- Report: #814984
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Complaint Review: AOL & GoDaddy email
AOL & GoDaddy email770 Broadway # 4 New York, NY 10003-9558 Internet United States of America
AOL & GoDaddy email Negligent Blacklisting of My Home Computer and 19 others computers Emails Based on what email software I use. New York, Internet
*Author of original report: Correction Proof a Bigger Threat in Question
*Consumer Comment: I recomend you check out the site of the orginization he won't name.
*Consumer Comment: This guy is obviously a spammer...
*Author of original report: Response to Pro Blacklisting Rant
*Consumer Comment: More than likely
*Consumer Comment: Another rant?
*Author of original report: Update and Response to Replies
*Consumer Comment: Substantiation?
*Consumer Comment: Just an FYI.
Because of the complaint of my prospective client that AOL was putting my emails in Spam, I had to invest some time in finding out why.
It turns out that Billions of American consumers (including all of AOLs) are not being made aware that there emails are being scanned and culled for blacklisting by foreign blacklists companies that are selling and operating not only censorship for what people can write but also what software programs they are allowed to purchase and use for sending emails as well the most dangerous aspect, limiting how many people a person can communicate with.
This targets American Small business newsletters and mailers and squeezes the
The scam which according to the reports of the blacklisting company I traced as the one trigger of the blacklist by AOL, affects billions of users. Most of which are likely not aware that private companies are enforcing their own set of email behavioral requirements and shunning tactics.
A clue that they are operating a scam is the avoidance of disclosure of the true facts. They conveniently list a range or IPs rather than my specific IP leaving me no recourse of the claim of defamation. The UK foreign government, according to Spamhaus-ZEN, has a "Security for Cost" law it has implimented to make lawsuits against them pay up front a form of deposit.
thus it appears by their claims only wealthy can likely sue.
Thus rather than saying "you" (a single ip) have been blacklisted, they are saying "a range".
These blacklist implementations are likely done via AOLs firewalls, something similar to Cisco.
With billions of American businesses relying on the communication of contracts and daily business via the Internet, the scam allows false blame shifting that leaves a consumer victimized feeling that they cannot file suit unless they are wealthy enough to do it in the foreign country where the blacklist is located. The question of the negligence of a blacklist technology being used on US wires, however is simple to answer. These Internet wires are
If they are enforcing unfair competition and extortion based on blacklisting, AOL, whether they know it or not, is a party to it.
The scam claims the customers opted for blacklisting. Victims of the blacklisting (for whatever reason) often need to address and pay the foreign companies fees (according to a report I saw) as well as disclose private information and person/business details to overseas companies.
I have not seen anywhere where AOL has disclosed that people would be surrendering their freedom of speech, privacy or reputation.
To give an example of this limiting of speech, one firewall company touts it considers asking "were there really six million" as the criteria for blacklisting email content as spam. (A legitimate question in many commerce emails about shipment quantities as well as those about the true amounts of people that are estimated well above 6 million that died in the holocaust.
The scam is that people are led to believe the deletion and classification of emails is based on the attempt to eliminate illegal, spurious, or dangerous "spam". Can AOL shift responsibility for implementing the false logic that an email program or configuration denotes SPAM and defamation of a range of IPs? Correct me if I am wrong, but AOL has a responsibility by law to protect the personal details and information of customers. To scan inbound personal information for the sake of classifying whether a person believes in the count of a holocaust, for example, or to apply a shunning of legal communication because one uses a email program of their choice, is a Scam in my opinion.
Classifying my email as junk spam because I (or any of 19 other IPs the blacklist gave as a range) used an email program that was not main stream, touts that the responsibility for the decision to deploy filtering is not about SPAM at all. And the abscence of responsibility and untouchable legal recourse for a person of common means thorw up red flags a scam may well be at work.
The blacklist company answers in their frequently asked questions, that their blacklisting criteria even blocks people who have done nothing illegal as far as spam law. If the blacklisting company is correct about their billions of users, the scam I allege, reaches nation security proportions. One company can shut down entire sectors of communication with a single "spam" signature? In my opinion, I cannot see AOL handing this type of power over communication without knowing about the coercion of customers. It is highly unlikely in my opinion.
This "decision" by AOL therefore puts millions of their customer in jeopardy of "shut down" overnight at the whim of any of dozens of foreign companies, some in closed societies that shun, but also allows non national companies the ability to enforce written content limitations, scan and read US nationals emails. The world war saying, "loose lips sink ships" takes on a new light when foreign companies can pluck IPs based on content filters (searches of text).
The number of small companies and mom and pop stores entangled in frivolous blocking and paying fees to an overseas company because AOL is blocking or diverting to junk mail emails must be sizable, in my opinion.
Few AOL customers have knowing surrendered their right to receive legally generated non-spam emails from non mainstream programs. My client was one of them.
The allegation of "negligence" that AOL did not know this was happening or did not know that customers emails were being censured would be more difficult to believe than believing that they are part of a Scam of coercion, unfair competition, and tortuous interference.
I have no reason to believe treason would be a motivation at this time, but I also would classify censorship and blacklisting of Americans as removing it from the possibilities on the table.
There was talk of moving these blacklists over to the search engines which would further squeeze and shun American Companies and our economy. at this time I have not research nor am I aware whether AOL is apply this alleged Scam to page ranking and listings.
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