Swinguard Custom Knife Sales - Brad Skipper - Susan Skipper ripoff, Took my check, cashed check, did not send merchandise, won't answer phone, e-mail, etc Raleigh North Carolina

Regarding my origninal post concerning swinguard, horizon ED or nick. It appears this may have been premature. I recieved an email from Ed from englishtown, that claimed his name had been used to make a complaint against singuard. I assumed it was legit,On further inspection it may not have been,and probably wasnt. Concerning Nick and the various websites he has,I know nothing of..personally. This was a blatant,irresponsible post on my part, and I have had no expeirance with nick from horizonod or any dealings with him at all. Ive had dealings with brad skipper but not Nick. I wish to apologize to nick and ED from englishtown,as I was duped into beleving things That are not true. .While I feel the damage cannot be undone, I hope and pray that what I typed has no lasting effects. neither brad skipper of swinguard..or nick of horizonod has done any harm to me,or my pocket book. It appears that one has done the other wrong. Too my knowledge Nick isnt a crook. If a person can be more ashamed,I cant think of one,that has,except myself. Regards,perry

This is NO BOGUS REPORT. Ironworker is a liar for Brad Skipper and is aperently under Brads spell and is willing to lie on Brads behalf without knowing ANYTHING about what he is stating. Someday he will realize he has been had as so many other EX-swinguard members have. Let's hope he remembers the lies he was told to tell and comes back to tell everybody the truth.

Ed contacted some people about this rip off prior to posting it. He PRE PAID then never got his order from Brad Skipper. NEVER PREPAY A SKIPPER!!!!!!

Ed from maxxknives dot com is legitimate with a legitimate beef. Ironworker is a liar for hire.

Oh. If Swinguard forum has over 400 members I'll kiss your petunia. Most members have left. The few that are left have multiple IDS to make it look more like a bigger forum and give it some credability. Another one of Brads smoke and mirrors tricks to make him look bigger than he is.

I'll bet he told Ironworker and AL from Baltimore just what to say like the puppetmaster he is.

If you guys want Brads arm up your backside that's your own business but watch out who you tell lies about and who you tell them FOR.

Open your eyes and seek the truth. You are being had and manipulated like many others. Wake up.

By the way "ironworker". I know Ed. He had this problem for a long time and talked to alot of people about it before he came here and posted it. Actually that is how we met.

I stongly doubt he, or anybody, would have complained to so many people for a month about a non exostent problem.

You, by taking Brads word that anybody who dare speak negatively about him is wrong, have lied about what you CLAIM to KNOW.

You have lied on Brads behalf. Congratulations.

Why don't you let the lying coward tell his own lies instead of duping the less intelligent to do his bidding for him??

Swinguard members should read this and apply some common sense to what they believe.

Brad Skipper has his OWN FORUM and uses it to convince any poor "fly" that happens along that he is the greatest thing that has ever happened to the knife community. He claims all sorts of miraculous feats and uses his silver tongue and unparalleled ability to make a lie sound convincing to lull these almost cultlike members into total and complete trust in him.

Brad will NEVER allow anyone to post anything on his forum that is in the slightest watt critical of him or his operation. There have been dozens and dozens of complaints that are either deleted by Brad or shouted down by his adoring minions. It really is something to behold. These people are like moths to a flame and Brad skipper adept skills at lying, making barely plausible excuses, sidestepping the truth or having one of his minions take the blame is breathtaking to watch from the outside.

Besides censoring any threads that don't heap worship upon him he makes up the most unbelievable excuses whenever he makes promises he can't keep or has taken prepayments on items and can't supply them. It's hilarious to the outside world (which Brad keeps at arms length) to hear these incredible tales of woe and miraculous recovery.

In the past several months Brad has been at deaths doorstep at least a half a dozen times then once all of the criticism dies down he makes these uncannily miraculous and timely recoveries and is right back at cultivating his worshiping followers. It REALLY is like a cult.

Brad rarely ever ventures out to other forums because real people with real brains can ask real questions that he can't really answer. That's bad for his PR so he shrinks back into his own forum where he rules what is believed by what HE ALLOWS to be SAID along with some of his staunchly devoted, although terrible misguided, minions that hang on his every word despite the fact that his words and his actions always contradict each other.

Brads best and most profitable lie is that he does all he does for LOVE OF KNIVES and NOT A PROFIT yet he is constantly setting up dealers under him and lying to them about what he pays for product so they think he is just about giving things away. If they only knew that "few dollars" they allow Brad to make per knife he sells them was considerably more.

Contrary to Brads fabulous story that Nick from Horizon wanted to buy him out and Brads refusal is what spawned the feud between them

WHAT REALLY STARTED IT WAS BRADS LYING TO NICK, at that time Brads largest buyer, ABOUT PRICES and Brad trying to short Nick on orders and not delivering orders that had already been paid for.


Brad had tried to short Nick knives and keep Nicks money (something he does allot so there is backup to this allegation from others). When Nick found this out Brad started spreading lies that Nick was the one that owed Brad money and had stolen knives. This is a tactic Brad uses often that his followers should recognize. Brad will get caught lying then take THAT EXACT LIE AND SIMPLY CHANGE THE NAMES TO MAKE HIM THE VICTIM BEFORE THE TRUTH GETS OUT. It's classic. Get the lie out BEFORE the truth and the lie has more of a chance of being believed by some. Brad has based his entire internet existence on that and it's working like a charm. His loyal minions lap it up like so much mothers milk. Don't forget that on HIS FORUM the truth is NEVER EVEN ALLOWED TO BE UTTERED so it gives his lies even more legs.

Brad has claimed that Nick wanted to "take over" his business and that Nick was trying to "TAKE OVER THE KNIFE BUSINESS ON THE INTERNET".

#1. Nick was here LOOOOOOONG before Brad Skipper ever came on the scene and has a much bigger business in which Italian knives are only a small part and Nick still sells more Italians than Brad Skipper does. What possible sense would it make for Nick to even want Brads business. It doesn't even make sense but Brads loyal cult not ONLY believe it but they spread the lies for Brad.

#2. If somebody had designs to TAKE OVER THE KNIFE BUSINESS would they be low key like Nick who doesn't advertise on any forums and never has, doesn't sell on auctions, doesn't HAVE his own auction (As Brad does), Doesn't have his own forum to recruit buyers and dealers and market the item, doesn't recruit people to go forth on the internet and create as many sites as possible using the free site services all touting Brad Skipper and Swinguard knife sales along with the Swinguard forums and auctions and spin-off dealer sites.

Nick doesn't do ANY of this stuff. He has belonged to several forums. Some since 1997. Yet most forum members don't even know he is a dealer.

Brad Skipper, on the other hand, has tried everything to take over the knife business. He has a need to be worshiped so he convinces his followers that he does all of this for them yet HE IS THE ONE PROFITING FROM THE SALE OF EVERY KNIFE THAT IS PURCHASED THROUGH HIM. He has his forum, his auction, several other sites made by his cult that point links to swinguard, he sets dealers up left and right and tells them HE IS DOING THEM A HUGE FAVOR!! They believe it too.

Many people shake their heads in disbelief that so many are fooled by Brad Skipper. All they have to do is look around them and use some common sense to come up with the right questions. They don't dare ask pressing questions on Swinguards forum though. If they do they will be deleted or banned like so many others and Brad will start his "pre-smear" campaign on them and start discrediting them with his lies before the door closes behind them.

Mark my words Swinguard Minions. You are being had like a flock of drugged sheep. Watch out for yourselves and try asking yourself some questions about your lord and master. His lies generally don't hold water after just a little bit of intelligent thought.

When Brad tells you that the POST OFFICE lost TEN packages in the same DAY as an excuse for why nobodies purchases are arriving............you believe that???!!!!

When a customer gets part of an order but the two most EXPENSIVE ITEMS WERE TAKEN FROM THE BOX BY THE POST OFFICE IN TRANSIT, do any of you bother to think how nonsensical and self serving, not to mention CONVENIENT, that is. Brad claims a post office employee OPENED THE BOX AND TOOK THE TWO BEST PIECES THEN CLOSED IT UP AND SENT IT ON?????!!!!! C'mon. If somebody were going to steal something they would take the whole box not sent the box with only the least expensive item AND POSSIBLE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE LINKING THEM TO THE THEFT. Give us all a break and start using your heads.

Brad Skipper is OBVIOUSLY willing to do anything and lie to and ABOUT anybody for his own benefit. HIS OWN ACTIONS SHOULD TELL AN INTELLIGENT PERSON WHAT HE IS UP TO.

All of the nicey nice honey dripping butt kissing swill that he drools all over HIS loyal minions on HIS censored forum are purely designed to put anybody who will listen to sleep so he can pick their pockets. YOUR POCKETS!!!

There is a reason Brad Skipper only shows up on forums he runs. The reason is that there are too many out there that know the truth and are willing to share it. Brad doesn't want the truth to be shared.

Ask yourself how many old friends have abandoned this singly person. Brad would have you believe THEY are all wrong and evil and he is the poor pathetic victim. He usually backs his defense up with a major illness or relapse so you don't ask too many questions of the poor, feeble, victim in his time of heartbreak and misery. IT'S AN ACT!!! Can all of these people, OF WHOM NICK WAS ONE, be wrong??? Look at the character of those who have recognized Brads lies and walked away from his cult. These people are beyond reproach. Every one of them HIGHLY TRUSTED members of the community for YEARS!! The ONLY negative garbage you read about these people, whose only crime was pointing out Brads lies, is falsely generated by the loyal minions of the Cult of the Swinguard.

When ONE PERSON blames EVERYBODY ELSE for their problems, maybe it isn't anybody's fault but the ONE PERSON.

Men of character stand up for what is right. Men of opportunity try to drag men of character down to their level. Sheep follow whoever feeds them.

I'm not asking or expecting the Swinguard Cult members to believe anything. I'm asking them to apply some common sense to things before you go out and trash others based on something an obvious liar has told you.At least KNOW what you are talking about.

If you have any questions I'll answer them. I'm not afraid to answer them because I don't have anything to hide.

Brad hides, doesn't like questions he can't delete and CANNOT BACK UP HIS LIES IN PUBLIC AMONG THINKING PEOPLE AND RIPPED OFF CUSTOMERS.

If Brad has NOTHING TO HIDE, why is everybody that disagrees with him BANNED from his own personal forum?? Most have their IP address blocked so they can't even READ the lies let alone respond to them.

You guys CAN'T think this is fair. A forum where only one side of an issue is allowed??? Why not open up the forum to ALL COMMERS and let them state their opinions. Accusations should be backed up and rebuttal is welcome.

Otherwise it's just Brads side of the story. Since there are SO MANY people of good character that think Brads side of the story is untrue, don't you owe it to yourself to find out the other side??

Thanks.

My name is Perry AKA ironworker on the swinguard knife forum, teddy's knife forum, blade play forum, talk blade forum, and a few others . .
There is no such person as Ed from englishtown and he never purchased a knife from swinguard.com
He wouldnt know a switch if it bit him,by the sound of his post.

this is simply a continuing smear campagn by one nick wagner of nicnac.com and horizon.com
Swinguard is in the business of suppling quality knives,built by Frank Beltrame in italy. It appears that this smear campaign is due to the rejection of a dealership and a buyout offer by one nick wagner..it kills me..to how greedy a person can get. The italian switchblades that are built for and designed by swinguard in connection with frank beltrame are the highest quality in the world..we dont have to deny orders and not ship them..there is a line waiting for our knives. I have just become an authorized dealer of the wsb/FB line,and Brad has offered to front me up to 30 knives for an upcoming show..that's with no money at all..in this dealing..so,why in the world would he rip off one lowly wanna be customer?..god hates a liar and a thief So..folks..go to our website,and go to our forum and read the real story. dont be fooled by simple greed.

regards,

aka ironworker