• Report: #970253

Complaint Review: Black Water Investment Group

  • Submitted: Fri, November 16, 2012
  • Updated: Sat, May 04, 2013

  • Reported By: Reese — Corona California United States of America
Black Water Investment Group
244 5th Avenue, suite R-2404 New York, New York United States of America

Black Water Investment Group Ann Hose Scammed money for Investment Funding New York, New York

*Consumer Comment: Another Victim

*Consumer Comment: Ann Hose

*Consumer Comment: Annnnd Another Thing..

*General Comment: I was scammed by Ann Hose too

*Consumer Comment: Just think about this!

*Consumer Comment: Ann Hose is solely responsible

*General Comment: liar

*General Comment: Ann Hose your day will come

*General Comment: Ann Is Still ripping people off?

*Consumer Comment: Ann Hose

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Reese

*Consumer Comment: Ann is Localgirl!!!!

*Author of original report: Update

*General Comment: corona reporter reese

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Ann Hose, supposedly a broker for the bogus company called Blackwater Investment Group, L.L.P supposedly located in New York, has taken funds from clients for said funding events for clients corporations, will not refund monies that was asked upfront, continues to fraud people, applying bogus names like Brad Schuller, president of Blackwater Investment Group, Caroline Fleming supposedly Attorney she has, non existent as is Brad Schuller has a bogus website with supposedly Brad Schuller http://blackwater-investment-group.com/ stay away from this company name and especially Ann Hose out of Hawaii.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 11/16/2012 01:39 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Black-Water-Investment-Group/New-York-New-York-10001/Black-Water-Investment-Group-Ann-Hose-Scammed-money-for-Investment-Funding-New-York-New-Y-970253. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Another Victim

AUTHOR: Scammed - ()

I was a client in the Blackwater scam too and never got a refund.  I have tried to contact Brad Schuller and Caroline Flemming (the attorney for Blackwater) without any response.  Is there anything we can do as a group to bring them to justice?  
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#2 Consumer Comment

Ann Hose

AUTHOR: Yankee75 - ()

Consumers,

Let me breakdown the facts here.  After being scammed for $500 by Ann Hose over six months ago nothing has changed.  Certain Banks ad Credit unions are getting tighter with more and  more requirements which doesn't help smaller business owners like myself.  SBA Loans are great but the process takes too long and nothing is guaranteed in the end. Private Capital is the way I went and it actually worked out despite the higher interest rate and short terms.  I was curious to know about Ann Hose and her operations since I was referred to her from a close friend whom of which received financing from one Ann's lenders in New York about one year ago.

After hiring a Licensed, Legitimate Private Investigator the following has came up; Ann Hose works with both legitimate lenders and those that are frauds.  She can perform with ACH Lending or Merchant Account Financing.  Those contacts are ok.  But for these so called hedge funds, bankers and private lenders, think again.  I  have a list of five different bank accounts that Ann uses to defraud her loan clients through.  Ann promises the world but then excuse after excuse.  I have a list of over forty five clients that have received refunds  from Ann that range from $250-$4000. 

She is also connected to one of the Pitch Men for Profitable Sunrise.  He is also a trickster looking to make a quick buck.  He has several aliases but the latest he is going by is Steve Crenshaw.  Ann has ties to some people that are connected to banks but these are not her direct contacts.  there is a chain to go through if you want concrete answers.  She is currently illegally funneling deals through three major banks as of now.  She sold credit cards from American Express to Palladium from JP Morgan Bank.  Well until her crew pocketed over $50,000 and didn't pay the middle man things went haywire. 

Ann is always ranting and raving and rushing to do things but then in  the end either there are no results or the outcome is a scam.  There is a Brad Schuller and a Mitch Campbell which have ties to other big banks and hedge funds but that was prior to the 2008 financial markets crashing.  Brad is out of the game of finance and Mitch works for hedge fund again in NYC.  Brad has health issues but for the amount of money that he's worth along with his family there should be no reason why he would be a banker unless it was for the sport of things.  I mean the guy  owns eight five star hotels in NYC.  I'm just saying.....

Paperwork has been floating around for several years that is fraudulent that claims to be from  some hedge fund that Ann Hose is in charge of or has close ties to.   It appears that Ann Hose was in the scheme of things attaching herself to legitimate companys as if she works there and what not.  All for an image.  There has been correspondence with both New York and Hawaii authorities.  Nothing can be done about this mess.

Police Report has to be filed, then charges need to be pressed, then you have to fly out to Hawaii  to go to court and waste more money on plane fare, hotel visit, taxi or rental car, food its just not worth it in the end.  Financial Crimes Units want people involved with larger schemes over $100,000 one crack not someone with a $500 case.  Sad but true.  Lesson learned is do  some simple research before working with any lender. 

Ann has been popped for fraud a decade ago.  She is a con artist that is still scheming.  A further update will be provided after I hear back from the authorities this week.  Everyone involved in the credit card scam with the AMEX Cards will go down too.  Ann Hose is the ring leader in this scam where my sister lost $5,000 in.  FYI Ann has six different e-mail accounts and several bank accounts and five different telephone numbers so go figure.

Be careful and do your research...!

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#3 Consumer Comment

Annnnd Another Thing..

AUTHOR: Victim#1000 - ()

If some of you that are reading this and have been scammed by Ann Hose are feeling like there is a little hope left then ask yourself these questions?

Have you been contacted by Ann Hose, Kilogram Inc., Blackwater Investments and Brad Schuller?
Have you recieved an email from anyone above offering to return your money?
Do you know of someone that has recieved a refund?
Has there been any kind of communication not listed above offering any kind of explanation?

If your answer is "NO" then you need to file a complaint immediately.  There are plenty of desperate people out there seeking alternative funding for thier business and there a company's out there that are legit but as it seems if it were that easy then everyone would be doing it. 

Lesson for the day is that you live and learn and if it seems to good to be true then it IS!! 

Last thought...  After further research; it seems that when Ann Hose was arrested she was in a drug program in prison and reported that she later became a counselor to those women that were addicts.  Kudos for that but I can't help but wonder why you would name your company "Kilogram Inc." when you were a coke/drug addict?

Ref: http://www.cca.com/static/hawaii/pdf/hawaiiNEWSLETTERINSERT2006.pdf

Although I did not invest that much money and I have spent that amount of money before with nothing to show for it and is not that big of a deal for me but I know that there are others that spent their last is what I am writing this for.

If anyone has the email and/or phone numbers for the Honolulu Police Department financial crimes division, please post on who to contact and report. Becasue this is definitley a financial crime as well as some sort of cyber crime, I would think.





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#4 General Comment

I was scammed by Ann Hose too

AUTHOR: joe - ()

victim 1000- you hit it right on the spot. she scammed me too. there were alot of suspicions about how she would do things. is there a way to contact you?
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#5 Consumer Comment

Just think about this!

AUTHOR: Victim#1000 - ()

How did Ann Hose use a New York Address.. Specifically 244 5TH Avenue, Suite R-204 New York, NY 10001
Well as it turns out anyone can use a 5th Avenue address using this service: http://www.nymail.com/ This is a paid virtual office that offers all sort of perks to include address, and suite numbers, to include voicemails and phone numbers.

Ann Hose is a true con-artist and deserves to be back in jail.  Just think that IF Brad Schuller really existed and my name as well as my company's name is being dragged through the mud then I would offer his behind up on silver platter ("IF he exists") and list off his contact information for him to be contacted directly and explain to all of these people that has given money.  As it stands there are very few numbers out there and the one listed in the email traffic form investor-relations signature block seems to be a automated voicemail.





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#6 Consumer Comment

Ann Hose is solely responsible

AUTHOR: Victim#1000 - ()

It is all true...  Ann Hose and Blackwater Investment (Brad Shuller) has ripped off at least 20 people to include myself.  These counts are what I know to be true as they are running these scams in every state or what they call "groups".  They have offered corporate credit cards and unsecure lines of credit for a range of fees.  The credit cards range from $1500 and upwards of 20k to include Amex centurion cards and other exclusive card brands.  The lines of credit were supposed to be part of a hedge fund that is "managed" by the non-existent Brad Schuller and the the charge was ($500) wired to Ann Hose company (Kilogram Inc.) By the way has several differnt routing numbers and one number was specific to a BOA account.  So yes, it is all true about Ann Hose and Blackwater Investment Group.  They have some pretty convencing paperwork that requires notary but after having it reviewed by several banking institutions and lawyers; all stated that it was too good to be true. There is also a police report filed in Hawaii listing Ann Hose as the scammer in this. We are follwing up on our legal recourse in this as it is almost certain that the funds will never be recovered.  In case there is any recourse for this comment will force me to release all documents and emails online.  So Ann if you are reading this (Try Me) becasue I have every single email from you as well as documents to support everyhting in this article.

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#7 General Comment

liar

AUTHOR: joe - ()

She is a liar
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#8 General Comment

Ann Hose your day will come

AUTHOR: AJ - (United States of America)

Keep doing what you are doing and KARMA will get you back. TRUST ME.  Resources tell me otherwise
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#9 General Comment

Ann Is Still ripping people off?

AUTHOR: joe - (United States of America)

Is it really true?
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#10 Consumer Comment

Ann Hose

AUTHOR: joe - (United States of America)

Are there any "ACURATE reports and facts on this person?
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#11 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Reese

AUTHOR: joe - (United States of America)

is there a way to contact you?
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#12 Consumer Comment

Ann is Localgirl!!!!

AUTHOR: RippedOff - (United States of America)

Ann Hose is obviously the one who wrote the first rebuttal, calling herself localgirl. Not only that, it clearly states that she is from Holualoa on google. Obviously Ann is scamming and stealing from people because back in 1999 there is an article in the Honolulu Star Bulletin about her as an inmate for bank fraud charges. Looks like to me that Ann Hose is back out in society doing the same old things that she THINKS she knows best (stealing money from innocent people).

Ann, if you are reading this, I'd like you to know that Karma will get you and not Reese. And Thank you Reese for posting this on ripoff report. Also Ann, please feel free to reply because I would love to hear what you have to say for yourself.

Have a great day!
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#13 Author of original report

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AUTHOR: Reese - (United States of America)

 No 1, whoever you are you need to get some knowledge of this situation, no. 2 you need to find out who your talking to first. And whoever Rick or Tracy Patis is you need to get from them who their clients are before you start throwing assumptions around, also Ann Hose has scammed a number of clients out of their money, or she would not be trying to return money to some of those people, get some facts.
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#14 General Comment

corona reporter reese

AUTHOR: localgirl - (United States of America)

First of all you have the wrong information, your complaint should have been against your broker which is tracy or rick patis in chicago, illinois...secondly, Ann does not take any fee you should really check your records before making false statements or slandering someone this will cost your company alot third , if you had really did your research then you would have realized that you mistakenly accused people that assist people with bad credit , why didn't you go to your local bank first of all?

do your research first do not assume ...do you know the real meaning of assume? its really making a a*s out of yourself....
Ronald Davis ....karma comes back as this world is not big enough to hide
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