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Complaint Review: Scentura creations/Nick Guerra - Baton Rouge Louisiana

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  • Scentura creations/Nick Guerra Jeffery Dr Baton Rouge, Louisiana United States of America

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YES I'VE WORKED AT THIS "OPPORTUNITY" WHICH IS A COMPLETE MIND GAME

1. This "franchise owner" NICK GUERRA is a complete joke claims to be married to one of the sec & they have a child "together" when clearly he is q***r as (jack from will&grace),wears these tight nuthugging pants so tight you would swear he get a yeast infection if he was what he wanted to be which is a woman,now the child is beautiful but I was only there for a short time & he's narcissist sarcastic  from the way he wants everything so perfect I know for certain he wouldn't have slept with that slopthing of a sec lady,no affection(i know not at wk but really? no hug,lingering touch,nada) so its safe to say artificial insemination

2. It's just not him he gets all the other e.o.'s to conspire with him give all this great info  you'll get all of this money, notoriety, opportunities,etc... Which is B.S.

3. He says you'll have all these opportunities to make money in training which is so far from the truth, they give you a pep talk for 2 hrs then send you out (i mean pimp you out) for 5-7hrs a day to rove all over gods creation to sell renditions that hardly noone wants,you use your car and he piles the other e.o.'s which have no cars nobody ever has any gas money,put wear and on your vehicle which of course is on you& then the e.o.'s has the nerve to wanna drive your sh*t!!!

4.ok so this is a great opportunity right? These e.o.'s have all been there a minimum of a year now why the HELL DO THEY STAY IN THE WORST AREA IN BATON ROUGE (IN GARDERE OF ALL PLACES) PLUS THEY ALL ROOMMATE TOGETHER OF COURSE THEY'RE HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER(WELL AT LEAST TWO THAT I KNOW FOR SURE) NOT ONE OF THEM HAD A CAR BETWEEN ALL 6 OF EM, TIGHTPANTS MADE THEM CATCH CABS TO WK (AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE OF COURSE) I MEAN IT'S LIKE THEY ONLY HIRED PEOPLE W/CARS HOW ELSE WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO "MERCH" W/NEW HIRES? THEN HAD THE NERVE TO SAY TAKE MERCH HOME AND DO IT AT NIGHT!!WTF!! ON WHAT?THE XTRA $5 WE GOT FROM A SELL IF THAT!! AND THE PROMOTIONS ITS ALL BASED ON NUMBERS HOW MANY BOTTLES YOU SELL,IF YOU SOLD MORE THAN EVERYBODY E.O.'S INCLUDES THEN YOU GET PROMOTED,HOWS THAT FOR EEOE. nick guerra USED US,PIMPED US WHILE SMILING,HE NEVER OFFERED A DOLLAR FOR GAS,WHAT ABOUT THESE E.O.'s NOT BEING ON OUR INS. ANY OTHER REPUTABLE CO. WOULDNT ALLOW IT & IF IT IS HE PAID FOR A REPUTATION I KNOW B/C HE ACTUALLY TOLD US!!!

5. It's ok for a person who still lives at home w/their parents &has no obligations. I mean god how was I supposed to pay rent,lights,car ins& food on table, I mean was I supposed to go homeless,sleep in my vehicle outside the office,do my laundry in a river, wash up in bathroom & come inside w/a smile & say READY TO MERCH!!!!!

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#11 Author of original report

Not Gone

AUTHOR: Baton Rouge - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, February 13, 2012

Ok Nick, I'm done......but somebody said that was just a half a*s attempt at an apology, is that right?
Not bitter by a longshot, more like pissed for being used,wasting my time,energy and resources on bullshit that was strictly for your gain.
My report wasnt meant to be PROFESSIONAL uhhh helloo its called RIP OFF REPORT!!!(IT WAS MEANT FOR ME TO GET IT ALL OUT)
Yeah Rio i kinda feel  like I was f@$&%ed in the a@# but w/no lube, & I didnt get my $20!! Where the hell is it?

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#10 Author of original report

Not Gone

AUTHOR: Baton Rouge - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, February 13, 2012

Ok Nick, I'm done......but somebody said that was just a half a*s attempt at an apology, is that right?
Not bitter by a longshot, more like pissed for being used,wasting my time,energy and resources on bullshit that was strictly for your gain.
My report wasnt meant to be PROFESSIONAL uhhh helloo its called RIP OFF REPORT!!!(IT WAS MEANT FOR ME TO GET IT ALL OUT)
Yeah Rio i kinda feel  like I was f@$&%ed in the a@# but w/no lube, & I didnt get my $20!! Where the hell is it?

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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

We are winning. Scentura is losing.

AUTHOR: Rio - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, February 12, 2012

Good to see you again as well. Scentura is losing ground and that is because of people like you and I. Their time is up and time for them to plumb some other scam.

I would have checked in earlier, but I was busy working a real job. As expected, I've noticed all the original posters have evaporated. What a hangover it must be to realize you've been brainwashed and f..... in the a.. like a $20 dollar w***e.

The war has already been won, it's just a matter of time now.

-Rio

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#8 General Comment

Lesson Learned My A** Little Nikki!! Hello Again Rio my friend!!

AUTHOR: ScenturaSux - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, February 09, 2012

Heres how it is Little Nikki, You are a business owner and therefore you should show more professionalism than the person who filed the complaint. Think about it, youre trying to defend your business, if an outsider reads your rebuttal theyll see an owner who threatens physical violence and calls people names. I realize that Scenutra has brainwashed you to never think outside the box, but in ANY other company an owner trying to defend their business usually conducts themselves at least somewhat professionally (including other direct sales companies).

However, since Scenturas Distribution Model is based entirely on brainwashing, lies and deception, I guess its asking too much for honesty and professionalism. Sure the original complaint wasnt the most professional in the world, but your response was even worse and you even took it a step further by revealing personal information about someone that once worked for you, who wasnt even the original complaintant, thats technically illegal (tort, not criminal.)

You missed the point on the Court Case, the case ruled that a contract between Scentura and a distributor was part of a Pyramid Sales Scheme that violated the law and was unenforceable. The case itself had nothing to do with misleading people, but was based on the entire Scentura business model. This perhaps explains the false advertising and hostility toward any decenters because you dont want people to find out about the dishonesty involved in running a Scentura office.

So maybe I dont have a legal case but neither do you. If people heed my call and successfully shut down your office or one of your promotions, you also have no legal recourse. So here we are.
 
Your exact words: You cant scam a broke person. You have nothing to offer us.  Im glad someone finally admitted theyre out to scam people. Congratulations!! Youve finally come to terms with what your line of work truly entails.

Readers on this site dont care about the person filing the complaint because theyre not the ones trying to defend their business. So keep up the personal attacks and further prove my point, be my guest. The more people that see how unprofessionally you and other Scentura Cult Leaders conduct themselves the more likely they are to blowout. Keep it Up!!

Oh and nice try on playing the apology and lesson learned attempt at professionalism. Nobodys buying it.

Peace Out Readers!! Welcome Back Rio!!

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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Are you kidding?

AUTHOR: Rio - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 07, 2012

This is the best Scentura has to offer? Some foul-mouthed thug who can't even spell? Pay attention kids, this is important. If you wish to give Scentura Creations a whirl, this is what you can expect. Thuggish, uneducated, unclassy, meth addicted churls who represent the absolute bottom of the business class in America.

God help you.

Rio  

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#6 General Comment

!!!YOU WIN!!!

AUTHOR: All smiles - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 07, 2012

THIS IS TIRESOME AND EXHAUSTING.
OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT I DID MADE YOU SO BITTER, AND FOR THAT
I APOLOGIZE.(accept or not I still am sorry)
ILL ADMIT I AM A p***k AT TIMES. AND I CAN BE VERY DETAILED.
BUT EVERYONE ISN'T GOING TO AGREE NOR LIKE ME.
BUT WHAT I CAN DO IS LEARN FROM THIS SITUATION.
I FILL THAT I RUN A GREAT OFFICE,(I have the least complaints of any office on the Internet)
And THAT IF ANY OF MY PEOPLE HAVE AN ISSUE OR THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THEN THEY CAN KNOCK ON MY DOOR ANYTIME.
BUT SOMEHOW I MUST'VE LOST THAT.
ALL I CAN DO IS LEARN FROM THIS COMPLAINT AND IMPROVE.
AS THEY SAY, COMPLAINTS DO HOLD SOME TRUTH. AND INTERPRETATION IS EVERYTHING.
MY INTENTIONS ARE NEVER TO USE ANYBODY.
I LOVE THIS BUSINESS,AND AS A BUSINESS OWNER I HATE TO LOSE SOMEONE GOOD.
GROWING PAINS :)

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#5 Author of original report

A BUNCH OF BULL

AUTHOR: Baton Rouge - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, February 06, 2012

NICKYYY THIS ISNT LOGANNNN!!! OMG JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU PISSED OFF WITH YOUR BULLS**T? I FEEL SO SPECIAL, TO HAVE HAD YOU ACTUALLY COME OUT AND RESPOND TO SOMETHING THAT IS "BENEATH YOU". MY SMALL EXPOSE` MUST HAVE TO HAVE HAD BEEN TRUE THEN, RIGHT? TO BE CLEAR, I NEVER SAID YOU HAD ILL FEELINGS TOWARDS THE GAYS, I SAID YOU WERE GAY, HOW CAN U?, WHEN YOU ARE. I GUESS LOGAN GOT TIRED OF YOUR CRAP ALSO. THATS WHAT YOU DO,YOU ARENT REALLY LOOKING TO HIRE ANYBODY, YOU'RE JUST LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO HELP ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOALS, THE MORE PEOPLE YOU "HIRE" THE MONEY AND THE SALES GO UP. THATS WHY YOU HAVE SUCH A HIGH TURNOVER RATE! B/C AS SOON AS PEOPLE CATCH ON THEIR OUTTA THERE!! (IDK WHY I JUST SAID TURNOVER,YOU HAVENT HIRED ANYONE IN YEARS HAVE YOU?) YOU ARE A USER, EVEN THE FLUNKIES (E.OS) AROUND YOU DONT LIKE YOU, THEY DONT EVEN WANNA GO TO ANOTHER STATE TO OPEN A NEW STORE W/YOU, NOW THATS SAD, THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE MONEY BUT NOT IF IT ENVOLVES YOU, WOW! 

P.S. NUTHUGGERS ARE NOT WHAT'S UP, ON ANY MAN. I WOULDNT BRAG ABOUT IT IF I WERE YOU SOME OF YOUR SHIRTS WERE SMALL TO, WHILE YOU WERE SHOPPING IN "VEGAS" YOU SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT CLOTHES THAT FIT

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#4 General Comment

EYE FOR AN EYE

AUTHOR: All smiles - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, January 27, 2012

WHAT AN IDIOT!!!!
MISINFORMED DELUDED COPY AND PASTE IDIOT.
I have 5 minutes to spare,what the hell.
These complainers insult us, say absolute untruths, and there not unprofessional?
You mean it's always the owners that have to keep this mirage that it doesn't bother us,but they get off the hook.
First off the response was specifically intended for a individual named Logan. Logan was a club hoping raising cane reject pill popping junkie. That never had a car, so obviously he is not talking from his own perspective, and he still lives at home with his mom.(you didn't think I would find out huh..lol)
But I wish nothing but the best,but it's just upsetting when you work with someone,and you have a open door,that they would stomp on your back with crap.
As for you...every loser on here claim to fame is mike barrick,appellate courts, and other previous owners that really never...I mean NEVER made that money.
Mike Garrick was a below average office and was never a regional.
He just didn't make what he say he did. How I know that...because to have the amount of offices he said he has would be ten times that amount.
Just between you and I dumbshit, back in the day they were offering WAY more overrides..
Now the appellate courts is a lower level court.
Monday June 17 2002, the unites states supreme court ruled that anyone has the right to spread there views,sell goods WITHOUT a towns permission.
So buddy boy until the supreme court says anything,were ok.
Also if you read what happened in the appellate case, the court never ruled that the practices were misleading, it was the consignment form wasn't valid due to a chain referral.
You see, you losers have no case.
Your just not going to amount to anything.
Some office(like mine) even donate to our local police department. So if were a scam why do they take our money..
Direct marketing brought in 160 billion dollars last year.
Face it, were here to stay.
Just move on!
You can't scam a broke person. You have nothing to offer us.
Good luck though..lol

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#3 General Comment

SO Unprofessional.

AUTHOR: ScenturaSux - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, January 26, 2012

This is just another example of the level of the unprofessionalism and thuggish nature one can expect to deal with when working as an independent contractor for a Scentura distributor. Who in their right minds would subject themselves to the threat of their employer physically assaulting them? Even a seasoned MMA fighter who can whoop this clown doesnt want to risk getting into a fight in the workplace. Pure stupidity if you ask me. Plus, any Business Owner that
presents that level of hostility toward a complaint online where everyone can see is not a very good business man in my book. As for making thousands while watching Entourage, I call BS on YOU sir!

 As I said before Scenturas PR is a complete and total joke. Aside from Nick Objective Perspective Brunson who is nothing more than the son of a top distributor paid to post his nonsense rebuttals, every owner thats posted here just seems incoherent and angry.  Also, if Scentura really is so great then why does it need 10 different websites to explain themselves?

I really only post here when these so called successful Scentura cult leaders explode like this guy and since he posted one of the worst rebuttals yet, I thought Id give intelligent readers a refresher in how to shut down individual Scentura Offices and other items of interest.

If you have the time, Read all of this, if not, at least check out the court case and the news stories.

I apologize for the formatting I tried to make it neat but this site seems to automatically reformat.  Bottom line though, it gets the point across.

Shutting Offices Down:

Get the false ads removed and freeze their revenues!!!!!

In the most basic terms you have to convince the newspapers and websites that individual offices advertise in to remove their ads. Without their ads they cant recruit new sales people and their revenues will freeze.

This will not take down Scentura in its entirety but it can be very effective for individual distributors, especially those just getting started. Please read the instructions pasted below.

The life-blood of these offices is the classified ads. If their classifieds are no longer allowed in the newspapers the distributor will not be able to place their ads and the pyramid will collapse. They will be forced to close down shop and move to an area where the local papers have yet to catch on. The first thing you have to do is write a letter or email to the newspaper classifieds as well as websites where these ads are placed. Be sure to keep it professional. If you
live in a large metropolitan area this could take a lot of work so be patient and stick with it. Read other newspapers classifieds and search other job sites to find more of these ads and send letters/emails to them.

If the letter doesnt work, send another more stern letter/email. Send multiple letters or emails if you have to. Then send letters to other news sources warning them of the misleading ads. This way they wont be able to advertise elsewhere as a backup plan. Keep it professional if you come off as angry or disgruntled your letter will not be taken seriously!!

Court Case

http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2001/2ndDistrict/September/Html/2000964.htm

News Stories

http://www.9news.com/video/default.aspxbctid=86732794001#/News/Onyx+Wholesale/49906872001/50183015001/86732794001

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nzij9QNYLs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paneyohWtGk

Testimonials of Former Owners

Former Owner Mike Barrick:

I can tell you, from the perspective of someone who ran a distribution center, and had numerous offices beneath me........... everything you would want to know about this "opportunity". I am not a basher and really not all that biased........I just know enough that I now do something else.

Scentura's  real opportunity is for you to learn the direct sales game ( an invaluable lesson btw ), and once you are ready in the eyes of your office manager, Scentura will consign you about $3000 worth of perfume ( which costs
Larry Hahn about $300-$400) so you can start your own business, recruiting and training people to do the same. That's it!! That is the golden opportunity that you have been promised.

You will at that point take all the same risks of any other entrepreneur.......including signing your name on the lease for an office space, spending money on advertising before making a dime, etc...

Can you make money doing this?? Absolutely. I made over $1,000,000 doing exactly what I just described.

Will you learn a lot in the process?? Absolutely!

Here is the problem.....Not many people would warm up to the idea of selling stuff on the street while virtually going broke (more on this later), so the recruiting office owners have to make it sound extremely appealing. If they
described it factually (like I have above), they couldn't recruit enough people to stay afloat. They pitch the opportunity to all the recruits just like the sales people pitch the perfume to people on the streets. This is where the ethical boundary gets crossed. You have to put your own good before the well being of anybody else in order to be successful in this setting. Most that walk through the doors for an interview will never make a dime doing the perfume business, but you (as an office owner) don't make any money telling new recruits the truth. You tell them all that they can do it if they make enough sacrifice, burn bridges with their family and friends who try to talk them out of it (in effect, alienating them from everyone but other people in the perfume business), Put the blinders on taking all focus away from any "Pre
Scentura" values/priorities and they can be successful.

Please understand as you read this.........I was the guy telling you all this.

Everytime I think of that time of my life, I am filled with shame and regret rather than pride. Yes, I was successful in that business but it was at the expense of others. Good people quit working for me (financially they had no choice), and I shunned them. That was what I was taught. Anyone that did Scentura for any period of time know the saying.." The weak fall by the wayside, while the strong survive". The lack of morals is what you can expect from your experience with Scentura Creations. Nobody cares about you.

I learned a lot of things while I did that business but I learned some of my most valuable lessons after leaving the company. Business does NOT come before family. You can't achieve success at the expense of others without it
eventually coming back to bite you in the arse. Most importantly, money is NOT the most important thing. It can make things more comfortable but in the end, your cars, jewelry, houses, etc... don't mean a thing. Things you buy with
money only provide short term happiness which always goes away. The joy I derive from my wife, children, family and friends is long lasting and more important than any of the superficial BS.

Any Scentura owners that stumble upon this post will surely rationalize that I sold out for a low income/non stressful lifestyle but you would only be half right. The businesses I am now involved in make me the kind of income I only
experienced during seldom "highs" with Scentura, while only requiring 25-30 hours a week. More importantly, the people that work for me make good money and can believe what I tell them.

Hope this helps some of you understand what it is you are contemplating.

Good Luck to all. 

  Former Owner Ian Zeaman:

I was involved with this "business" for seven years beginning right after college graduation. I'm embarrassed that I did it for so long, but I was hooked and kept at it thinking surely I would start making good money after all of this time and effort. Don't get me wrong, there were good times and bad times, but after all of it, including being a "regional
manager" with seven offices beneath me, I left with $507 in my pocket.

Luckily I didn't have any debt and it didn't take long to bounce back. I'm not writing this to tell my story, just to give the straight story for those of you considering this "opportunity". Here are a few things anyone should fully understand before "taking advantage of this opportunity":

1. Understand that you are not being hired and you will never receive a paycheck. On your first day you will fill out an "independent contractor agreement". They will explain this to you in a creative way, glossing over the details. What it means is this: the only way you make money in "the training program" is commission from the bottles you sell. They have told you this in a creative way, but most new "trainees" do not realize this until their 3rd or 4th day. By that time you've been in so many arguments with your friends and family about this business that you don't want to quit due to your pride. (It's better to get out now if you didn't realize this).

Remember they told you that there are different phases to the training program: marketing, training, management, admin? This way it doesn't sound like you'll be selling on the streets during the entire training. You will, and this is the
only way you'll make money during the training program.

Also, since you are not an employee of the "distribution center" or Scentura Creations, you're on your own as far as solicitor's licenses, taxes, and liability. They will tell you that you don't need a license. Call your commissioner of revenue's office, I'll bet they say differently. If you read the fine print in the paperwork they'll have you sign (consignment agreement, independent contractor's agreement) you'll see that all of this is stated there.

Once you progress through training and you get toward the end they'll have you "stay in the office for the day". This will seem like a real treat.

They'll have you answer phones and interview people just like you were interviewed, and at the end of the day you've made no money because you weren't out on the street selling bottles. Most offices do not hire a receptionist, they just get free labor from the people in the training program.

2. They have mentioned "running a satellite office" or "going on a satellite" or "going on a road trip" or "fun car".
Here's what this entails: 3 to 6 of the people in the training program will load up their car(s) with cases of perfume and drive to an area 2-4 hours away.

Your "leader" will tell everyone where to work and you will work until dinner, try to score a free pizza from somewhere, then work until midnight or so selling in parking lots, etc. You will then drive around until you can find the cheapest hotel (if you're lucky and you don't just sleep in the car) and all pile in, turn in the money for your sales, split the cost of
the room, and try to get a couple of hours of sleep. Oh, if there are females and males you'll still all be together. Hopefully you're not with a couple hooking up.

In the morning you may or may not go to breakfast (depending on if anyone made any money the day before) and you'll hit the streets again. This will go on for however many days were designated unless you run totally out of money and have to return.

***If nothing else understand this: If you drive you may or may not get reimbursed for gas. It will depend on how much was sold while you are away. You are not an employee, you're an independent contractor therefore you have no
legal recourse. Also, if you "lend" money to someone with you who didn't sell enough to eat understand that you will never see that money again.

That person will return owing a lot of money to the people who did sell on the trip and will quit when they return because in addition to this debt they also have no money for their personal bills.

3. However they have creatively explained you will get your office, and specifically the money for your office, understand this: You will receive 125 bottles (more or less, the amount changes but the principle does not) which you (and possibly a partner) will need to sell and turn in ALL OF THE MONEY for (meaning no commission during that time) in order to pay for your office start up. You see, when they say they will give you all of the money they mean they will give you bottles to sell and you get to use that money to open your office.

If you complete this task you will personally sign a lease (most likely a sub-lease from a former "owner" who failed/ quit, etc.). You are now personally totally liable for the full term of this lease whether you are in business here selling Scentura Creations perfumes or not. You will also sign a consignment agreement with Scentura stating (among other things) that you are simply a consignee, not an employee. That Scentura is not liable for any of your actions. That the perfumes are fakes and you will not say they are not fakes.

You get the drift I hope.

You will also need to obtain a business license. They will explain to you how to creatively explain to the commissioner of revenue in your town what type of business you're involved in. Believe me if you say that you'll be selling renditions of designer fragrances through independent contractors you will not get a business license. You'll say that you are a "wholesaler of consumer products to businesses". If they don't ask many more questions you'll get your license.

Scentura Creations will send you your "opening order". This used to be 300 bottles, but the amount may have changed. You will be required to send a payment weekly by cashier's check to Scentura for whatever bottles were sold the week before. This is indeed a good deal. You only pay for what was sold out of your distribution center.

It gets tricky when you don't sell much, though, because they won't send you any more merchandise. I'm not sure what the minimum is now but it used to be 125 bottles/ week. If a distribution center sold less than 125 bottles / week
for two weeks in a row Scentura told the "promoting owner" to go pick up all of the merchandise and "retrain" the owners. If you quit at this point you are still personally liable for the office lease, any bills incurred (newspaper ads, electric bill, phone bill, etc.).

Now they'll teach you how to run creative ads for "your sales staff".  Guess what? There is no sales staff. You will now be recruiting people for the "Scentura Opportunity" just like you were recruited. You now get to run interviews where you creatively explain to people how to get their own office. You get to send them out to FFAAR, satellites, etc.
You will collect money from the people in YOUR training program for the bottles they have sold. You will first take out Scentura's part (used to be $9.00 per bottle, I think it's $10.00 now). You'll get a cashier's check and send that
off overnight to Scentura.

Now you'll pay whatever bills were incurred in this order of priority: Newspaper ads (have to get people in to sell for you). Telephone (can't get them in without answering the phone). Rent. Misc. If there is any money left (doubtful) you can pay yourself, but they will tell you not to, you'd better keep it for future bills. You obviously learned how to sell in training, and in the beginning guess who is training your people and leading satellites from your office? YOU! This will be your income during the first few months of running your own office. You now understand why your promoting owner (or his or her "right hand") still goes out in the field. They told you they really like it or that they like to train their own people. The truth is they're trying to keep their car. Unless you're in a unique situation with one of the top 5 offices who indeed are making money. 

That's a whole story of its own. If this is the case then ask how long their "promotions" have been in business. If the office that is trying to recruit you has been there for 5+ years, why don't they have offices they've trained who have been around that long? What happened to the offices they opened 5 years ago?

I hope I have lent some insight into what this "business" really is. So many people get sucked in with mistaken ideas of what they will be doing. I am simply trying to help people who do not wish to sell on the streets and work for straight commission to avoid this. I know this because I was the spin-master for a long time. I did make good money when I went on satellites; I could sell this perfume better than most. I can't believe now where I would go to sell it, though. Parts of town where now I wouldn't get out of the car, let alone hang out in the parking lots and try to sell fake perfume for commission!

If you're doubtful on what I have written please print it off and show it to your "branch manager" or whatever they call themselves these days.

They will probably tell you that I must be a "weak piece of s***" "blowout" or whatever else they say now when someone leaves the business. Seven years of this I think I really gave "my opportunity a chance". Also, call the commissioner of revenue and ask what kind of business the office you're interviewing with is. Call the better business
bureau. Oh, best yet, call Scentura and ask them about THEIR office in your town. Ask what their business agreement is with them. Then call the newspaper who printed the ad you answered and explain to them what this company is really
recruiting (not hiring) for.

The last straw for me was a meeting where my partner and I, who were barely paying our bills, were at a national meeting and sitting at the head table with Larry. He stated that all of the people at the front table were making at least
$150,000 per year. I didn't make that much in 7 years, let alone one! It made me wonder how many of the others at the front table were just like us, faking it until we make it. At that same meeting Larry held an "owner's breakfast" before the big "rah-rah rally" In the "owner's only breakfast" he said "this is the only legal pyramid in America". In the rally, about an hour later he stated "this is not a pyramid". Hmmmm.

I couldn't consciously keep scamming people week after week. Some would quit a good job to start this thinking they would make at least $30,000/ year when I in reality knew that only 1 in about 200 would even open their own office, and few would make a profit once they opened. Each week we would have 20-50 people start, and be down to 3-10 by the following week. 

I hope by writing this I can redeem some of the harm I caused in the people who I recruited who went bankrupt, got divorced, lost their homes, neglected their children, etc.

God Bless and Good Luck to all of you. 

Anonymous Former Owner

"I was a former Regional Manager for Scentura Creations back in 1995 to 1996. I believe I am in a position to reveal more information than anybody else here. For those of you who don't understand what a Regional Manager is, I will explain. The first level is Branch Office. This is the first level you achieve after training. The next level is Distribution Center. A DC works where you had your interview. A DC works monitoring the Branch Office. The next level is Regional Office. RO's are similar to DC's. RO's monitor the DC's and all of their Branch Offices. The final level is Division Manager, the very top.

I rose from the ranks as a Branch Office to DC, than onto RO after promoting others to DC.

Now to begin: Yes, we opened new offices all the time. The real question is, can you survive the time it takes to get to that first level on pretty much ZERO income?

Anybody here telling you they made money during the Training Phase is full of it. I was there longer than most people. I oversaw many offices and had 1000's of people coming through my own. Most people who defend Scentura have not been in the system long enough to know the real deal, and are still in the brainwashing phase.

While the fact that new offices are always opening is true, the entire process involved is a lie. Ads are published that clearly state SALARY. During interviews, new hires are led to believe stories about SALARIES and BENEFITS.
This is also false. Why not tell the truth from the very beginning? Because nobody would stay, period! This is why people are mislead from the beginning.

It is the only way to keep people coming back. Next, we are taught to lie. Taught to lie about how much money we were making, the cars we drove, the homes we owned. The truth was, as office owners, we were all broke.

Now, for anyone who wants to fire back that I was a Weak Piece of s**t, a Blow Out, etc., I made it one hell of a lot further than you, and I was familiar with many, many offices... and all were struggling financially. All of them.
Everyday, I watched people (good people) lose everything. Especially during training. Once, I had a Husband and Wife team in our program. They showed up one day in a U-HAUL truck with everything they owned in it, and also had two
small children with them and no place to go because they believed that much in the 'opportunity'. They had lost their home.

My Regional Manager was robbed at gunpoint by a former employee. If I hadn't left minutes earlier, I too could have been a victim. He was later robbed again by another employee at his home. his children were taken hostage, and his wife shot. This news story can be found online to prove I'm not kidding. It happened in the town of Cockeysville, MD in 1996.

(Google 'The Baltimore Sun August 7 1996 Senna Dent Robbery)

The bottom line is this: YES, we opened new offices, but this doesn't mean success. Many times we were forced to buy additional bottles from the company just to keep our numbers up. So much for profit. One person here has stated the company has been around for 35 years. While this is true, I find it amazing that new offices are continually being opened. One would think that if the 'opportunity' was so good, relatively permanent offices would be established already with very little room for new growth. 

How is it a company 35 years old has nothing but new offices? And where are all the people that should have been around 35, 25, 20, etc. years? There aren't any! They don't exist. Only a handful of Division Managers at the top, and
Larry Hahn himself, have been around that long.

A few years ago, I had a girlfriend who got mixed up with Scentura. This created many fights between us, because they had done a thorough job brainwashing her already, and wouldn't listen to me. She stated how her 21 year old manger already owned expensive cars, lived in a 6000 sq ft home, blah, blah, blah. I went over to his office and called him on it.
Turned out he was living in an apartment with his parents and driving a 13 year old Ford Explorer (also owned by his folks).

Another person on this forum has stated they made $86,000 in their first year. Yeah, well, I call that a bunch of BS.
It is all lies. Even I propagated those lies, because I was taught that lying was the way to success, when in fact, it's a sure fire way to financial ruin, death threats, and even becoming the victim of armed robbery.

When all you do is piss people off with your lies, some of them will come back for you. I guarantee it. Working for this company means you have to live your life in hiding. Hiding from people, hiding from the Police, the Labor Board, the Courts, the Local Media, etc...

Can you make it in this business? Oh, yes you can! But you have to be a person with no soul, period. You have to be a person who can continually lie, and not be bothered by it. You have to be the kind of person who doesn't mind watching
others ruin themselves so you can succeed.

If you can do all that, Scentura Creations is the perfect 'opportunity' for you. Personally, it was the biggest mistake of my life. After 15 years, I am still bothered by some of the things that happened and have to live with.

In conclusion with a final comment: The person who stated they made $86,000 has also stated they've gone on many
company trips. First, let me make it perfectly clear the company doesn't pay anyone to go on those trips. The company sets up conferences, and anybody who wants to attend is required to pay their own way. Anybody who tells you
otherwise is lieing.

I attended many of those conferences myself, and had to pay my own airfare and hotel just like all the other 1000's of people who were also there, so you can't call it a 'company trip'. Regardless of your performance, Scentura will
never reward you with anything for free.

Like me, everyone on this forum who manically defends Scentura Creations at this point, will one day soon either disappear or return, like me, to warn others against it.

When the brainwashing is over, and the reality starts, they will ALL change their tune." 

Simple Comparisons

Business practices of a normal company vs. a Scentura distributor. Most companies provide employees with a full
benefits package including medical, dental, vision, 401k and Paid-Time Off upon hire. Scentura provides none.
Most companies pay employees for every single hour they put in, plus time and a half for any hours over 40 in a week, plus bonuses for bringing in new business, plus mileage for the driving they do in the field, plus any and all business
related expenses they incur on the job. Scentura pay only commission and reimburses nothing. 

Most companies advertise for sales people when looking for sales people. Scentura falsely advertises an extremely risky business opportunity as a Management or Receptionist job. 

Most companies hire people with experience in their respective fields. Scentura hires anyone off the street that can be easily brainwashed, knows nothing about the business world or is just plain greedy.

Most companies run background checks at no charge to any prospective employees. Scentura makes everyone pay for
a background check that they most likely never conduct. Most companies have a customer based website, an
established customer base and provide all employees (even non-sales staff) with Business Cards which is standard in almost every industry these days. Scentura has none of these things.

Its still your choice though, you can sell fake perfume in parking lots with no benefits or sales permits and later run your own operation getting people to do the same thing by recruiting them through deceptive advertising and encouraging
them to become alienated from their family and friends and base your entire life around Scentura.

Or You can do it the right way by proving yourself to a company that pays you for The hours you work, offers benefits and doesn't lie to and deceive it's employees.

Later you can work your way up and move on to a better job at another company steadily learning new skills and going home satisfied after an honest days work.

Peace Out Readers

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TIGHT SLACKS-BIG BALLS

AUTHOR: All smiles - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 25, 2012

The fact that this loser wrote the complaint at 3 in the morning means there completely jobless. While your piece of s**t a*s was writing a complaint, I was relaxing at home watching entourage Making thousands. I actually just came from Vegas the time you wrote the complaint. I was buying dolce and gabbana, John varvatos, ferregamo shoes and slacks. You know... Nut huggers... I have been upfront from day one with every person that encounters my business. I have never been afraid of anything nor no one. You know where to find me. You have an issue. You know how to contact me. No problem with gay people,but if you think I'm gay. Why don't you come to the office and see if I jump. Artificial insemination......at least we have the money for it, which is something I can't say for you. I love my life. I do right by people. But sometimes you encounter slithering garbage like you. That never have the courage to say how they feel in front of our faces. That think just because we own a business, that we won't step in front of our desk. I fired someone a while back that called me a b***h..... I stepped away from my desk and beat the crap out of him. Long story short and 1000 dollars later(due to a battery charge fines,plus I didn't want to draw it out). I agree it was not the smartest thing. For crying out loud I have to protect myself. I have major assets and I'm a target. But....,the look on his face was all worth it. I'll do it all over again,because some people just need to be put in there place. Hey...I have the money to pay. Good luck to you. Hopefully you realize the small amount of time you were there, didn't change my lifestyle. Still got nuthuggers

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An Objective Perspective

AUTHOR: PublicRelations - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Unfortunately,
it seems theres a lot of negativity and false information circulating the
internet regarding Scentura, and I think its based mostly on peoples
misunderstanding of the Scentura Opportunity. I thought Id post something
brief that would help make things clear.



First of all, Scentura Creations is a manufacturer
and supplier of rendition fragrances. They distribute their product line to
Independent Wholesale Business owners throughout the U.S. Theyre unique in
that they provide merchandise without any capital outlay to these Independent
Wholesale Distributors, meaning they dont pay Scentura until after theyve
sold the merchandise. This is key because it removes a huge barrier of entry
into business Inventory costs.



Second, the sales model used by most independent
businesses that sell Scenturas products is that of Direct Selling. Its a
business to business, face-to-face sales strategy that has worked for over 35
years. Its not glamorous, and its probably not for everyone, but it just
works.



Last, and most importantly, Scentura doesn't ask
you to invest any money, it's not a franchise, it's not a pyramid or
multi-level marketing business, there's nothing to purchase, there are no
sign-up fees. The only thing required from you is your time and hard work, and
youll get a chance to run your own business. How many companies out there are
willing to offer that?



It probably sounds too good to be true, but it
makes sense when you understand Scentura's incentive: It's a Win-Win scenario
for everyone. You get a chance to own your own business, and Scentura gains a
new customer, which means more volume. If Scentura only dealt with individuals
who had hundreds of thousands of dollars to invest, they'd be waiting a long
time, especially in this economy. So they're willing to take all the financial
risk.



Again, this is not for everyone, but the
opportunity is definitely real, and many owners have gone on to make six-figure
incomes running their own businesses that sell Scentura's products.



Please visit the following website dedicated to
new business owners that answered the ad and started just like everyone else: www.RookieOwners.com



If youd like to read more about Scentura
Creations, please visit the following sites:


Larry-Hahn.com
A Story about Larry Hahn and how he started
Scentura Creations.


LarryHahn.ScenturaCreations.com
Learn more about Larry Hahn, Scentura Creations
founder.



LettersToLarryHahn.com
Letters to Larry from those who have found success
with the Scentura Creations opportunity.



ObserveLessence.com
Product reviews for Scentura Creations' product
line.



RookieOwners.com
A site dedicated to newly opened independent
businesses that sell Observe' L'Essence products.



ScenturaCreationsResources.com
Links to more websites about Scentura Creations.



ScenturaCreationsScam.com
An objective look at Scentura Creations.



ScenturaCreationsSuccess.com
Stories from those who have taken full advantage
of the Scentura Creations opportunity.



TruthAboutScenturaCreations.com
Shedding light on the truth behind the lies.



UnderstandingScenturaCreations.com
A guide to understanding Scentura Creations'
winning formula for success.



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If you have any further complaints, please direct them
to pr@scenturacreations.com



Thank you.

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