Complaint Review: Kellys Propane - Mansfield Ohio
- Kellys Propane 1925 N Main St Mansfield, Ohio U.S.A.
- Phone: 415-526-4271
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- Category: Utility Companies
Kellys Propane Unfair Practices Mansfield Ohio
*Author of original report: Prepaid = Estimate????
*Consumer Comment: You are so wrong
*Consumer Comment: My Experience
*Consumer Comment: Jennifer
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: You Misunderstand
*Consumer Suggestion: What do you think 'approximately' means?
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I rented a home from a landlord who had a propane heating furnace and unfortunately Kelly's Propane was the name on the tank. I did not have the $2,500 to buy my own tank nor the $1,000 + to get another company to come in and setup their tank facilities.
Being on a fixed income, I contacted Kelly's in January 2006 about a refill. I explained the meter on my tank read 10% at the time. I was quoted (approximately) $550.00 to fill it to the maximum of 80% capacity. I went to Kelly's and paid them in CASH.
Two days later, a driver came out to fill my tank. I got a phone call laster that week stating the driver "over filled" my tank and that I would have to PAY the difference. Taken aback, I explained that it was THEIR mistake and thus I should not have to pay anything. The clerk's first words were, "You can either pay it or we will close your account and repossess the tank!"
I then suggeste they send the guy out to remove the 10 gallons of fuel to which the reply went like, "Sorry, we won't do that. It's our policy to keep costs down so the responsibility is yours!"
Then I suggested to let the $25.00 amount ride until the next refueling which was also denied by the clerk.
(Being on a limited income really makes for a difficult situation)
I tried calling Kelly on various occasions and even asked the landlord to call on my behalf. No go. Kelly's accounting staff REFUSED to listen to reason.
In April, my tank was repossessed. Again due to Kelly's Propane own ADMITTED error!
Now Kelly's refuses to relinquish the difference of the remaining amount - $250.00 of fuel! They claim the landlord signed an agreement but he states he never did.
I explained to the accountant that by screwing over a customer for a mere $25.00 they are both unethical as well as stupid for not considering the long term benefits of future fill ups! In other words, they are penny wise but pound FOOLISH!
The bottom line is this: If you ever need propane in the Richland, Ashland, Morrow, Wayne or Knox county areas, be advised of said business practices by Kelly's Propane!
Ken
Mansfield, Ohio
U.S.A.
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#6 Author of original report
Prepaid = Estimate????
AUTHOR: Ken - ()
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 29, 2014
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 27, 2014
disstill wrote:
"so long as the kellys tank is there it gets filled to 80% you got an estoment if it takes 25 more bucks to fill to 80 so be it that how the contract between kellys and your land lord works"
Look genius, obviously you have a reading comprehension problem so I will try to dumb this down so you can understand it better. I went in to Kelly's office and PRE-PAID for my refill. Hello?? I did not ask for any "estomate" (nice spelling by the way!) I asked for it to be refilled and I asked the woman specifically for the EXACT amount and then I gave the woman CA$H. The payment receipt she gave me said nothing about 'estimate' so you are full of it, bub. I still have the receipt.
"2 80% fillup a year unless you owen the tank"
No Kelly's are rip off artists and I have cheefully told dozens of people about how crooked and deceitful they are. Also I fully understood that the amount she quoted was for 80% capacity so you bring that up several times obviously to remind yourself of this fact because it is a moot point in this bone of contention.
"it was 25 bucks and they yould give yoiu time to pay it if not for you being rude have used them for the last 10 years and many of my neighbors have also and we had no prolebms"
Here's the brilliance of Kelly's Propane: For honking off an otherise happy customer over a $25 error on THEIR part, they basically pissed away approximately $15,600 (using the rates of 2006 not adjusted for inflation). I usually filled that tank three times each Winter and if we figure $650/refill, that's $1,950 a season. Multiply that by 8 years now and you're looking at $15,600 Kelly's decided to throw away in their hubris.
Do you understand me? Kelly's stole at least $200 worth of MY propane that I had PRE-PAID for to satisfy their pathetic $25 error. This is the kind of moronic, hillbilly company acting as a fuel supplier and woe unto anyone who dares do business with them! When they stole my tank, I called Suburban Propane over in Tiro and they treated me well. In fact, when I told them of Kelly's theft of MY propane, they shook their heads dumbfounded as did many people I've told about Kelly's schlock outfit.
For a lousy $25 mistake, you've essentially shoved away a client who pre-paid you in cash without any hassle over price. Not long after Suburban, I made all of the necessary changes and switched to natural gas where the prices are much cheaper than propane.
#5 Consumer Comment
You are so wrong
AUTHOR: dfissell - ()
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 27, 2014
so long as the kellys tank is there it gets filled to 80% you got an estoment if it takes 25 more bucks to fill to 80 so be it that how the contract between kellys and your land lord works 2 80% fillup a year unless you owen the tank it was 25 bucks and they yould give yoiu time to pay it if not for you being rude have used them for the last 10 years and many of my neighbors have also and we had no prolebms
#4 Consumer Comment
My Experience
AUTHOR: Cory - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, July 31, 2006
Years ago, a local company use to charge a flat $25 to fill your tank, used for your BBQ. It didn't matter if it was half full or empty. Then the big companies got in on the action and the price to trade in your tank was either $12 or $14. Now they've raised it to $14 or $18. Talk about a ripoff.
#3 Consumer Comment
Jennifer
AUTHOR: Lori - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 30, 2006
First, I have to say you've obviously never heated with propane. His payment, made to the company was for a set amount of fuel. The driver is very capable of meting out the amount that was ordered. I purchase our propane by the gal, ie: I decide how much I think it's going to take to get me to the percentage that I want to be at, call the company for delivery, and write out a check to hand him when he gets here. In all of the years that I have lived here, there have only been overages twice, in pennies, not dollars. (and both were written off by the company).
And they CAN remove overages from your tank if it's that important to them. Thats why companies prefer that you have one of their tanks instead of your own. A mistake (or non payment) on a customer owned tank can cost them because they have little recourse. I worked for a small propane outfit, and when we had a non pay, we would attempt to recover any of the gas that still remained in the tank.....if the customer was smart, they had padlocked the lid shut, and we were out of luck.
Good Luck Ken, and find a better provider. Ask around because propane companies have a strong reputation in communities, and it seems everyone is willing to tell you their experience, good or bad. Hunt for the best 'lock-in' price, which should be kicking in about now. Often you will get a 'new customer' special just for a new set, so make sure and ask.
#2 REBUTTAL Individual responds
You Misunderstand
AUTHOR: Darren - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, July 29, 2006
You state yourself that the quote was an approximate, not an absolute. $575 is very very close to $550. Myself, I would be pleased the actual figure was within 0.045% of the quoted figure and pay it.
You misunderstand me. When I say approximate, I'm trying to remember the exact amount the bill was for is all. I was quoted and told it would be $547.97 (I found my receipt!) and the actual date was 12/30/05 and was received by Denise.
When you get quotes in the future, if you cannot afford to go over a little, ask for an absolute fixed quote. Do not accept an approximation, as you will, as in this case, be liable for the difference.
Algeria, again you misunderstand. These trucks are capable of putting out fuel to the EXACT penny. This isn't like an estimate to fix a roof.
This company has a history of this sort of thing. Since I had my own problem with them, I've done some checking and found several other residents who've switched to another company.
I plan on taking action against Kelly's Propane!
#1 Consumer Suggestion
What do you think 'approximately' means?
AUTHOR: Jennifer - (Algeria)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, July 22, 2006
You state yourself that the quote was an approximate, not an absolute. $575 is very very close to $550. Myself, I would be pleased the actual figure was within 0.045% of the quoted figure and pay it.
When you get quotes in the future, if you cannot afford to go over a little, ask for an absolute fixed quote. Do not accept an approximation, as you will, as in this case, be liable for the difference.
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