Joey Smith Growing Giants, LLC Joey Smith did not deliver his coaching program Growing Giants and then refused to give a refund.If you go to the site there has been no activity there since September 2011 Internet

I have heard nothing from anyone about any help and now he has updated his website.

He took my $5000 for a program I did not agree to...Growing Giants was the program I signed up for not Coaching!! Joey Smith did nothing but bully and threaten me!

Why Joey Smith??????????????????????


DO NOT ENGAGE WITH JOEY! He thinks that he can throw big names at you..Do not be impressed!! JoeyReasons to Engage with Joey

Joey will guide your goals with his award-winning technology systems and “million-dollar producing” marketing systems.
 (1999, 2003 Microsoft Awards | 2010 Best Internet Marketer – World Internet Summit)  His expertise and 18 years of online experience will shave thousands of dollars of wasted time and add millions of dollars to your bottom line through his systematic speed of “time-tested” execution.  Joey uses cutting-edge strategies that work in today’s online environment and dedicates daily time to continual research in online technology, marketing and business systems.It’s important to understand that internet marketing is not just about graphics and design.  Just like with color analysis, there are complex behaviors, usability connections, patterns and NLP that work together in a symbiotic way.  All of which connects with words and color to create a predicted behavior.The complexities of successful online marketing have been compared by some to brain surgery.  Because really, that is what it is! 

Imagine trying to get someone you’ve never met before to do something from the other side of their keyboard (in another country even) using words, text, buttons, colors, audio and video to take an action!  This is why you wouldn’t want someone with little experience to operate on your brain or your online strategy for that matter.That’s why; if you want your online project to succeed at all costs, then Joey Smith is the guy to have on your team.  He’s created million dollar launches from scratch, helped a company achieve Fortune’s Fastest Growing Company status and helped create online strategies for businesses that have sold for 20+ million.  This is just a short list in his 18 years building online businesses for himself and his clients.Therefore, it should be no surprise that Internet gurus seek Joey’s private consultation, mentoring and coaching.  He always has a few on his “confidential” roster where he masterminds and strategizes on the internet’s greatest launches and debus.The difference between Joey and other Internet Marketing Service Providers is that Joey is a natural mentor and will mentor the team in order to be independent by the end of the engagement.  Service providers try to lengthen engagements whereby Joey does his best to shorten them and provide the best economical and “return on investment” producing engagement.His client list speaks for itself: Cox Communications, Coca Cola Enterprises, IBM, Internet Security Systems, Microsoft, Deloitte, Project Managers International (PMI), Shaw Industries, John Maxwell…

She is the only customer with this negative experience.  That's why you only see her report on here.

This particular client is sooooo vocal, you can't get a word in edge wise.  It's funny all the things she said, because it is only about 5% true.  The only truth is the price and the deal Joey Montez offered to her.  What she left out was:

1) She took up 15+ hours of our time (and 6 hours of Joey M's time)
2) She Never did her "coaching" work - week after week with excuses
3) Yes, she completed coaching calls, but just complained about the work

In other words, we did our end of the work, she just complained and did nothing. (she did everything else, but complete her assignments.)

The engagement was still valid, but she had to complete work to set up the next call.  She NEVER did the work.  Week after week, she just complained when the work wasn't complete.  So.  I stopped her calls until she could get the foundational work complete.

Joey M and I bent over backwards to make her happy.  As you can see by this report, she is one of these people.

Yes, I made sure she understood our policies.  In coaching, we can't give refunds when the client doesn't do their part. lol.  We did our part!

All of the above things she said were not even true and can prove it using our email threads.

If I have committed a felony, then why didn't I see the first cop?  That's what Judge Judy would say. lol  There were no crimes committed.  Only failed commitments by Sharon.  And from what I understand, this isn't the only one.

Coaching business is hard because of clients like this.  The coach can only show the door.  The client actually has to walk through.  If she would have just done the work, she would be saying what the others say below:

Here are two people who started on the exact date as her.  Here's what they have to say:

“In the world of Internet marketing, resources abound.  Some
helpful.  Some, not so much.  Establishing my Foundation and Internet
presence has required a huge learning curve for me, filled with new
opportunities. However I have never felt like I had a clear
understanding of the process and possibilities to be able to create and
implement an effective marketing plan…

Until Joey Smith came along…

Joey Smith has a vast expanse of Internet technology experience and
knowledge.  In our weekly phone meetings, he is able to show me exactly
what is happening with my website and how to improve it.  He does the
tech part, but explains it in a way that empowers me to do the work I
need to do. He is able to see the big picture and pull together the
fragments in a cohesive way, making the product stronger.

At his core, Joey is a mentor.  That is evident in his practical
approach and clear execution of action items moving us swiftly to the
next level.  His keen understanding of people, as you can see firsthand
in his Growing Giants program, increases his effectiveness.  He
understands what motivates and energizes us to do our best, while
providing resources to support the work necessary to achieve excellence.
If you are interested in learning about Internet marketing from a
seasoned professional and in optimally building your business, I highly
recommend investing time with Joey Smith and begging him to be on your
team at all costs!

He’s the real deal.”

Connie M. Baker
Executive Director
Wong-Baker FACES Foundation (Pain Rating scale in Medical Centers across the Globe!)
http://www.wongbakerfaces.org

(The lady above was also sold by Joey Montez" and told me she would provide any references to squash this BS)
__________________________________________

“To Whom it May Concern:

I’ve now been working with Joey Smith for about 2 months as a
coaching client and it’s been exactly the experience I was hoping for
(and more!).

I’ve been interested in building my own Internet-based business for
many years and have spent countless hours and dollars trying to figure
it out own my own.  For all of the knowledge I have attained, I could
easily teach a class on the subject, but had yet to develop an ongoing
successful business for myself.  I was able to make money here and
there, but never consistently and definitely not in a way that was
repeatable.

My experience with Joey has been EXACTLY what I was missing from my
other education experiences!  Joey has a defined process that helped me
to understand my personality type, which helped me to understand what
type of online business would fit my skills and interests the best. 
From there, he walked me through the process of finding a niche, then
figuring out how to best serve that niche.

Joey’s step-by-step approach not only helps you to build a successful
business but it also teaches you the all important “why”.  You learn
why to do things a certain way and at certain times.  Not only does this
approach help with understanding the process, it allows me to be able
to repeat the process as many times in the future as I wish!

The final piece of Joey’s system that has helped my success is the
accountability.  While I am the one doing the weekly work, having a
coach to report my progress to is a powerful motivator to make sure I
get the necessary work done in a timely manner.  Before Joey, I would
get overwhelmed with all that I had to accomplish and eventually give
up.  Now Joey helps me to break down the steps into manageable pieces so
I can focus only on the current task.

If you are looking to truly build a successful Internet-based business,
I would highly recommend that you give Joey a try!”

Wayne Foreman
Atlanta, GA
WaynesWoodworkingWorld.com

For more information on the program, go to: growinggiants.com/coaching

If anyone has concerns about this report, please send me an email and I'll personally send over the exact email trail between me and this client. (Since she went ahead and put this up, I'll gladly forward it over.)

If I was her, I would be concerned to see all of my emails posted here online.  You'll see in that trail that the irony is that she is scamming the scam report! lol

Again, this is a bitter customer that didn't do their work to keep the engagement going.  All the details of our policies and programs can be found on the above website.

We did not give her a refund.  I do have a "no-refund" policy on this type of coaching engagement because it requires my physical and "billable" time.

If you are interested in the coaching program and ran across this report, please go to the above website and contact me.  I'll share everything. :)

Just some things to  note about Sharon and this engagement:

- She had a long “voice to voice” sales process with Joey Montez
(he claims over six hours) - and she didn't know what she was getting!?!?

- You had plenty of time to decide and to ask questions before
the sale (buyers due diligence)

- You started the sessions with me and with Montez

- You never completed the first assignment (which is a
requirement for learning and coaching)

- After you perceived you were going to have to do work, you
started down the “refund-road” dead-end (why our policy exists)

- You changed your mind several times and “flip-flopped” over
and over again

- I continued to tell you there were no refunds, just do the
work and we’ll continue (you agreed and said "I know.")

- You complimented one of the courses (Deep 7) and said that
people would jump at the chance to work with me

- You referred the program to family and friends (even knowing
the refund policy and the details of the program at this time)

- I have clients that were sold the same thing you were that just “upgraded”
their involvement with me happily and would say you were crazy fighting me over
this instead of just learning the program to have an awesome online business
built around your strengths, passions and happiness!!!

MESSAGE TO SHARON: I hope your mindset gets better to understand why I’m not the
one in the wrong here.  By fixing that, you could end up fixing a host of
other things you aren’t happy with.  Hopefully that was worth your
investment.

Good luck to your future.  I sincerely wish for your
happiness.

Just to comment back to Mr Joey Smith. I am not a crazy woman. And you have again twisted the issues to make it seem that way. 

Why do you feel you have to post your testimonials to defend your position?
How about addressing the original issue? Which I could never get an answer to. What happened to the weekend plan?  I asked for the program in writing and I never received it.
Yes I did refer Family members. That is why I spent so much time speaking to Joey M!
The problem was,when I referred my brother,he was  given a different explanation of the program and a completely different price. But this did not get resolved.

I did the work. Joey wants it to sound like I never complete anything. I just did not send it to him because I could not get any answers to my questions.

It is very easy for this type of coach to blame the student and not look in the mirror. Joey Smith may be right for some people,but his style was not right for me.
I am now very happily working with a coach who kicks my butt,but also cares about her coaching students and does not do so by being a bully. 

Just make sure that if you do hire a "expert" you find someone who has integrity and is not only concerned with how many emails or how any hours they spend with you. $5000 is alot of money to pay someone for a coaching program that did not exist.

I hope that Joey put my $$ to good use. 

What's even more crazy is that you filed this RipOff report 90 days after our engagement was slotted to finish.

Why did you wait so long?

In any case, this issue is considered closed on our end and no further response will be issued.

It is regrettable that you didn't put forth the effort.  You surely would be singing a different tune if you had.

Since you attacked my character again, let me just leave another testimonial about that:

"I know, not an hour ago I told you that reviews and endorsements don't hold a lot of weight with
me. 

The reason that I believe this is different, is that I'm not suggesting or
endorsing a product.  I'm endorsing the person that I've experienced Joey
to be. 

In Atlanta, he was present and available. 
Online, he's been present and available.

That's important to me, because those aren't necessarily traits that I utilize,
at least with any consistency.  And that's another thing, my experience
with Joey has been that he's consistent. 

Mage - the majority of people that I came into contact with, felt that it was a
failure.  The failure had nothing to do with the software, it was the
buyer's commitment to it.  

In Epic's case, there were a lot of flaws (I'm not calling it a
failure!).  Joey never backed down.  He stood up for it in an
admirable way.  Each confrontation and complication, Joey GRACEFULLY
rolled with, smiled, and/or put an effort to correct the problems.  I
greatly appreciate his patience to work things out.

I think that if there's anybody out there who I'd have faith in teaching ME
something it would be Joey.  He's supportive and does his best to make
others successful."  --Joyfully Janet Caen

My fingers are still crossed for you.  Signing off.  --Joey