit the question of whether or not the patriotism of a business owner has anything to do with the quality of their product or service.

I've frequented this establishment for years and have always found the place to be excellent in their service, friendliness and products. Anyone who would avoid this business based on a knee-jerk reaction to a second-hand post on a web site is seriously misplacing their ire.
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#12 Consumer Comment

Knee-jerk reactions

AUTHOR: Kayro - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, August 03, 2009
I'm sorry, but this "ripoff report" is emblematic of the problems with sites like this. This person is reporting one side of a story and then using it to paint an entire business as unpatriotic or unsupportive of our armed services. Leaving aside whether or not this story -- which is suspiciously slanted to show the employee in the most favorable light -- is the whole truth or not, I would posit the question of whether or not the patriotism of a business owner has anything to do with the quality of their product or service.

I've frequented this establishment for years and have always found the place to be excellent in their service, friendliness and products. Anyone who would avoid this business based on a knee-jerk reaction to a second-hand post on a web site is seriously misplacing their ire.
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#11 Consumer Suggestion

At the risk of sounding unpatriotic

AUTHOR: Steven - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 29, 2008
Joining the military or anything else of this nature constitutes personal business. Shouldn't personal business be done on personal time (as opposed to scheduling meetings to discuss personal business while at your job). Let's face it do prospective employers come into your current place of employment to discuss opportunities???

The employer has a right to say what an employee can or cannot do during working hours (after all they are paying the employee right).

Also you are forgetting there are no such thing as 5 minute unpaid breaks. As far as the DOL is concerned any break periods less than 15 minutes entitle the employee to be paid.

If the student or whoever would have worked for a few hours then taken a 15 minute break to meet with the recruiter that would have been slightly different.

Why would a recruiter meet a person at their place of employment anyway. Why not at home????
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

At the risk of sounding unpatriotic

AUTHOR: Steven - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 29, 2008
Joining the military or anything else of this nature constitutes personal business. Shouldn't personal business be done on personal time (as opposed to scheduling meetings to discuss personal business while at your job). Let's face it do prospective employers come into your current place of employment to discuss opportunities???

The employer has a right to say what an employee can or cannot do during working hours (after all they are paying the employee right).

Also you are forgetting there are no such thing as 5 minute unpaid breaks. As far as the DOL is concerned any break periods less than 15 minutes entitle the employee to be paid.

If the student or whoever would have worked for a few hours then taken a 15 minute break to meet with the recruiter that would have been slightly different.

Why would a recruiter meet a person at their place of employment anyway. Why not at home????
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#9 Consumer Suggestion

At the risk of sounding unpatriotic

AUTHOR: Steven - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 29, 2008
Joining the military or anything else of this nature constitutes personal business. Shouldn't personal business be done on personal time (as opposed to scheduling meetings to discuss personal business while at your job). Let's face it do prospective employers come into your current place of employment to discuss opportunities???

The employer has a right to say what an employee can or cannot do during working hours (after all they are paying the employee right).

Also you are forgetting there are no such thing as 5 minute unpaid breaks. As far as the DOL is concerned any break periods less than 15 minutes entitle the employee to be paid.

If the student or whoever would have worked for a few hours then taken a 15 minute break to meet with the recruiter that would have been slightly different.

Why would a recruiter meet a person at their place of employment anyway. Why not at home????
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#8 Consumer Suggestion

At the risk of sounding unpatriotic

AUTHOR: Steven - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 29, 2008
Joining the military or anything else of this nature constitutes personal business. Shouldn't personal business be done on personal time (as opposed to scheduling meetings to discuss personal business while at your job). Let's face it do prospective employers come into your current place of employment to discuss opportunities???

The employer has a right to say what an employee can or cannot do during working hours (after all they are paying the employee right).

Also you are forgetting there are no such thing as 5 minute unpaid breaks. As far as the DOL is concerned any break periods less than 15 minutes entitle the employee to be paid.

If the student or whoever would have worked for a few hours then taken a 15 minute break to meet with the recruiter that would have been slightly different.

Why would a recruiter meet a person at their place of employment anyway. Why not at home????
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#7 Consumer Comment

Manager vs owner

AUTHOR: Peter - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 29, 2008
It does not matter if the "manager" approved the alleged 5 minute break. The OWNER has much higher authority than the manager, and if he refuses the break then that is the way it is. Deal with it.

I find it hard to believe that a recruiter would travel out of his way to someone's workplace for only a 5 minute meeting. Sounds to me like the meeting was actually much longer than what the original poster is leading us to believe.
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

wow guys

AUTHOR: Mitchell - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, June 28, 2008
wow guys some of you are ridiculous. in reality she was probably ten minutes late and was taking longer than five minutes on a break but excuse the girl for trying to join the navy. if this lame owner or whoever that got pissed at her was working and needed to better his life he might take a break. get off the girls back. anybody who doesn't support the troops can eat a poisoned tomato for all i care. don't support the politicians who make the policy if you don't want to but the troops just do as they are told just like all good employees. i will never visit this bakery ever.
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AUTHOR: Linda - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, April 19, 2007
I would like to provide some additional information in response to some of the comments posted to this incident.

The employee was less than 5 minutes late for the first time during her employment. She notified her manager and was told that it was "fine."

She received permission from her manager to meet with her recruiter.

Also, she was the one who frequently was assigned the less-than-desirable tasks and completed them as instructed.

Tennessee is an "at-will" employment state and can terminate any employee at any time for any reason. Despite this fact, my concern is the message this sends to the employees and general public regarding the owner's position on choosing to serve one's country.

Thank you.
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#4 Consumer Comment

This has nothing to do with the navy

AUTHOR: Shawangunk - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, April 19, 2007
The issue here is the young girl showed up to work 5 mins. LATE, and then proceeded to take a 5 min. break.

In most cases, showing up 5 mins. late IS your break. You don't get to do both!

Eating establishments depend on its employees to show up on time and work their scheduled shift. Handling such personal business on company time is not only highly inappropriate but unfair to the company who is paying for said time.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Why was this incident "THE LAST STRAW?"

AUTHOR: Marc - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 18, 2007
Maybe that has more to do with your firing than the "Navy Crap."

Do you take numerous smoke breaks, or bathroom breaks whenever there may be a dirty or bothersome task to be done? You said, "It's a bakery, not brain surgery" but what it is, is the owner's investment. But once you're in the Navy, your problem will be over anyways. Good luck.
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#2 Consumer Suggestion

City Limits Bakery And Cafe sure know how to use the system.

AUTHOR: Dennis Ray - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 18, 2007
City Limits Bakery And Cafe may be anti Navy but they sure have learned how to use the American system to get the money they want, all public posted info:

Approved SBA loan:
CITY LIMITS BAKERY AND CAFE, NASHVILLE, TN. SIC5812, $183,500.00, 2001 09 25

Federal Assistance to Recipients in Tennessee:
CITY LIMITS BAKERY AND CAFE, TN $137,625.00

Looks like they are takers and not givers. It's a shame when people take so much from our system and give nothing back. You can only hope they fail miserably and wonder why.
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#1 Consumer Comment

You'll Find This

AUTHOR: Cory - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 18, 2007
In the real world, you'll encounter these type of "people" that don't support our troops. They are the same ones who are protesting the war. Get use to it. Just make sure everybody you know hears about it. That way those of us who do support our troops, won't go to places like that. As a note, I don't agree with this war at all. That doesn't keep me from supporting our troops. God bless our troops and those navy guys too.
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