Pre Paid Legal And The BAD Network Of Milford MI Owner of the BAD Network, Joe Delfgauw, uses deceptive and manipulative tactics. Advertising for admin people, when really needs sales. Total pyramid scheme. Milford Michigan

I too was taken by Delfgauw, Worked for him, never got paid, was told story after story, now I hear he is scamming more folks out of money for some credit repair program. Joe is the king of scams so everyone watch out and stay clear of him

Of course my initials aren't KJ, but that's really not important.

Not accusations at all - it's a matter of public record.  2 lawsuits were filed against you Dec 7, 2009 by the US of A and no cause code was entered.  It's purely speculation on what the charges are for but have a feeling I'm not far off.  Anyone can Google you and find it.  To make it easy though - here's the link:

(((Redacted)))

You're either playing dumb or haven't been served yet because you're hiding out.  Doesn't matter because you will be found and everyone who has been screwed by you will have their day.

Your stink follows you Joe.........it's just a matter of time..........

I know Joe Delfgauw and he owes me money!  He is a scam artist and anyone who goes near him run!!!  He preys on woman and uses their weakness against them.  If someone constantly needs to tell you what a great guy he is then he's trying to convince himself.

He only thinks about one person and that's himself.  He talks you into doing things for him and you want to to help.  I've met a few people that he owes money to and there are probably alot out there!

I wish all of you luck!

Hey KJ / Shirley

What address did you meet with the scammer at I would be very interested to know since he owes me money from a real estate deal and I've been tracking him down for years.

Maybe the solution is that we should NEVER EVER do business with anyone who works from a PO BOX. (Like Joe)  Or anyone who hide under LLC from different states (Like Joe) Or has kids he doesn't support (Like Joe).

What a self made LOOSER

Since you won't put your name and number, it's obvious these things aren't true.  As for 2 separate government lawsuit, those would be..............?

Please post your name and number, i'd love to chat.  Since i don't even know an ex-employee with the initials KJ, i'm sure you won't!

Joe Delfgauw
248-890-5900

Why would you say that without any type of information?  Did she have to become an associate......no, of course not.  But every Admin i hired knew that was part of our system, and it was understood part of their compensation would come from pre-paid, even though they worked for me.

Again, post your name and your number and let's chat.  Or, call me

Joe Delfgauw
248-890-5900

He IS a scam artist.  The US government is currently suing him in 2 separate lawsuits.  Most likely for mortgage or wire fraud.  It's disgusting the number of people he's hurt and destroyed for his own greed

Doesn't really matter if it would have been necessary for her to be an associate in order to accomplish her duties. 

If it was mandatory for her to be an associate in order to be placed in that position, was informed prior to employment and she agreed to it then it's perfectly acceptable.

I know far too many people who will say YES to anything in order to get a job only to suddenly have a selective memory about it once they have the position.

While I certainly think she is perfectly in her right to remove herself from the position once she realized the terms (although agreed to) were not what she was expecting. 

However filing a scam report about it ...especially anonymously is entirely uncalled for.

It sounds like her biggest beef is with getting the cancellation resolved with pre-paid legal.

Of course I'm wondering why she needed to get a refund from PrePaid Legal when (by her own admission) Joe was paying for her first month as an associate...then, if by chance it was her who wound up paying up front instead...it's her own fault for giving away her money without understanding the situation.

Sounds like a confused person simply trying to bend the truth so she can sound like a victim when in fact it more sounds like she misunderstood what she was getting into, paid money without understanding what she was paying for and then decided to play the "scam" card when she finally made sense of what was she was involved in without actually trying to resolve it like a rational human being.

Was she really required to become an associate?

I was informed of this report about 2 weeks ago, and since it looks like an disgruntled employee whining, i just blew it off. But I think people deserve the whole truth. My name is Joe Delfgauw and I own The BAD Network, LLC in Highland, Michigan. i was looking to hire a few Administrative Assistants for distributors within my organization, and yes, MARTA, you came in to interview. We spent 2 hours togethor and i thought you were a good match. You then accepted the position, SIGNED A CONTRACT, and were suppose to start. You knew you were suppose to answer the phone as a telemarketer for the first 2 weeks, I HAVE 2 OTHERS THAT WERE IN THE ROOM WITH YOU TO PROVE THAT, so to say it was a surprise just goes to show you weren't listen, paying attention or maybe this shows why you were out looking for a job. The reason i said "no hard feelings" was that i put some time and effort into the ad, training, interviewing, and starting you......the no hard feelings was on MY end, not yours.

I don't wish to make this a he said, she said arguement.....the truth is, most of the things you said on here are true......but i find it very interesting that you write a report saying i am ripping people off, yet you don't put anything in there that suggests i ripped you off....i didn't take your $$$, i didn't promise you anything that wasn't true, and the girl i hired right after you....Nicole.....is doing the job now and doing it well.......and most importantly, WHY DIDN'T YOU USE YOUR REAL NAME?????????? Shirley? Cmon Marta, if you think I'm ripping people off, call the state, sue me or at least use your real name! lol

If anyone wants to talk about this, do any research or if anyone really cares, call me---Joe Delfgauw (yes, i am a real person) at 248-890-5900 yes, that is a real #)!

Sincerely,

Joe Delfgauw
Owner
The BAD Network, LLC (Building the American Dream!)
and, yes, I am a real person!