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Complaint Review: Meadowland Yorkies - Sacramento California

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I found this breeder online and made an appointment to see her puppies last September. I drove 2.5 hours and arrived at a shady looking establishment (which I will not refer to by name). This was her place of business (not where the pups were born and raised, thank god). I met her inside, along with 6 four-week-old pups. We had specified that we wanted a male and there were two of them. The pups appeared healthy and everything seemed OK. We put a $250 deposit on one of the males and agreed to come back in six weeks and pay the rest in full and pick up our puppy.

In the beginning of October, I emailed her to see how our pup was doing and she told me that she lost two pups to low blood sugar and the pup that we had a deposit on was also not doing well. The following day, she emailed to let me know that our pup had died. Her policy and her website (at that time) stated that you could get a refund before 30 days of the initial deposit. I asked to have my $250 refunded and she said that money was tight that month and having three sick pups resulted in expensive veterinary bills. Oh, she also said that she was switching residences at the time, and that life was very hectic (yadda, yadda, yadda). She said that I could have my money back after she sold the remaining pups of that litter. OK.

So, I call her again in November, and she says that she hasnt sold all the pups yet and to call her after Christmas because she is sure that they will sell over the holidays. Money is still tight, and she has been in the hospital, and that life was very hectic (yadda, yadda).

I email her in January, and she does not email back. I call to speak to her and her cell phone number is out of service (big surprise). I visit her website and her policy has changed of course. It now states that she doesnt give refunds, period. So predictable.
I did find a new phone listing for her business online, and called a few times, but no one ever answers. Just voicemail, every time.

During all of this, I was able to find and rescue a Yorkie that I just adore. And I am ecstatic that I was able to give a good home to a dog that had a very poor start in life. I am just very saddened that a person like this so called breeder, who calls themselves reputable behaves in this manner. I think I deserve a call, an email, or better yet, my 250 f-ing dollars back.

And by the way, I signed no contract stating that I had to put the deposit towards an alternate puppy in case the initial one did not work out. If I did, she could send me a copy of that contract, right?

milo
menlo park, California
U.S.A.

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#24 Author of original report

a year and a half later . . .

AUTHOR: Milo - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, October 26, 2009

have never received a call, a copy of contract, or a refund. not surprised. i do see that others have had issues with kim hinkle on this website and also on yorkietalk dot com. please refer to both of these sites before deciding to buy a dog from her. you will want to look elsewhere.

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#23 Consumer Comment

meadowlands and elegant paws 2 separate companies

AUTHOR: See Justice - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 04, 2008

Just to say these facts are wrong these 2 are not the same and are totally separate, I saw them both

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#22 Consumer Comment

meadowlands and elegant paws 2 separate companies

AUTHOR: See Justice - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 04, 2008

Just to say these facts are wrong these 2 are not the same and are totally separate, I saw them both

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#21 Consumer Comment

meadowlands and elegant paws 2 separate companies

AUTHOR: See Justice - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 04, 2008

Just to say these facts are wrong these 2 are not the same and are totally separate, I saw them both

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#20 Consumer Comment

meadowlands and elegant paws 2 separate companies

AUTHOR: See Justice - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 04, 2008

Just to say these facts are wrong these 2 are not the same and are totally separate, I saw them both

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#19 REBUTTAL Owner of company

milo denies making report, have proof

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, February 16, 2008

I am the owner of Meadowlandyorkies and I contacted (MILO) which is not his real name, he denied writing any thing negative about my company just kept asking for his $250.00 back, I continued to question him as I have worked very hard and this is my reoutation here at stake. He said he would never do any such thing to me. I also informed him I have all documentation and the puppy he said I sold . Including all vet notes and a letter from my vet, which has read this and said I need to get help, to restore,My name,And the shady eatablishment he mentioned happens to be a Sacramento landmark being 150 years old and was an old farm house, must not find History interesting. I said I will be in contact, as Im being Slandered for no reason,And want to get to the bottom of this. and I will.

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#18 REBUTTAL Owner of company

want proof

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

I as well want proof of what you said you found on the internet. After all youve accused me of I want to see who did indeed say these lies.

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#17 REBUTTAL Owner of company

want proof

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

I as well want proof of what you said you found on the internet. After all youve accused me of I want to see who did indeed say these lies.

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#16 REBUTTAL Owner of company

want proof

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

I as well want proof of what you said you found on the internet. After all youve accused me of I want to see who did indeed say these lies.

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#15 REBUTTAL Owner of company

want proof

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

I as well want proof of what you said you found on the internet. After all youve accused me of I want to see who did indeed say these lies.

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#14 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Slander

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

I apogize for saying you made this up, The person who wrote that , is a very sorry drunk and got 86th out of my friends tavern. She has multiple personalities and we are currently sueing her for slander as well as, my web designer. She gets drunk and lies about many people in the neighborhood. She has been bothering me for months now due to the fact she cant go to the Tavern and, has beeen trying to ruin my buisness by these vicius lies, I am happy I know she has put this on the internet it will help my case. I will get vet bills contact give me your address.

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#13 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Slander

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

I apogize for saying you made this up, The person who wrote that , is a very sorry drunk and got 86th out of my friends tavern. She has multiple personalities and we are currently sueing her for slander as well as, my web designer. She gets drunk and lies about many people in the neighborhood. She has been bothering me for months now due to the fact she cant go to the Tavern and, has beeen trying to ruin my buisness by these vicius lies, I am happy I know she has put this on the internet it will help my case. I will get vet bills contact give me your address.

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#12 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Slander

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

I apogize for saying you made this up, The person who wrote that , is a very sorry drunk and got 86th out of my friends tavern. She has multiple personalities and we are currently sueing her for slander as well as, my web designer. She gets drunk and lies about many people in the neighborhood. She has been bothering me for months now due to the fact she cant go to the Tavern and, has beeen trying to ruin my buisness by these vicius lies, I am happy I know she has put this on the internet it will help my case. I will get vet bills contact give me your address.

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#11 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Slander

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

I apogize for saying you made this up, The person who wrote that , is a very sorry drunk and got 86th out of my friends tavern. She has multiple personalities and we are currently sueing her for slander as well as, my web designer. She gets drunk and lies about many people in the neighborhood. She has been bothering me for months now due to the fact she cant go to the Tavern and, has beeen trying to ruin my buisness by these vicius lies, I am happy I know she has put this on the internet it will help my case. I will get vet bills contact give me your address.

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#10 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Slander

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

All I have to say to you is you are a lier and slandering me and saying totally false information . Right . You are giving out totally false information that has never Happened, Now you are totally Slandering and Lying, What you have said is ALL FALSE,

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#9 Author of original report

I just want a copy of the contract

AUTHOR: Milo - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

As I said before, I would like a copy of the contract. Please mail it to me and any other pertinent documentation. If the contract indeed says that I have the right to the deposit back before 30 days, then I have the right to the money back because I asked for it back before the 30 days were up. That's it, plain and simple. I would also like to see a copy of the dated veterinary receipt. I think after giving you $250, you can make a copy of both and put them in an envelope and slap a 41 cent stamp on it and put it in the mail.

The info in my prior rebuttal was one of the things I have read on the internet about this breeder. I COPIED and PASTED it as an example of SOME of the information I am finding out. I DID NOT WRITE IT MYSELF.

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#8 Author of original report

I just want a copy of the contract

AUTHOR: Milo - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

As I said before, I would like a copy of the contract. Please mail it to me and any other pertinent documentation. If the contract indeed says that I have the right to the deposit back before 30 days, then I have the right to the money back because I asked for it back before the 30 days were up. That's it, plain and simple. I would also like to see a copy of the dated veterinary receipt. I think after giving you $250, you can make a copy of both and put them in an envelope and slap a 41 cent stamp on it and put it in the mail.

The info in my prior rebuttal was one of the things I have read on the internet about this breeder. I COPIED and PASTED it as an example of SOME of the information I am finding out. I DID NOT WRITE IT MYSELF.

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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

your facts are wrong

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

Number 1 how dare you call me a lier and yes I have your contract Showing a deposit of $250.00 However you never read the rest of the contract, at that time. You must not have a very good memory due to the fact, I did suggest you taking the larger male . And how dare you call me a lier. I took off 3 weeks of work to nurse that poor guy, and emailed you. I can provide all vet bills which were in the thousands, And I have been very ill, you care nothing about what I tried to do for you. The dog was taken off the web site due to the fact, I was holding him for you, and still have him .Lost of sales yes you are calling me a lier, Here let me tell you what also happened .My dear friend, went to Windsors Precious Pups something like that, in San Jose, (wish you had gone there) and was asked to put a deposit down on a 4 day old pup, She wanted to show good faith and mailed her $1000.00 for a $2000.00 dog, when pups were 4 weeks her husband had a near faital accident and called this woman and asked for her deposit back due to the fact of what had happened,and couldnt care for a puppy and her husband, no reply, for months she called this woman 4 weeks later the woman called back and said too bad no refund, or send me another $1000.00, Needless to say she lost $1000.00, Now this woman prides her self, on her out standing quality dogs.

And you are making me out to be some non caring back yard breeder.As far as Elegant Paws I never told you I had that company,and due to the fact, a partner of mine owns the company, and used the same web designer we are being linked together, on the internt, and have been trying to break away from looking as if it is one company, Her dogs are in the $4500.00 range and the person who is her partner is beside himself due to this fact of my dogs are AkC and have good pedigrees, but they haveThe best of the best, and mine arentnot worth $4500 to $10,000 and Champion Show dogs. Like theirs are. So not that I need to explain myself to you but before you go trashing another inocent party, who has nothing to do with us , and they have worked hard at their own buisness, They would seek action knowing, their back ground, as you are now, trying to bash, someone you know nothing about.

After all the vet bills for the little guy you picked I would have still been in the hole if he had made it. I could only offer you another puppy and that has always been, in my contract. The 30 day, refund you are refering to, was changed to how it states now due to the fact my web designer mis printed alot as the site was still being completed. and even if that was my policy, you saw the pup at 4 weeks it was way over 30 days , and you never called or contacted me that you no longer wanted the puppy. And you agreed to take the puppy I was going to give you and The puppy That I was going to give you, was worth $700.00 more due to his pedigree , and I said I keep our orignal price, since, I was trying to accomidate you.


You decided to go buy another dog and then called and wanted your money back, then you lied as far as saying I sold the dog. And further more you have no idea, What Ive been through, over all this. Most breeders, dont refund or even give warantee, in which I was doing all shots mircochipping and Akc papers, Now my Character is being judged, on the internet, due to the fact you just didnt stick with our agreement, and went and got another dog. So I have the male puppy, Like I saidhe was taken off the internet, Then I against, my own contract said I try to sell him and send back your deposit, after losing sales cause I was keeping him for you, not to mention everything else. Well I still have your puppy, and am still in the same situation, I was in January and wont be back to work for several months, which is none of your buisness, as you call me a lier. Which angers me cause I really did all I could to give you a sweet puppy, You were the one, who couldnt wait til the nextpuppy was weaned and ready to go. Then contact me several weeks later saying you dont want him. With all this I feel totally violated, by what you are acusing me, of. Id be happy to send you a contract the one where I filled out the deposi form, as I give final contact at pick up.I tried to do all I could,

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#6 Author of original report

PROOF ?

AUTHOR: Milo - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

i have saved all my emails that are dated before the "30 day" return policy and i have my phone bills that are dated as well. if you check them against the receipt, it is before 30 days.

still don't have proof the dog died. a copy of the vet receipt?

oh, may i also have a copy of the contract that i signed? i didn't receive one for some reason.

and how could you have given me a sick pup. he died at 7 weeks of age (along with 2 others that died)! way too young to give a pup away. you know that...i hope.

i recently found this interesting info from someone else's experience:

"When I was researching pups, I checked on this breeder who does in fact own Meadowland Yorkies and My Elegant Paws. She has been sued and changed several different business names. She shows her dogs out of a bar, yes a run down bar because I found from Animal Control that she was fined for disgusting living situations and multiple dogs. As if that wasn't enough to make me turn and run to the next breeder....I met a woman involved with AKC after I got my pup and she said that this breeder has altered and lied about all her bloodlines and AKC and CKC are currently investigating her. Please everyone beware that this is not the only type of terrible puppy mill out there. There are many, so really do your research when finding your pup! "

interesting . . . .

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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

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AUTHOR: Kate - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

In response to the person in Alabama I agree to a certain extent, Yes all breeders need to have correct pedigrees, and vet checked I offered all I could, All shots chipping I had the parents and all correct paper work I am not a scam artist, I have heard of several people being scamed for wrong pedigrees etc. As for being connected with Elegant Paws, That is not true we have been trying to correct this mis understanding , via Internet. I have pet quality not show Dogs. I have been a victium of trusting people , who in which stole, a puppy canceled check.

i have raised dogs all my life and want the best for all puppies , I have had people come to my home and walk around as if they own my home and I find it rude and how tackless. I am now very careful , just as there are so many breeders who abuse the dogs just to make a buck there are many people who also try to scam the good breeders. As you know how expensive it is to be a good Breeder, and I have spent thousands on my dogs for their health and well being. I feel This person is trying to make me out to be some heartless, person who wont pay back a deposit, that he choose to not take the puppy I kept for him, and it was after 30 days as mentioned so it was void, by then any way.

If I was such a horrible breeder I would havejust givin him the original puppy who was sick like so many bad breeders do, but I did all I could for the little guy it was very hard on me as I took off 3 weeks of work to try and nurse him hoping hed make it.I feel Im being treated un just here, Not to mention, I became vey sick and other family issues, that he iis attacking me on like I was hiding from him, and Im alier.It is so sad what the bad breeders do, to scare people who do actually Love and care for their animals, Ive been burnt a few times, And there is always 2 sides to every story, And people who just like to hurt others and only think of themselves.

On my own behalf, This has taught me another valauble lesson, as now my reputation is at stake, for just trying to give someone a good healthy dog and thats why I have a contract.

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AUTHOR: Milo - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 07, 2008

OK "Kate" (an alias?). You in fact told me that your other business was called "My Elegant Paws" when I met you (lie #1). And yes, I was aware that the pups were not living at your business. Never said they did (read my original comment please). You did not tell me to choose one dog over the other, cause when I saw the litter, they both appeared healthy (lie #2). Being in the hospital (if you really were...lie #3 ?) really has no relevance in this matter. I did not sign anything that said I had to take another pup and you told me over the phone that I would have my money refunded as soon as the last pup in the litter sold. And I know it has sold because it is no longer for sale on your website (lie #4). And your website DID state that a refund was possible before 30 days of the initial deposit and it has now been changed (lie #5). How does me not taking an alternate dog affect sales? If I buy it or someone else buys it, you still profit right? In fact, if someone else buys the pup (which they have) and you also keep/steal my deposit, you profit even more. Plus, I don't have any proof that the dog I put a deposit on really died. Maybe it was sold to someone else for a higher price? How come you never responded to any of my emails or phone messages? Also, may I get a copy of any contract that I signed that said I would take another pup in it's place? All I have is a receipt of a deposit and your word, which I thought was an honest one.

There are others that are writing "praises" about your business on this website (((ROR redacted)))

check it out . . .

TO THE CONSUMER: I could expose much MORE information that I have recently found out about this breeder's unethical practices, but I would rather not have to put forth the effort. I just want to "truthfully" tell my experience with them and I just want my $250 back.

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#3 Consumer Comment

never buy from breeder who does not show you their home and will not show puppies parents

AUTHOR: Anonom - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 06, 2008

why I read over and over red flags for consumers to not buy but akc breeders. Do not meet someone away from home if breeder is on up and up will let you in there home. Akc does do inspections only to see if paper work is in order ask for vet recommendation and ask vet not breeders refrence could be mom or cousin saying they are past puppy buyers.. call, write akc and ask all they do is register. you tell breeder to meet you at vet where puppy was de-wormed and shots. If they are so scared you will steal their puppies then breeder needs to stop breeding and is not following akc standards. never buy from breeders who pose as home breeder and then hide in house with 100 dogs and will not let anyone see breeders dogs. that is not smart see picture of parents of your puppy ask for 5 generation pedigree and check akc to see if they are suspended. akc.org is a customer who wants puppy best bet when purchasing puppy. always always look for crooks who breed and note on website says if I do not have what you are looking for I will get it. RED FLAG BROKERING PUPPIES. puppies being born every month RED FLAG call your local humane society and they will check house to see if dogs are in accordance with moral breeding practices.

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Wrong facts On Meadowlands

AUTHOR: Kate - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 06, 2008

First off my elegant paws is not connected to Meadowlands Milo, And your facts are a little twisted, You came to a land mark in sacramento that a relitave owns and the puppies were not living there I was not allowing a stranger to come to my home after so many yorkies get stolen.2nd I told you not to tale the smaller pup due to possible low blood sugar, my policy has and ALWAYS was if a pup should pass the next avaliable puppy would be provided after thousands of dollers trying to keep the little guy alive, he passed, he even sleppt with us. so not only was I in and out of the hospital moving, and had thousands out, to accomidate you, and we agreede you were fine with my policy, as it always has been, so there was no changes as youve claimed in your statement, A replacement was to be givin and I did alot and spent alot losing thousands. now for you to go buy a puppy knowing I was holding a puppy for you , That you claimed I sold, not to mention I was trying all i could to be far giving you the option of 2 males to choose from. Id retact you statement on My Elegant Paws as They are not connected. Not to mention Ive been very ill and its been very hard on us.

You wrote total un truths about how I conduct my buisness, You choose to lose your deposit by buying another dog, and I lost sales form you not taking the dog I held for you. How dare you say I breed my Precious babies at a buisness, I made it easy on you to get to meet me and I dont want people knowing where my house is especially STRANGERS. Im sorry You feel the way you do but you choose to lose the deposit by buying another dog. And most ALL breeders dont REFUND,I was holding a lovly puppy for ypu I still have .Its too bad people like you trash others by your own doings,Not to mention You have no concern for what I went through for you, while being very ill,. I am a n Honest person with a heart that did all I could to give you a wonderful puppy. You made the Desision to go elese where.

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#1 Author of original report

Meadowland Yorkies also operates under the name My Elegant Paws

AUTHOR: Milo - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 05, 2008

Meadowland Yorkies also operates under the name My Elegant Paws. Here are the web links:

www.meadowlandyorkies.com/

www.myelegantpaws.com/

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