Report: #1039495

Complaint Review: mack zidan unlimited lifestyles - Internet

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mack zidan unlimited lifestyles Zidan Mohammed MACK ZIDAN RIP OFF ARTIST SCAMMER Internet

*Consumer Comment: AMEN

*Consumer Comment: Mack Mills

*Consumer Comment: Mack is the REAL Deal!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Professor Henry Higgins and Heather Dobrott at it again.

*Consumer Comment: Who to contact if you are a victim:

*Consumer Comment: "It's time we expose theses clowns..." - Gregory Perdriel

*Consumer Comment: Greg... im giving you til midnight eastern standard time to explain yourself. (I wont judge)

*Consumer Comment: Chuck Marshall on Board!!!

*Consumer Comment: I feel I must past on information

*Consumer Comment: Crickets

*Consumer Comment: Not hating, just asking ;-)

*Consumer Comment: Mack and Gregory Perdriel

*Consumer Comment: Mack – The Man The Myth The Legend

*Consumer Comment: The Truth About Mack Zidan

*Consumer Comment: Mack always make money. - $8 million ain't chump change.

*Consumer Comment: Quit hating

*Consumer Comment: Mack are you there?

*Consumer Comment: Any more testimonials?

*Consumer Comment: Mack Is A Genius!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: *UPDATE* MACK'S Rebuttal: All of these complaints are Defamous and Libelous LIES (PROOF on Live Video)

*Consumer Comment: Mack is the biggest fraud in GVO and Empower.

*Consumer Comment: Mack is a thief and will finally be exposed!!

*Consumer Comment: Mack Zidan is UNETHICAL and steal from his members

*General Comment: You guys are idiots!

*Consumer Comment: Robert Mercado is not a scammer.

*Consumer Suggestion: Don't believe the testimonials

*Consumer Comment: He took my money and disappear

*General Comment: Can't fix stupid...

*General Comment: Is Mack Zidan Really a scam?

*Consumer Comment: Lies, Lies Lies - The Report is False

*General Comment: mack zidan

*Consumer Comment: Mack Zidan is a scam artist!

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Okay so if you got any emails from this guy by the name of mack zidan, its time to run run run the other way. This guy is absolutely unbelievablely witthout a conscience. You might have ended up on his email list by accident . Wichita want to do immediately is report his emails every and all of them to your email provider abuse@gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc.. ok so here is why. What he does is taking vantage if people trying to make extra money from home . Hey targets naive hard working peeps the 1 the dream of working for themselves in owning your own business. With the people don't realize who were on his list is it there simply a target in a victim it is greedy malicious in moral behavior . He promises them in directly if they follow his simple easy system with no marketing experience at all they can earn up towards over 100,000 dollars month. Well we with common sense know the falacy of this lie. But people out of desperation believe this hope. Worst part about the whole situation is that he charges people extra to use his special system or website at 100 plus a month to generate leads. Ready.... The leads stay with Mack not the person. So he's lying to get people into his system then he has them buy advertising the leads come through his website supposedly to go to the new signup but rather line Macks pocket. He's the scum of the earth. Game over for your ponzi scheme Mack. You have the balls to flaunt your fraudulent behavior. .. Today we chop them off. By the way your high school teacher was right.... You will never amount to anything. You haven't and you never will amount to something. You've ammounted to a dirt bag. You grew up poor and you think you have some right to be rich by preying on the weak? I think not, you again will die poor. I've got more respect for a bank robber than you. At least a bank robber looks you in the eye when he takes your money. You look into your little YouTube camera. Dirtbag. Folks don't take the bait or drink Mack's coolaide it will drain your very savings you have. Instead get educated about marketing in general and helo make the world more productive. Instead of pushing these scams.

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#1 Consumer Comment


AUTHOR: Tony - ()

AMEN! I thought Mack would have been done by now. No one was posting. I'm sure glad he is not getting away. Took my for a G. Hit me up, we can do a private chat so it is not public. I can give you my details if it helps. I saw on Facebook, Mack is in Jamacia. Let's suprise him when he gets back.  Hit me up bro!

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#2 Consumer Comment

Mack Mills

AUTHOR: Victima - ()

It ain't over until we see justice. I'm sorry how you might feel, and maybe you are right. Maybe I am wasting my time. But no one crosses my path, or screws me and gets away with it. Whether it be a few hundred dollars or even a penny. I don't let any man treat me lower. He can change his profile to Mack Mills, or any alias. His past will come back to bite him. Rest assure. Karma's a b****, especially with the U.S. Judicial system. Will keep everyone posted as I get more new news. Stay tune for the next 6 months. Maybe even sooner. Or you can follow him on Facebook and watch his lifestyle. When the hammer hits, there won't be any status updates.



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#3 Consumer Comment

Mack is the REAL Deal!

AUTHOR: TT Day - ()

Coming from a FORMER hater. For the last year, I’ve been following Mack around with a hatred. Had really thought he screwed me with my leads. I swore he was going to going to the slammers.

To make a long story short. He is the real deal. He tells you like it is. His business concepts are really simple, but it takes, patience, money, time, and work. Just like everything else.

So everyone on this board hating on Mack, don’t waste your time like I did. Work your business and move forward.

@Comeback365, it ain’t happening. Mack is without a doubt VERY connected from the top to pull strings.  I don’t know who you are to start this post, but from reading it, you know more details than most. But as of December 5th,  last Thursday, it’s over. Give it up. Just so you know, I know what I’m talking about, look at the document numbers, ends in 4566. Boom

Let’s quit hating on Mack and move forward. Best wishes to you Mack.  

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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Professor Henry Higgins and Heather Dobrott at it again.

AUTHOR: ArrestHenryandHeather - ()

It's easy to see in tone of the post that these comments are coming from cyber criminals professor Henry Higgins and Heather Dobrott Soap box mom from RealScam.  

Mack has the money to finally bring these criminals to justice.  Breaking laws and blackmailing marketers is not scam busting. Sabena Hearher to produce the names of people who hurt others anonymously.  

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#5 Consumer Comment

Who to contact if you are a victim:

AUTHOR: Dee - ()

If you feel you are a victim of an Internet Scam or Postal Scam, please report to the correct authorities:

Below is 3 links to report to. If there is enough complaints they will most likely do an investigation.

1.Internet Crime Compliant Center

2.Federal Trade Commission

3.United State Postal Inspection Service

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#6 Consumer Comment

"It's time we expose theses clowns..." - Gregory Perdriel

AUTHOR: Greg's new BF - ()

Calling Greg Perderial out.

I got word tonight you had called people out and try to make them look bad. You got some f#$%ing nerves. You want to mess with other people's business? Look at your own my man.

But you know what? I'm not hating. Two grown ups can play the SAME game. Since it is an honest and based on facts let's keep it REAL.

I'm going to follow "Chris's" style and similarily ask you and Mack (since this is his thread) the same question you ask others.

"Can anyone attest to making money with Gregory Perdriel or Mack Zidan? When I say money, at least $1,000 a month after expenses."

You guys both seem to have large organizations, so let's see what percentage are actually making more than they spend.

Let's Discuss

If anyone reading this who know's Gregory, let him know this post. I'd like to call Gregory to the stand.

1.How many people are in your group?
2.What percentage of them are actually making over $1,000/month?

This is just the beginning my friend. I will watch and investigate their new system with a magifying glass.


If anyone reading this is about to join Gregory's system. Please keep a honest log.

1.What date did you sign up?
2.How much you spend in the program?
3.Did you recoup your money?
4.How long did it take you to make at least $1,000/month net?
5.After 90 days, did Greogry help you make the money you desired?
6.Were you able to get any refunds if asked.

I want to see if his system is legit or a scam.

Talk soon. Will be back. Trust me on this one.

Greg's new BF -signing off

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#7 Consumer Comment

Greg... im giving you til midnight eastern standard time to explain yourself. (I wont judge)

AUTHOR: Chris - ()

Greg... im giving you til midnight eastern standard time to explain yourself. (I wont judge)

Everyone join us in on this board... or face the inevitable. I need everybody to tag everyone who has worked with Greg Perdriel (especially leaders) & lets all have a discussion.

Has anyone join MCA or Wake Up Now at the advice or recommendation of Greg Perdriel and actually making at least $1,000 a month net?

I and a lot of people want to know the honest truth.

Greg has probably recruited hundreds or maybe thousands of people so let's see if anyone following Greg's advice is making money.

By the way, Greg is coming out with a system with Mack soon. I am open for discussion on a 30... 60... 90 day on results.

So if anyone joining the new system at the advice or recommendation of Greg, please post your results. Let us know how much you spent, how many hours you worked, and how much you actually made by using the system.

Please be honest so everyone reading this can see if the system you and Mack are involved with have good potential for the average person.



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#8 Consumer Comment

Chuck Marshall on Board!!!

AUTHOR: FabulousG - ()

All you haters can go eat a you know what. Greg Perdriel and Mack about to launch the biggest system in the industry. Hold on to your downline. That’s if you can. WUN about to blow up. Word on the streets is Greg’s (Mack)  system is coming soon. Can’t wait to see all you haters broke and watch us. Wait, you already broke. Chuck Marshall jumped on board. He just notified everyone on his list. Smart dude. 90 days from now, all you haters gonna cry wanting to join. Action takers make MONEY!

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#9 Consumer Comment

I feel I must past on information

AUTHOR: Chris - ()

"I'm not trying to bash or be mean or egg on... but i feel i must pass on information... (as should anybody reading this ;-) )"

Greg Perdriel is about to launch a new system with the help or "advice" of Mack ;-O (However you want to take that)

Since a lot of people will be looking at investigating or joining, maybe they should know more about Greg's "followers"

Mack is a follower in this case but let's keep Mack out of this one since everyone already knows.

New capture pages states Greg made $145,961 last year.

I do see he has "followers" Yes take that literally. My question is how many of those followers have made money?

I can see it's a whole crew and they feel good agreeing and bashing other companies. But at the end of the day, who beside Greg is making money?

If 100, 500, or maybe 1,000 people joined Greg in MCA, how many actually made money? It's good to follow and be comic, but how many people actually made at least $1,000 a month?

Let's be honest and not bash, lie, etc. Just the truth. I want to know how many people who followed Greg's advice is making at least $1,000. I asked that of Greg's followers with MCA because that's where I suppose he made the $145,961.

Of course, in a few months, I might ask how many people have made money in WUN. (Without bringing over their downline from MCA)

Or if you followed Greg and did not make money, I would love to hear that too (as should anybody reading this ;-)

Greg, if you are out there and reading this. I have a question for you, "How do you sleep at night?" Just a random thought. No bashing, no hating, just looking for the truth here.

2-3 weeks and the new system will be out. I'll probably start a new thread so we can see if anyone actually joins and makes money. I'm having a little hard time getting ideas how to start these threads.

Maybe I will just follow Greg and learn from him. See what he writes about other companies and then ask him the same questions. Seems fair... Seems like a plan. I guess the ball is in his court. I'd just have to see what he writes...


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#10 Consumer Comment


AUTHOR: Vetofthegame - ()

Dude dont hold your breath waiting for an answer, this guy disappeared, wisely. A list of 200k against you is like the island of bermuda being invaded by n**i Germany. Lol. Wake up folks, and d**n it stop apologizing to criminals. Has mack made you rich stop kissing a*s. Not you bro directly Im speaking to the while thread. Bernard Madoff was admired as a genius when all along he was only a thief. Now he's admired in a whole different way behind bars. They call it fresh meat. Mack would be a poppeyes dinner meal. He's ghost get it through your heads by now the bbb and attorney's general are all over him like white on rice. Wouldn't be surprised if postal mail inspector was too. Btw now were talking federal so all that money you've been stealing, you gonna need it mack. Easy come easy go.

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#11 Consumer Comment

Not hating, just asking ;-)

AUTHOR: Chris - ()

Gregory Perdriel and Mack coming out with a new system soon.

How many people that join will actually make money?

Actually forget about waiting for the system.

Let's talk about Gregory's MCA business or even Wake up Now.

"How many of these people that join him have made 1k monthly at least?"

Let's discuss...

Not hating, just asking ;-)

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#12 Consumer Comment

Mack and Gregory Perdriel

AUTHOR: Chris - ()

So I go online tonight I heard Mack is now switching teams and working with Gregory Perdriel. So this guy goes on and knocks Pure Leverage, which is one of Mack's business. Why in the hell is Mack working with Gregory Perdriel? Not only that, he even knocks Vic Strizheus which I believe is also in Mack's downline in EN. Something fishy here. Is Mack owned by Gregory Perdriel. Dude is running Mack in my opinion. Come to find out this homey living in an apartment trying to make people think he living large.

Michael, you should do a survey to see how many people who join Gregory Perdriel actually makes money. I would love to see this one. Since he wants to be "honest." Let's play the honest game. Who has join Gregory and made money? Let's hear some testionials. When I say make money... I mean at least $1,000 a month after expense. Honestly, this boy has some nerve to blast everyone. Let's see if he is honest. Let's see if his people are actually making money.

If I don't see a survey up, I'd probably post one myself in a few days. It's just wrong to go on blasting people. The truth is people should ask him if his people are making money. I know this is Mack's thread. If it gets big, I'll do a seperate thread to learn the truth about Gregory. By the way, he is marketing Wake up Now, and putting together a system with Mack. Let's see his claims for his new system and then ask:

So did anyone learn how to make $_______ in ___ days with Gregory Perdriel and WAKE UP NOW and ACTUALLY have that happen to them??? (Gregory, this sounds kind of funny when it WILL be reversed on you)  

Game recognize game. We gonna have fun with this one.

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#13 Consumer Comment

Mack – The Man The Myth The Legend

AUTHOR: Garcias - ()

I’m up here in Denver at an awesome event, looking to find Mack. So far no cigars. I just gots to beat through the crowd to find him. Maybe do up a video together.

If the man can recruit 2000 personal, I have to bow down to the king! Looking forward to learning some golden nuggets from someone with experience and not these fake gurus. Numbers don’t lie baby!

Mack if you out there, holla! Prosperity!

BTW… Me and my crew were getting our grub on at Izakaya Den talking up Mastermind plans and as were talking about Mack two people came us and ask us if we knew where to find Mack. The funny thing is they are not even in Empower. Mack is like a celebrity even to people outside our world.

I’m in my hotel because I can’t sleep and spent about 10 minutes reading this stuff here. All I can say is haters!!!!!! Hogwash. If you can’t do what Mack does, don’t hate. Just respect the game and let him teach you a thing or two.

If I can learn 10% what he knows, that’s like $800K in my pocket. It’s fun to dream.

Thee Garcias

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#14 Consumer Comment

The Truth About Mack Zidan

AUTHOR: Marketing Tenure - ()

Ok so you can be set free by Internet marketing and live the freedom lifestyle but its going to take blood sweat and tears like everything else. 80 20 rule 20 percent make up for the 80 that do nothing. Which are you?  Macks the 20, but..... at what cost. I've seen his game it's selfish and greedy. He don't educate you a bit. Half of his so called legal documents are misspelled that should tell you he's a clown. Now I speak from experience I could have made myself 10x richer than mack back in the 90's stock market and perfectly legal. I didn't. Why?  Because it's immoral and I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. So I earned a healthy living worked hard and planned right. Now i market for fun, not because I have to. Get educated not a 4 year but learn one market like Seo or blogging. But don't think for one minute you going to just mail macks postcards and get rich. Haha. Lol. You making him rich. Mack look homey I've got 10 years on you, stop while you ahead. It only takes a few attorney generals to have you bitting off all your nails driving that Bentley or whatever in circles. What goes around comes around grew up like mack early joined a gang and woke up. But waking up doesn't mean getting legally or semi legally wealthy. This ain't a music video wake up smell the prison bars. I give you props for determination but Mack, determination in the wrong direction is equally as bad. Its not the 90's no more and people are getting popped white collar like they were back on the streets. Chuck Marshall too, better watch out. I gave you fair warning beware. Now this is all I can say, eyes are in the sky so you'd better humble yourself and listen up before you end up like LL in too deep. So my final advice is get weathly, not n***** rich,  btw I'm black. True wealth lasts with peace and contentment. You think life's the dream you've been dying to live ain't that pretty. Ok enough you get the point. Oh one more thing, dude who wrote the original article has some sense, I do have more respect for a bank robbery than a robber with a hd video recorder. Folks point is be neither of them and wise up fast. Im out. Bk style to the fullest.

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#15 Consumer Comment

Mack always make money. - $8 million ain't chump change.

AUTHOR: Dave - ()

In this business it's all about branding yourself.

Mack is good at what he does because he brands himself.

What people do after they join, that's up to them and not Mack's responsibility. Everybody is over 18 and makes their own decision. Don't gamble what you can't afford to lose.

I do have to agree with Mack that if you do not like his system, don't join. But the simple fact is 99.9% of the people do not read what they are getting into.

Is that Mack's fault? NOPE, it's the prospects fault for not reading between the lines.

You wouldn't sign a business contract without reading it, why would you join an internet business and not read the fine print?

If Mack takes your leads and uses for himself, it's perfectly legal because it states it in his terms of use. Again, read it or don't join.

That's guru slicknest there. The secret is brand yourself.

95% of the people won't make it because of laziness.

I'll give you another example since we're on topic. I won't name full names so SEO won't catch this.

But just to show you how things work.

Mack works with a guy, let's call him "White Mike"

This is where it gets slick. One of the selling points of signing up is a free daily mastermind. White Mike lets you copy and paste his stuff on your blog daily.

But who is it branding? You guest it....White Mike.

He use to let you copy and paste his text, but now most of the time done on video. Share that video and it brands White Mike.

Pure brilliance. White Mike has even said he get's signups because people Google him. Just look at the ______ Crew. Why are they growing? Because everyone is branding them. I think since Mike switch from most of the daily content to video, his income has skyrocket to like $40,000 a month.

If Mike wrote daily text content and people copy and paste on to their blog, it would actually help the little guy. But when you copy and publish a video, people will join the guru. HAHAHA

The more videos that are used as content, the more signups White Mike gets. Now is White Mike doing anything illegal? NOPE!!!!!!

You won't catch a true leader in PT use White Mike's video, why? It's branding someone else.


Both Mack and White Mike are awesome guys. I got a chance to meet them and share ideas a few weeks back in Miami. Even though we are not on the same team, they are just nice to hangout with from time to time.

Actually will see them in the next 24-48 hours or so.

I leave you with my tip for all the ones wanting to make money: Think outside the box and brand yourself.


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#16 Consumer Comment

Quit hating

AUTHOR: Will - ()

I came across these goonies on this board tonight and you guys are a joke.

Quit hating on Mack. You just jealous. He is a brilliant marketer.

If you can't make money like he does, look in the mirror. That is your problem.

But to come on this board and whine and complain, you might as well go in a hole and bury yourself.

Only 5% of the people in this industry makes it. Just like in anything else. If you are in the 95% crowd, it's because you are lazy. Get your lazy a*s off the sofa and work.

Look at Mack, he works for his money. I actually saw on one of his videos, he made over $8 million dollars in his Chase account.

No joke, the man knows how to make money.

And for you Michael, complaining and then starting some stupid survey. (((REDACTED))) You can say you want to punch him, but s***, that is just talk.

I hope you attend the Denver event and start some s**t with Mack.

I think he would Knock your a*s out.

Chuck would do some MMA arm bar lock and make you say uncle. (Had to include Chuck.)

Anybody else reading this board, Mack is a good man. Stay away from whiners and complainers.

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#17 Consumer Comment

Mack are you there?

AUTHOR: Melanie - ()

Mack if you can do a video for me I would appreciate it.

I was on a list from someone in your downline (I think)

But suddenly all your videos now points to some Adam guy.

I do see your picture in the email though.

I tried to call your 702 number but disconnected.

Are you still promoting your system?

I'm not trying to be rude, but now that you have admitted that you own the autoresponders and all the leads, I don't see why someone would join under you. I think there is something I must be overlooking, but I do not understand why someone would join under you knowing that you can use their leads for yourself. If I put in my neighbor as a lead and you can take him/her from me and put them under you, wouldn't I lose money?

Or is this just the way it is? My only conclusing is most people use your system to try to get the fast sign up first before they might get switch under you.

If I am not explaining it right, I apologize. I'm just trying to piece things together to see how I can play a part and make some much neede money.



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#18 Consumer Comment

Any more testimonials?

AUTHOR: Greg - ()

Okay, I still don't get it.

I spent the last 30 minutes reading all the threads.

Over 200,000 people joined Mack's system but there is only 2 testimonials. One is his upline.

So is anyone making money with Mack Zidan's system?

Please reply either way. I want to make money, not lose money so I am trying to do my due dilgence.


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#19 Consumer Comment

Mack Is A Genius!

AUTHOR: Louis Martel - ()

Hey Louis Martel here,

Mack is my sponsor in many biz opp and yes i make money with his system.

you can look at my FB page i always post my proof there,

I made more than $10k last month using his system.

Mack is simply a genius in the Biz Opp and i would like
to have just 10% of his skill.

Since day 1, Mack practically answer all my question at least the
one that deserve to be answer lol.

In conclusion, if Mack send me a email with a new system and biz opp
i will follow him anytime because i know what he do his gold in conversion




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#20 REBUTTAL Owner of company

*UPDATE* MACK'S Rebuttal: All of these complaints are Defamous and Libelous LIES (PROOF on Live Video)

AUTHOR: Mack - ()

This is Mack.

Anyone looking for the TRUTH can watch my rebuttal video reply to the defamous remarks made about me here at:

Why am I replying by video instead of writing here?

To prove it is actually ME (and not someone else) responding to this complaint, because as the handful of liars here have already proven in their posts, anyone can register a quick anonymous account, hide behind a keyboard and become a storyteller.

So watch my reply here (if the TRUTH is something you're looking for)...

And for those too lazy to watch it, here's the cliff notes version if you refuse to watch it...

I cannot "steal" what I ALREADY legally own!

... You are building MY list in MY autoresponder that is built into MY customer management and tracking software that I own (not you) and pay for monthly from a 3rd party provider.

All of my systems, except my most recent one that I did a joint venture on with partners, NEVER had the capability (with the software I used previously) of allowing a user to integrate their OWN autoresponder to MY affiliate platform. 

So how could I even "steal leads" from anyone to begin with when the complaints from people are regarding systems that never had the functionality to connect with a users auto-responder?

The systems ONLY worked off one in-house auto-responder account (mine) - so unless I am being accused of "stealing from myself", users of my systems own NOTHING in terms of the database that they willingly BUILT inside my systems (although I have always been generous enough to export and send them a CSV file of the email addresses of the leads they referred).

And every system user knows that when they come through ANY of my systems and see the sales process, but for those who don't pay attention...

...I also state in my legal terms of use agreement and privacy policy links on my websites (which USERS are REQUIRED to adhere to my terms if they wish to use my website) that I own the database.

Don't like my terms?

Don't use my systems.

It's that simple.

They are OPTIONAL 3rd party marketing systems that I create and use myself to promote network marketing companies.

At not time after joining ANY of the programs that I am affiliated with were you required to USE MY SYSTEM(S).

But you chose to use my system. You ACCEPTED my legal "terms of use" agreement, only to come here and complain about the terms that YOU AGREED TO.
So I'm sorry to say, no one here is "EXPOSING" anyone about anything other than their inability to adhere to my Terms of Service that they were clearly made aware of before registering (and using) my system.

Again, watch my video reply here at:

I also address the other false statements from others (Richard, Comeback365, BRD, etc.) on the video.
Oh yea, to the poster after I recorded this video; username "Former Member"...

PLEASE GO READ THE TERMS OF SERVICE link on the bottom of the website you just posted and tell me it isn't as clear as day (if I haven't already made it clear enough in this post and on my video) that you are complaining about something that you AGREED TO (in my legal terms of agreement) when registering for my system (a system that I charged no monthly fee for no less).
You knew you were building MY LIST (not yours) in MY Autoresponder (not yours, which should be obvious as you never had the ability to add a 3rd party autoresponder to IMM)... how exactly can I "steal" what has NEVER belonged to you, yet legally belongs to ME in MY autoresponder that I PAY FOR and that I am the OWNER of that only I could access MY account with MY admin username and MY admin password to view MY leads?

I can name a dozen other 3rd party marketing systems and/or ClickBank type of affiliate programs off the top of my head where the affiliate is sending traffic to the system creators in-house autoresponder that the OWNER has attached to the system.
If the prospect buys whatever it is they are selling on that particular site, the referrer gets the credit, BUT if they (the owner of the website) monetize THEIR list with other offers later on, the affiliate (9 times out of 10) is not being compensated since it has nothing to do with the original offer that they referred the prospect on. Again, it all depends on what was disclosed in the terms of use and/or purchase agreement, but that is the norm and usually the incentive for people like me to even CREATE marketing systems (especially they free ones) to begin with.
Here's some advice; you wouldn't sign a contract without reading it, next time don't get involved with anything off of ANY website without reading the terms of use agreement (and all of the other links at the bottom). They are their for a reason. To be read.
With that said, this will be the ONLY REPLY you will hear from me regarding these repetitive false accusations, but before I go...
Let me end off by repeating some legal jargon that was passed on to me, and while I rather not go this route (as it will be costly), I am willing to pay the price to teach a few people who posted here a lesson that it is NOT OK to slander someone and think they can do so "anonymously" without legal recourse. You WILL be held accountable for your actions.
RipOffReport tracks your IP address.
You are not anonymous.
I can have my attorney subpoena RipOffReport for the IP ADDRESSES of everyone who came here with reckless disregard for the truth, prove each of you came here with malicious intent to hurt my business (and you haven't by the way - sorry to burst your bubble - your SEO tactics did not work) and let you experience the consequences of DEFAMATION of character, libel and a privacy issue that was in fact broken.
If there were any REAL complaints here - I would have been contacted by the consumer and/or they would have charged back. End of story.
But these are all FALSE complaints - most from ANONYMOUS names - because they do not exist and if they do - they cannot disclose their real info in fear of legal recourse because they cannot substantiate and prove anything they are saying is factual.
So, in closing, those who are TRULY my customers, present or former, know how to contact me. Do so if you have an issue.
Those who are disgruntled prospects, competitors, etc., (even poster "MICHAEL" who brilliantly threatened me bodily harm in writing in his post) I'll ask nicely this one time, please stop with this non-sense.  
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#21 Consumer Comment

Mack is the biggest fraud in GVO and Empower.

AUTHOR: Former Member - ()

Well I too like others bought into the hype of Mack.   Now realizing from this board, he is the only one successful and no one in his downline is making any serious money. At least I can see no one is defending him.

 After reading this message board, I can too without a doubt say Mack will ripped you off. I joined his downline in Empower (his personal recruit). I mailed out postcards just like he said to his system at

 To test the postcard, and see what  messages and autoresponders are sent, I placed my wife’s email address in to subscribe. I’d be dam, 2 months later, he pitches my wife GVO, Pureleverage, and Empower. My wife’s email address is very private and not on any biz opp list. Mack stole my own lead to compete with me.

 Michael, when you have a survey up, let me know. I have solid proof emails I can give you to display Mack’s initial email and then the email to get my wife.

 I have since then quit Empower and plan on joining 4 ½ months from now. I do not feel comfortable allowing my upline to rip off my efforts. If you are under Mack, quit and join someone else because he will take our leads.



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#22 Consumer Comment

Mack is a thief and will finally be exposed!!

AUTHOR: Michael - ()



For the last year I thought Mack hated me and took my leads because I questioned him on the phone. Thanks BRD for posting. Now I realize he was stealing other people’s leads also beside mine. He took my leads in both MCA and Lightyear.  What a jerk!!! I just now pieced it all together.  He is a big success now in his new 3 deal company because he stole leads from his downline. This is unbelieveable. He must be stopped.  All this time I thought I was doing things wrong and Mack was good at recruiting.


I’m wondering now how many people are actually victims that Mack stole leads and signups from? This is sick. I am so glad I did not join him again in Empower and GVO. I wonder if leaders like Russell Brunson, Bill McIntosh, Ewen Chia, Mark Call, Tony Rush, Nicole Cooper, Tracy Walker, Vick Strizheus, Aaron Rashkin know this. All these leaders lost in competition because Mack cheated. I’m not jealous but I’m just so high right now knowing I was not the only one. This is all new to me. MACK you will be exposed if this is the last thing I do on this planet.


I hope Joel Therien and the 2 Dave’s terminate Mack. I’m going to do a public survey and find out how many people Mack actually cheated from.  I always knew his motive for multiple income was to take money out of people faster. AWWW!!!!!!  I HATE HIM!!!! SCUM!!!! I CAN JUST PUNCH HIM RIGHT NOW.



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#23 Consumer Comment

Mack Zidan is UNETHICAL and steal from his members


I have debated about posting here because I was going to let the past be the past. Most people here is searching on Mack and Empower, GVO, or Pure Leverage. I did not join any of those. But I did sign up with Mack in MCA (Motor Club of America) in his 40 80 Method.

MCA is a good company. I did some promotions with PPC and postcards using a system Mack created called the 40/80 Method. To condense my story, I did not have much success. Now this could be partly to my limited skills so I do not blame Mack. But where I consider him unethical is he took the leads that I spent my own money generating and started pitching Empower and GVO. I know for a fact and have solid proof because my father in law optin on my list through Mack’s funnel. Once this happened, I started putting in fake leads to my different email addresses to find Mack taking them. For this, I consider Mack very unethical. All this stealing my leads was going on when I was still marketing MCA. The pure fact that he stole my leads and market a different business to them is unethical and dirty.

Recently I went to an industry event and wound up talking to at least 6 people who had this happened to also. I thought it was just me and then we all realize the reason why Mack is so big now is he was stealing leads from his members to promote GVO and Empower.
I have been in marketing for 6 years now and have never seen such underhand from one man, and then uses those leads to generate more income to brag. If you work with Mack, make sure you use your own funnel and not let him take your leads because he will.

Few comments to below to the people on this board:

@Bill G – I do agree with 90% of what you say about whiners but you have to understand people follow Mack in hopes he shows them the right path. I did. And I don’t blame him for myself not making money, but what kind of sponsor steals your leads? I have the right to b***h and moan for that man to take my own leads to use for his own benefit. I work dam hard for my money to promote my business which helps me and him and then for him to steal my leads? Oh no. Don’t get me worked up.

@Bill – Robert is a nice guy. I was also at the No Excuse Event in Vegas and he speaks words of Wisdom. Deagan Smith is a monster at leads. I will always love his man boob story….hahaha

@Lenny – Your site you recommended, the guy running it Ben Davis in my opinion is a scam himself. Leave Robert out of it. Also FTC does nothing unless more people complain. Too expensive to go to court.

@Richard – You can probably contact the company and ask for a refund. Mack did not target you specially, everyone is on his list. The reason why you can’t contact him is he took his Facebook site down as far as I can tell. Don’t be ashamed, scams come and go. Just grow some skin.

@CCMktg – To be the only one defending Mack, that just goes to show Mack has really not helped that many people. He probably took my leads to pad his pocket and yours. You didn’t do it directly but to defend him is wrong. Do you notice you are the ONLY ONE that can give him a testimonial out of over 200,000 people in his system? The problem is you are his upline. FAIL

@Comeback365 – I will indeed comeback 365 days from today. Your post is about logic. I am surprised no one except for Chuck Marshall came to defend Mack. You would think at least a couple hundred would, but the more I look into it, I think the only ones making money is Mack at the expense of the people that join him.

@Clinton – My question for you is are you making over $5,000 a month and are you in Mack’s downline? If you are, you are the first person I know besides his upline Chuck Marshall. Please name 5 people you know that makes $5,000 or more that are in Mack’s downline. You can say lies,lies,lies when you look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself are you making $5,000 a month? Are you defending someone who steals leads? Don’t drink Mack’s Koolaid. Imagine you are from the outside looking in. You see a nice guy making tons of money. You zoom out a little bit and you see no one around him is making money except for him. Ask yourself why? I had to do it myself and then realize I was drinking his koolaid.

@workwithjoey – If you are 100% with confidence that Mack is not a scam artist, please show us a link of a search on Google of people that actually in his downline making money? I have been searching for the last 20 minutes and truly cannot find one single person besides Chuck Marshall that has made money with Mack.

@MACK – I used to like you, but now the more I think about it, you have hurt a lot of people. Taking people’s honest money is bad. You did me wrong when you stole my leads to market your next deal. Knowingly nobody is making any real money. You are most likely laughing as you read this, but if you are really true, show us at least 10 people you have helped make $5,000 a month besides Chuck Marshall your upline. Out of 200,000 people using your system you can at least find 10 people right? SILENT

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#24 General Comment

You guys are idiots!

AUTHOR: Bill G - ()

First of all, I would like to say that I am not affiliated with Mack at all. I never met the guy and have just seen his presence on the Net. 

Most of the idiots that come here usually are the type of whiners who like to go out and sponsor shop for someone who they think will take them to the promised land. 

Grow up and stop writing scam reports if you can't find success. If you didn't make any money with a system, then you probably just joined some big name and thought (or hoped) that you would just get rich for joining a big marketer.

Look, it's 2013 and you idiots really need to grow up.

The only one's that can 'ensure' your success is 'YOU'.

Do you understand my english??

And to top it all off, you guys are probably going to go out and try something else and then probably fail at that. Good luck because you sure as hell are going to need it.

I don't even know this guy Mack. Seriously. But you guys really need help.

If you opt in to some system, you are asking for emails. That is how a system works. Get it?

Now if you decide to try something new and it doesn't work (for you), then the real problem lies with you, don't you think?

Idiots that come to this site, are just taking suck attacks.

Grow up!

In this industry, you have got to really have tough skin (because some morons will take suck attacks when they don't play full out with a business and feel jealous because they joined a 'guru' and they still failed).

Get a life!

And you so called senior citizens, use your common sense. You have been around longer than the young lads here, don't play dumb if you failed. Age obviously doesn't matter.

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#25 Consumer Comment

Robert Mercado is not a scammer.

AUTHOR: Bill - ()

I actually met Robert Mercado in Vegas about a week ago at a No Excuse event. Real nice dude. I don’t think you should include him in Mack Zidan’s league. Mack is a beast when it comes to taking people’s money.

I did a little investigating a couple days ago and did watch Robert’s testimonial for Mack. Where I think it is a little bit misleading is Robert states he makes $250,000 a year and then later he says he uses Mack’s system to make some money. What really in my opinion happened is Robert probably made $249,000 on his own and then joined Mack’s system and made a $1,000.  A new person would watch the testimonial and think Mack helped Robert make all of $250,000.  

This is a little misleading to the public, but I would not say Robert is a scammer. I honestly feel he has a good heart. Him and his wife. I forgot her name.

Don’t categorize him with Mack Zidan.

Mack also has a testimonial with Daegan Smith on Youtube who is a legend in MLM. Bought his traffic info in the past and it’s actually good stuff. Mack has shown he has paid Maximum Leverage (Deagan’s company) $10,000’s of dollars for advertisements in his videos. I won’t knock Deagan, but honestly, if someone spends that kind of money, you would expect Deagan to give a glowing testimonial.



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#26 Consumer Suggestion

Don't believe the testimonials

AUTHOR: Lenny - ()

Google is your best friend. My friends been telling me about this man Mack and to follow him. He makes a gazillions of dollars. I Googled him and found this site. I found out he is in co-hoots with Robert Mercado who gave him a testimonial. But then I find out Robert is a scam artist himself.

I Googled Robert Mercado scam and found this:

Stay away from these guys. Birds of the same feather flock together.


The BBB will not help you. You need to contact FTC or Attorney General in your own state. I was lucky to never joined any of his scams so I can not report. Best of luck to you in getting your money back.


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#27 Consumer Comment

He took my money and disappear

AUTHOR: Richard - ()

Not a good sponsor. I join Mack Zidan because he sold me the dream and took my money then disappears. I’m 72 years old and work as a farmer for most of my life so I understand the value of hard work and money. About a month ago, I started getting emails from Mack Zidan. Very flashy young guy with nice vacations and cars. Things I only dreamed about having in what is left of my lifeline. Every few days I get email from Mack saying how easy it is to make money following his system. He even went out of his way to send me videos about his day and how much money he is making for working few hours a day just checking email. Since he follow ups with me and ask me to help him win a red sports car, I decided to join and gave my money to help Mack. After I join a few weeks ago, he took off with my money. He lists no phone number so I can’t call him. When I signed up, he showed me a beautiful system he said I could use to build my business just like him. Now he got in my email and change it so I can’t see any of his videos anymore. I tried to friend him on facebook but he hides all his timeline and pictures from me. I am a senior citizen just trying to supplement my monthly social security check. I gave him my last dollar for the month because I thought he was nice guy. I have never been scammed in my life. I am in shame to tell my family I am a victim of internet fraud. I always thought I am smart and fast like a whip. But after the dream was sold, he took my money, doesn’t want me to contact him. If I find his phone number or address I will file a report with the BBB to prevent other senior citizens from being victims. I believe he prys on senior citizens like me to give him money and disappear.

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#28 General Comment

Can't fix stupid...

AUTHOR: CCMktg - ()


So I guess anybody with an internet connection can come on this site and file a "report" without any real proof of anything, only their personal opinion's and/or speculations.  I never go on these sites because all they are is a sespool for whiners and morons.  But when I saw this, I had to come here and set the record straight for a few of you who obviously don't have a clue.

To me, the very first indicator that this report was BS, is that it looks like it was written by an 8 year old.  I'm sorry, but I'm not going to take anything anybody has to say seriously, if they can't even spell, form complete sentences correctly, or even use words correctly.  I mean honestly, why would anybody listen to anything a person like that has to say, given the obvious intelligence level (or lack there of). 

I find that the term "scam" is often thrown around by ignorant people who may have tried some type of home based business in the past, who didn't do anything (or did very little), so they didn't make any money, and now everything and everyone is a scam. 

I've been working with Mack since late 2005.  He was the FIRST person to actually show me how to be successful in this industry, AFTER I failed for over 4 years.  They key word here is he "showed" me, not did it for me.  I've learned all I know about offline marketing, video marketing, using and building sales funnels from him.  Working with him these past 8 years has dramatically changed my life.  I have no idea where I'd be now, or what I'd be doing if I never responded to one of his ads (just like you did), all those years ago. 

What people don't realize is that it's not your sponsors responsibility (or anybody else's for that matter) to make sure you're successful, it's yours.  This is obviously something this poster doesn't understand.  But then again, I know it's easier to point the finger at someone else instead of taking responsibility for your own failures. 

Systems and/or businesses don't fail, people do.  Deal with it.  It's your own fault, not Mack's, not the companies, or the system, etc, it's yours. 

@ Comeback365, I appreciate the compliments you gave me, but I'll need to straighten out a few things you said as well. 

As I said above, I have actually signed up under Mack and worked with him (him as my sponsor) in everything I've ever done since 2005.  I had already been making a multiple six figure income (using the methods he taught me), prior to him signing up with me in the business you're referring to.  So the testimonials I've given him over the years are from what he taught me about marketing, and the results I've had learning from him and using his strategies, in other opportunities.  Yes, having him on my team recently, has definitely helped me make even more, but I was already in the top 5 all time income earners before he joined me, so the fact that I am his sponsor in 1 company we both work together, really has no valid ponit in this situation.

In regards to your comments about BAMM distancing themselves from Mack, that's completely false too.  It was Mack's decision to remove himself as the face of that system, due to the idiots like this guy complaining, which is the first time this has ever happened in over 10+ years.  I find this actually pretty pathetic that people would complain about a completely FREE system.  It costs nothing to use it, but yet again, if someone doesn't make money using it, they think it's a scam.  it's just another example of people not wanting to take responsibility for their own failures. 

And don't worry about me and how I choose to spend my money.  What I spend is a fraction of what I make.  If you make more money than me, feel free to give me advice on how to manage it.  If not, then don't. 

In closing, Mack is one of the last true innovative marketers in this industry, and many people try to copy his style.  He's been in the industry a long time.  He's inspired and helped many people be successful and I'm just one of those many.  But no matter what you do, or how hard you try, you're not going to please everybody, but that doesn't mean that something is a scam.

What people don't understand is that he could NOT be as successful as he is, if he didn't teach people how to duplicate what he does.  Because he DOES teach people his methods, it allows him to leverage their efforts, which makes them money, and makes himself more money too.  Makes sense right?  BUT it's not his job to make a person successful.  He provides d**n good tools and sales funnels, and everything a person needs but as the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water...

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#29 General Comment

Is Mack Zidan Really a scam?

AUTHOR: Comeback365 - ()

Is Mack a scam?

Everybody has their own opinions.

Time will tell, as the truth always and eventually comes out.

You can probably skip reading this and come back 12 months and you will see.

Before you read any further, the below is my opinion which I have the right to.

I started my MLM career about 5-6 years ago and have seen Mack in the opportunity magazines.

I’ve known Mack for about 4 years.

Never had any direct business dealings, just in the same company as of last year.

I used to think he has “hero” recruiting abilities.

 His numbers don’t lie.

But what is more important is, can his downline duplicate what he does?

Or does he have some advantage that no one else has?

This brings up another point, Mack has publicly mentioned over 2,000 personal enrollees, etc.

I think he has a list of several hundred thousand.

Did you know most of the people that give him testimonials are not in his organization.

And the testimonials are more like how cool and smart he is rather than direct results.

But try finding an income testimonial.

I look up high and low but can not find anyone making at least $5,000 a month using his system.

I know some people will come here and defend Mack.

 You would probably say well it all depends on the individual.

And that I say is true.

But everyone is lead to think if you follow Mack’s system you will be successful like he is.

Think about it, are 50% of Mack’s people successful?  25%?  10%?

 If it was 10% that would be 200 people.

Let’s make it easier, and ask Mack if he has 1%.

 Can anyone honestly say they used Mack’s system and make $10,000 a month?

Actually let’s make it easier, can at least 1% (20 people) that is using Mack’s system show that they make $5,000 a month?

I am just asking for 20 people out of his 2,000.

Honestly, try any of his systems, and tell me if you are making at least $5,000 a month consistently.

And Chuck Marshall, does not count because he is actually Mack’s sponsor.

Most people don’t know that.

One of the funny thing is Mack uses Chuck’s testimonial a lot.

What many new people don’t realize is one of the income business Mack promotes, Chuck is his sponsor.

Meaning, Mack is making Chuck money.

Usually it’s the other way around.

When people want to hear testimonial, they want to hear from people that are actually in Mack’s downline and NOT his upline.

Now for everyone that might say I’m bias or a competitor, or a hater.

So be it. All I say is come back here 365 days from now and see if you agree with what I wrote.

Call me a troll, I don’t give a F$%K

One of the best things B.A.M.M. has done is eliminate Mack’s stuff on their system.

Most people are posting pictures with Mack as their “hero” because he is impressive by numbers, but watch as time goes on, most people will start removing those pictures.

I am actually guilty of it. In person, Mack is really cool. Everyone tends to flock to him.

You can’t help but try to snag a picture with a guy that is known so well to recruit massive numbers.

B.A.M.M. is smart enough to distant themselves now from Mack. Maybe they know something that you don’t ;-)

IMHO, but as time goes on you will see Mack’s name disappear from the leaderboards for weekly and monthly.

People that are true leaders that used to stand side by side and take pictures with him will probably wish they never did.

This is just my 2 cents. So if you read this Mack, you will be a living legend like your tattoo.

Before I leave, let me state, Chuck Marshall is actually a good guy.

I had a brief business dealing with him about 4 or 5 years ago.

Little bit hypey back then.

But over the past year I personally had the chance to see him eye to eye at an event.

He’s matured and is really a nice honest guy.

Great wife also.

Chuck, if you are reading this, I wish you abundance of success.

But really bro, don’t spend your money too fast on wife’s car and vacations.

Russell B, if you are reading this, next Ferrari is yours. At least you might get the last laugh.

Everyone reading  this, be glad you have your freedom.

See you one year from today.

And for the people that read this post and don’t like it, before you post, just remember, in 1 year we will know who is correct.

Don’t look like a public idiot.

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#30 Consumer Comment

Lies, Lies Lies - The Report is False

AUTHOR: Clinton D. - ()

I met Mack back in 2012 in Atlanta, Ga. This dude is a stand up guy who takes no BS from no one. The dude who files this report on Mack is a complete looser! Go Get a Job and stay there! Here is a video with me and Mack. Let set this story straight! i just talked to Mack this past weekend in Chicago, IL (19 - 21 April 2013). This dude who filed this report has never even met him. People be careful who you listen to on the internet!

[Clinton and Mack Atlanta 2012]

I wish people just tell the truth that they don't know what there doing online and stop blaming people for their mistakes. I have no incentive to make any money from Mack at all, just passing the real truth.

Who ever filed this report you're the real scum of the internet!

Mack has helped tons of people make money online. I have met a few dozen of people he as met! Mack gave me some tips that will make more than the dude who wrote this false report! He helped my friend Todd D. make tens of thousands of dollars. He helped Chuck M. make well over $300,000!
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#31 General Comment

mack zidan

AUTHOR: workwithjoeycom - ()

i am not an employee...but an affiliate of one Mack Zidan's programs that he promotes. I can tell you 100% with confidence, Mack is not a scam artist. He is a veteran internet marketer and has been around since the late 90s. He promotes many programs and his results speak for themselves. Many people have used his programs and techniques and have made a lot of money. Do a search on google for testimonials and you will find a ton of them. The problem is that not everyone knows how to market when they dont get the results...they immediately say its a scam.

Do your reasearch and dont believe everyone that yells SCAM.

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#32 Consumer Comment

Mack Zidan is a scam artist!

AUTHOR: Shemp - ()

Aw brother I registered only to comment. And you right! Mack Zidan IS a seasoned scam artist! He's so cunning that its scary! He targets the desperate and naive with promises of big checks! He usually catch is to tell people his program is free. Once in, you come out of pocket on all types of services and never make a buck and all your hardwork goes to him. True, he did become rich in the mlm game. But these ponzi schemes he constructing are ruthless to people. He's works with the empower network. A confirmed ponzi scheme... STAY AWAY!
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