R3 Enterprises AKA Cydcor, Granton Marketing, DS Max The Lies of R3 Enterprises Fort Lauderdale Florida

I have nothing against your husband or his multi-level marketing business. My only suggestion is that you go look up the definition of "non sequitur". As someone who holds a degree in rhetoric, I'm offended by the lack of logic in your defenses. You can't just make an invalid point and, in the next sentence, state "there, that proves it." That's called a "false assertation of the positive". I bill out at $75 an hour if you want someone to write something convincing (or something that makes sense), in defense of your husband.

I started my job with a Cydcor/Quill company in Arkansas 3 days ago, and quit today before reading this report. First of all, I thought that it was silly and a waste of time to spend 1.5 hours in the morning playing stupid games and listening to music so loud that you'd think you were attending a rock concert sitting next to the speaker. Then they make you practice the pitch VERBADUM 10K times and pound rebuttals to objections into you until your head hurts (that is not exagerating, I came home all 3 days with a headache).

I went out into the field every day like a good little guinea pig, constantly regurgitating everything that I knew up to that point of training and left the window open for the trainer to reap all of the benefits. If you don't see "X" number of doors a day, you are reprimanded in front of "the team."

I was being told to do things that went against my convictions. For example, the guy that I was training with today and yesterday just happened to have his territory in an area where there was a church that my uncle used to preach at. Even though I have a good relationship with my uncle, I don't talk to him very often. So, this guy was trying to tell me to lie to this church by saying that my uncle's new church has an account with Quill and they love it. I'm not a big church-goer myself, but I am still a God-fearing woman, and I was not about to brainwash innocent people in a structure that represents the House of God.

I was also taught to not take "no" for an answer. Stick to the pitch. Pull out all the stops. I am not an aggressive person, and I am not about to pester someone into buying something that they don't have any use for.

To sum things up, I was being taught to be one of the people that I hate. I am not willing to compromise my morals just so someone else can have a yacht party. Word to the wise, get out before this ends up being another Enron or Amway.

Anonymous
Little Rock, AR

Hey,

I have not worked for the companies that are in question on this posting. But I have worked in sales, multi-level-marketing and in traditional business. I want to say that there is some serious extremism going one here. I understand that many people on this site have been taken advantage of and that should never happen. I am sorry for what you have suffered through bad business.

At the same time, I am surprised that some of the former business students who have posted their negative experiences here do not have a handle on the nature of business. America was founded on barely legitimate sales practices. Who knows what the oldest profession in the world is? If you don't know, look it up. I'm not saying that it's right, I'm just saying that's business. Why do you think many of our forefathers hopped on overcrowded ships to come to an unpopulated land with little to nothing to their names? Surely not because they knew they were going to get handfuls of gold upon arrival. Many came here, simply for a sliver of oppertunity.

I no longer work in direct sales, but I will say that it was one of the most educational experiences I have ever had. I worked with New Vision International and sold nutritional products. Some people wanted them, some people didn't. Either way was fine with me. I learned more in 9 months with New Vision than I have in years of working for real businesses.

My suggestion for those of you who sold cheap merchandise: Find a company that does not sell junk. In my experience, sales organizations that are focused on their product will go to great lengths to support their sales staff. I'm not saying that they will buy you a car or let you waste their money, but they will give you more than a sliver of opportunity.

Maybe the key here is to move on and take what you've learnt with you. Sales is everywhere and if you've succeeded at sales once you can do it again.

This report aired on July 26th 2006.

These companies are finally being held accountable and brought to the public's attention.

Please Read the story and BEWARE!

http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?S=5206149&nav=menu99_2_6

(If the link doesn't work...copy and paste in your web browser)


Happy to Help
America, USA

I, too, had the "pleasure" of working for R3. I began working in 2003. First all, I'm not going to personally attack Rob or Brea here. Although, Brea really should've stayed out of it. I began working for Rob around the holidays. I was promoted to Campaign Manager in 5 days. I was told that I was the fastest to be promoted....who knows? Anyway, I worked as a campaign manager w/R3 until about march when I was told of a GREAT opportunity to move to Orlando and work for Dave there. (Hi Jolene!) Little did I know that Dave became the manager and Tony (who had been an assistant manager longer) was going to be his assistant. HOWEVER, Tony would tell interviews he was a Co-Owner.

ANYWAY, let's talk about the Interviews:

Short, vague, misleading. I asked Rob SPECIFICALLY about benefits and, for some reason, he always seemed to be "working on it".
I realized a little later that you can't give benefits packages when no one stays.
The lunch breakdown, lies. I made over $1,000 a week about 3-4 times. Thanks to my mother's company needing lots of supplies.

Road trips:
Don't GO! My first sent me to Ft. Myers/Naples. 5 of us girls in one room. I had to drive all the way out there and made just enough to cover the gas and food I ate. (I could've stayed home).

Then, I moved to Orlando for Dave and an opportunity to advance.
Dave was a sweetheart who fell victim to the system. Unfortunately, Dave was really too honest to succeed. I could see right through him and called him out on it several times. He tried to succeed in it but was a bad con-artist. He got girls to stay because he was pretty.
I ended up getting an apartment near the office with 2 other people from the office.
No one told us that the market for Quill had been saturated in the orlando area. NO ONE was prospering there. Tony left for another company. Jolene left for better opportunities.
I, too, went on that trip to New Orleans. We stayed in a nice hotel, which we were supposed to pay for ourselves. Unfortunately it took about 4 buses for us to get there. The after party was the best thing. One time for the hand grenades!

I ended up leaving Bishop after 3 months after I moved. I was broke but not angry. I, fortunately, have a STRONG familial support system. I called my mom on Weds night, told her to send my father and my brother on Saturday and I was coming home. I packed my sh*t and left. I was told by Rob that I wouldn't be able to get a good paying job ever and that I would be sorry if I left. WELL, I'm getting my Master's in Music Management and have a wonderful job in Boca that pays exponentially more than R3, and I KNOW I'm getting a paycheck for my work. (side note: I never got my last two paychecks, nor was I ever able to get my tax info for Bishop)....tisk tisk tisk...

The personal relationships in the office are re-f***ing-diculous. I think I'm the only one who wasn't trying to sleep with anyone.

On a positive note (I'm an optimist who tries to see some form of silver lining even if it's a bit tarnished). I learned a lot of valuable selling techniques, developed a tougher skin, got to go to New Orleans, made 1 friend that I still talk to, we did have good times at the Ale House in Orlando, won a top campaign manager award, and, if you spin it right, it looks good on a resume.

Word to the wise, do your research on companies. If it don't feel right, it ain't!

So Sad, So Sad,

Melissa-Palm Beach, Fl.

Hi Jolene,
I rather not use my name, but as a referal for you to know who I am. I worked with R3 & Bishop. Moved from South Fla to Orlando, and some people might have funny stories about my accent. I bet you know by know who I am.

I had no idea what was going on in the office (of course I was in the field 99% of the time). Reading what people who I don't know say, might relate to me, but of course don't mean much to me, but reading it from you... wow! I'm impressed all that s... was going on.

I had to admit than when I quit I fell bad; even though, nobody said anything bad to me after my decision. But of course I thought that my "way down" was nobody else's fault my mine, very good brain wash after all. I, as many others had "the dream" and ended up with a "nightmare".

Something I have to say in favor is that I learned to loose my fear to speak with an accent, eventhough sometimes I got mad at some of my coworkers because of that (hey I'm a sensitive person after all).

Anyways, thank you for words Jolene, opened my eyes even bigger than already were. If you ever see Tony or Dave, tell them I say hi. Just say "que cosa" and they will know who I am... :-)
Congratulations on your wedding, wish you the best now and always!

Que cosa???...

I have to correct something. Yesterday I made a comment that I probly should not have. It was unfair for me to bash Rob and his buisness. I dont really know Rob that well or much about his buisness and the times I have seen him (twice) he has been nice and respectfull. So that being said it was unfair for me to bring him into the issues of me and Brea (my ex wife). I have seen Rob with my kids and he does seem to be very good to/with them and I do have to respect that. Now the comments I have made about Brea, Well thats another story. Mabey she can see the light.

I will tell you first how I found this site. Brea refuses to return my phone calls so I was searching for her E-mail address and this funny a*s stuff is what I found instead.

The truth is that Brea's name at the time was not Bateson it was Epperson. She is my ex-wife. Rob is not the father of the two boys I am. Brea has tried for several years now to eliminate me form their lives saying things such as, "They had a new father now and you need too just go away." or "their time with Rob and his family will always come before you." Brea and I divorced because after our second child she became crazy (bi-polar). Demanding that I spend holidays with her family not mine and making comments that my family wont ever be invited to family functions due to their lower class compared to her family. The oh so great brea, in an atempt to get me out of the kids lives, also moved to live with rob (4 hours away) without even telling me anything. For me to see my children generally takes a phone call to my attorney just to get visitation.

As for Rob, the first time I met him it was by accident. When Brea picks up the kids she drops him off at the 7-11 store just up the street. I found this out when I went to pick up some drinks right after she had picked up the kids. As I was walking in the store I saw my son and did a double take and thought are you kidding me. Rob was giving him a hug but once our eyes met he realized who I was and practically dropped him. I could see the fear in his eyes almost like he'd seen a ghost. I was nice, walked up and shook his hand but needless to say he really looked like a chump to me after that.

Brea would always brag about how he owns his own buisiness and loved to talk about their great buisiness trips but now I see just how it is, just another multi level marketing scam.
I find it rather humorous.

Brea acts like I dont exist, and the only communication that we usually have is when the child support gets lost. I dont exist but I better pay that child support. You see the true Brea is just like Rob, using anything or anyone to get an edge, even her own children, and yes the two have been severely affected by her and the "GAMES" she plays. It breaks my heart to see what she has done to them. I have just started the process of a legal action and its funny her attorney wants nothing to do with her.

Of course there is so much more but I gotts to go.

To my boys I love you lots and Daddy will not stop till he wins.

Carl, did your paper pull the ads or did it continue to accept the money knowing full well the company was falsly advertising???

I work as an advertising account executive for a major South Florida newspaper who USED to do business with these guys. Brea's last name is Bateson - not Reger, and we have gotten MANY MANY phone calls for us to pull their employment ad because it is definitely misleading. Everyone should be aware of this company's very lose ethical standards, and in my book, lack of morals. Eventually someone will shut them down, but until then, check out their bogus ads on Craigslist and Career Builder and LET PEOPLE THERE KNOW!!!!!!!

Alright, I have waited a long time to say anything on this website mainly because I wasn't really sure I needed to say anything but I have a few things to say and I am just going to say them. I haven't worked for a Cydcor office for 2 years. I have not and don't plan on speaking to anyone who worked for Cydcor, R3 Enterprises, PMG, Pro Marketing Group
or whatever other company names Rob Reger's office may go by. I was in the field and in administration for Rob so I got a chance to see it all. I would also like to say that I left on my own terms. In other words, I am not a disgruntled ex-employee. However I did notice the posting of one Brea Reger and now I must speak up. I am going to respond to some of your statements from your posting above as well as telling the truth about how this company operates.

I would like to address Brea. Brea, this is Jolene. I know you probably remember me but if you don't, I know Rob will. For the rest of you reading this, I was Rob Reger, David Broome's, and Tony Sarnow's administrator in the Orlando office. Let me back up, first when he was still in Orlando, Rob promoted Tony Sarnow to Manager and then moved down to Boca Raton. I was in the field at the time and I had something happen to me that affected my field performance. I got a condition called Bells Palsy.

For those of you who may not know what that is, it is caused by a viral infection and paralyzes the nerves and muscles in your face and makes one side droop. One can only imagine what it is like to try to sell office supplies to people who laugh at you because they cannot understand the words coming out of your mouth. As most ex employees know it isn't exactly easy to sell them if you are in good health either. If it seems like I have no point here, brace yourselves because the point is coming. All this happened while Dave Broome was pushing for Assistant Manager.

As I was staying home and contemplating coming back to work, I was told by David, my Campaign Manager, and my team that I was being disloyal because I was not "helping" Dave get promoted. Also Rob was not at all sympathetic to the situation and kept trying to talk me into working. He obviously wanted Dave to get to management so he could get more overrides.

My fellow "team members" would leave berating messages on my voice mail and Rob didn't really believe that I was sick. So, I called up Tony Sarnow, the Manager in Orlando, and he told me to come to the office and pitch him. After hearing me try to pitch, he agreed with me that I could not be successful in the field. Tony called Rob and told him there was no way I could be in the field. Tony at the time needed an admin so he gave me a break and put me into the administration position. However I also had to be the admin for the other office which shared Tony's office space and also be a long distance admin for Rob's office in Boca Raton. I think Rob had me be his admin because he was too cheap to hire someone down there.

Now we are caught up. So, here is where I have to address Brea. I wanted to comment on what you stated above about Rob being such a great role model and entrepreneur. My first day as Rob and Tony's admin was quite horrifying. First, I showed up on time and Rob asked why I wasn't there early with everyone else. As if I needed to be in at 7.

I got on the computer and noticed it went very slow. I called Microsoft and asked for their help. They directed me to open certain files and low and behold they contained PORNOGRAPHY. The hard drive contained hundreds of these files. Some were young girls, some were older girls and some that made me sick. I told Tony to look at the computer and he was baffled by it. I obviously knew Tony quite well and knew this wasn't his work. Looking at the dates and the times the files were downloaded corresponded with the time Rob ran the Orlando office without an admin and when Tony was in the field. Which means only one person could have done it: Rob Reger. Sure he's a great role model. I don't know too many outstanding CEO's who download porn at the office.

It took hours to clean the computer after this. So, the point is. Your husband downloaded these images while working and even if he wasn't doing this at the office it is still wrong and illegal. I remember I came back a little early from a short vacation to pick up something I needed for work the next day, he seemed nervous/aggravated that I was there. Looking back on it he was probably mad at me for almost catching him doing something very unprofessional. If that doesn't concern you about the kind of man you are married to you truly are twisted.

"For anybody reading this report, I will now briefly summarize the above link to the police reports so you can save some time. Basically, what you see is that in his 14 years as an adult, Rob Reger has had 3 interactions with any kind of officer of the law. None of these incidents have occurred since George Bush became President. The first was a speeding ticket for going 10 mph over the limit, while he was in college. The second
was a DUI in 1996, also while he was in College (probably not the first time that a college student drove home after a college football game after drinking too much) That doesn't make it right, just an observation. The third incident mentioned is a hit and run conviction in 2000 in which Rob got into a minor accident that caused zero damage to his car. He waited at the scene for 20 minutes (facts confirmed by multiple eye witnesses) for the other car to return to the scene. The other car left the scene and decided to call the police 45 minutes after the accident (also confirmed by police reports). Because there was no damage to his car and the other person didn't seem to be coming back, Rob chose to go home instead of dealing with the hassle of filling out a police report and having his insurance go up, when he had no damage and didn't see the other license plate. The accident wasn't even his fault. However, under Wisconsin law, any person involved in any type of accident, no matter how small or no matter how long you wait, is required to call the police. Even if the other car takes off. If you do not call, it is categorized as a hit and run. My comment to the person that wrote that last report is that you couldn't be farther from the truth with your characterization of Rob. How could you say such a deceitful thing about a person without having any of the facts? Did you read the police report or court transcripts? Well, I did and what he did, although not 100% right does not make him the hardened criminal that you make him out to be. In the last 4 and a half years, Rob has not done one thing wrong, not even a parking ticket or a warning."


As for Rob not doing anything wrong? Well in the eyes of the law, he did. Upon learning this, I seriously question his morals and his respect for people. Although even before I knew of this I questioned him anyway. My entire time as the administrator he treated me like sh*! He was extremely condescending and manipulative. Calling me and telling me I was not working hard enough even though I was running three offices and booking twenty interviews for 3 offices. I will also say I wasn't paid 3X the pay for all my efforts. There were times where he threatened not to pay me what I was owed because I was inefficient. That is a terrible way to treat someone. The worst part was placing those career ads. I put them in categories that had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with selling office supplies. They were in categories such as: Pharmaceutical, Mortgage, Restaurant, and Real Estate/Property Management. I want to take a second to apologize to Careerbuilder for placing fraudulent advertisements and taking advantage of your website. He said to place them in those categories so we could get more interviews in the door. I would also like to apologize to anyone who answered those ads and I pushed to come in for an interview.

As I stated above I had no intention of posting anything on this site. However I had the misfortune of having to call Mr. Reger about a very disturbing event recently. I got a call from an auto finance company that shall remain nameless. Apparently Rob purchased his 1999 Infinity through them and he listed me as a credit reference. I was stunned because he never asked my permission to do that which scares me because he has a lot of personal information about me and all his employees. What's funny though is the man has a car from 1999. Is that the best he could do? I thought owners made gobs of money. What else is puzzling is why they would be looking for him. They told me that his phone number was not in service and needed his new number. They wouldn't say why they were looking for him but I am sure this company is not calling references to say how on time all his car payments are. In fact, they usually only call references if payments are behind. So I called Rob up to get to the bottom of this. First of all he was overly nice to me almost fake if you ask me. At one point in our conversation, he said how if I was ever cruel to you as my administrator I am sorry. WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! What do you mean if I was ever? There is no if Rob, you were a lot more than cruel to me and many other employees. That apology means nothing to me. What you are basically saying is if you think I was cruel I am sorry even though I wasn't cruel at all.



"This last posting was the one that put me over the edge. The other ones are just simply ridiculous lies. The first one had about 2 lines of truth to it. The other ones were from people who weren't really with the company long enough to know what is up."


I love how fiercely you defend this man who has a felony conviction which prevents him from getting a real job which is why he has to desperately keep his company going. Mistreating your employees and screwing them over really is not good business.



"The bottom line is, whenever I have needed emotional or financial support, Rob is there. Whenever one of our kids wakes up crying in the middle of the night, Rob is just as likely to get up as I am. Whenever one of the kids has a soccer game or an event at school, he is there. No matter what kind of a day that he had or how tired he is at the end of the day, he will always spend at least an hour playing with the kids every night. This occurs before he even gets the chance to change his clothes or eat dinner. The needs of his family always come first. In fact, I have never seen him in a bad mood. Rob has been extremely generous with not only his money, but also his time for various charities and causes. He has donated money or volunteered for Dare, toys for tots, the american cancer society, MS, and the Special Olympics. This is the REAL Rob Reger. The same person that had 80 people fly in for our wedding from various places to spend their hard earned money to see him get married. If the things written on this site were true, do you really think that would have happened?"

WOW!!! 80 people. I am getting married next year and I'm having 200 people attend. Who I can afford to fly to Virginia for my wedding. If all you had were 80 you should've eloped to Vegas, it would been smarter and more cost efficient. It's easier to get divorced. I am really having trouble containing my laughter at your husband's pathetic and desperate attempt at happiness.

What is even more humorous is how Rob has you believing he is some caring person. I guess love truly is blind. When I was in the field Rob told us a story about how Tony, the then Assistant Manager, broke his foot. Rob said how he made Tony go to the doctor and stay off it etc. Well I found out that was a total lie. It turned out he didn't make Tony go to the doctor but rather run a road trip to Atlanta ON A BROKEN FREAKIN FOOT!!!!!!!!!!! He even had the nerve to tell the former administrator Jessica how he 5 stepped him into going and was proud of that and was making jokes about it. When he got back from Atlanta, Tony finally went to the doctor. Rob was mad that he went to the doctor without asking permission. Tony had to wear a walking cast for 8 weeks and collected workman's comp because he couldn't go into the field for the 8 week period. So even though he didn't need crutches Rob got them for him anyway. He got them so Tony would have to go out into the field and not put weight on the foot. I reiterate Tony had a walking cast and his doctor said he didn't need crutches but just had to stay off the injury. Even though he was getting workman's comp, Rob needed to make money from him selling so he made him go out into the field on crutches. If Tony was in the office too long Rob would become irritated with him and banished him out to the field on his injured foot which could have permanently damaged it. That is the cruelest and most cold hearted thing I have ever heard of an employer doing. It is insensitive and inhumane. Brea, I can't believe you would make statements about how caring and what a wonderful role model he is. He only cares about things that benefit him and changes the rules when ever it suits him.



"Finally, I encourage anyone reading these postings to submit a resume and judge for yourself. I am sorry to anyone who has been burned by any affiliate. The fact of the matter is that Rob is not that way. What many people don't realize is that for an owner to become an owner, they have to go through the same program that some people call a scam."


Blah, blah, blah. I've heard that one before. Most of these people here have already submitted a resume and been put through the BS which is why they are here. Rob did get promoted I'll give you that but how many bodies has he gone over to get where he is today. How many people did he recruit, deceive and manipulate to make him money?


"This proves that it is not a scam. Our family has benefitted tremendously by this business ( I know because I deposit his checks and they are very large) financially and contrary to popular belief, he does not lie, use or deceive people to make money. It is impossible for somebody to start with our company without knowing exactly what it is that entry level work consists of."


Ok. Now this is really a ridiculous statement. As an admin I know for a fact that his checks are direct deposit from Cydcor. So what exactly are the checks that you are depositing? The one's he writes to himself after payroll and he inflated to impress you. WOW!!! That's what I want. A husband who lies to impress me. Has auto finance companies contact me because they can't get a hold of him for car payments. Posting misleading career ads is deceptive and all the people you hire make him money. So, yes Brea your company does deceive people to make money case closed.



"To illustrate, on every single ad that we place, we encourage people to read the website. Page 3 of the website states exactly what we do. In the first interview, which Rob has done on me before, Rob tells people specific examples of specific clients in detail. After that, if somebody is still confused, we take them out into the field to experience entry-level work and give them a written copy of our typical compensation package and business model. Anybody who knows anything about his business model knows that the way to achieve the most is by promoting the most managers."

Okay, now when I was an admin Rob never "performed" his pitch for me. Rob's ads, that I refreshed every five seconds so he wouldn't yell at me, were deceitful and I lied to people to get them in the door so I wouldn't get yelled at by Rob. Your ads are so vague it is incredible you get such a turnout. You place them in categories that have nothing to do with the position i.e. mortgage and restaurant. These ads are fraudulent and I hope Careerbuilder catches up with your organization. What do you mean If somebody is still confused we take them out into the field to experience the entry-level work? You take every interview out into the field for an interview not just the confused ones. Personally, I think you are confused about a great many things. Compensation package? You pay on straight commission. There is no base salary or car allowance or expense account. See Brea these things are compensation packages not just straight commission. That is just another example of how your office uses flashy terms, compensation package, to dress up what you do.



In the last year, he has promoted 4 people into management. These are people that I know very well personally. So what he is doing is working.


Okay, how many of those "outside deals" are still in business?

Tony Sarnow? Nope.
Dave Broome? Gone.

So he has promoted 4 people since his office opened right? Now two of the four are gone already. Well if one can get to management in 6-12 months why don't you have more than just four promotions to show for it after all this time? His office has been running for years so you should have dozens of managers by now if it only takes 6-12 months to get promoted and you have new starts every week. In fact when I was in Orlando there were tons of people who were hired every week and quit within a few days or were Campaign Mangers and quit. So out of the hundreds of people who have come through your doors and been hired over the past 3 years only two are current managers. That isn't successful, that sucks.


"I agree that there should be a forum for bad companies, but when people start making up lies and allegations that are completely false it makes this sight almost seem like a parody."


You can dismiss this as me being disgruntled, but I didn't make any of this stuff up, and cases from courts aren't allegations or lies they are facts and if anyone including you has anything to say...BRING IT ON!!!

"He is deeply religious, doesn't drink anymore, doesn't smoke, doesn't do any kind of drugs. He is a positive influence on almost anyone that he comes into contact with and a great role model for our children and his brothers. He lives his life and runs his business with hard work and integrity. I had better stop now because he doesn't know that I am writing this and will probably be upset that I did, but I had to defend him because he is truly a great person and was being portrayed in completely the wrong light."

Deeply religious? When did that happen? Doesn't drink anymore? He used to drink like a fish. As far as his integrity goes. Look up integrity in the dictionary. There is not a picture of your husband. Since the time you wrote this, did he yell at you for doing it. He told me NEVER to respond to these reports. That's it. For everyone reading this, all this is true. If anyone wants to question me go for it. I'll reply and you can email me back and I'll be glad to set the record straight.

Peace out.

Thanks so much to everyone who has posted on here. I had a second interview with one of the "companies" under the cydcor umbrella today. Being subject to a few schemes the last few years, i was already skepticle.

This manager chick was real good tho. She did not even promise all that that u guys described, it was more simplistic, vague rapped up in a nice package. She was really honest (at least on the surface) which made me think twice. But of course, wasting a few days in the past doing similiar type work, i checked online and look what i find. So i thank you, mainly for keeping my o so prescious time intact.

I would of seen thru this the first day of the job, but that first day, how does it suck. Last time I got duped into something like this i got stuck in bk and had to get my boy to pick me up. Man, never again. Shady practices, keep ur eyes wide open yall.

Thanks so much to everyone who has posted on here. I had a second interview with one of the "companies" under the cydcor umbrella today. Being subject to a few schemes the last few years, i was already skepticle.

This manager chick was real good tho. She did not even promise all that that u guys described, it was more simplistic, vague rapped up in a nice package. She was really honest (at least on the surface) which made me think twice. But of course, wasting a few days in the past doing similiar type work, i checked online and look what i find. So i thank you, mainly for keeping my o so prescious time intact.

I would of seen thru this the first day of the job, but that first day, how does it suck. Last time I got duped into something like this i got stuck in bk and had to get my boy to pick me up. Man, never again. Shady practices, keep ur eyes wide open yall.

I have long since been out of DS-Max. Actually, they were called Wholesale Warehousing Industries when I was there but the tactics were the same. To show you how long ago it was, I was with them in 1992. I was 23 when I interviewed.

All posts I've read concerning them are basically true. I showed up for what I thought was a warehouse job. At the time I was making around $5.50 per hour and took home less than $200 per week. You want to talk about scams?

I was also told to wear comfortable shoes for my training day. However instead of getting pissed when we started going door to door I was actually relieved to see that a job existed where I didn't work in an office. My trainer made just over $200 that day in profits selling childrens toys and books. That's what I made in a week.

I took the job, excited, and also easily made over $1,000 per week merchanising. I was always polite, funny and respectful to business owners. Bear in mind I used to get yelled at everyday for $180 a week. Now I'm in a positive environment (although arguably "cult-like") for over $1,000. I did indeed watch 95% of everyone blow out the door as most of them couldn't sell anything. I was rare.

Long story short, I did indeed build a large team. I got promoted and moved to run a deal in Las Vegas. It's hard work with wicked long hours, tons of expenses as an owner and lots of politics. I ended up quitting. In the end what I took home compared with the hours and headaches was not worth it.

However, you do walk away with something:

1) Balls. Which it takes to succeed with anything you plan on doing. 95% of the pissed off people who took the job were indeed "cows" and probably working some low-paying job.

2) Sales experience. If you plan on any type of sale career I'd recommend at least a few weeks with a company like DS Max.

3) Truth. With any company you can name everyone at the bottom is making everyone at the top rich. Getting to the top is where it's at. And it's not for the faint of heart. It is no different in legitimate sales. I worked this field ever since I left. And worked for very legitimate companies. Most (over 85%) of the sales force didn't make anything. And in fact in sales across the country 20% of the reps make 80% of the money. I worked for Century 21 home improvements. Tons of training. Legitimate products. 90% quit within 1 month.

ANYONE WATCH THE APPRENTICE?

Amost every single task involves the apprentices cold-calling. Many tasks involves them hitting the streets of Manhattan to walking up to strangers cold.

I now own a very sucessful insurance agency. Why am I so sucessful? Because I go business to business for a few hours per week and talk to business owners directly. My competitors rely on advertising that simply doesn't work. They spend thousands a week on non-productive ads. I spend my time meeting with people. And I make well over $300,000 a year. Most of it I can credit to DS-Max for giving me the sales basics, showing me that I don't have to be anyone's "b**ch" and can work for myself.

And I can close with this. The amount of people who actually took the job and complained was unreal. You know exactly what you're getting into when the ad you answered was misleading. Simply don't come back for day 2.

I also agree with the basic mentality of this company. Unless you're working for yourself, you're a cow. Cows do indeed get slaughtered.

Poor BJ, where do I start?

here we go...

quote 1: "let me clear the air by saying that the people who made all the accusations on this site are just disgruntled ex-employees that can't sell. No, this career is NOT for everyone. It's basically door-to-door sales."

-I am not a disgruntled ex-employee that can't sell. I am letting people know the truth about these fradulent scum sucking bastards who do nothing less than ruin the lives of the innocent victims they prey upon each and every day. I am in sales now and I do quite well. I also didn't have to sell my soul to Raf or Cydcor to be successful. You say it's basically door-to-door sales??? IT IS NOTHING BUT DOOR-TO-DOOR SALES! Can't you see that? Think about what you do every day...you march your a*s up and down the street hoping that someone feels pity on you and buys an ink cartridge or a case of paper. Come on man, wake up!


quote 2: "It's a psychological fact that the body does what the mind tells it to do, so when people "neg out," they basically give up and make 1000 excuses like I'm working too hard, or I have to pay for gas or I never eat, or whatever they can think of to attribute their failure to. So calling this a scam is simply justifying your inability to be successful in this very difficult line of work."

-Let me make sure I am understanding you correctly. You are saying that working hard, paying for gas, and never eating are excuses for failure? What the hell are you talking about? Calling Apex Marketing and Promotions a scam is more than accurate my friend. I know what it's like to be in the field, you work your a*s off! That hard work is not always rewarded. Do you work hard in atmosphere? I always did. Do you get paid for it? HELL NO! Do you work hard on road trips? I always did. Do you get reimbursed for them? HELL NO! etc. etc. If working hard and following the system are the keys to success in the "business", why then has Stefan only promoted out one deal in the more than 5 years he has been a manager? Has he only had one person work hard enough to make it to mgmt? IT IS A SCAM! All along the thousands of people that come and go have paid his bills though, but is that what you want in life. Enough to pay the bills? Open your eyes!

quote 3: "In many ways this career is better than most: 1. Job security - if you don't break any rules you don't lose your job, you won't get downsized, and your sales don't determine success. If you don't make any sales, we'd be concerned and you'd probably quit anyway b/c this isn't the job for you if you can't make money doing it. But we'd rather you did so you can support yourself and be able to effectively teach newer reps how to do it.
It really works - Yeah the life of a manager isn't that of some other execs, but the success of an office and to properly satisfy the client, you have to do well in sales. So a manager is responsible for recruiting new reps for the office."

-You have zero job security. Every minute of every day your manager is trying to replace you. Every new prospect that comes through that door is the person who will potentially replace you. And you will be easily replaced. Once you leave after you have either had enough, found out...no, BELIEVE the truth about them, can't live off of $100 a week, or the thousands of other reasons why people leave the business.

If you think that your sales don't determine your success you are severly misled. If you can't sell, you will have a hell of a time convincing your day of O to come on board. If you don't sell your mgr. will not give you any good day's of O, you will get the s**t ones. So you will have a harder time building a crew and it will take you much longer to get out of the field. Which is the ONLY goal in the "business"! Build a crew, get out of the field. So how can you say that your sales do not determine your success? Also, your sales are a direct reflection on your bank account.
No sales=no money. No money=lots of problems.

Your next statement couldn't be more true! The life of a manager is not that of some other execs. The life of a manager is s**t. Do you live with Stefan? He lives a life of s**t. He dosn't own a car, he dosn't own a house, he dosn't even own a cell phone. He is Raf's b***h and he is so full of himself he actually believes he has some power because he "owns his own company." He is a joke. He is a failure. He is worthless. You really want to live a good life, quit and get yourself into a real opportunity. The longer you stay, the worse your life will become. Looking back on my time there, I think about all the lies and sugar coated stories that were told about all the success and riches you can attain. I was completely hooked. All I had to do though was open my eyes to see the truth. The life of a manager is so sad. At least they are making enough pennies off everyone else to pay the bills and eat on a regular basis. You're helping with that...juice by you!

quote 4 "This job is truly incredible because you can make it to a managerial role in less than 1 year, making VERY good money to live extremely comfortable and have the freedom to do what you wish with your life, retire early, and enjoy the good things the average person can't. So don't be mislead, whenever people are unsuccessful at anything, they find fault in it instead of themselves."

-How long have you been a leader, BJ? How close are you to getting out of the field. I bet your ONE good leader away. So if you can make VERY good money, why does Stefan live in a filthy merch house. Spare me your response to that one I know what it will be. Why after over 5 years of being a mgr. does he have nothing to show for it? Where's the car, the big tv, etc? His posessions are nothing more than the s**t people didn't want to take with then after they found him out for the scumbag he is and moved away. So a manager lives an extremely comfortable life do they? You think comfortable is spending 12-16 hours a day using the old Cydcor tricks to lure in new candidates and think up new ways to disguise their company name to not be found out? You think that these people have freedom in their lives? Ask some of the people who have been there a while when the last time they saw their family was, when they did something (ANYTHING) for themselves and not the business, the last time they went out and had some fun, went on vacation (not the owners weekend). They have no freedom, they are all slaves to the business.

There is alot of fault to be found with Apex, and the whole PMG organizaion. ALOT. You have one thing wrong though. I do fault myself a bit though. The thing I fault myself for is for ever letting Stefan Mainhart treat me and the friends I made there the way he did. I should have knocked his a*s out when I had the chance.

BJ you are obviously totally wrapped up in the dream here. You will eventually see them for who they really are. Hopefully it will be sooner than later. You should ask Raf, Stefan, and Rob
some questions--real questions not "how was your day?"

Ask Raf why in the past 3 years so many of his outside deals have up and dusted? Ask Stefan how he got promoted. Then ask Raf the same question. Listen closely. Ask Stefan why he had to be retrained by Raf up in Boston. Ask Rob how he became one of Raf's outside deals. Ask Stefan why he overcharges the people he lives with for their rent, then lies about it. Ask Stefan how many of his leaders he has had sexual relations with. Follow up that question with, how can you sleep with one of your leaders while at the same time threaten, mentally abuse, and morally degrade another one of your leaders for possibly having a relationship with another leader? Ask any of the "managers" in PMG how they can promote getting to mgmt within 6 mos to a year. If this is the case, why has Stefan only promoted 1 person since he has been out of the field. s**t, PMG should have like 500 offices by now if those #'s were accurate. You could ask why EMC has never promoted ANYONE. You could ask why Stefan has his company listed as "confidential" on the job sites. You would think that someone who "owns their own company" would be proud of that company, hmmm. You should ask also why is it that there are so many people on this and the DS MAX the Aftermath web-site making all these "outrageous" remarks? Isn't there even the smallest ounce of truth in the things they are saying here? I don't know, you could ask a million questions man. Bottom line, wake up! These guys are scumbags! They will do nothing but ruin you.


Oh! could you ask Stefan something for me, ask him if he still gets off on Aladdin every morning? Or is it Beauty and the Beast these days? Just curious.

Poor BJ, where do I start?

here we go...

quote 1: "let me clear the air by saying that the people who made all the accusations on this site are just disgruntled ex-employees that can't sell. No, this career is NOT for everyone. It's basically door-to-door sales."

-I am not a disgruntled ex-employee that can't sell. I am letting people know the truth about these fradulent scum sucking bastards who do nothing less than ruin the lives of the innocent victims they prey upon each and every day. I am in sales now and I do quite well. I also didn't have to sell my soul to Raf or Cydcor to be successful. You say it's basically door-to-door sales??? IT IS NOTHING BUT DOOR-TO-DOOR SALES! Can't you see that? Think about what you do every day...you march your a*s up and down the street hoping that someone feels pity on you and buys an ink cartridge or a case of paper. Come on man, wake up!


quote 2: "It's a psychological fact that the body does what the mind tells it to do, so when people "neg out," they basically give up and make 1000 excuses like I'm working too hard, or I have to pay for gas or I never eat, or whatever they can think of to attribute their failure to. So calling this a scam is simply justifying your inability to be successful in this very difficult line of work."

-Let me make sure I am understanding you correctly. You are saying that working hard, paying for gas, and never eating are excuses for failure? What the hell are you talking about? Calling Apex Marketing and Promotions a scam is more than accurate my friend. I know what it's like to be in the field, you work your a*s off! That hard work is not always rewarded. Do you work hard in atmosphere? I always did. Do you get paid for it? HELL NO! Do you work hard on road trips? I always did. Do you get reimbursed for them? HELL NO! etc. etc. If working hard and following the system are the keys to success in the "business", why then has Stefan only promoted out one deal in the more than 5 years he has been a manager? Has he only had one person work hard enough to make it to mgmt? IT IS A SCAM! All along the thousands of people that come and go have paid his bills though, but is that what you want in life. Enough to pay the bills? Open your eyes!

quote 3: "In many ways this career is better than most: 1. Job security - if you don't break any rules you don't lose your job, you won't get downsized, and your sales don't determine success. If you don't make any sales, we'd be concerned and you'd probably quit anyway b/c this isn't the job for you if you can't make money doing it. But we'd rather you did so you can support yourself and be able to effectively teach newer reps how to do it.
It really works - Yeah the life of a manager isn't that of some other execs, but the success of an office and to properly satisfy the client, you have to do well in sales. So a manager is responsible for recruiting new reps for the office."

-You have zero job security. Every minute of every day your manager is trying to replace you. Every new prospect that comes through that door is the person who will potentially replace you. And you will be easily replaced. Once you leave after you have either had enough, found out...no, BELIEVE the truth about them, can't live off of $100 a week, or the thousands of other reasons why people leave the business.

If you think that your sales don't determine your success you are severly misled. If you can't sell, you will have a hell of a time convincing your day of O to come on board. If you don't sell your mgr. will not give you any good day's of O, you will get the s**t ones. So you will have a harder time building a crew and it will take you much longer to get out of the field. Which is the ONLY goal in the "business"! Build a crew, get out of the field. So how can you say that your sales do not determine your success? Also, your sales are a direct reflection on your bank account.
No sales=no money. No money=lots of problems.

Your next statement couldn't be more true! The life of a manager is not that of some other execs. The life of a manager is s**t. Do you live with Stefan? He lives a life of s**t. He dosn't own a car, he dosn't own a house, he dosn't even own a cell phone. He is Raf's b***h and he is so full of himself he actually believes he has some power because he "owns his own company." He is a joke. He is a failure. He is worthless. You really want to live a good life, quit and get yourself into a real opportunity. The longer you stay, the worse your life will become. Looking back on my time there, I think about all the lies and sugar coated stories that were told about all the success and riches you can attain. I was completely hooked. All I had to do though was open my eyes to see the truth. The life of a manager is so sad. At least they are making enough pennies off everyone else to pay the bills and eat on a regular basis. You're helping with that...juice by you!

quote 4 "This job is truly incredible because you can make it to a managerial role in less than 1 year, making VERY good money to live extremely comfortable and have the freedom to do what you wish with your life, retire early, and enjoy the good things the average person can't. So don't be mislead, whenever people are unsuccessful at anything, they find fault in it instead of themselves."

-How long have you been a leader, BJ? How close are you to getting out of the field. I bet your ONE good leader away. So if you can make VERY good money, why does Stefan live in a filthy merch house. Spare me your response to that one I know what it will be. Why after over 5 years of being a mgr. does he have nothing to show for it? Where's the car, the big tv, etc? His posessions are nothing more than the s**t people didn't want to take with then after they found him out for the scumbag he is and moved away. So a manager lives an extremely comfortable life do they? You think comfortable is spending 12-16 hours a day using the old Cydcor tricks to lure in new candidates and think up new ways to disguise their company name to not be found out? You think that these people have freedom in their lives? Ask some of the people who have been there a while when the last time they saw their family was, when they did something (ANYTHING) for themselves and not the business, the last time they went out and had some fun, went on vacation (not the owners weekend). They have no freedom, they are all slaves to the business.

There is alot of fault to be found with Apex, and the whole PMG organizaion. ALOT. You have one thing wrong though. I do fault myself a bit though. The thing I fault myself for is for ever letting Stefan Mainhart treat me and the friends I made there the way he did. I should have knocked his a*s out when I had the chance.

BJ you are obviously totally wrapped up in the dream here. You will eventually see them for who they really are. Hopefully it will be sooner than later. You should ask Raf, Stefan, and Rob
some questions--real questions not "how was your day?"

Ask Raf why in the past 3 years so many of his outside deals have up and dusted? Ask Stefan how he got promoted. Then ask Raf the same question. Listen closely. Ask Stefan why he had to be retrained by Raf up in Boston. Ask Rob how he became one of Raf's outside deals. Ask Stefan why he overcharges the people he lives with for their rent, then lies about it. Ask Stefan how many of his leaders he has had sexual relations with. Follow up that question with, how can you sleep with one of your leaders while at the same time threaten, mentally abuse, and morally degrade another one of your leaders for possibly having a relationship with another leader? Ask any of the "managers" in PMG how they can promote getting to mgmt within 6 mos to a year. If this is the case, why has Stefan only promoted 1 person since he has been out of the field. s**t, PMG should have like 500 offices by now if those #'s were accurate. You could ask why EMC has never promoted ANYONE. You could ask why Stefan has his company listed as "confidential" on the job sites. You would think that someone who "owns their own company" would be proud of that company, hmmm. You should ask also why is it that there are so many people on this and the DS MAX the Aftermath web-site making all these "outrageous" remarks? Isn't there even the smallest ounce of truth in the things they are saying here? I don't know, you could ask a million questions man. Bottom line, wake up! These guys are scumbags! They will do nothing but ruin you.


Oh! could you ask Stefan something for me, ask him if he still gets off on Aladdin every morning? Or is it Beauty and the Beast these days? Just curious.

Poor BJ, where do I start?

here we go...

quote 1: "let me clear the air by saying that the people who made all the accusations on this site are just disgruntled ex-employees that can't sell. No, this career is NOT for everyone. It's basically door-to-door sales."

-I am not a disgruntled ex-employee that can't sell. I am letting people know the truth about these fradulent scum sucking bastards who do nothing less than ruin the lives of the innocent victims they prey upon each and every day. I am in sales now and I do quite well. I also didn't have to sell my soul to Raf or Cydcor to be successful. You say it's basically door-to-door sales??? IT IS NOTHING BUT DOOR-TO-DOOR SALES! Can't you see that? Think about what you do every day...you march your a*s up and down the street hoping that someone feels pity on you and buys an ink cartridge or a case of paper. Come on man, wake up!


quote 2: "It's a psychological fact that the body does what the mind tells it to do, so when people "neg out," they basically give up and make 1000 excuses like I'm working too hard, or I have to pay for gas or I never eat, or whatever they can think of to attribute their failure to. So calling this a scam is simply justifying your inability to be successful in this very difficult line of work."

-Let me make sure I am understanding you correctly. You are saying that working hard, paying for gas, and never eating are excuses for failure? What the hell are you talking about? Calling Apex Marketing and Promotions a scam is more than accurate my friend. I know what it's like to be in the field, you work your a*s off! That hard work is not always rewarded. Do you work hard in atmosphere? I always did. Do you get paid for it? HELL NO! Do you work hard on road trips? I always did. Do you get reimbursed for them? HELL NO! etc. etc. If working hard and following the system are the keys to success in the "business", why then has Stefan only promoted out one deal in the more than 5 years he has been a manager? Has he only had one person work hard enough to make it to mgmt? IT IS A SCAM! All along the thousands of people that come and go have paid his bills though, but is that what you want in life. Enough to pay the bills? Open your eyes!

quote 3: "In many ways this career is better than most: 1. Job security - if you don't break any rules you don't lose your job, you won't get downsized, and your sales don't determine success. If you don't make any sales, we'd be concerned and you'd probably quit anyway b/c this isn't the job for you if you can't make money doing it. But we'd rather you did so you can support yourself and be able to effectively teach newer reps how to do it.
It really works - Yeah the life of a manager isn't that of some other execs, but the success of an office and to properly satisfy the client, you have to do well in sales. So a manager is responsible for recruiting new reps for the office."

-You have zero job security. Every minute of every day your manager is trying to replace you. Every new prospect that comes through that door is the person who will potentially replace you. And you will be easily replaced. Once you leave after you have either had enough, found out...no, BELIEVE the truth about them, can't live off of $100 a week, or the thousands of other reasons why people leave the business.

If you think that your sales don't determine your success you are severly misled. If you can't sell, you will have a hell of a time convincing your day of O to come on board. If you don't sell your mgr. will not give you any good day's of O, you will get the s**t ones. So you will have a harder time building a crew and it will take you much longer to get out of the field. Which is the ONLY goal in the "business"! Build a crew, get out of the field. So how can you say that your sales do not determine your success? Also, your sales are a direct reflection on your bank account.
No sales=no money. No money=lots of problems.

Your next statement couldn't be more true! The life of a manager is not that of some other execs. The life of a manager is s**t. Do you live with Stefan? He lives a life of s**t. He dosn't own a car, he dosn't own a house, he dosn't even own a cell phone. He is Raf's b***h and he is so full of himself he actually believes he has some power because he "owns his own company." He is a joke. He is a failure. He is worthless. You really want to live a good life, quit and get yourself into a real opportunity. The longer you stay, the worse your life will become. Looking back on my time there, I think about all the lies and sugar coated stories that were told about all the success and riches you can attain. I was completely hooked. All I had to do though was open my eyes to see the truth. The life of a manager is so sad. At least they are making enough pennies off everyone else to pay the bills and eat on a regular basis. You're helping with that...juice by you!

quote 4 "This job is truly incredible because you can make it to a managerial role in less than 1 year, making VERY good money to live extremely comfortable and have the freedom to do what you wish with your life, retire early, and enjoy the good things the average person can't. So don't be mislead, whenever people are unsuccessful at anything, they find fault in it instead of themselves."

-How long have you been a leader, BJ? How close are you to getting out of the field. I bet your ONE good leader away. So if you can make VERY good money, why does Stefan live in a filthy merch house. Spare me your response to that one I know what it will be. Why after over 5 years of being a mgr. does he have nothing to show for it? Where's the car, the big tv, etc? His posessions are nothing more than the s**t people didn't want to take with then after they found him out for the scumbag he is and moved away. So a manager lives an extremely comfortable life do they? You think comfortable is spending 12-16 hours a day using the old Cydcor tricks to lure in new candidates and think up new ways to disguise their company name to not be found out? You think that these people have freedom in their lives? Ask some of the people who have been there a while when the last time they saw their family was, when they did something (ANYTHING) for themselves and not the business, the last time they went out and had some fun, went on vacation (not the owners weekend). They have no freedom, they are all slaves to the business.

There is alot of fault to be found with Apex, and the whole PMG organizaion. ALOT. You have one thing wrong though. I do fault myself a bit though. The thing I fault myself for is for ever letting Stefan Mainhart treat me and the friends I made there the way he did. I should have knocked his a*s out when I had the chance.

BJ you are obviously totally wrapped up in the dream here. You will eventually see them for who they really are. Hopefully it will be sooner than later. You should ask Raf, Stefan, and Rob
some questions--real questions not "how was your day?"

Ask Raf why in the past 3 years so many of his outside deals have up and dusted? Ask Stefan how he got promoted. Then ask Raf the same question. Listen closely. Ask Stefan why he had to be retrained by Raf up in Boston. Ask Rob how he became one of Raf's outside deals. Ask Stefan why he overcharges the people he lives with for their rent, then lies about it. Ask Stefan how many of his leaders he has had sexual relations with. Follow up that question with, how can you sleep with one of your leaders while at the same time threaten, mentally abuse, and morally degrade another one of your leaders for possibly having a relationship with another leader? Ask any of the "managers" in PMG how they can promote getting to mgmt within 6 mos to a year. If this is the case, why has Stefan only promoted 1 person since he has been out of the field. s**t, PMG should have like 500 offices by now if those #'s were accurate. You could ask why EMC has never promoted ANYONE. You could ask why Stefan has his company listed as "confidential" on the job sites. You would think that someone who "owns their own company" would be proud of that company, hmmm. You should ask also why is it that there are so many people on this and the DS MAX the Aftermath web-site making all these "outrageous" remarks? Isn't there even the smallest ounce of truth in the things they are saying here? I don't know, you could ask a million questions man. Bottom line, wake up! These guys are scumbags! They will do nothing but ruin you.


Oh! could you ask Stefan something for me, ask him if he still gets off on Aladdin every morning? Or is it Beauty and the Beast these days? Just curious.

it's so funny as I write my second input ever about cydcor. I can tell you how to make money once you decide to quit.

SBC campaign is a joke. you can make a crap load of money.
Three weeks before you plan to quit do the following.


1. Rip off as many winback customers as u can. Tell them they can get out after 6 months. SBC will pay their termination charge after being with SBC for 6 months. blah blah blah.

2. Get paid and quit.

only reason why this works is that owners do not want cydcor or sbc to find out that they are running shady business. So what happen is that they pay the customers off so no one finds out. My owner was #1 on SBC campaign for 5mnth. I mean double the the second place good. But he had no money. Guess what? his reps were ripping everyone off(including the girl he was banging) so they will make the sale. Apparently in "pre-management meeting" he was showing people that he was making 100,000 a week, he was paying customers 80,000 week to pay for their termination charge, difference of what the reps quoted etc. Cydcor is a get rich quick scheme, if you know how to do it, u can score. LOL

good luck

I can't believe what you have written here! I can't believe you are on here defending these people! I only wish I had the time to pick apart your post sentence by sentence. I will make a more in-depth response shortly. That's it for now.

I can't believe what you have written here! I can't believe you are on here defending these people! I only wish I had the time to pick apart your post sentence by sentence. I will make a more in-depth response shortly. That's it for now.

I can't believe what you have written here! I can't believe you are on here defending these people! I only wish I had the time to pick apart your post sentence by sentence. I will make a more in-depth response shortly. That's it for now.

Oh boy, where do I start. If you've read all the complaints about R3 Enterprises, Rob Reger, Cydcor, or Apex Marketing and Promotions, let me clear the air by saying that the people who made all the accusations on this site are just disgruntled ex-employees that can't sell. No, this career is NOT for everyone. It's basically door-to-door sales. It's never easy and anyone who's ever done sales can attest to that, so please people who quit, don't attribute YOUR misfortune to Cydcor, R3, or Apex, calling them cults or scams.



In sales, there's 1 way and 1 way only to be successful, set goals and stay positive trying to achieve them. There are people out there that can dedicate themselves to things and actually succeed. It's a psychological fact that the body does what the mind tells it to do, so when people "neg out," they basically give up and make 1000 excuses like I'm working too hard, or I have to pay for gas or I never eat, or whatever they can think of to attribute their failure to. So calling this a scam is simply justifying your inability to be successful in this very difficult line of work. Only people who are ambitious, want to own their own company, and have the ability to sacrifice can reap the ultimate rewards in any career. Sales are generally commission jobs, so when you don't sell, you don't make money. So when someone has a bad week and get a bad check, they have to have the ability to persist.



If you have to pay $1000 a week in bills, yeah you probably will max out your credit card trying to survive in this business, especially when you first start in the company and are trying to learn the art of sales; which is pretty easy. we sell office supplies, stuff businesses spend thousands on every day and if you follow a simple sales funnel, hit enough doors, and add a pinch of personality, I can't imagine anyone who couldn't make money. If you don't do those things, you probably won't make money, will quit, and end up posting a hate article on this site.



In many ways this career is better than most: 1. Job security - if you don't break any rules you don't lose your job, you won't get downsized, and your sales don't determine success. If you don't make any sales, we'd be concerned and you'd probably quit anyway b/c this isn't the job for you if you can't make money doing it. But we'd rather you did so you can support yourself and be able to effectively teach newer reps how to do it.

2. Non seniorty based and 100%promotion from within.

3. It really works - Yeah the life of a manager isn't that of some other execs, but the success of an office and to properly satisfy the client, you have to do well in sales. So a manager is responsible for recruiting new reps for the office. The first interview is only a few minutes for the manager to ask preliminary questions to determine whether it even makes sense to explain the jist of this business of outsourced marketing to the candidate, and how our management trainee program works. The 2nd Interview, or day of observation, people see first hand what it takes to be successful, by accompanying a rep in the field to do daily sales. If the rep thinks you have the motivation and people skills to do this job and eventually want to run an office too, he'll recommend you be hired. If Rob agrees, you're in luck, not them.



Everyone knows exactly what it takes to be successful doing this, if they can't, no knock on them, but sales just isn't their thing, even if management is. Unfortunately for the primadonas, in order to make it to manager, you need to start entry level, do the sales, learn from the ground up, how else could you ever relate when you're left in charge of one of these branches of salesmen representing very large and well known fortune 500 companies. This job is truly incredible because you can make it to a managerial role in less than 1 year, making VERY good money to live extremely comfortable and have the freedom to do what you wish with your life, retire early, and enjoy the good things the average person can't. So don't be mislead, whenever people are unsuccessful at anything, they find fault in it instead of themselves.



If you have any further concerns or aren't satisfied, come for an interview if you can sell, but don't wish to sell for the rest of your life. The opportunity is there for those that actually have what it takes.



Realistic Person

ft.lauderdale, florida

Just remeber this in regards to taking out second interviews and working for this company:

"By accepting the way I was deceived, I set myself up to begin deceiving others." This is a great quote from a book I recently read about cults and cult-like behavior.



Late

It's about time someone comes out and tells it like it is. Brea you have to be the most foolish poster I've ever seen on this site. Obviously Rob has you duped like most of his employees.



First of all you need to learn how to spell. The word decided is spelled decided not decieded as you spelled it. I before E except after C remember? Well maybe you were sleeping that day in the first grade it wouldn't surprise me. Also American has a capital A.



Although the personal attacks are a bit over the top they do make some sense into how your husband thinks. Your husband hit that car from behind and according to the law of any state that means it is 99%+ his fault so don't try to worm him out of it.



You conveniently left this huge fact out of your rebuttal. You told a half truth which is typical of how most managers tell their stories to interivews and employees so Rob taught you well.



He was well over 21 at the time so don't try the he was young and stupid card cause I'm not as dumb as you are. The point of that previous posting is if he'd flee the scene without reporting it and obeying the law for his own personal gain then he is capable of anything like running a scam company.



You mentioned how generous Rob is however I beg to differ. He wasn't generous at all to the two managers he blew out in Orlando now was he? In fact he doesn't even care about them because now they don't make him any money do they? So out of the four people you say he promoted two are gone and I don't know about the other two but they are soon to follow once they see what it is like to be a manager.



You are right in the fact Rob cares about his employees. If my entire income depended on people coming in everyday and selling I guess I'd care about them too! So again his true colors shine through. Once people quit he moves on like a predator who is awaiting his next victim.



As far as the company website is concerned you are right that no one starts without knowing what the entry level work consists of. This is because all new starts have been through three interviews but that is not the issue. You are totally avoiding the fact that the career ads you place completely mislead people into coming in for a first interview.



Avoiding the truth is a typical sales tactic used by most Cydcor managers. If applicants knew from the start they'd be knocking on doors for straight commission I'm sure you would not have such a large response to your advertisements.



Some of your ads are listed in the restaurant category of careerbuilder.com. Now lets see you reply and tell all of us how slinging office supplies door to door has anything to do with a restaurant position?



HMM I didn't think so. Don't try to say you sell office supplies to restaurants and that is the restaurant industry. Or how the compensation package is negotiable depending on experience when all employees are paid the same: straight commission whether they have 0 years experience or 10 years experience.



Besides your ads are all pointed towards entry level grads so why would you list compensation package is negotiable depending on experience? Now I know how you and Rob think on this one. The compensation package is depending on experience but you only pay the straight commission however in your minds you could pay more depending on experience but you won't.



See we could play these mind games all day but I am very smart and know how you people think.

The pages you say are so descriptive on the website state how the company uses direct marketing but most people don't know what that really means till the second interview and then it's too late.



So page three really doesn't give the real story at all. I can't believe you had the balls to try to lie about that.



Also why does Rob have to practice his first interview on you? Does he have to practice because he can't present to people and needs you to help build his confidence or wipe that white s#@t off the sides of his mouth?



Or is it so you know what he typically says to an interview and it prepares you to respond to questions on the phone from potential interviews and make it coherent to the first interview stuff they will hear from Rob when they come in? I think you know the answer to that one.



You encouraged everyone reading these postings to submit a resume and judge for themselves. Well if you actually read anything here you'd realize that everyone already has been in for an interview and, like me, is ticked off at wasting their time with your outfit.



Now Rob might be a good babysitter and diaper changer but that has nothing to do with his business ethics. Although I have to wonder about the communication in your relationship based on what you are doing. If you have to write postings without him knowing and if he'd be upset with you for not discussing this with him how good can your marriage be? Besides only 80 people coming for him to a wedding is pretty small. Most meaningful weddings have over 400 guests.



My advice to all those who are thinking about interviewing at R3 Enterprises/Pro Marketing Group is don't go unless you like making $100.00 per week and working 13 hours a day.



My advice to the current employees is get the hell out as fast as you can. There really are better jobs out there. Rob once said that anyone who leaves the company will not be successful. Well I can tell you he is dead wrong about that and uses that as a scare tactic just to keep you there making him money.



That's all I got for you I'm out.

It's about time someone comes out and tells it like it is. Brea you have to be the most foolish poster I've ever seen on this site. Obviously Rob has you duped like most of his employees.



First of all you need to learn how to spell. The word decided is spelled decided not decieded as you spelled it. I before E except after C remember? Well maybe you were sleeping that day in the first grade it wouldn't surprise me. Also American has a capital A.



Although the personal attacks are a bit over the top they do make some sense into how your husband thinks. Your husband hit that car from behind and according to the law of any state that means it is 99%+ his fault so don't try to worm him out of it.



You conveniently left this huge fact out of your rebuttal. You told a half truth which is typical of how most managers tell their stories to interivews and employees so Rob taught you well.



He was well over 21 at the time so don't try the he was young and stupid card cause I'm not as dumb as you are. The point of that previous posting is if he'd flee the scene without reporting it and obeying the law for his own personal gain then he is capable of anything like running a scam company.



You mentioned how generous Rob is however I beg to differ. He wasn't generous at all to the two managers he blew out in Orlando now was he? In fact he doesn't even care about them because now they don't make him any money do they? So out of the four people you say he promoted two are gone and I don't know about the other two but they are soon to follow once they see what it is like to be a manager.



You are right in the fact Rob cares about his employees. If my entire income depended on people coming in everyday and selling I guess I'd care about them too! So again his true colors shine through. Once people quit he moves on like a predator who is awaiting his next victim.



As far as the company website is concerned you are right that no one starts without knowing what the entry level work consists of. This is because all new starts have been through three interviews but that is not the issue. You are totally avoiding the fact that the career ads you place completely mislead people into coming in for a first interview.



Avoiding the truth is a typical sales tactic used by most Cydcor managers. If applicants knew from the start they'd be knocking on doors for straight commission I'm sure you would not have such a large response to your advertisements.



Some of your ads are listed in the restaurant category of careerbuilder.com. Now lets see you reply and tell all of us how slinging office supplies door to door has anything to do with a restaurant position?



HMM I didn't think so. Don't try to say you sell office supplies to restaurants and that is the restaurant industry. Or how the compensation package is negotiable depending on experience when all employees are paid the same: straight commission whether they have 0 years experience or 10 years experience.



Besides your ads are all pointed towards entry level grads so why would you list compensation package is negotiable depending on experience? Now I know how you and Rob think on this one. The compensation package is depending on experience but you only pay the straight commission however in your minds you could pay more depending on experience but you won't.



See we could play these mind games all day but I am very smart and know how you people think.

The pages you say are so descriptive on the website state how the company uses direct marketing but most people don't know what that really means till the second interview and then it's too late.



So page three really doesn't give the real story at all. I can't believe you had the balls to try to lie about that.



Also why does Rob have to practice his first interview on you? Does he have to practice because he can't present to people and needs you to help build his confidence or wipe that white s#@t off the sides of his mouth?



Or is it so you know what he typically says to an interview and it prepares you to respond to questions on the phone from potential interviews and make it coherent to the first interview stuff they will hear from Rob when they come in? I think you know the answer to that one.



You encouraged everyone reading these postings to submit a resume and judge for themselves. Well if you actually read anything here you'd realize that everyone already has been in for an interview and, like me, is ticked off at wasting their time with your outfit.



Now Rob might be a good babysitter and diaper changer but that has nothing to do with his business ethics. Although I have to wonder about the communication in your relationship based on what you are doing. If you have to write postings without him knowing and if he'd be upset with you for not discussing this with him how good can your marriage be? Besides only 80 people coming for him to a wedding is pretty small. Most meaningful weddings have over 400 guests.



My advice to all those who are thinking about interviewing at R3 Enterprises/Pro Marketing Group is don't go unless you like making $100.00 per week and working 13 hours a day.



My advice to the current employees is get the hell out as fast as you can. There really are better jobs out there. Rob once said that anyone who leaves the company will not be successful. Well I can tell you he is dead wrong about that and uses that as a scare tactic just to keep you there making him money.



That's all I got for you I'm out.

It's about time someone comes out and tells it like it is. Brea you have to be the most foolish poster I've ever seen on this site. Obviously Rob has you duped like most of his employees.



First of all you need to learn how to spell. The word decided is spelled decided not decieded as you spelled it. I before E except after C remember? Well maybe you were sleeping that day in the first grade it wouldn't surprise me. Also American has a capital A.



Although the personal attacks are a bit over the top they do make some sense into how your husband thinks. Your husband hit that car from behind and according to the law of any state that means it is 99%+ his fault so don't try to worm him out of it.



You conveniently left this huge fact out of your rebuttal. You told a half truth which is typical of how most managers tell their stories to interivews and employees so Rob taught you well.



He was well over 21 at the time so don't try the he was young and stupid card cause I'm not as dumb as you are. The point of that previous posting is if he'd flee the scene without reporting it and obeying the law for his own personal gain then he is capable of anything like running a scam company.



You mentioned how generous Rob is however I beg to differ. He wasn't generous at all to the two managers he blew out in Orlando now was he? In fact he doesn't even care about them because now they don't make him any money do they? So out of the four people you say he promoted two are gone and I don't know about the other two but they are soon to follow once they see what it is like to be a manager.



You are right in the fact Rob cares about his employees. If my entire income depended on people coming in everyday and selling I guess I'd care about them too! So again his true colors shine through. Once people quit he moves on like a predator who is awaiting his next victim.



As far as the company website is concerned you are right that no one starts without knowing what the entry level work consists of. This is because all new starts have been through three interviews but that is not the issue. You are totally avoiding the fact that the career ads you place completely mislead people into coming in for a first interview.



Avoiding the truth is a typical sales tactic used by most Cydcor managers. If applicants knew from the start they'd be knocking on doors for straight commission I'm sure you would not have such a large response to your advertisements.



Some of your ads are listed in the restaurant category of careerbuilder.com. Now lets see you reply and tell all of us how slinging office supplies door to door has anything to do with a restaurant position?



HMM I didn't think so. Don't try to say you sell office supplies to restaurants and that is the restaurant industry. Or how the compensation package is negotiable depending on experience when all employees are paid the same: straight commission whether they have 0 years experience or 10 years experience.



Besides your ads are all pointed towards entry level grads so why would you list compensation package is negotiable depending on experience? Now I know how you and Rob think on this one. The compensation package is depending on experience but you only pay the straight commission however in your minds you could pay more depending on experience but you won't.



See we could play these mind games all day but I am very smart and know how you people think.

The pages you say are so descriptive on the website state how the company uses direct marketing but most people don't know what that really means till the second interview and then it's too late.



So page three really doesn't give the real story at all. I can't believe you had the balls to try to lie about that.



Also why does Rob have to practice his first interview on you? Does he have to practice because he can't present to people and needs you to help build his confidence or wipe that white s#@t off the sides of his mouth?



Or is it so you know what he typically says to an interview and it prepares you to respond to questions on the phone from potential interviews and make it coherent to the first interview stuff they will hear from Rob when they come in? I think you know the answer to that one.



You encouraged everyone reading these postings to submit a resume and judge for themselves. Well if you actually read anything here you'd realize that everyone already has been in for an interview and, like me, is ticked off at wasting their time with your outfit.



Now Rob might be a good babysitter and diaper changer but that has nothing to do with his business ethics. Although I have to wonder about the communication in your relationship based on what you are doing. If you have to write postings without him knowing and if he'd be upset with you for not discussing this with him how good can your marriage be? Besides only 80 people coming for him to a wedding is pretty small. Most meaningful weddings have over 400 guests.



My advice to all those who are thinking about interviewing at R3 Enterprises/Pro Marketing Group is don't go unless you like making $100.00 per week and working 13 hours a day.



My advice to the current employees is get the hell out as fast as you can. There really are better jobs out there. Rob once said that anyone who leaves the company will not be successful. Well I can tell you he is dead wrong about that and uses that as a scare tactic just to keep you there making him money.



That's all I got for you I'm out.

It's about time someone comes out and tells it like it is. Brea you have to be the most foolish poster I've ever seen on this site. Obviously Rob has you duped like most of his employees.



First of all you need to learn how to spell. The word decided is spelled decided not decieded as you spelled it. I before E except after C remember? Well maybe you were sleeping that day in the first grade it wouldn't surprise me. Also American has a capital A.



Although the personal attacks are a bit over the top they do make some sense into how your husband thinks. Your husband hit that car from behind and according to the law of any state that means it is 99%+ his fault so don't try to worm him out of it.



You conveniently left this huge fact out of your rebuttal. You told a half truth which is typical of how most managers tell their stories to interivews and employees so Rob taught you well.



He was well over 21 at the time so don't try the he was young and stupid card cause I'm not as dumb as you are. The point of that previous posting is if he'd flee the scene without reporting it and obeying the law for his own personal gain then he is capable of anything like running a scam company.



You mentioned how generous Rob is however I beg to differ. He wasn't generous at all to the two managers he blew out in Orlando now was he? In fact he doesn't even care about them because now they don't make him any money do they? So out of the four people you say he promoted two are gone and I don't know about the other two but they are soon to follow once they see what it is like to be a manager.



You are right in the fact Rob cares about his employees. If my entire income depended on people coming in everyday and selling I guess I'd care about them too! So again his true colors shine through. Once people quit he moves on like a predator who is awaiting his next victim.



As far as the company website is concerned you are right that no one starts without knowing what the entry level work consists of. This is because all new starts have been through three interviews but that is not the issue. You are totally avoiding the fact that the career ads you place completely mislead people into coming in for a first interview.



Avoiding the truth is a typical sales tactic used by most Cydcor managers. If applicants knew from the start they'd be knocking on doors for straight commission I'm sure you would not have such a large response to your advertisements.



Some of your ads are listed in the restaurant category of careerbuilder.com. Now lets see you reply and tell all of us how slinging office supplies door to door has anything to do with a restaurant position?



HMM I didn't think so. Don't try to say you sell office supplies to restaurants and that is the restaurant industry. Or how the compensation package is negotiable depending on experience when all employees are paid the same: straight commission whether they have 0 years experience or 10 years experience.



Besides your ads are all pointed towards entry level grads so why would you list compensation package is negotiable depending on experience? Now I know how you and Rob think on this one. The compensation package is depending on experience but you only pay the straight commission however in your minds you could pay more depending on experience but you won't.



See we could play these mind games all day but I am very smart and know how you people think.

The pages you say are so descriptive on the website state how the company uses direct marketing but most people don't know what that really means till the second interview and then it's too late.



So page three really doesn't give the real story at all. I can't believe you had the balls to try to lie about that.



Also why does Rob have to practice his first interview on you? Does he have to practice because he can't present to people and needs you to help build his confidence or wipe that white s#@t off the sides of his mouth?



Or is it so you know what he typically says to an interview and it prepares you to respond to questions on the phone from potential interviews and make it coherent to the first interview stuff they will hear from Rob when they come in? I think you know the answer to that one.



You encouraged everyone reading these postings to submit a resume and judge for themselves. Well if you actually read anything here you'd realize that everyone already has been in for an interview and, like me, is ticked off at wasting their time with your outfit.



Now Rob might be a good babysitter and diaper changer but that has nothing to do with his business ethics. Although I have to wonder about the communication in your relationship based on what you are doing. If you have to write postings without him knowing and if he'd be upset with you for not discussing this with him how good can your marriage be? Besides only 80 people coming for him to a wedding is pretty small. Most meaningful weddings have over 400 guests.



My advice to all those who are thinking about interviewing at R3 Enterprises/Pro Marketing Group is don't go unless you like making $100.00 per week and working 13 hours a day.



My advice to the current employees is get the hell out as fast as you can. There really are better jobs out there. Rob once said that anyone who leaves the company will not be successful. Well I can tell you he is dead wrong about that and uses that as a scare tactic just to keep you there making him money.



That's all I got for you I'm out.

After reading your posting Brea, you sent me over the edge. When I left R3 Enterprises/PMG two months ago Rob Reger made me feel pathetic. He told me I would never be able to make without his company. Since then I have noticed many postings on this site and now that I work for a quality organization I had to fire back. As far as being pathetic I believe your husband is the pathetic one.



I work for The Miami Dolphins front office and work half the hours your husband does with twice the pay. More importantly I have an honest living where I don't lie, cheat, or take advantage of my employees. I will not own the company as he said when I stepped down but I never wanted to own a business to begin with. That is the oldest line in your company, and most often used.



I do not live pay check to pay check like your husband said I would when I quit. In fact right now I could not get a pay check for 4 months and not even sweat. Don't be upset that you are ashamed of what you're husband does. He is a professional con artist who works for a pyramiding multi-level marketing scheme. The pages you think are so descriptive on the company website are not at all descriptive. True marketing is about coming up with solutions and ideas that help a company's public image and sales at the same time.



Refining the product, placement, price and promotion to suit the needs of the company, the customer and the marketplace are marketing. Knocking on doors all day and selling paper and toner is not marketing it is sales just admit. I can't believe I did it for as long as I did it. So look yourself in the mirror and maybe you will see who really is pathetic and who really should be ashamed.



The class level you show and the unprofessionalism makes me sick to my stomach. Your husband is nothing but a street hustling thug like you who has no class and probably no cares at all except for himself. In a lot of ways I feel sorry for you to be stuck with him. The way you're husband makes money is almost like a trafficker but at least traffickers tell the dealers what they are getting into.



One last thing have fun during the Owners weekend every year because that's the only vacation your hubby will get. Wait a minute here I'm losing my attitude I should be more positive. Well here is a list of positives associated with your company.



1.I'm positive you rip off your employees and waste interviews time.

2.I'm positive you are as vague as humanly possible in your career ads to get as many interview in as possible.

3.I'm positive only 1% of people get ahead in your company and that success comes at a huge cost.

4.I'm positive I am better than working 13 hour days for minimum wage.

5.I'm positive you are a low end wannabe sales company.

After reading your posting Brea, you sent me over the edge. When I left R3 Enterprises/PMG two months ago Rob Reger made me feel pathetic. He told me I would never be able to make without his company. Since then I have noticed many postings on this site and now that I work for a quality organization I had to fire back. As far as being pathetic I believe your husband is the pathetic one.



I work for The Miami Dolphins front office and work half the hours your husband does with twice the pay. More importantly I have an honest living where I don't lie, cheat, or take advantage of my employees. I will not own the company as he said when I stepped down but I never wanted to own a business to begin with. That is the oldest line in your company, and most often used.



I do not live pay check to pay check like your husband said I would when I quit. In fact right now I could not get a pay check for 4 months and not even sweat. Don't be upset that you are ashamed of what you're husband does. He is a professional con artist who works for a pyramiding multi-level marketing scheme. The pages you think are so descriptive on the company website are not at all descriptive. True marketing is about coming up with solutions and ideas that help a company's public image and sales at the same time.



Refining the product, placement, price and promotion to suit the needs of the company, the customer and the marketplace are marketing. Knocking on doors all day and selling paper and toner is not marketing it is sales just admit. I can't believe I did it for as long as I did it. So look yourself in the mirror and maybe you will see who really is pathetic and who really should be ashamed.



The class level you show and the unprofessionalism makes me sick to my stomach. Your husband is nothing but a street hustling thug like you who has no class and probably no cares at all except for himself. In a lot of ways I feel sorry for you to be stuck with him. The way you're husband makes money is almost like a trafficker but at least traffickers tell the dealers what they are getting into.



One last thing have fun during the Owners weekend every year because that's the only vacation your hubby will get. Wait a minute here I'm losing my attitude I should be more positive. Well here is a list of positives associated with your company.



1.I'm positive you rip off your employees and waste interviews time.

2.I'm positive you are as vague as humanly possible in your career ads to get as many interview in as possible.

3.I'm positive only 1% of people get ahead in your company and that success comes at a huge cost.

4.I'm positive I am better than working 13 hour days for minimum wage.

5.I'm positive you are a low end wannabe sales company.

After reading your posting Brea, you sent me over the edge. When I left R3 Enterprises/PMG two months ago Rob Reger made me feel pathetic. He told me I would never be able to make without his company. Since then I have noticed many postings on this site and now that I work for a quality organization I had to fire back. As far as being pathetic I believe your husband is the pathetic one.



I work for The Miami Dolphins front office and work half the hours your husband does with twice the pay. More importantly I have an honest living where I don't lie, cheat, or take advantage of my employees. I will not own the company as he said when I stepped down but I never wanted to own a business to begin with. That is the oldest line in your company, and most often used.



I do not live pay check to pay check like your husband said I would when I quit. In fact right now I could not get a pay check for 4 months and not even sweat. Don't be upset that you are ashamed of what you're husband does. He is a professional con artist who works for a pyramiding multi-level marketing scheme. The pages you think are so descriptive on the company website are not at all descriptive. True marketing is about coming up with solutions and ideas that help a company's public image and sales at the same time.



Refining the product, placement, price and promotion to suit the needs of the company, the customer and the marketplace are marketing. Knocking on doors all day and selling paper and toner is not marketing it is sales just admit. I can't believe I did it for as long as I did it. So look yourself in the mirror and maybe you will see who really is pathetic and who really should be ashamed.



The class level you show and the unprofessionalism makes me sick to my stomach. Your husband is nothing but a street hustling thug like you who has no class and probably no cares at all except for himself. In a lot of ways I feel sorry for you to be stuck with him. The way you're husband makes money is almost like a trafficker but at least traffickers tell the dealers what they are getting into.



One last thing have fun during the Owners weekend every year because that's the only vacation your hubby will get. Wait a minute here I'm losing my attitude I should be more positive. Well here is a list of positives associated with your company.



1.I'm positive you rip off your employees and waste interviews time.

2.I'm positive you are as vague as humanly possible in your career ads to get as many interview in as possible.

3.I'm positive only 1% of people get ahead in your company and that success comes at a huge cost.

4.I'm positive I am better than working 13 hour days for minimum wage.

5.I'm positive you are a low end wannabe sales company.

After reading your posting Brea, you sent me over the edge. When I left R3 Enterprises/PMG two months ago Rob Reger made me feel pathetic. He told me I would never be able to make without his company. Since then I have noticed many postings on this site and now that I work for a quality organization I had to fire back. As far as being pathetic I believe your husband is the pathetic one.



I work for The Miami Dolphins front office and work half the hours your husband does with twice the pay. More importantly I have an honest living where I don't lie, cheat, or take advantage of my employees. I will not own the company as he said when I stepped down but I never wanted to own a business to begin with. That is the oldest line in your company, and most often used.



I do not live pay check to pay check like your husband said I would when I quit. In fact right now I could not get a pay check for 4 months and not even sweat. Don't be upset that you are ashamed of what you're husband does. He is a professional con artist who works for a pyramiding multi-level marketing scheme. The pages you think are so descriptive on the company website are not at all descriptive. True marketing is about coming up with solutions and ideas that help a company's public image and sales at the same time.



Refining the product, placement, price and promotion to suit the needs of the company, the customer and the marketplace are marketing. Knocking on doors all day and selling paper and toner is not marketing it is sales just admit. I can't believe I did it for as long as I did it. So look yourself in the mirror and maybe you will see who really is pathetic and who really should be ashamed.



The class level you show and the unprofessionalism makes me sick to my stomach. Your husband is nothing but a street hustling thug like you who has no class and probably no cares at all except for himself. In a lot of ways I feel sorry for you to be stuck with him. The way you're husband makes money is almost like a trafficker but at least traffickers tell the dealers what they are getting into.



One last thing have fun during the Owners weekend every year because that's the only vacation your hubby will get. Wait a minute here I'm losing my attitude I should be more positive. Well here is a list of positives associated with your company.



1.I'm positive you rip off your employees and waste interviews time.

2.I'm positive you are as vague as humanly possible in your career ads to get as many interview in as possible.

3.I'm positive only 1% of people get ahead in your company and that success comes at a huge cost.

4.I'm positive I am better than working 13 hour days for minimum wage.

5.I'm positive you are a low end wannabe sales company.

Takes too long when you complain to FTC about the lies in recruiting ads.



Complain directly to careerbuilder and monster. Cite specific lies like base pay.



All DSMAX and Cydcor companies ads have the same lies.

Brea,



No offense, but if eveything is fine and dandy with your husband and his company, why are you even searching this information? You add fuel to the fire. If everything is great then why care? Move on, business as usual. We are nobodies here just adding our two cents. Like you said America free speech blah blah blah. The people who need the information have just reason now, more that ever not to go into R3 for an interview. You backed everything up. Thanx.

In my response here even though I hate everything about Cydcor, affiliates, and their system I'm going to have to admit that the personal attacks on Rob Reger are totally uncalled for. Brea, is right Rob himself isn't a bad person he's actually a pretty nice guy and I have no beef whatsoever with him or my former co-workers.



That being said I truly believe that the FTC should seriously look into Cydcor and affiliates and their deceptive advertising practices involving job openings. For these advertisements to state that you're salary is going to be $50k a year is absolutely ridiculous. This is a straight commission door-to-door sales job that's all. Nothing more, Nothing less. And for these owners to claim that they're making all of this money I have one question for you. Why aren't you drivin that brand new AMG Benz or Braccus imported from Germany with that high 6 figure income you're making? The answer is that it's all a lie. You might make over $200K year, but that doesn't include all of your employee payroll taxes (which are a ton), office rent, phone bills, etc. So after all of that how much are you really making? Not much I'll tell you that because I've seen where some of these people live and see what they drive. It isn't exactly Diddy style.



The other problem that I found when working for R3 Enterprises and visiting other cydcor affiliate offices was the cult like atmosphere that existed there. I mean come on. Always be happy, always act a certain way, never say anything negative about anything, and god forbit if you've just spent 8 hours out in the field w/o getting deal and are a little upset. You will be immediately repremanded for thinking that way because you "always have to think positively." On top of this there are crew night functions that you always have to go and if you don't god forbid you're not a team player. I mean when do you sip the kool-aid.



Finally, for anyone considering working for this company I some questions that I want to ask you.



Do you like racking up miles on your car w/o getting an allowance or at least some reimbursement for gas?



Do you like walking around for 8 hrs. straight outside in the sun annoying the hell out of small business owners and getting police called on you?



Do you like working for below minium wage when considering your salary, hours worked and expenses?



Do you like having to give up your commissions to new people when you're barely scratching by yourself?



Do you like having to pay for all of your meals and transportation costs when going on road trips?



Do you like becomming disenfranchised with friends and loved one who urge you to quit because you're so brainwashed into the cult?



Do you like running up credit card bills and debt just to barely get by and survive?



This list goes on and all. After answering these questions does this sound like a company that you would want to work for? I don't think so and I'm gonna be honest with people here. You have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting rich with this company. The turnover is unbelieveable. Rob interviews non-stop everyday from 8-4. Does this sound like a company that you want to work for where all the Manager does is interview all day.



For everyone out there stay away from this company and Cydcor affiliates! Working for them will be the biggest mistake of your life for the reasons mentioned above. Watch out Cydcor you got a former employee who knows all about your little pyramid scheme who's working on his J.D./MBA and plans to eventually go into corporate law.

In my response here even though I hate everything about Cydcor, affiliates, and their system I'm going to have to admit that the personal attacks on Rob Reger are totally uncalled for. Brea, is right Rob himself isn't a bad person he's actually a pretty nice guy and I have no beef whatsoever with him or my former co-workers.



That being said I truly believe that the FTC should seriously look into Cydcor and affiliates and their deceptive advertising practices involving job openings. For these advertisements to state that you're salary is going to be $50k a year is absolutely ridiculous. This is a straight commission door-to-door sales job that's all. Nothing more, Nothing less. And for these owners to claim that they're making all of this money I have one question for you. Why aren't you drivin that brand new AMG Benz or Braccus imported from Germany with that high 6 figure income you're making? The answer is that it's all a lie. You might make over $200K year, but that doesn't include all of your employee payroll taxes (which are a ton), office rent, phone bills, etc. So after all of that how much are you really making? Not much I'll tell you that because I've seen where some of these people live and see what they drive. It isn't exactly Diddy style.



The other problem that I found when working for R3 Enterprises and visiting other cydcor affiliate offices was the cult like atmosphere that existed there. I mean come on. Always be happy, always act a certain way, never say anything negative about anything, and god forbit if you've just spent 8 hours out in the field w/o getting deal and are a little upset. You will be immediately repremanded for thinking that way because you "always have to think positively." On top of this there are crew night functions that you always have to go and if you don't god forbid you're not a team player. I mean when do you sip the kool-aid.



Finally, for anyone considering working for this company I some questions that I want to ask you.



Do you like racking up miles on your car w/o getting an allowance or at least some reimbursement for gas?



Do you like walking around for 8 hrs. straight outside in the sun annoying the hell out of small business owners and getting police called on you?



Do you like working for below minium wage when considering your salary, hours worked and expenses?



Do you like having to give up your commissions to new people when you're barely scratching by yourself?



Do you like having to pay for all of your meals and transportation costs when going on road trips?



Do you like becomming disenfranchised with friends and loved one who urge you to quit because you're so brainwashed into the cult?



Do you like running up credit card bills and debt just to barely get by and survive?



This list goes on and all. After answering these questions does this sound like a company that you would want to work for? I don't think so and I'm gonna be honest with people here. You have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting rich with this company. The turnover is unbelieveable. Rob interviews non-stop everyday from 8-4. Does this sound like a company that you want to work for where all the Manager does is interview all day.



For everyone out there stay away from this company and Cydcor affiliates! Working for them will be the biggest mistake of your life for the reasons mentioned above. Watch out Cydcor you got a former employee who knows all about your little pyramid scheme who's working on his J.D./MBA and plans to eventually go into corporate law.

In my response here even though I hate everything about Cydcor, affiliates, and their system I'm going to have to admit that the personal attacks on Rob Reger are totally uncalled for. Brea, is right Rob himself isn't a bad person he's actually a pretty nice guy and I have no beef whatsoever with him or my former co-workers.



That being said I truly believe that the FTC should seriously look into Cydcor and affiliates and their deceptive advertising practices involving job openings. For these advertisements to state that you're salary is going to be $50k a year is absolutely ridiculous. This is a straight commission door-to-door sales job that's all. Nothing more, Nothing less. And for these owners to claim that they're making all of this money I have one question for you. Why aren't you drivin that brand new AMG Benz or Braccus imported from Germany with that high 6 figure income you're making? The answer is that it's all a lie. You might make over $200K year, but that doesn't include all of your employee payroll taxes (which are a ton), office rent, phone bills, etc. So after all of that how much are you really making? Not much I'll tell you that because I've seen where some of these people live and see what they drive. It isn't exactly Diddy style.



The other problem that I found when working for R3 Enterprises and visiting other cydcor affiliate offices was the cult like atmosphere that existed there. I mean come on. Always be happy, always act a certain way, never say anything negative about anything, and god forbit if you've just spent 8 hours out in the field w/o getting deal and are a little upset. You will be immediately repremanded for thinking that way because you "always have to think positively." On top of this there are crew night functions that you always have to go and if you don't god forbid you're not a team player. I mean when do you sip the kool-aid.



Finally, for anyone considering working for this company I some questions that I want to ask you.



Do you like racking up miles on your car w/o getting an allowance or at least some reimbursement for gas?



Do you like walking around for 8 hrs. straight outside in the sun annoying the hell out of small business owners and getting police called on you?



Do you like working for below minium wage when considering your salary, hours worked and expenses?



Do you like having to give up your commissions to new people when you're barely scratching by yourself?



Do you like having to pay for all of your meals and transportation costs when going on road trips?



Do you like becomming disenfranchised with friends and loved one who urge you to quit because you're so brainwashed into the cult?



Do you like running up credit card bills and debt just to barely get by and survive?



This list goes on and all. After answering these questions does this sound like a company that you would want to work for? I don't think so and I'm gonna be honest with people here. You have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting rich with this company. The turnover is unbelieveable. Rob interviews non-stop everyday from 8-4. Does this sound like a company that you want to work for where all the Manager does is interview all day.



For everyone out there stay away from this company and Cydcor affiliates! Working for them will be the biggest mistake of your life for the reasons mentioned above. Watch out Cydcor you got a former employee who knows all about your little pyramid scheme who's working on his J.D./MBA and plans to eventually go into corporate law.

The only reason that I used any political jargon is to reference time frames. Nothing more and nothing less. I was simply letting people know that the events in question happened a long time ago. The World has changed a lot in the last 4 and a half years and I was simply sighting one example.

Brea,



Your husband might very well be a great man. My owners were two good people that I spent a lot of time with. That is why I don't give their names on this forum. They would never have cheated me.



But the sad fact is that the business your husband is in is evil. It puts a lot of people in the poor house. Interviewers get mislead and told only part of the truth when they first start. And then later they are told the whole truth and it is justified that people must be in the business for a while to see how it works and get commited before they can be told everything. Hmmm...could that mean that if someone was told up front that if they were going to take a commission only job that required attending 2 unpaid gatherings a day with no reimbursement for transportation in the field and that a rep would be required to divide his earnings in order to help train others - would all this and more make people shy a way from a job interview? Would it make someone shy a way from an interview if they were to learn how many reps end up living together in a house or an appartment because they can't make enough money to live on their own? Or that only one in hundreds of the people that actually take the job ever really make any kind of decent money at all and the most people leave in debt? How big was your husbands turn over this year? How many of his reps were really making below minimum wage? Is there a merch house or two in the office? What happens in to people in the office that don't promote what he wants them to promote or that don't attend the twice daily atmospheres?



Your husband did not create this business. He is just caught up in it. It is easy to get caught up in the goals and deceptions of this company. They've been doing it for a quarter of a century. Mind control. Cult tactics. Get the guy to think you want them to think 24/7. I hope for your sakes that you guys find a more honest line of work.

Do you even know what your talking about. What does bush or clinton have to do with your husbands dishonesty? The fact is your husband is doing the same thing every other manager does in this company. They are all taught the same tatics as assistants. See every one says people fall out of the cracks when they get broke. Thats not the only time. Some people quit (such as myself) when they learn all the decietful tricks of the trade and it bothers there sense of morals. And secondly a dui is a dui, a hit and run is a hit and run. It wouldnt matter what state he was in and who was the current president (WOW i cant even believe you made that statement) your husband would have still gotten in trouble. And most importantly, your right, your husbands criminal past has no bearing on what he does today. I have met a ton of immoral people who would shot there own mother for financial gain and they have a spot free criminal record. All im saying is if your want to defend your husband, dont make excuses or blame the president in office. If hes not doing anything wrong then defend him with legitimate proof and not some off the wall conspiracy theory. Whats next, the moons cresent patterns gonna dictate how a person runs a buisness?

I have been involved in conspiracies and scandals for years. I can say from my experience that Rob Reger is and honest caring guy. His company would never decieve anyone at all. The career ads tell you exactly what the company does and exactly what the job is. Rob would never cheat his current or especially former employees. His wife is obviously not biased at all even though she is his wife. He is definitely "not a crook."

So Rob was a criminal because of the Clinton Administration.



And the Bush Administration has made him law biding.

My name is Mrs. Brea Reger ( Rob's Wife) and I am so appalled at the ridiculous lies that this particular report tells and the gross mis-characterizations of my husband listed here that I felt that I had no choice but to respond. My husband is the most wonderful, caring, nice, generous, patient and loving person in the World. He is not only the best husband that anyone could ask for, but he is also the best father to our 2 children. He is also the best brother and friend and role model to anybody that wants to live his or her life right. Any person who thinks otherwise doesn't know him at all. You may not like Cydcor or like the program or you have the right to think it is a scam. That is your right as an American, however, when you get personal, that is taking it way too far and when you bring up incidents that occurred during the Clinton Administration as a character assassination, that is beyond comprehension.



For anybody reading this report, I will now briefly summarize the above link to the police reports so you can save some time. Basically, what you see is that in his 14 years as an adult, Rob Reger has had 3 interactions with any kind of officer of the law. None of these incidents have occurred since George Bush became President. The first was a speeding ticket for going 10 mph over the limit, while he was in college. The second

was a DUI in 1996, also while he was in College (probably not the first time that a college student drove home after a college football game after drinking too much) That doesn't make it right, just an observation. The third incident mentioned is a hit and run conviction in 2000 in which Rob got into a minor accident that caused zero damage to his car. He waited at the scene for 20 minutes (facts confirmed by multiple eye witnesses)for the other car to return to the scene. The other car left the scene and decieded to call the police 45 minutes after the accident (also confirmed by police reports). Because there was no damage to his car and the other person didn't seem to be coming back, Rob chose to go home instead of dealing with the hassle of filling out a police report and having his insurance go up, when he had no damage and didn't see the other license plate. The accident wasn't even his fault. However, under Wisconsin law, any person involved in any type of accident, no matter how small or no matter how long you wait, is required to call the police. Even if the other car takes off. If you do not call, it is categorized as a hit and run. My comment to the person that wrote that last report is that you couldn't be farther from the truth with your characterization of Rob. How could you say such a deceitful thing about a person without having any of the facts? Did you read the police report or court transcripts? Well, I did and what he did, although not 100% right, does not make him the hardened criminal that you make him out to be. In the last 4 and a half years, Rob has not done one thing wrong, not even a parking ticket or a warning.



This last posting was the one that put me over the edge. The other ones are just simply ridiculous lies. The first one had about 2 lines of truth to it. The other ones were from people who weren't really with the company long enough to know what is up.



The bottom line is, whenever I have needed emotional or financial support, Rob is there. Whenever one of our kids wakes up crying in the middle of the night, Rob is just as likely to get up as I am. Whenever one of the kids has a soccer game or an event at school, he is there. No matter what kind of a day that he had or how tired he is at the end of the day, he will always spend at least an hour playing with the kids every night. This occurs before he even gets the chance to change his clothes or eat dinner. The needs of his family always come first. In fact, I have never seen him in a bad mood. Rob has been extremely generous with not only his money, but also his time for various charities and causes. He has donated money or volunteered for Dare, toys for tots, the american cancer society, MS, and the Special Olympics. This is the REAL Rob Reger. The same person that had 80 people fly in for our wedding from various places to spend their hard earned money to see him get married. If the things written on this site were true, do you really think that would have happened?



Finally, I encourage anyone reading these postings to submit a resume and judge for yourself. I am sorry to anyone who has been burned by any affiliate. The fact of the matter is that Rob is not that way. What many people don't realize is that for an owner to become an owner, they have to go through the same program that some people call a scam. This proves that it is not a scam. Our family has benefitted tremendously by this business ( I know because I deposit his checks and they are very large) financially and contrary to popular belief, he does not lie, use or deceive people to make money. It is impossible for somebody to start with our company without knowing exactly what it is that entry level work consists of. To illustrate, on every single ad that we place, we encourage people to read the website. Page 3 of the website states exactly what we do. In the first interview, which Rob has done on me before, Rob tells people specific examples of specific clients in detail. After that, if somebody is still confused, we take them out into the field to experience entry-level work and give them a written copy of our typical compenstion package and business model. Anybody who knows anything about his business model knows that the way to achieve the most is by promoting the most managers.



In the last year, he has promoted 4 people into management. These are people that I know very well personally. So what he is doing is working. I agree that there should be a forum for bad companies, but when people start making up lies and allegations that are completely false it makes this sight almost seem like a parody. It also paints an unfair picture because very seldom will somebody who is happy at their company even come to a site like this. I know my husband better than anyone on this Earth and I know that he is a genuine caring man who wants all of his employees to do well. He is deeply religious, doesn't drink anymore, doesn't smoke, doesn't do any kind of drugs. He is a positive influence on almost anyone that he comes into contact with and a great role model for our children and his brothers. He lives his life and runs his business with hard work and integrity. I had better stop now because he doesn't know that I am writing this and will probably be upset that I did, but I had to defend him because he is truly a great person and was being portrayed in completely the wrong light.

My name is Mrs. Brea Reger ( Rob's Wife) and I am so appalled at the ridiculous lies that this particular report tells and the gross mis-characterizations of my husband listed here that I felt that I had no choice but to respond. My husband is the most wonderful, caring, nice, generous, patient and loving person in the World. He is not only the best husband that anyone could ask for, but he is also the best father to our 2 children. He is also the best brother and friend and role model to anybody that wants to live his or her life right. Any person who thinks otherwise doesn't know him at all. You may not like Cydcor or like the program or you have the right to think it is a scam. That is your right as an American, however, when you get personal, that is taking it way too far and when you bring up incidents that occurred during the Clinton Administration as a character assassination, that is beyond comprehension.



For anybody reading this report, I will now briefly summarize the above link to the police reports so you can save some time. Basically, what you see is that in his 14 years as an adult, Rob Reger has had 3 interactions with any kind of officer of the law. None of these incidents have occurred since George Bush became President. The first was a speeding ticket for going 10 mph over the limit, while he was in college. The second

was a DUI in 1996, also while he was in College (probably not the first time that a college student drove home after a college football game after drinking too much) That doesn't make it right, just an observation. The third incident mentioned is a hit and run conviction in 2000 in which Rob got into a minor accident that caused zero damage to his car. He waited at the scene for 20 minutes (facts confirmed by multiple eye witnesses)for the other car to return to the scene. The other car left the scene and decieded to call the police 45 minutes after the accident (also confirmed by police reports). Because there was no damage to his car and the other person didn't seem to be coming back, Rob chose to go home instead of dealing with the hassle of filling out a police report and having his insurance go up, when he had no damage and didn't see the other license plate. The accident wasn't even his fault. However, under Wisconsin law, any person involved in any type of accident, no matter how small or no matter how long you wait, is required to call the police. Even if the other car takes off. If you do not call, it is categorized as a hit and run. My comment to the person that wrote that last report is that you couldn't be farther from the truth with your characterization of Rob. How could you say such a deceitful thing about a person without having any of the facts? Did you read the police report or court transcripts? Well, I did and what he did, although not 100% right, does not make him the hardened criminal that you make him out to be. In the last 4 and a half years, Rob has not done one thing wrong, not even a parking ticket or a warning.



This last posting was the one that put me over the edge. The other ones are just simply ridiculous lies. The first one had about 2 lines of truth to it. The other ones were from people who weren't really with the company long enough to know what is up.



The bottom line is, whenever I have needed emotional or financial support, Rob is there. Whenever one of our kids wakes up crying in the middle of the night, Rob is just as likely to get up as I am. Whenever one of the kids has a soccer game or an event at school, he is there. No matter what kind of a day that he had or how tired he is at the end of the day, he will always spend at least an hour playing with the kids every night. This occurs before he even gets the chance to change his clothes or eat dinner. The needs of his family always come first. In fact, I have never seen him in a bad mood. Rob has been extremely generous with not only his money, but also his time for various charities and causes. He has donated money or volunteered for Dare, toys for tots, the american cancer society, MS, and the Special Olympics. This is the REAL Rob Reger. The same person that had 80 people fly in for our wedding from various places to spend their hard earned money to see him get married. If the things written on this site were true, do you really think that would have happened?



Finally, I encourage anyone reading these postings to submit a resume and judge for yourself. I am sorry to anyone who has been burned by any affiliate. The fact of the matter is that Rob is not that way. What many people don't realize is that for an owner to become an owner, they have to go through the same program that some people call a scam. This proves that it is not a scam. Our family has benefitted tremendously by this business ( I know because I deposit his checks and they are very large) financially and contrary to popular belief, he does not lie, use or deceive people to make money. It is impossible for somebody to start with our company without knowing exactly what it is that entry level work consists of. To illustrate, on every single ad that we place, we encourage people to read the website. Page 3 of the website states exactly what we do. In the first interview, which Rob has done on me before, Rob tells people specific examples of specific clients in detail. After that, if somebody is still confused, we take them out into the field to experience entry-level work and give them a written copy of our typical compenstion package and business model. Anybody who knows anything about his business model knows that the way to achieve the most is by promoting the most managers.



In the last year, he has promoted 4 people into management. These are people that I know very well personally. So what he is doing is working. I agree that there should be a forum for bad companies, but when people start making up lies and allegations that are completely false it makes this sight almost seem like a parody. It also paints an unfair picture because very seldom will somebody who is happy at their company even come to a site like this. I know my husband better than anyone on this Earth and I know that he is a genuine caring man who wants all of his employees to do well. He is deeply religious, doesn't drink anymore, doesn't smoke, doesn't do any kind of drugs. He is a positive influence on almost anyone that he comes into contact with and a great role model for our children and his brothers. He lives his life and runs his business with hard work and integrity. I had better stop now because he doesn't know that I am writing this and will probably be upset that I did, but I had to defend him because he is truly a great person and was being portrayed in completely the wrong light.

My name is Mrs. Brea Reger ( Rob's Wife) and I am so appalled at the ridiculous lies that this particular report tells and the gross mis-characterizations of my husband listed here that I felt that I had no choice but to respond. My husband is the most wonderful, caring, nice, generous, patient and loving person in the World. He is not only the best husband that anyone could ask for, but he is also the best father to our 2 children. He is also the best brother and friend and role model to anybody that wants to live his or her life right. Any person who thinks otherwise doesn't know him at all. You may not like Cydcor or like the program or you have the right to think it is a scam. That is your right as an American, however, when you get personal, that is taking it way too far and when you bring up incidents that occurred during the Clinton Administration as a character assassination, that is beyond comprehension.



For anybody reading this report, I will now briefly summarize the above link to the police reports so you can save some time. Basically, what you see is that in his 14 years as an adult, Rob Reger has had 3 interactions with any kind of officer of the law. None of these incidents have occurred since George Bush became President. The first was a speeding ticket for going 10 mph over the limit, while he was in college. The second

was a DUI in 1996, also while he was in College (probably not the first time that a college student drove home after a college football game after drinking too much) That doesn't make it right, just an observation. The third incident mentioned is a hit and run conviction in 2000 in which Rob got into a minor accident that caused zero damage to his car. He waited at the scene for 20 minutes (facts confirmed by multiple eye witnesses)for the other car to return to the scene. The other car left the scene and decieded to call the police 45 minutes after the accident (also confirmed by police reports). Because there was no damage to his car and the other person didn't seem to be coming back, Rob chose to go home instead of dealing with the hassle of filling out a police report and having his insurance go up, when he had no damage and didn't see the other license plate. The accident wasn't even his fault. However, under Wisconsin law, any person involved in any type of accident, no matter how small or no matter how long you wait, is required to call the police. Even if the other car takes off. If you do not call, it is categorized as a hit and run. My comment to the person that wrote that last report is that you couldn't be farther from the truth with your characterization of Rob. How could you say such a deceitful thing about a person without having any of the facts? Did you read the police report or court transcripts? Well, I did and what he did, although not 100% right, does not make him the hardened criminal that you make him out to be. In the last 4 and a half years, Rob has not done one thing wrong, not even a parking ticket or a warning.



This last posting was the one that put me over the edge. The other ones are just simply ridiculous lies. The first one had about 2 lines of truth to it. The other ones were from people who weren't really with the company long enough to know what is up.



The bottom line is, whenever I have needed emotional or financial support, Rob is there. Whenever one of our kids wakes up crying in the middle of the night, Rob is just as likely to get up as I am. Whenever one of the kids has a soccer game or an event at school, he is there. No matter what kind of a day that he had or how tired he is at the end of the day, he will always spend at least an hour playing with the kids every night. This occurs before he even gets the chance to change his clothes or eat dinner. The needs of his family always come first. In fact, I have never seen him in a bad mood. Rob has been extremely generous with not only his money, but also his time for various charities and causes. He has donated money or volunteered for Dare, toys for tots, the american cancer society, MS, and the Special Olympics. This is the REAL Rob Reger. The same person that had 80 people fly in for our wedding from various places to spend their hard earned money to see him get married. If the things written on this site were true, do you really think that would have happened?



Finally, I encourage anyone reading these postings to submit a resume and judge for yourself. I am sorry to anyone who has been burned by any affiliate. The fact of the matter is that Rob is not that way. What many people don't realize is that for an owner to become an owner, they have to go through the same program that some people call a scam. This proves that it is not a scam. Our family has benefitted tremendously by this business ( I know because I deposit his checks and they are very large) financially and contrary to popular belief, he does not lie, use or deceive people to make money. It is impossible for somebody to start with our company without knowing exactly what it is that entry level work consists of. To illustrate, on every single ad that we place, we encourage people to read the website. Page 3 of the website states exactly what we do. In the first interview, which Rob has done on me before, Rob tells people specific examples of specific clients in detail. After that, if somebody is still confused, we take them out into the field to experience entry-level work and give them a written copy of our typical compenstion package and business model. Anybody who knows anything about his business model knows that the way to achieve the most is by promoting the most managers.



In the last year, he has promoted 4 people into management. These are people that I know very well personally. So what he is doing is working. I agree that there should be a forum for bad companies, but when people start making up lies and allegations that are completely false it makes this sight almost seem like a parody. It also paints an unfair picture because very seldom will somebody who is happy at their company even come to a site like this. I know my husband better than anyone on this Earth and I know that he is a genuine caring man who wants all of his employees to do well. He is deeply religious, doesn't drink anymore, doesn't smoke, doesn't do any kind of drugs. He is a positive influence on almost anyone that he comes into contact with and a great role model for our children and his brothers. He lives his life and runs his business with hard work and integrity. I had better stop now because he doesn't know that I am writing this and will probably be upset that I did, but I had to defend him because he is truly a great person and was being portrayed in completely the wrong light.

I want to start by thanking God for this posting. I went in for an interview at R3 Enterprises and after meeting Rob Reger that was all I needed to see. I had read these reports but wanted to give the company the benefit of the doubt anyway. I also had a second interview and the job was nothing that I thought it would be. The job description was NOTHING like the actual job. After meeting Rob Reger I knew this was a scam but I was shocked to learn he is a convicted felon too. On the company website, which is meaningless by the way, it said Rob was from Wisconsin. My dad is a state Trooper and did a search on Rob Reger and found a record a mile long in Wisconsin. It turns out he was convicted of a felony for a hit and run/leaving the scene of an accident. He was also charged with resisting or obstructing an officer. I figure if the guy would run from the scene of an accident and give no care if someone was seriously hurt or possibly killed, then what kind of a boss would I be working for? Whose interests would he really have regard for, his or his employees? I am taking the advice of this site and running like hell. After the second interview, I decided not to have a third interview and I can say I will not be accepting a position there. If you want to see this information for yourself, go to this website to see the felony record of Robert R Reger.



http://wcca.wicourts.gov/index.xsl



Just click on the I agree button



Then enter the name Reger Robert R



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I also want to encourage everyone here to notify Career Builder and Monster about the fraudulent advertisements for this company. They are not totally telling the truth and are wasting people's time. I only applied because the job posting listed a base salary but yet I found out in the interview process the pay is based on commission only. Come to think of it the ad I responded to said the company was involved in the medical profession. So how does selling office products door to door relate to the world of medicine? Something here doesn't make sense. I feel very sorry for the employees of R3 Enterprises. Your manager is not telling you all the facts about this shady company.

I used to work for Apex Marketing and Promotions. The manager is Stefan Mainhart. His company is a part of the Raf Diaz organization www.pmg-affiliates.com



On their web-site R3 and Bishop marketing are listed as offices in their organization. I guess Stefan actually promoted a deal and left them in Manayunk, PA. Now he is shacked up in Ft. Lauderdale with R3. Does anyone know what the deal is down there? I know this change is very recent so if anyone has info, please share.



If anyone finds this post and is in the process of or already working for either of these people, run like hell!!



All of the posts about R3 and all of the shady deceptive practices identically mirror how Stefan Mainhart runs his deal. He is a terrible person and a shitty manager. I feel bad for the people who actually followed him down there.



I didn't think it was possible to find someone who was as much of a scumbag as Stefan, but it looks like Reger is a perfect match. I hope they are happy together.

Finally an outlet to which I can say all that is wrong with R3 Enterprises, Cydcorp, and it's affiliates. First of all I was just like everybody else fresh from college young, hardworking, and of course money hungry. When I first moved down here I was looking for a job that offered me the potential of future growth and financial prosperity. And after interviewing with one Rob Reger at R3 Enterprises I took the bait hook, line, and sinker. Man was I stupid. Now when it comes to talking and trying to sell you on the job and the potential to own your own business Mr. Reger is definately a pro. This guy could convince an Eskimo to buy ice cubes. And unforunately for me I didn't realize until about 6 weeks after I started during which I was practically a sweatshop worker earning practically nothing while spending a ton of money on gas, going broke, and racking up bills. AND I WAS A CAMPAIGN MANAGER! Thankfully I was able to lean on the support of my parents who helped me get out of the bad situation I was in. Only now am I starting to crawl out of that financial hole. Now when it came to R3 Roadtrips the previous poster is right in that the accomodations aren't exactly 1st class. Trust me from the first hand experience at the North Ft. Myers Days Inn, which was one of the worst hotels I have ever stayed in. And I'm not exactly picky being a former undergraduate college student. On roadtrips you have to pay for your own gas and food and don't get reimbursed at all. Sometimes you have to let the trip organizer drive YOUR CAR because they didn't bring theres. Now what type of REAL company does that? The answer is none. Any real outside sales company will give you at least a car allowance and a travel allowance for road trips. Does R3 Provide that. Absolutely not. And don't get me started on the trip to New Orleans that took 3 buses 22+ hours for a cydcorp communist party conference. I say communist party because that's what it felt like because you were pretty much forced to stand up and salute all of the cydcorp board members (party leaders) every 5 seconds. And to finally top everything off I never got my final pay check. All-in-all I'm doing great now and the decison to leave R3 Enterprises was a great decision. I'm currently a JD/MBA Student at Nova Southeastern University here in Ft. Lauderdale and never been better getting to interact with REAL CEO's and presidents of Fortune 500 companies. For any current R3 Employees you guys are good people so my advice is to get out of there as soon as possible. Trust me you'll be better off.

I wish I had visited this website before I decide to accept a position with R3.



Right from the start I was skepticle. I could tell there was something fishy. I was invited to a "leaders" meeting. It was more of a peprally and a motivational cult meeting. Lets all start sipping the kool-aide. After the meeting two of my coworkers and myself piled into a van and departed for an 18 hour journey to Houston. On the way to Houston we found out that no real arrangments had been made for us to have sleeping quarters in Houston.



Upon our arrivale we found the owner of that local branch of Cydcor and went back to her apartment, a one bedroom in the ghetto. All our trip leader could tell us was all the office owners where frugal or just saving money. We called Rob Reger and he just said to make the best of the situation. MAKE THE BEST OF THE SITUATION!!!



You drive 18 hours, then sleep on a filthy floor, and still meet your quota for the entire week just so Rob will pay for your gas. The other young man and I decided to split a hotel room for the night. All our trip leader could say was it was not a wise buisness decision for Rob to put us in a hotel.



After a ten hour day on monday I decided to get on a plane and fly myself back to South Florida and cut my losses, the best decision I have made since joining the team at R3.

I also had a miserable experience at R3 Enterprises. I worked there for only two weeks but that was enough to see this was a scam. I "rang the bell" almost every day on a "business trip." When I confronted Rob about my doubts about the company he skirted the issue. Rob Reger is a shifty-eyed lier and if he had to stick to the truth then he would have very little to say.