Complaint Review: The Auditors' Report Inc. - Vancouver British Columbia
The Auditors' Report Inc. The President of The Auditors' Report Inc. is a Fraudster! Vancouver, British Columbia Canada
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: It's better to bend, than to break! | Lori van der Merwe | www.adminsupportpro.co.za
*Author of original report: Evidence Speaks For Itself
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: I can hire my own people on Elance, thanks.
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We spoke about his requirements and agreed on what I would charge him. On sending the initial contract to him, after getting my team on-board, he refused to sign the agreement, this is the original message as per a Skype chat:
[2012/07/14 05:53:24 PM] Ben Jones: Hi Lori, i got your message
I dont have a scanner handy so it is difficult to sign and return that agreement
[2012/07/14 05:53:45 PM] Ben Jones: not sure the point either
[2012/07/14 05:53:58 PM] Ben Jones: difficult to enforce, just have my work i will pay you
[2012/07/14 05:54:59 PM] Ben Jones: however, i am having second thoughts about the whole thing because at that rate i could probably employ someone in Vancouer
[2012/07/14 05:55:14 PM] Ben Jones: reason i am emplopying people overseas is to make it affordable
[2012/07/14 05:55:23 PM] Ben Jones: i pay people in the phillipines $20 per day"
I replied that he should go ahead and use the people in the Philippines to do his work and that was that. [continued below]....
On the 26th of July 2012, Ben, contacted me again, saying that this time he could afford to pay for the team to work on his project, this is the original Skype chat:
[2012/07/26 01:07:23 PM] Ben Jones: hey
[2012/07/26 01:07:29 PM] Ben Jones: OK I am ready for your help now
[2012/07/26 01:07:33 PM] Ben Jones: I'll sign that agreement
[2012/07/26 01:07:36 PM] Ben Jones: Please contact me tmrw
[2012/07/26 01:08:00 PM] Ben Jones: I really need to get going on this, some company has popped up as a competitor and it's getting quite serious
[2012/07/26 01:08:11 PM] Ben Jones: please email me at XXX@theauditorsreport.com
[2012/07/26 01:08:12 PM] Ben Jones: thanks
This time he signed the agreement. Once more I assembled the team, got them briefed and ready to start, a day later Ben emails me to say that the total hours for the job was 150 and that he could only afford about a $1000CAD. I Skyped him, this is the original message:
[2012/07/28 01:34:05 PM] Lori ****: Hi Ben, when are you free to talk?
[2012/07/28 01:35:33 PM | Edited 01:58:46 PM] Lori van der Merwe: Because of the budget, I have decided to change it to a max of 150 hrs @ $6/hr
[2012/07/28 01:36:09 PM] Lori ****: that will be $900 CAD in total
[2012/07/28 01:38:18 PM] Lori ****: I am awarding the project through Elance because it is too costly to pay the VA's directly into their bank accounts
[2012/07/28 01:39:35 PM | Edited 01:59:35 PM] Lori ****: This means that you will need to make two payments of $450 CAD as per these dates below:
[2012/07/28 01:40:56 PM | Edited 01:45:48 PM] Lori ****: on 31/07/2012 & 07/08/2012
[2012/07/28 01:42:13 PM] Lori ****: Let me knw ASAP so I can give the guys the go ahead.
His response was, original message from Skype:
[2012/07/28 08:00:38 PM] Ben Jones: wow, amazing. I am 10000% on board
[2012/07/28 08:00:41 PM] Ben Jones: you rock
[2012/07/28 08:06:42 PM] Ben Jones: enjoy your dinner, hopeully we can talk this afternoon, thank you SO much for your help/accommodation - I have no problem paying you more in future too
[2012/07/28 08:06:52 PM] Lori ****: Np
[2012/07/28 08:06:59 PM] Ben Jones: like a couple hundred here and there as bonus/tip - really awesome stuff
So I went back to the team and told them that not all of them could work on the project, disappointing them once more. I hired two of my team members to work on this project via Elance because it costs less to pay them through Elance. We started work on Sunday, 29 July 2012, we found errors on the database and other issues that we brought to Ben's attention and as far as we knew Ben was thrilled to have us do the work so efficiently. Wrong!
Ben was busy looking for people who were willing to do the work for less!
Today, Ben's first payment of $450CAD was due and this is what he had to say via Skype:
[04:47:31 AM] Ben Jones: Hi Lori we now have Sohaib and 1 person in Philippines working on this too
[05:48:00 AM] Lori ****: Ok, do u want me to stop working on this project?
[05:48:41 AM] Lori ****: Because we have an agreement
[05:48:52 AM] Ben Jones: no, i'd like to get it done, so please continue... and yes the agreement
[05:49:08 AM] Ben Jones: it is a lot more expensive for me
[05:49:17 AM] Lori ****: I'm sending you the bank details via email
[05:49:20 AM] Ben Jones: and a lot mroe regimented re: payment dates, etc. but it's all good
[05:49:30 AM] Ben Jones: yes , payment is tomorrow right?
[05:49:36 AM] Lori ****: Yes
[05:49:41 AM] Ben Jones: I'll be sure to pay you EXACTLY when you asked for it. everything opk?
[05:49:56 AM] Ben Jones: not 1min late
[05:50:18 AM] Lori ****: If I had not hired my guys to do this work, I could have been more flexible
[05:50:35 AM] Lori ****: but they have families to support too
[05:50:47 AM] Ben Jones: sorry i'm just busy coordinateing with a few people who are working for $200 a month, one sec
[05:51:16 AM] Ben Jones: ok sorry i'm back
[05:51:22 AM] Ben Jones: yes you are right, they want money
[05:51:26 AM] Ben Jones: i understand totally
[05:51:45 AM] Lori ****: Look, Ben, if you are not happy with us doing the work, just say so
[05:51:47 AM] Ben Jones: please continue with L-Z
[05:51:48 AM] Ben Jones: thanks
[05:52:18 AM] Lori ****: I'm working on 'I' right now
[05:52:34 AM] Lori ****: going backwards like you said we should
[05:52:52 AM] Ben Jones: I think you are more used to working with companies with larger budgets that are not spending their own money, it's all good we'll ge this done and i will honor the agreement.
[05:53:22 AM] Ben Jones: ok so what letters can I assign to 2 other people?
[05:53:27 AM] Lori ****: OK. thank you
[05:53:54 AM] Ben Jones: if we could only do 1/2 of it, that would be best
[05:54:02 AM] Ben Jones: like the $450 and then stop, that would be ideal
[05:54:12 AM] Ben Jones: because it's just very expensive, but whatever
[05:54:23 AM] Lori ****: Roman is doing Z-M, I'm doing G-L & Karl is doing B-F
[05:54:30 AM] Ben Jones: oh you have 3 people?
[05:54:36 AM] Lori ****: Yes
[05:54:39 AM] Ben Jones: i thought two
[05:54:48 AM] Ben Jones: ok well i have two more
[05:54:50 AM] Lori ****: No, me & two others
[05:57:55 AM] Lori ****: Ok, how do you propose we do that because at the rate we are wrking we will be done before the end of this week?
[05:58:33 AM] Lori ****: So, how exactly do you propose we work out the $450?
[05:59:46 AM] Lori ****: you told me you wanted us to do this job. If I had known you were going to hire other people, I would have refused
Lori ****: So, how exactly do you propose we work out the $450?
[06:03:45 AM] Ben Jones:I'll just pay you. It's far more than I've given Sohaib, which really sucks
[06:03:55 AM] Ben Jones: but whatevr
[06:04:30 AM] Ben Jones: i dont want you to think i'm dodging this, but wow like data entry job, you're making as much as my lawyer in vancouver, seriously
[06:04:33 AM] Lori ****: Sohaib lives in pakistan, whatever u giving him is a fortune! Look, I'm sending you the banking details, its ur decision...
[06:04:34 AM] Ben Jones: it's a little rediculous
[06:05:03 AM] Ben Jones: i'm going to pay you $450
[06:05:13 AM] Ben Jones: as for the other $450 maybe we can hold off on that?
Later on, Ben Skypes me:
[06:20:58 AM] Ben Jones: please stop working on it
[06:21:02 AM] Ben Jones: stop everything
[06:24:04 AM] Ben Jones: OK
[06:24:14 AM] Ben Jones: just spoke to the database admin for our company
[06:24:33 AM] Ben Jones: he's got over 30 years of experience in database design and charges $70 per hour
[06:24:41 AM] Ben Jones: anyways, he says there are 463 entries in the db in TOTALK
[06:24:44 AM] Ben Jones: TOTAL
[06:25:02 AM] Ben Jones: Sohaib has done 20 pages per day and there are 20 records per row
[06:25:39 AM] Ben Jones: not all rows are data, so i would estimate you and your "team" (i..e people you have hired on elance that I could have done same) have done MAX 100 rows
[06:25:50 AM] Ben Jones: that's being generous
So, as you can all see, Ben has some serious issues that he needs to address and if he thinks that this is how business is conducted then he should steer well away from it or risk being sued! Suffice to say that as I am in South Africa, it will be impossible to sue him for breach of contract but I am hoping that someone out there will read this and offer some assistance.
I have also attached both the contracts that were e-signed for this project as proof of the above.
*Ben has now deleted me off his contacts from Skype*
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