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Complaint Review: The Marketing Group - Cydcor - Englewood Colorado

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I know several people have written about Cydcor and it's various companies and that the reosrts have become repetitive, but something must be done to this company to end all these lies and the deception.

I came across a posting on careerbuilder.com for a company called The Marketing Group in Denver, CO. They described themselves as a "direct marketing firm, representing some of the largest companies in the Fortune 500." They went on to paint a picture of a wonderful company that "creates partnerships through a personal commitment to profitability for our clients and employees. We are also dedicated to the personal and professional growth of our associates and creating life-long business partners." It all sounded to good to pass up, so I submitted my resume and was called in for an interview.

The day of my interview, I walked into a beautiful and professional looking office filled with good looking individuals dressed professionally in suits. It looked very professional and legit. I was called into one of the owners offices. She's an attractive, young blonde with a bubbly personality and a positive attitude. She asked me very few questions and told me little about the company, but stressed the opportunity that awaited you and the money and quick promotions that occured. It sounded like a great opportunity and one that I decided I wanted to be a part of. I was informed that I would be called by six o'clock that evening if they wanted me to come back for a second interview and that I had to be by the phone to receive that call because they would not be leaving voicemails. So, I received the call and went in for my second interview the following Monday.

The second interview was nothing like an interview. I was paired up with what was introduced to me as one of the firms "top executives", whom I learned was really what they referred to as a "leader". She was a passionate, friendly, and bubbly young lady and I spent the day with her doing door to door sales in a suburb that was 30 miles away from the office. I had no idea the job entailed door to door sales, which I was completely against, but as I was explained the compensation, the quick promotions, and the wonderful management training you received, it didn't sound all that bad.

I was offered a position with the company and started the very next day. The girl who conducted my second interview became my leader and trainer and I followed her for three days learning the business and the techniques used to sell. At the time I was told that the hours I would be working would be from 8am to 6pm, that I would receive a $300 training bonus to compensate me for the three days of training I had to complete, and that I would receive 30% of every sale I made. Boy was I deceived!

Once you finish you're training period, you are asked to come in to work at 7:30 every morning and I usually didn't leave the office until 7:30 at night. That 30% I was promised to receive after every sale was actually dropped to 28%. The mornings began with two meetings that began at 8am and didn't end until 9:45, at which time you were sent out into the field to go business to business to sell office supplies.

I was given a poor territory that left no chance to make any money or to succeed. I was told that in order to be promoted, I would have to make 2-3 sales per day for one week and earn $1000 in personal profit. Two weeks in, another guy who was hired almost a week after me was promoted and I couldn't understand why. I didn't focus too much on it and continued to work hard. I came to find out that my boss picks and chooses who she wants to promote- there's no rhyme or reason to it.

This week is my third week with the company and just last night I was told the coniving and dishonest practices of this company. I was so excited to be working with this company and thought it would be the career of a lifetime. I was fortunate enough to be paired with a wonderful and honest trainer who did some research and found out all the lies and the scandal behind this company and she met with me last night to share them with me.

The poor girl had no idea all this was going on and felt so horrible because she's trained 35 people in the last two months and lied to every single one of us and had no idea. At least she had the decentcy to come forward and share this pertinent information with us so that we wouldn't be taken advantage of anymore.

The particular branch in Denver that I worked for has two owners. My trainer found out that one of these owners has five lawsuits against him- 2 rape charges for raping two girls at an office he opened in Virginia, 2 racism charges for the office he opened in San Francisco, and 1 charge for sexual harassment from the office he worked in in Oklahoma. He has been gone from our office for the past week and a half and my trainer confronted my boss about it and she told some of us he was on vacation, and she told others he was awaiting the renewal of his visa- both of which were lies. He is actually dealing with the consequences of his actions.

All this stuff could be found on the web, which is where my trainer got it from, but since our boss has figured out that we know what's going on, she had her assistant delete any information off the web that pertained to this particular Denver office.

My trainer also lived with my boss who is the second owner, and overheard all the deceitful and coniving things she executed with the company. She lied to all of us and told us that once you reach the third promotion, you receive salary. No one receives salary, including the owner. Everything is 100% commission. Once you're a "leader", you get a small portion of the commission from your trainees. The owner gets the rest. When you're an assistant manager, you receive a larger amount of the commission from the trainees and the trainers themselves. The owner receives the largest percentage of commission and it comes from everyone in the office.

This entire company is built on manipulation and fraud and it should be shut down! I quit today and found out I will not be receiving any of the money I earned over my time there. My boss was caught taking money from our personal commission accounts and entering them into her own. Flat out stealing!! They think they can get away with this and they are sorely mistaken! You spend more money on the gas and repairs to your car (you have to provide your own transortation) than you earn. You are told that all your expenses are deducted from your taxes. That's a load of bull too!!

Everything about this company is a lie and I thank my wonderful and honest trainer for opening my eyes to it all. Stay away from this company at all costs!!!

Anonymous
Denver, Colorado
U.S.A.

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#5 General Comment

Has anything been done to expose this company?

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, January 10, 2010

I had a similar bad experience with The Marketing Group in Englewood, CO in March 2009. I noticed the company is still regularly posting ads on sites like careerbuilder.com, and I was wondering if the person on here who said they were gathering evidence to take it to the news actually did so... or if anything has been done?

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CYDCOR OFFICES: SEXUAL HARASSMENT and SHADY BEHAVIOR!

AUTHOR: BigK - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, October 12, 2009






I used to work with Sean, LA Marketing Firm and was a part of Jaimes sales org and Cydcor. I was frequently one of the top reps on my campaign and I had up to 14 guys on my team. I love sales. I still work in sales and business development. However, now I make more money get full benefits which I pay nothing for (FYI, if youre good at sales, you dont have to worry about job security). So why did I leave? A little thing called business ethics.


I not going to completely insult the business structure or the field. However, I can say that the business is not what it appears to be and that many Cydcor managers are nave, ignorant, and unfit to be running a business. After my experience with Cydcor offices and managers (owners so they call themselves). I must tell you that you should not work there if you are a female or find any of the following behavior or scenarios inappropriate . . .



  1. Seans 30 something year old assistant manager sleeps with a teenage girl on his team . . . and gets her pregnant . . . about 15 feet from where the Sean sleeps (they mightve tried to hide that one but 40 weeks makes it pretty obvious).
  2. Your boss actually argues with you that when a girl says NO! she usually means Yes . . . and then tries to prove it to you.
  3. Your boss refers to his admin as the third base coach in reference to her sexual activity before her boyfriend.
  4. Your boss tells you, I want to f**k you!
  5. Your manager tells you that every guy in the business wants to fu*k you.
  6. Your boss, while in the office, refers to a girl on your team as  c*m-dumpster
  7. While trying to train the new admin she freaks out and looks up at you in disgust as a response to the pornographic photos floating across the screen of the bosses laptop.
  8. Someone you see as a mentor calls you late at night to get you to come over to his hotel room.
  9. You tell a superior you arent interested and he is then a complete d**k to you.
  10. While in the office, your boss asks you or the admin if youve ever kissed a girl. . . . then he asks you if you would have a threesome with one of the Cydcor employees.
  11. Your manager says he wants to fu*k Vera Q (sorry, I think the VP of Operations at Cydcor deserves a little more respect than that)
  12. Your manager/owner and another manager frequently joke in front of you about one of them fu*king the others admin.
  13. Another manager in your sales organization cheats on his wife with an employee.
  14. There is no HR.
  15. The punishment for sexual harassment is getting yelled at (that's how you handle it professionally  . . . right?).
  16. A manager/owner asks you for a 1 on 1 . . .  you think it is because you high rolled the office that day by making $250 . . . you then realize that he simply wanted a chance to hit on you and grope you.
  17. Your boss tells you that you should expect to be hit on at work. When you ask what you do differently that dozens of other people in the office you are told Have you looked in the mirror? You dont look like [them]
  18. The bosss response to being called unprofessional is to tell people their idea of a professional environment doesnt exist.
  19. You boss tells you that a girl who had barely sold anything during her 6 weeks of employment was allowed to stick around bc shed come to work with her shirt half un buttoned and it was entertaining to the guys.
  20. Two superiors constantly talk about implying a NO GIRLS ALLOWD rule because females are high-maintenance (all females I ever saw get anywhere were considered so).

Im so embarrassed that I was associated with these people and managers who know about this behavior and do nothing about it. Furthermore, Ive felt incredibly guilty not talking about this when I know women are constantly interviewing to work in these offices.  After sticking around, I realized why there are few to none female managers working with these guys.  Hopefully, this will keep other young, bright, ambitious driven and somewhat nave females from making the same mistakes I did . . . looking the other way when the above kind of behavior was happening all around me.


Furthermore, my time with Cydcor taught me that you should never work for someone who . . .



  1. Doesnt pay you
  2. Teaches you to fudge #s in Merlin and yells at you when you do it correctly.  
  3. Owes you over $1000
  4. Owes one of your guys $200
  5. Lies to you
  6. Plays video games instead of hitting the field
  7. Reads gossip collums while you work.
  8. Tells you he is hitting the field and goes home to sleep
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CYDCOR OFFICES: SEXUAL HARASSMENT and SHADY BEHAVIOR!

AUTHOR: BigK - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, October 12, 2009

I used to work with Sean, LA Marketing Firm and was a part of Jaimes sales org and Cydcor. I was frequently one of the top reps on my campaign and I had up to 14 guys on my team. I love sales. I still work in sales and business development. However, now I make more money get full benefits which I pay nothing for (FYI, if youre good at sales, you dont have to worry about job security).


I not going to completely insult the business structure or the field. However, I can say that the business is not what it appears to be and that many Cydcor managers are nave, ignorant, and unfit to be running a business. After my experience with Cydcor offices and managers (owners so they call themselves). I must tell you that you should not work there if you are a female or find any of the following behavior or scenarios inappropriate . . .

  1. Seans 30 something year old assistant manager sleeps with a teenage girl on his team . . . and gets her pregnant . . . about 15 feet from where the Sean sleeps (they mightve tried to hide that one but 40 weeks makes it pretty obvious).
  2. Your boss actually argues with you that when a girl says NO! she usually means Yes . . . and then tries to prove it to you.
  3. Your boss refers to his admin as the third base coach in reference to her sexual activity before her boyfriend.
  4. Your boss tells you, I want to f**k you!
  5. Your manager tells you that every guy in the business wants to f**k you.
  6. Your boss, while in the office, refers to a girl on your team as  c*m-dumpster
  7. While trying to train the new admin she freaks out and looks up at you in disgust as a response to the pornographic photos floating across the screen of the bosses laptop.
  8. Someone you see as a mentor calls you late at night to get you to come over to his hotel room.
  9. You tell a superior you arent interested and he is then a complete d**k to you.
  10. While in the office, your boss asks you or the admin if youve ever kissed a girl. . . . then he asks you if you would have a threesome with one of the Cydcor employees.
  11. Your manager says he wants to f**k Vera Q (sorry, I think the VP of Operations at Cydcor deserves a little more respect than that)
  12. Your manager/owner and another manager frequently joke in front of you about one of them f**king the others admin.
  13. Another manager in your sales organization cheats on his wife with an employee.
  14. There is no HR.
  15. The punishment for sexual harassment is getting yelled at (that's how you handle it professionally  . . . right?).
  16. A manager/owner asks you for a 1 on 1 . . .  you think it is because you high rolled the office that day by making $250 . . . you then realize that he simply wanted a chance to hit on you and grope you.
  17. Your boss tells you that you should expect to be hit on at work. When you ask what you do differently that dozens of other people in the office you are told Have you looked in the mirror? You dont look like [them]
  18. The bosss response to being called unprofessional is to tell people their idea of a professional environment doesnt exist.
  19. You boss tells you that a girl who had barely sold anything during her 6 weeks of employment was allowed to stick around bc shed come to work with her shirt half un buttoned and it was entertaining to the guys.
  20. Two superiors constantly talk about implying a NO GIRLS ALLOWD rule because females are high-maintenance (all females I ever saw get anywhere were considered so).

Im so embarrassed that I was associated with these people and managers who know about this behavior and do nothing about it. Furthermore, Ive felt incredibly guilty not talking about this when I know women are constantly interviewing to work in these offices.  After sticking around, I realized why there are few to none female managers working with these guys.  Hopefully, this will keep other young, bright, ambitious driven and somewhat nave females from making the same mistakes I did . . . looking the other way when the above kind of behavior was happening all around me.


Furthermore, my time with Cydcor taught me that you should never work for someone who . . .

  1. Doesnt pay you
  2. Teaches you to fudge #s in Merlin and yells at you when you do it correctly.  
  3. Owes you over $1000
  4. Owes one of your guys $200
  5. Lies to you
  6. Plays video games instead of hitting the field
  7. Reads gossip collums while you work.
  8. Tells you he is hitting the field and goes home to sleep

 

 

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Gathering Information to Blow the Whistle

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, August 18, 2009

I am a new grad with my Master's degree, who almost got roped, until my intuition got the better of me and I started doing my research. I ran acrosss this site, and thank God, because I didn't get sucked in. I have found that many people have been sucked into this scheme, and I find it a horrendous injustice that these people are preying on new grads who are suffering already because of the state of the job market.

I am gathering information and going to the news. Please respond on how we can organize and bring this corrupted corporation to it's knees.

 

 

 

 

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AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, July 25, 2009

I know several people have written about Cydcor and it's various companies and that the reports have become repetitive, but something must be done to this company to end all these lies and the deception.

I came across a posting on careerbuilder.com for a company called The Marketing Group in Denver, CO. They described themselves as a "direct marketing firm, representing some of the largest companies in the Fortune 500." They went on to paint a picture of a wonderful company that "creates partnerships through a personal commitment to profitability for our clients and employees. We are also dedicated to the personal and professional growth of our associates and creating life-long business partners." It all sounded to good to pass up, so I submitted my resume and was called in for an interview.

The day of my interview, I walked into a beautiful and professional looking office filled with good looking individuals dressed professionally in suits. It looked very professional and legit. I was called into one of the owners offices. She's an attractive, young blonde with a bubbly personality and a positive attitude. She asked me very few questions and told me little about the company, but stressed the opportunity that awaited you and the money and quick promotions that occured. It sounded like a great opportunity and one that I decided I wanted to be a part of. I was informed that I would be called by six o'clock that evening if they wanted me to come back for a second interview and that I had to be by the phone to receive that call because they would not be leaving voicemails. So, I received the call and went in for my second interview the following Monday.

The second interview was nothing like an interview. I was paired up with what was introduced to me as one of the firms "top executives", whom I learned was really what they referred to as a "leader". She was a passionate, friendly, and bubbly young lady and I spent the day with her doing door to door sales in a suburb that was 30 miles away from the office. I had no idea the job entailed door to door sales, which I was completely against, but as I was explained the compensation, the quick promotions, and the wonderful management training you received, it didn't sound all that bad. I was offered a position with the company and started the very next day.

The girl who conducted my second interview became my leader and trainer and I followed her for three days learning the business and the techniques used to sell. At the time I was told that the hours I would be working would be from 8am to 6pm, that I would receive a $300 training bonus to compensate me for the three days of training I had to complete, and that I would receive 30% of every sale I made. Boy was I deceived!

Once you finish you're training period, you are asked to come in to work at 7:30 every morning and I usually didn't leave the office until 7:30 at night. That 30% I was promised to receive after every sale was actually dropped to 28%. The mornings began with two meetings that began at 8am and didn't end until 9:45, at which time you were sent out into the field to go business to business to sell office supplies. I was given a poor territory that left no chance to make any money or to succeed. I was told that in order to be promoted, I would have to make 2-3 sales per day for one week and earn $1000 in personal profit.

Two weeks in, another guy who was hired almost a week after me was promoted and I couldn't understand why. I didn't focus too much on it and continued to work hard. I came to find out that my boss picks and chooses who she wants to promote- there's no rhyme or reason to it. This week is my third week with the company and just last night I was told the coniving and dishonest practices of this company.

I was so excited to be working with this company and thought it would be the career of a lifetime. I was fortunate enough to be paired with a wonderful and honest trainer who did some research and found out all the lies and the scandal behind this company and she shared them with me. The poor girl had no idea all this was going on and felt so horrible because she's trained 35 people in the last two months and lied to every single one of us and had no idea. At least she had the decentcy to come forward and share this pertinent information with us so that we wouldn't be taken advantage of anymore.

The owner lied to all of us and told us that once you reach the third promotion, you receive salary. No one receives salary, including the owner. Everything is 100% commission. Once you're a "leader", you get a small portion of the commission from your trainees. The owner gets the rest. When you're an assistant manager, you receive a larger amount of the commission from the trainees and the trainers themselves. The owner receives the largest percentage of commission and it comes from everyone in the office. This entire company is built on manipulation and fraud and it should be shut down! I quit today and found out I will not be receiving any of the money I earned over my time there.

You spend more money on the gas and repairs to your car (you have to provide your own transortation) than you earn. You are told that all your expenses are deducted from your taxes. That's a load of bull too!! Everything about this company is a lie and I thank my wonderful and honest trainer for opening my eyes to it all. Stay away from this company at all costs!!!

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