United States Navy Navy is not an good place to work High Seas California

I was in the Navy and I know that there is no way that you can get away with drug use. It happens, but people get separated for doing it because you will eventually get caught. These people are usually caught at the MEPS or boot camp level because of the constant piss testing.

If people in the Navy did something to you that was wrong then you can give their names here and no one will ever know who you are. You telling stories like this and not giving names and dates and places at this point makes your story not believeable. 

I did 11 years in the Blue Water Navy. And it looks like things haven't changed a bit. Keep up the bickering and talk of expertise and BS people! It's embarrassing to call myself a "veteran" of this organization. I had to laugh to myself though, when I read the "female" that used the term, "My Navy". All of these "Sea Warriors" blogging online when the general public thinks and believes that they are defending the country.

Next time a US citizen thanks you for your service, tell them the truth...you were surfing the web, taking "smoke breaks" and on your off time, playing World of Warcraft.

Not only is the originator of this article a baffoon, but so are all the other responders...INCLUDING MYSELF, for joining the worst company in the country.

Hooyah!

After reading the posts made by someone who displays all the education of a 4th grader and trying to decide if this person is for real, I can only draw the following conclusions:

1. He is either q***r or acts effeminatly, naturally drawing the harassment of his shipmates.

2. This was his first time out from under mommy's sheltering wing...couldn't handle being around real men.

3. He had to go through the shellback initiation and got greased, dirty and pink bellied by those meanies...!

As a 21 year enlisted Navy veteran with 9 cruises aboard 5 carriers (1974-1995), I along with anyone else who has been in for a while, have seen the children who couldn't handle military life. They reacted by constantly crying about anything they could. They had never had to WORK before and couldn't handle that either. Very few of them would take some personal initiative and either try to improve themselves or seek help from the chain of command. Being part of a team requires conformance with the team!

From the content of the posts it appears that this person was in sometime in the late 70's when marijuana use was common. He wants to complain now??? The sign of a real loser. The Navy has come a long way since then. There is ZERO tolerance for drug use ever since the Marine EA6B crashed on a carrier flight deck and it was discovered that three of the four aircrew as well as many of the flight deck crew had traces of pot in their systems. In the early 80's I saw several people approaching retirement who were busted in a command wide drug sweep and were processed out of the Navy the SAME day, no questions asked. Not even a "chat" with the skipper or the CMC...just escorted out.

There is also waning tolerance for alcohol use, zero tolerance for sexual harassment and zero tolerance for physical violence of any type. The last squadron I was in had the XO processed out because he slapped his wife during some function at the officer's club.

The Navy has become a more professional team in the last 20 years or so. It isn't for everyone, either. If someone wants to sign up, personal responsibility dictates they do some research before taking the oath...find out what your getting into! DUH!

Abu Grey Crew??

Never heard of em. You are clearly someone who never served in the military? I take back what I said before you obviously got kicked out at boot camp

Cliffoed, I see that You claim You abused alcohol while in the U.S.N. Do you still today have an addiction to alcohol?

Cliff, you stated, I am not saying it did not happen at all, But you said from your experience you never saw it on your ship. I challenge you to check courtmarshall and artical 15 records, Navy wide befor you say the store is not true. You should do your research befor claim you know what you are doing. Goes to show you are either poorly educated or lack education.

I was in the Navy for 5 years before 1980 and so was my brother. They obviously expected a lot of us, we worked hard and had a lot of responsibility. I spent nearly the entire time at sea on a Guided Missile destroyer (USS Sellers DDG11) as an FTM. The experience greatly matured me and the experience and education got me a job immediately with IBM where I worked for 30 years.

We used to go out and party and get drunk on liberty but I never saw anyone drunk or high on board ship. I am not saying it didn't happen at all, just that if it was so prevalent I would have been aware of it at some point during those years.

No Ripoff here.

Please do not bother me about this again. First of all I am going to make it clear I would rather die and be sent to hell befor I will give you the names of the sailers, airmen and marines I served with. Secondly I have letters from civillians we saved that surrendered their weopons to us and we gave safe passage to navy hospital. Third I can not give you their names, so let them live in peace. The sailors, airmen and marines I served with had an higher moral and ethic than anyone that intentionally killed inocent civillians or people willing to surrender after negotiation and higher than the Abu Grey Crew. Please, do not bother me again about this. Evrything I have said is true.

Looking at your complaints I would say you stood mail buoy watch the whole time you were in right Jeff?? The only people that I know of that got the treatment you described were either dirty slobs and/or thieves that stole from their shipmates.

I don't see where you performed any actual duties just jobs for boots to show how naive they were.

You obviously led a sheltered life before you joined the service. Now that you are out you can move back into your parents basement with your posters.

You should do your research befor you call someone on liar. It is apparrant you have no real education for if you did you would have done your reasearch and known that the navy started random drug screening in 1981. besides that the Navy claims that the Navy was not officially cleaned up untill after 1984 when they changed ucmj and official campain. I am ashamed of you personnally to trust the Navy so much. I am going to laugh at your @SS when the government or dictorial rule of the military takes your rites away because you are so ignorant. Why I bet you still believe in Santa Clause. You require to learn how to do your reasearch and study the past befor you cut some body down over an simple misssplelling. Because , I know you got the gist of what I said. You are to clandestine and pejoritive pertaining to truth and the past. I bet you would rather die and go to hell than tell the truth. I bet you are not an shellback. You sound like an ignorant boot camp. Everything I have ever said is true and I demand you show me some respect. There can never be any negotiation on it. I demand you show some respect boot camp.

Judging from your use of grammar and spelling, I tend to think that you are filling a false report and you are probably 13 years old. I was in the Navy for four years. I just recently got out in December 2006. So, trust me, I know the rules and regulations on hazing and verbal/physical abuse. If any of the stuff you said was true, then I can promise you, justice would have been served. The first question I have is this, find legit proof that "they" can cut your throat for "snitching." Second question is this, the military does random drug screenings of most schedule drugs. If "everyone" smoked marijuana I think a command wide sweep would be enforced. What was your rate(job title)? If it was anything in deck department then yes, it may seem like slave labor seeing as how they do a lot of manual/hard work. For someone that has never had a job, this may seem like a horrible thing. As far as the education goes, tell me why on deployments they have college professors come out to the ship to teach SOME classes? Also, while in port all you need to do is apply for TA(Tuitions Assistants) and put a request in for educational purposes. I'm not saying that it always gets accepted, but it DOES happen. YOU, yes, YOU are the one that needs to make the decision to spend your off time pursuing your education. As far as the pay goes, what did you expect? Military pay is a set salary E1-O10 depending on years served. Depending on your job you get very nice extra pay. As you said, you coded aircraft for launch, did you work on the flight deck? If you did, then I KNOW you got extra pay just for that. So, stop complaining about the pay. Next topic, they made you a medic. Well, just in case you missed this part of boot camp, EVERYONE is a trained firefighter AND at times you will be placed at a repair locker assisting medical personnel in medical emergencies. So, you were told to do that, that's the way the military works, you're told to do things and you buck up and do it. Maybe you got the real military mixed up with Top Gun or Rambo, but in my honest opinion I think you either are a complete liar or you had a bad experience with just a couple guys and you want to retaliate by placing the blame on the entire USN. I think you should just grow up and think about what you are saying.

Email me if you need further explaining....

Steve Harbin Aviation Ordnancemen Third Class.
United State Navy Veteran

I have a hard time believing everything that you say is truthful. Especially about "everyone smokes pot". THC shows up in the urine for 30 days and if someone pops positive they are automatically processed out after going to Captains Mast. A few have gotten hotshot lawyers and fought it, but as a whole drug use is not permitted or permissible in the military.

And as for the hazing, what did you do about it? Did you go to your Chain of Command? Did you go to your JAG? Your Chaplain? I have a hard time believing someone could undergo being covered with grease and then just come here and complain about it on a web site.

If you're going to complain about my Navy, maybe you better make the charges stick, I am a female and have not had any problems with what you have described.