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Complaint Review: CTU ONLINE - Colorado Springs Colorado

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  • CTU ONLINE 4435 North Chestnut St. Suite E Colorado Springs, Colorado U.S.A.

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I am a member of the US Military and, I liked the idea of getting my degree fast in 15 months is what I was told. I told the admissions adviser that I did not want student loans. I was going to use my G.I. bill and tuition assistants. I was told that I still would have to fill out the financial aid paper work because I would still owe $3000 at the end of my degree program. Do to my workload I was not able to even attend one class but I did log on and looked at my task so I was charged because I logged in. When I ask to withdraw CTU told me they would help me catch up, one of the admissions advisers told she would e-mail me the material for the course from a friend. I must have talk to a dozen people trying to withdraw. Bottom line I now have 3400 dollars in a student loan Wacovia. I did not want a student loan and if the school would have done as I ask any money owed would have been charged to my G.I. bill.

Ora
Ft Worth, Texas
U.S.A.

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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Your reports are very one-sided

AUTHOR: Nicole - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, December 28, 2006
I read the two reports here. I worked for CEC, CTU and AIU's parent company, for 2 years as an advisor. As for the first person, who claims CTU 'ripped him off' - the advisors are sales people, technically, and it is there job not to let you withdraw from school. If you were firm about withdrawing, and put it in writing, and sent it to the school, they would have refunded all of your money because it is ILLEGAL not to. However, you must have let them talk you into continuning, at which point you were billed. I don't think yo were ripped off, you just didn't go about things properly.

As for the second report, which questions CTU's quality of education, I disagree. You get out of your degree what you put into it. Some people tht attend universities cram everything in and complete assignments at the last minute. Some people are always studying. I don't think the quality of education is bad there at all, in fact, I took classes there. It is accelerated, but it still covers all relevant coursework for each class.
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#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Your reports are very one-sided

AUTHOR: Nicole - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, December 28, 2006
I read the two reports here. I worked for CEC, CTU and AIU's parent company, for 2 years as an advisor. As for the first person, who claims CTU 'ripped him off' - the advisors are sales people, technically, and it is there job not to let you withdraw from school. If you were firm about withdrawing, and put it in writing, and sent it to the school, they would have refunded all of your money because it is ILLEGAL not to. However, you must have let them talk you into continuning, at which point you were billed. I don't think yo were ripped off, you just didn't go about things properly.

As for the second report, which questions CTU's quality of education, I disagree. You get out of your degree what you put into it. Some people tht attend universities cram everything in and complete assignments at the last minute. Some people are always studying. I don't think the quality of education is bad there at all, in fact, I took classes there. It is accelerated, but it still covers all relevant coursework for each class.
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#5 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Your reports are very one-sided

AUTHOR: Nicole - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, December 28, 2006
I read the two reports here. I worked for CEC, CTU and AIU's parent company, for 2 years as an advisor. As for the first person, who claims CTU 'ripped him off' - the advisors are sales people, technically, and it is there job not to let you withdraw from school. If you were firm about withdrawing, and put it in writing, and sent it to the school, they would have refunded all of your money because it is ILLEGAL not to. However, you must have let them talk you into continuning, at which point you were billed. I don't think yo were ripped off, you just didn't go about things properly.

As for the second report, which questions CTU's quality of education, I disagree. You get out of your degree what you put into it. Some people tht attend universities cram everything in and complete assignments at the last minute. Some people are always studying. I don't think the quality of education is bad there at all, in fact, I took classes there. It is accelerated, but it still covers all relevant coursework for each class.
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Your reports are very one-sided

AUTHOR: Nicole - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, December 28, 2006
I read the two reports here. I worked for CEC, CTU and AIU's parent company, for 2 years as an advisor. As for the first person, who claims CTU 'ripped him off' - the advisors are sales people, technically, and it is there job not to let you withdraw from school. If you were firm about withdrawing, and put it in writing, and sent it to the school, they would have refunded all of your money because it is ILLEGAL not to. However, you must have let them talk you into continuning, at which point you were billed. I don't think yo were ripped off, you just didn't go about things properly.

As for the second report, which questions CTU's quality of education, I disagree. You get out of your degree what you put into it. Some people tht attend universities cram everything in and complete assignments at the last minute. Some people are always studying. I don't think the quality of education is bad there at all, in fact, I took classes there. It is accelerated, but it still covers all relevant coursework for each class.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Step Back and Look at what is going on...

AUTHOR: Stan - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, December 22, 2006
Hello,
I am currently a student of CTU Online. I have read the comments in several sections, and though I would state my situation as a non-biased view of what is happening. First some background:

My school is paid for by my employer, GE. GE steered me to CTU, (or actually AIU first since they are "education partners"). I ran away from AIU because of the horror stories I heard from AIU, so I can not comment on that school.

The CTU online school though, I am currently 45% finished with my BS degree. The classes are difficult in that you have to understand the subject matter, but there are no tests performed... only posting of documents, spreadsheets, and powerpoint files. These all have to be in APA format (was not told about this before starting this course work.. research about APA and how to use it before signing up!)

I noticed that the student manual talks about testing, and the multimedia online information talks about tests too... There are none. There are a series of 10 assignments with one being a group project. I have passed 8 of my 20 classes so far with all A's in the classes.

Most of the classes, the subject matter is vaguely relevant in relation to the actual subject matter. My impression is that the classwork is a way to "get your paper", and have an introduction to the actual subjects since each class is only 5 weeks long, and you have two at a time. The major emphasis seems to be on the APA formating more than the actual information, HMM.

My resulting opinion is that the school is not a good environment to learn from, but good to get your paper of completion (degree certificate).
This school is supported by GE again, so the idea of employers not accepting their degree is not true. The quality of learning is minimal at best because of the short time and vagueness of the classes to the subject matter.

At first the price seems high, but on investigation of traditional schools and even their online programs, they all fall in the same range of price basically.

CTU provides books, windows operating system, Office, but no APA software or much in the line of souce materials (they do have a 'cybrary' research center, but it is mainly just shortcuts to public articles on the internet, and nothing of physical substance)

If you are in an industry and need a degree that is legitimate quickly, this is your ticket. If you want to learn about the materials covered, look somewhere else.

I do supposed that you could learn as you progress in your schooling, but the retension after an intense 5 weeks is not so good, and besides there is another 5 week period immediately following the end of your set you are in. You simply learn to stop trying to remember that stuff from last session to focus on the new stuff for this month!

I hope that gives you guys an idea of the situation that is truely in CTU. I think a lot of the complaints are from people that thought it was a quick blow-off diploma thing, and found out that they have to actually work (I have spent MANY times past midnight nursing a sick project!). These people want to know the materials after completion or want to just pass through with little effort and work.

The school work is tedious, not very retainable, and very stressful in the fast paced environment (not to speak of the shock of having to immediately know about APA formating - Worst part of the school).

Remember that most of the real students are refered to CTU for getting their degree for the job (I asked many of my fellow students and found this to be the rule..)

Government retraining grants or military retraining stuff does not work very well as the school is geared to this employer sponsored type of student, where the paper needs to be in hand in 15 months.

I thank GE for paying for my school so far, My associate degree is through a community college, so the rest is CTU so far.

You are very welcome to ask me amy questions and I will answer the best that I can, and I swear that this information is true and very accurate as of 12/22/06.

Stan **** (CTU Student currently)
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#2 Consumer Comment

Step Back and Look at what is going on...

AUTHOR: Stan - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, December 22, 2006
Hello,
I am currently a student of CTU Online. I have read the comments in several sections, and though I would state my situation as a non-biased view of what is happening. First some background:

My school is paid for by my employer, GE. GE steered me to CTU, (or actually AIU first since they are "education partners"). I ran away from AIU because of the horror stories I heard from AIU, so I can not comment on that school.

The CTU online school though, I am currently 45% finished with my BS degree. The classes are difficult in that you have to understand the subject matter, but there are no tests performed... only posting of documents, spreadsheets, and powerpoint files. These all have to be in APA format (was not told about this before starting this course work.. research about APA and how to use it before signing up!)

I noticed that the student manual talks about testing, and the multimedia online information talks about tests too... There are none. There are a series of 10 assignments with one being a group project. I have passed 8 of my 20 classes so far with all A's in the classes.

Most of the classes, the subject matter is vaguely relevant in relation to the actual subject matter. My impression is that the classwork is a way to "get your paper", and have an introduction to the actual subjects since each class is only 5 weeks long, and you have two at a time. The major emphasis seems to be on the APA formating more than the actual information, HMM.

My resulting opinion is that the school is not a good environment to learn from, but good to get your paper of completion (degree certificate).
This school is supported by GE again, so the idea of employers not accepting their degree is not true. The quality of learning is minimal at best because of the short time and vagueness of the classes to the subject matter.

At first the price seems high, but on investigation of traditional schools and even their online programs, they all fall in the same range of price basically.

CTU provides books, windows operating system, Office, but no APA software or much in the line of souce materials (they do have a 'cybrary' research center, but it is mainly just shortcuts to public articles on the internet, and nothing of physical substance)

If you are in an industry and need a degree that is legitimate quickly, this is your ticket. If you want to learn about the materials covered, look somewhere else.

I do supposed that you could learn as you progress in your schooling, but the retension after an intense 5 weeks is not so good, and besides there is another 5 week period immediately following the end of your set you are in. You simply learn to stop trying to remember that stuff from last session to focus on the new stuff for this month!

I hope that gives you guys an idea of the situation that is truely in CTU. I think a lot of the complaints are from people that thought it was a quick blow-off diploma thing, and found out that they have to actually work (I have spent MANY times past midnight nursing a sick project!). These people want to know the materials after completion or want to just pass through with little effort and work.

The school work is tedious, not very retainable, and very stressful in the fast paced environment (not to speak of the shock of having to immediately know about APA formating - Worst part of the school).

Remember that most of the real students are refered to CTU for getting their degree for the job (I asked many of my fellow students and found this to be the rule..)

Government retraining grants or military retraining stuff does not work very well as the school is geared to this employer sponsored type of student, where the paper needs to be in hand in 15 months.

I thank GE for paying for my school so far, My associate degree is through a community college, so the rest is CTU so far.

You are very welcome to ask me amy questions and I will answer the best that I can, and I swear that this information is true and very accurate as of 12/22/06.

Stan **** (CTU Student currently)
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#1 Consumer Comment

Step Back and Look at what is going on...

AUTHOR: Stan - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, December 22, 2006
Hello,
I am currently a student of CTU Online. I have read the comments in several sections, and though I would state my situation as a non-biased view of what is happening. First some background:

My school is paid for by my employer, GE. GE steered me to CTU, (or actually AIU first since they are "education partners"). I ran away from AIU because of the horror stories I heard from AIU, so I can not comment on that school.

The CTU online school though, I am currently 45% finished with my BS degree. The classes are difficult in that you have to understand the subject matter, but there are no tests performed... only posting of documents, spreadsheets, and powerpoint files. These all have to be in APA format (was not told about this before starting this course work.. research about APA and how to use it before signing up!)

I noticed that the student manual talks about testing, and the multimedia online information talks about tests too... There are none. There are a series of 10 assignments with one being a group project. I have passed 8 of my 20 classes so far with all A's in the classes.

Most of the classes, the subject matter is vaguely relevant in relation to the actual subject matter. My impression is that the classwork is a way to "get your paper", and have an introduction to the actual subjects since each class is only 5 weeks long, and you have two at a time. The major emphasis seems to be on the APA formating more than the actual information, HMM.

My resulting opinion is that the school is not a good environment to learn from, but good to get your paper of completion (degree certificate).
This school is supported by GE again, so the idea of employers not accepting their degree is not true. The quality of learning is minimal at best because of the short time and vagueness of the classes to the subject matter.

At first the price seems high, but on investigation of traditional schools and even their online programs, they all fall in the same range of price basically.

CTU provides books, windows operating system, Office, but no APA software or much in the line of souce materials (they do have a 'cybrary' research center, but it is mainly just shortcuts to public articles on the internet, and nothing of physical substance)

If you are in an industry and need a degree that is legitimate quickly, this is your ticket. If you want to learn about the materials covered, look somewhere else.

I do supposed that you could learn as you progress in your schooling, but the retension after an intense 5 weeks is not so good, and besides there is another 5 week period immediately following the end of your set you are in. You simply learn to stop trying to remember that stuff from last session to focus on the new stuff for this month!

I hope that gives you guys an idea of the situation that is truely in CTU. I think a lot of the complaints are from people that thought it was a quick blow-off diploma thing, and found out that they have to actually work (I have spent MANY times past midnight nursing a sick project!). These people want to know the materials after completion or want to just pass through with little effort and work.

The school work is tedious, not very retainable, and very stressful in the fast paced environment (not to speak of the shock of having to immediately know about APA formating - Worst part of the school).

Remember that most of the real students are refered to CTU for getting their degree for the job (I asked many of my fellow students and found this to be the rule..)

Government retraining grants or military retraining stuff does not work very well as the school is geared to this employer sponsored type of student, where the paper needs to be in hand in 15 months.

I thank GE for paying for my school so far, My associate degree is through a community college, so the rest is CTU so far.

You are very welcome to ask me amy questions and I will answer the best that I can, and I swear that this information is true and very accurate as of 12/22/06.

Stan **** (CTU Student currently)
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