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Complaint Review: Vic Ocana - Rich Man's Toys - Pueblo Colorado

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  • Vic Ocana - Rich Man's Toys 320 Hilltop Dr., Redding, California 96003 Pueblo, Colorado U.S.A.

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If you search for Vic Ocana in the Real Estate category, you will find valuable information which I have posted.

Vic Ocana, and apparently, his companion, Adrienne Thomas-Ocana, are criminals. He stole tens of thousands of dollars from me in a real estate scam. By extension, he also committed mortgage fraud.

I believe this new company, Rich Man's Toys, LLC, was funded with money due to me per our real estate deal, and specializes in ATVs.

The registered agent for Rich Man's Toys, LLC, is "Adrienne M. O'Shea." Ocana's companion is Adrienne M. Thomas, AKA Adrienne Ocana, AKA Adrienne Thomas-Ocana. Is is not fraud to register a company under a false name? Did Adrienne file an official assumed name? If so, WHY? The answer would be obvious.

I have numerous accounts from locals in Pueblo about his fraudulent, dishonest, unethical, and criminal behavior in real estate and horse trading. It seems even the most unlikely people, e.g., the clerk at a motel I stayed at, know of his activities.

Do not get involved in ANY deal with Vic Ocana! He is nothing more than a con-artist, especially with women, and will sieze any opportunity to rip you off.

Marcella
Houston, Texas
U.S.A.

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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sorry

AUTHOR: Adrienne - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 18, 2007
Thank you for all your help Ms. ****!
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#7 Author of original report

Once again, faulty logic and self-incrimination

AUTHOR: Marcella - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, October 21, 2006
1. At least 3 names, O'Shea, Thomas, and Ocana have been used on public records of companies with the CO Secretary of State. If she wasn't known by O'Shea since being 3 months old, why is this a name listed on any registered company?

2. Regarding addresses, why does someone need to be a "dual-citizen?" Do dual-citizens pay taxes in both states? I don't know. Might be an interesting issue for taxing authorities to examine.

3. Before this exchange, which Amos Ocana is too cowardly to address himself, I never accused Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana directly of any wrong-doing. Neither have I filed criminal charges against her. However, she insists upon asserting her authority in the operation of Amos Ocana's companies, thereby addmitting complicity.

4. I have no idea where Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana gets the notion that I dealt with her in 2003. I had never heard of her until 2005, and Amos Ocana didn't bother to mention her during all of our dealings starting in 2004. I believe she or Amos Ocana is confusing me with another victim of scams. The name-calling and immature remarks don't help her.

5. It is true I tried to work with Amos Ocana's contacts (who will have nothing to do with him anymore) to short-sell a property in LA. This is a perfectly acceptable practice, when a property is "upside-down." I still own this property.

6. It is true I sent a picture to Amos Ocana, as he did several to me. The picture is not "topless." Whether (not "weather") it is or not is irrelevant. (Also irrelevant to the real issue is my opinion that Amos Ocana is a vulgar narcissist, and I received plenty of instant messages from him that support my opinion. Even a cop in Pueblo asked me if he tried to victimize me in his usual "Casanova" fashion.)

7. I have never claimed to be "savvy," only HONEST. I do not have an inflated opinion of myself, and in fact, deferred to Amos Ocana's proclaimed expertise in his own market.

8. I have plenty of documentation and proof, which has been given to various authorities.

9. Is Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana's position that since I am a "fool," I deserve to be ripped off? Is her position that she and Amos Ocana make their money from "fools" that they can victimize? I relied on Ocana's "expertise" and on an appraisal that was supported by fake repair receipts.

10. Finally, I do not wish to spend my time going back and forth in this ridiculous exchange. I doubt that Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana's businesses are hugely successful, since she is faced with foreclosure/eviction for William Pollard and Ocana defrauding yet another mortgage company in the property where they reside that was acquired using my money.
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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Get A Clue

AUTHOR: Adrienne - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
Ms. ***** (((Marcella))) apparently cannot read since I am not known by all of the above mentioned names as I stated in the original rebuttal to her comments about me personally.

The fact remains she insist that I ripped her off some large amount of money, which is a lie. The HUD on the real estate transaction proves clearly I did not receive any funds on the home she is talking about, and if you look at the title work my company was a lien holder on that particular property when it was owned by the previous owner "Altis". Not to mention when this real estate transaction closed I was not even in the state of Colorado.

I have been in business for myself since 2000 starting in the state of California. If you do your homework it is public knowledge because I have always been licensed and registered with the state of California or Colorado.

I am also considered a dual citizen to the state of California and Colorado, since I reside in both states. There are no FALSE addresses as the two addresses reported are true, accurate, and verifiable.

To state you didn't know I existed is a lie, since you spoke to me via telephone several times when you tried to put a home loan together for me when Amos was in bankruptcy. Idiot, are you that old you cannot reflect back to 2003?

Also to blame me or anyone else for your financial problems is insane. You asked us to help you with your home in Louisiana because you were loosing it because of a poor investment. In fact I still have your hardship letter you wrote to the bank and asked MY Company to produce to your financial institution.

Further more I still have the AOL instant message from our conversation of me confronting you about sending that kind of photo to my husband. I also have the photo and yes it is topless. I can send it back to you incase you forget. Regardless, what kind of "business woman" sends those kind of photos to a man she has never met except by telephone? Weather he asked, begged or pleaded is beside the point, you sent it. What does that say about your character?

Bottom line you are not the great savvy business woman you claim to be.

You don't buy something you have never seen, unless you are a fool!

I don't run any business for anyone but myself. I definitely am not a cover for anyone. And I do not need to defend anyone else you wrote about. We are all adults here and each responsible for our own actions. Maybe you should take ownership that you screwed up and made a poor investment that netted you what 17K? Isn't that what the HUD said? How can you say you got nothing?

Blame whom ever you wish. Prove I was given what ever money you claim to have given me and I will gladly give it back. But you and I both know you didn't give me squat.

If there is one thing people should know about real estate transactions EVERYTHING is put is writing. Where is your documentations to prove your story? There is none because it's just a story.

Also I do not create false documents and I did not have anything to do with your loan documents. You produced your own stuff for your own deal to your lender and broker. Now I did hear you had a CPA involved in producing your income verification, maybe you should fire him considering he helped you purchase a property that obviously put you in way over your head.

So whoever should take the time to read this site, form your own opinion. I'm sure Ms. ***** (((Marcella))) she has nothing better to do and obviously doesn't have a successful business or she would spend her time doing more productive things like working. I guess it's easier to sit around and blame other people for her failures. However I do have a successful company to run so I will not be adding anymore to this site regarding my side of this situation.
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#5 Author of original report

Absurdity

AUTHOR: Marcella - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
Unfortunately for Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana, she chose to affiliate herself with Amos Ocana by acting as the registered agent on his LLCs, which are registered under various versions of these names of hers and various addresses where she neither lives nor conducts business. People with nothing to hide don't behave this way.

It is par for the course for Amos Ocana to hide behind his girlfriend/common-law wife. The fact that I am having this exchange with her instead of him says a lot about his character.

As for proof, I have plenty of it against Amos Ocana and his company. If Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana does not want to be associated with his crimes, she might consider removing herself from the activities of his companies. She might also have trouble disproving that she benefited from the $200,000+ that Ocana and Pollard cleared in the scam against me. She certainly can't disprove that she benefited by squatting in the atrosity of the home that Ocana left me stuck with, forcing me to evict her and incur even more cost.

The absurdity of her comments shows a disturbing lack of depth and ignores the basic fact: Tens of thousands of dollars were STOLEN from me. Other people are and will continue to be victimized, herself included.
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#4 Author of original report

Absurdity

AUTHOR: Marcella - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
Unfortunately for Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana, she chose to affiliate herself with Amos Ocana by acting as the registered agent on his LLCs, which are registered under various versions of these names of hers and various addresses where she neither lives nor conducts business. People with nothing to hide don't behave this way.

It is par for the course for Amos Ocana to hide behind his girlfriend/common-law wife. The fact that I am having this exchange with her instead of him says a lot about his character.

As for proof, I have plenty of it against Amos Ocana and his company. If Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana does not want to be associated with his crimes, she might consider removing herself from the activities of his companies. She might also have trouble disproving that she benefited from the $200,000+ that Ocana and Pollard cleared in the scam against me. She certainly can't disprove that she benefited by squatting in the atrosity of the home that Ocana left me stuck with, forcing me to evict her and incur even more cost.

The absurdity of her comments shows a disturbing lack of depth and ignores the basic fact: Tens of thousands of dollars were STOLEN from me. Other people are and will continue to be victimized, herself included.
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#3 Author of original report

Absurdity

AUTHOR: Marcella - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
Unfortunately for Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana, she chose to affiliate herself with Amos Ocana by acting as the registered agent on his LLCs, which are registered under various versions of these names of hers and various addresses where she neither lives nor conducts business. People with nothing to hide don't behave this way.

It is par for the course for Amos Ocana to hide behind his girlfriend/common-law wife. The fact that I am having this exchange with her instead of him says a lot about his character.

As for proof, I have plenty of it against Amos Ocana and his company. If Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana does not want to be associated with his crimes, she might consider removing herself from the activities of his companies. She might also have trouble disproving that she benefited from the $200,000+ that Ocana and Pollard cleared in the scam against me. She certainly can't disprove that she benefited by squatting in the atrosity of the home that Ocana left me stuck with, forcing me to evict her and incur even more cost.

The absurdity of her comments shows a disturbing lack of depth and ignores the basic fact: Tens of thousands of dollars were STOLEN from me. Other people are and will continue to be victimized, herself included.
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#2 Author of original report

Absurdity

AUTHOR: Marcella - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
Unfortunately for Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana, she chose to affiliate herself with Amos Ocana by acting as the registered agent on his LLCs, which are registered under various versions of these names of hers and various addresses where she neither lives nor conducts business. People with nothing to hide don't behave this way.

It is par for the course for Amos Ocana to hide behind his girlfriend/common-law wife. The fact that I am having this exchange with her instead of him says a lot about his character.

As for proof, I have plenty of it against Amos Ocana and his company. If Ms. O'Shea-Thomas-Smith-Ocana does not want to be associated with his crimes, she might consider removing herself from the activities of his companies. She might also have trouble disproving that she benefited from the $200,000+ that Ocana and Pollard cleared in the scam against me. She certainly can't disprove that she benefited by squatting in the atrosity of the home that Ocana left me stuck with, forcing me to evict her and incur even more cost.

The absurdity of her comments shows a disturbing lack of depth and ignores the basic fact: Tens of thousands of dollars were STOLEN from me. Other people are and will continue to be victimized, herself included.
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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Opinions are like *&*&*

AUTHOR: Adrienne - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, October 16, 2006
I met this lady Marcella for all of about 30 seconds when I handed her a bottle of water. Oh and online when I confronted her about sending my husband a topless photo of herself. She calls me a con? I have never had a traffic violation nor any criminal violations. I have never sold anything to her or her crones.

It is unfortunate that people can post things about other people to attack their character or demeanor with out proof or merit.

She said she filed criminal charges against me? I'd like to know, where because when I contacted local authorities where I live, they pretty much for lack of a better word described her as a mentally disturbed angry woman and advised me to get a restraining order against her.

She continues to stalk me through the internet. I have had to change my number 3 times to stop her harassment it seems to be the only way she thinks she can bother me. I said, thinks, cause she does not bother me!

Further more I have never received any money from her and saying I did is a bold face lie!

As for my name I was born with O'Shea my mom married Thomas and I got that last name when I was 3 months old. Ocana is husbands name and I am now known as Adrienne Oshea Ocana because I still use my given name hyphenated with my husbands. If that makes me a crook, then more than half married woman are crooks for keeping their maiden name...and prior to being with my husband, I used Oshea Thomas. So for those of you that this important information! I hope this clarifies it for you.

Bottom line I don't have anything to hide. Marcella is a crazy woman from Texas who attacks any thing that she believes will affect me and my family! But, when you deal with a woman that has mental issues, I take things she does or states as one with the mental problems that she has and been hospitalized with.

Friends of mine and I have proof of and slander, liable, stalking, harassment, ect. These are all criminal offences, and can assure you that she will shortly find out!

The only person's believing such "ONE SIDED" opinions, or a mental patient, are those that cannot understand what they read. Person's with education can first see the site her opinions are posted on and second, she does never provide physical proof of anything I have done or said to her! Because I have not!

Personally I feel sorry for her
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