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Complaint Review: Stafford Business Solutions - Cydcor - Nationwide

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  • Stafford Business Solutions - Cydcor 1100 East Hector Street, Suite 320 Conshohocken, PA 19428 Nationwide U.S.A.

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Recently, I submitted my resume to Stafford Business Solutions (SBS) in response to a Monster.com job listing. The listing was really vague, but I figured since I was looking for a job it would be wise to apply to everything that would be even remotely related to the field that I am most experienced in, Marketing.

I got a phone call from Stafford Business Solutions the day after submitting my resume. I was told that the President of the company had hand-picked my resume from a stack of 300 resumes and that the person calling me was instructed to contact me for an interview immediately. The person on the phone spoke quickly and not very clearly. I asked what the position was that I would be applying for, but was told that I was being considered for multiple positions and that it would be best to come in and meet with the hiring manager. Since I was looking for a job, I figured that it could not hurt to check this company out.

When I got to SBS there were a lot of other people in the lobby and from the office part, which I could not see, there was a lot of cheering and yelling. The managers of the place (the President of that particular office and the Assistant Manager) kept coming into the lobby saying hello and trying to act like we were all great friends. At one point, the President came into the lobby and said something like "Has anyone here read anything negative about SBS?" No one said that they had so the President continued by saying "Well if you did, just ignore them, this business was confused for another bad business but we aren't that business so just ignore whatever you find on the web Really, no one heard anything bad?"

After waiting for 30 minutes I was brought into the President's office for my interview. I was asked only a few questions, but still was not told anything about the position I was interviewing for except that SBS was looking for quality people that could excel to Management quickly. After my interview was completed I was told that they liked me and wanted me to come in the next day for an all day interview. I was then escorted out quickly so there would be no time for questions. Again, since I was looking for a job I decided to come back the next day with the hopes that I would get more information.

So I showed up for the second interview and found that only about four people from the day before were there. We were getting paired off and I saw these people leave. I was then taken into a small room and introduced to a man named Cory. I was told that this man would be the person who would do my all-day interview. Cory was dressed in an obviously cheap suit and a dress shirt that had ink stains on it. I was told to follow Cory so I did. Not knowing what in the world was going to happen, but assuming that we were staying in the office, I walked out of the room that I met Cory in and headed toward the main office area. I was corrected and told that we were not going into the main office. SBS is located in a business park, so I figured that the main office was maybe a smaller meet and greet type of office and that I would be led to a bigger office within the business park. However, we kept walking and walking and eventually went outside. We walked to Cory's car, which happened to be old and beat up.

I tried to find out where we were going, but was told that it would be best to keep my questions until lunch time. So I got in the car assuming that we were going to a headquarters or office in the city as I, at that point, was told that the position would be for Corporate Business to Business sales. Before starting our journey, Cory needed to stop and buy gas for is car. When we parked at the gas pump, I saw Cory take out his wallet and noticed that Cory was worried about not having money to put gas in his tank. With further inspection, Corey had only about ten dollars in his wallet and could only afford to get two gallons of gasoline in his car even though I would find out that we had a long journey ahead and saw that he was going on empty. Nonetheless, we continued onward and I figured that we would have appointments with various managers at multiple high level businesses. We kept driving and driving and eventually made it to an exit for Chester. For those of you not in Philadelphia, Chester is known as the most dangerous suburb of Philadelphia. I could not believe that I let someone lead me to Chester, Pennsylvania! Regardless, I tried to stay positive (since I was stuck there) and see what was in store for the day.

We got out of Cory's car and walked into this run-down diner. I had no idea why we were there and concluded that we were going to grab a quick cup of coffee before starting our day. Wrong. Cory and I walked in and Cory asked to speak to the person in charge of the phone bill. The owner came to us and Cory asked to see his Verizon bill. Before that, I had no idea that we were representing Verizon. Anyway, Cory told the owner that Verizon had changed its rates and were sending Account Managers to various businesses to make sure they were being charged appropriately. Cory determined that the business owner was paying too much and wanted to make changes to his Verizon account. The business owner was skeptical and said "No thank you", but Cory was persistent and kept trying to get the business owner to change his mind. I was so embarrassed and knew it was past time for us to leave and even more humiliated realizing that we were essentially bum rushing this business as we had no appointment. Walking into the next run-down business, I realized our whole day would be like this.

Eventually, lunch time came around. In my past professional experience, anytime that a lunch or dinner was required, I have only gone to nice restaurants that are at a minimum level of an Applebee's or Ruby Tuesday. In fact, for all lunches and dinners that I have been involved in while recruiting, the restaurant was always much nicer than an Applebee's or Ruby Tuesday. Not for SBS though. Nope, we went to a McDonald's and I had to pay for my own meal! This may seem like a silly point, but I believe this shows a lack of quality in a company and a lack of professionalism.

While at lunch, I made it a point to pick Cory's brain thoroughly. He told me that SBS was a subsidiary of a company called Cydcor. I was told that I would make a base salary of $20,000 a year and that for the first four weeks I would make in addition to my base salary roughly $200-400 a week in addition to my base salary, this level was entry-level. After four weeks I would go to the next level called Leadership and would make $600-800 in addition to my base salary for a period of 10-12 weeks. After that I would become an Assistant Manager and would make $10,000-$12,000 a week in addition to my base salary. I was told the Assistant Manager level would be in affect for 6-8 months. After all that, I would get my own office with my own campaign and would move to the Manager/President level. I was told at that level my base pay would be $90,000 a year plus commission. I wondered why Cory had such a crummy car, a cheap beat-up suit, and worries about paying for gasoline if he was bringing in all this money. This sounded too good to be true.

Cory also talked about the non-importance of a college education and talked about how the President discouraged him from going back to college. Now, I am not trying to imply that non-college graduates are stupid or lacking, but I do question a company that frowns upon higher education. Cory talked about spending all his time with his co-workers and how he could not talk to his friends or family anymore because they could not understand him or his job. Moreover, he gave me more insight to the noise I heard when I first came into the office. The noise is all the employees role-playing at the beginning of their day and then giving each other pep talks. He called this 'atmosphere'. He also told me about a bell ceremony that occurs at the end of each day. There supposedly are different sized bells and the level of money you made that day indicates what size bell you would ring at the end of the day. It just sounded like a lot of mumbo jumbo to me.

After lunch we went back to the door-to-door routine and eventually got to go back to the office. While going to the various businesses, Cory would tell these business owners that he worked directly for Verizon, could make all sorts of changes to their accounts, could check on complaints with the phone, etc. When we got back into the car I asked Cory if he could really do all those things he promised and he told me "no, but that he [I] does whatever it takes to get out the door". As the afternoon passed we walked to more run-down businesses where we were obviously not welcome (really, there were people yelling at us to get out of their businesses and Cory was not leaving). We did not get back until about 5:45 PM. By that time, I was exhausted, my feet hurt because no one told me that I would be walking all over Satan's backyard (I would not have worn the heels that I had chosen the night before, but would have chosen more reasonable flats if I would have known we would be walking all day), I was hungry since it had been hours since we ate, and I still did not know too much about SBS.

Once we got to the office I was handed a one page questionnaire as to why SBS should offer me a position. Cory disappeared and talked to the President about our day and his impressions of me. I was then led into the President's office where I was offered a position with SBS. The President asked me when I could start. I told her that I would like a week to consider the position. She obviously did not like this and asked me why I would need a week to consider. I had told her that every job I have had in the past the hiring manager would encourage me to take, at a minimum, a day or weekend to consider the offer. The President continued with an obviously ticked off tone and said "Okay, so let's say you take the job, when can you start?" I told her that I would like a week to tie up lose ends. She then looked at me with a grimace on her face and said "Why would you need a week?" I found it so absurd that she was asking me such a personal question that I responded by saying "What do you mean why do I need a week?" to which she said, "I just don't understand why you would need a week to start a job". Then she repeated the question. I told her that I was not sure exactly what needed to be done, but that I would like a week before starting, IF I even chose to take that position. To that, again in a crappy tone, she said "Well, why don't you just call me Tuesday and let me know what you are doing" (this was the Thursday before the Memorial Day holiday.

Still trying to be professional and polite, even though this company had obviously robbed me of a whole day, I told her I would call with my decision on Tuesday and thanked her for her time. She then insisted on having Cory walk me out of the office and out of the business park. Once outside, Cory gave me his number to call in case I had further questions.

I did not know what the heck had just happened to my whole day or why I got into a car with a complete stranger, but I did. After getting home and having time to decompress, I did research on the internet only to come across rip-off report.com only to read various other stories similar to my experience and past Cydcor employees' experiences working at that company. If you get a call from a 'Marketing Organization' offering entry-level positions, it is probably too good to be true.

J.b.
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

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All of this is completely accurate!

AUTHOR: Asugrad08 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, August 17, 2009

Sara Stafford enjoys screwing people over. Her company is now under the name Enterprise Solutions Firm... and she claims to not have any ties to Stafford Business Solutions or Forward Business Concepts. Do not believe a word that comes out of this woman's mouth she is a liar!

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#5 Consumer Comment

Sales training can be valuable

AUTHOR: Socal Smooth - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 31, 2008

It pains me to give any positive comments about Cydcor.

But the sales techniques they teach will work in other settings. The problems are these techniques do not make money in this work setting. You're trying to sell a little bit of office supplies or whatever. It probably is better to focus on bigger sales jobs, such as car sales or corporate sales.

If you treat it like a sales training and have 2-3 weeks to spare, then give it a shot. Wow, I must be crazy to say something about this deplorable organization. But it is the truth.

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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

While everything they say here is true, i do want to say this...

AUTHOR: Doc Brown - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 10, 2008

I want to say up front that all this information is true. I was an employee of Sarah Stafford, and her partner Jim in early 2006, back when they worked out of the Cherry Hill, NJ area.

There are some serious scam like activities that go along at this place. The most important are as follows:

You are asked to work 13 hour days on all commision
You are not refunded or compensated for gas expenses, or any expenses. There were days i was driving up to 4 hours a day, and filling up my tank every other day.
You are required to attend after work bonding activities. I'll repeat...required to attend here.
Promotion is based on you keeping other people employed at the company. Once you get people hired, and they work under you as a "leader", you can become assistant manager. On average when i was there, 5 people were hired and 5 people quit every week.

The long and short of it is this...this job will not make you money. Period.

HOWEVER, and really making this point is why i bothered to type all this:

The sales training and methods i learned here are the reason i'm a 26 year old making a 6 figure income. I'm being very serious. The sales techniques you learn there are invaluable. Once i left ths company i got into an industry where using those techniques allowed me to make an income hand over fist. It was baffeling to me how well their methods worked. More so, i haven't been inside of a company that offered training this good...or even 1/8th that good. The "brainwashing" refered to in this article what i'm refering to.

My point is this...If your unemployed and have the flexibility to work a couple weeks without any income...this isn't a bad place to get some sales training that you can use the rest of your career. Jim and Sarah are decent people despite the fact they constantly bend the truth to try and get you to stay with their organization and bring them in money the next day. Plus, i genually enjoyed my tenure there, though it was only 6 weeks.

So, don't go here if you are looking for an interview, go there if you are looking for sales training.

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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

You're lucky!

AUTHOR: Frustrated Ex-bsier - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, September 08, 2008

I worked for the office who "promoted out" Sara Stafford's office. At least during your 2nd Interview they mentioned Cydcor to you so you had a chance to look it up! When I worked for BSI in Boston, we were told to NEVER mention Cydcor to the people we interviewed... EVER. Once I started thinking things seemed suspicious, I started asking questions (this was after working there for a few weeks) and I found out about Cydcor...
Why it took me so long to realize that it was such BS I don't know, but you're lucky that you were only robbed of one day. I was robbed of months. There HAS to be a way to stop cycor.

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#2 Consumer Suggestion

Couldn't agree more

AUTHOR: Skip - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, July 08, 2008

The same thing happened to me years ago in Clarkston, MI. (many many year ago, like 2001)

We drove all the way down to frick'n 6 mile and sold useless crap to people of color.


When I told him this a joke of a job(1 hour into parking), he tried threatening me saying he WOULDN'T give a good review to whom ever was in charge that day. (their boss for that location)

you forgot to add that they made you sign a form saying you won't be paid for the day.


But, almost the exact same story happened to me. Going to McDonald's and everything. Also, I think my friend is also working for a Cydcor, or some cousin company of them, and I will get some information from him on it.

The 2 scrubs that drove me down to DEtroit were talking the company up the whole way down, and saying they are going to be opening their own store/shop/sales of useless junk place "Pretty Soon", after the put a few months in of pounding the pavement.


And now that I read all these very similar reports from all these different people, it makes me wonder about my good friend that moved to Minnesota, like out of the blue, for the company he is working for (Cydcor I think). He was talking all about recruiting a "Team" like his 1st couple of weeks after he was promoted after 1 week. He likes his job though. He wasn't making any money for a while either.

Very Very Strange things going on here people.


All I am trying to do is get a legit job while I finish getting my Degree.


WEIRD STUFF. Thank you so much for sharing what happened to you. You and I and anyone else that has been through it knows a terrible day like that will never happen to us again.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sara Stafford is a joke!

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, June 14, 2008

Everything you read is true - but there is one benefit for working at "SBS" .... you can sleep with the boss! I did just last wk before i quit.... cool how you keep in touch with others and find out it seems to be a pretty frequent activity for Sara.

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