• Report: #834665

Complaint Review: Goat Trimmers LLC

  • Submitted: Mon, February 06, 2012
  • Updated: Sat, February 25, 2012

  • Reported By: ripped off client — puyallup Washington United States of America
Goat Trimmers LLC
11402 Cowlitz DR SE Olympia, Washington United States of America

Goat Trimmers LLC Don Williams Lying Contractor Rips off customer Olympia, Washington

*Author of original report: Rebutted Comments From Lying Contractor Don Williams

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Goat Trimmers

*Consumer Comment: Goat Trimmers

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Goat Trimmers

*Author of original report: HOA Manager Mike

*Consumer Comment: Goat Trimmers

*General Comment: Good advice

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Goat Trimmers is a rip off contractor. Promised services they did not provide and lied to client about the performance and expectations for the job contracted.

Goat Trimmers LLC is a vegetation removal contractor that uses goats to remove black berry bushes. They also provide trimming services to cut down the vines so you can walk around job site.

I hired Goat Trimmers LLC to remove Black Berry bushes from the back yard of a rental home I own and was promised a 2 day job where the contractor would bring goats to property and employees to chop down the remaining vines.

Goat Trimmers brought the goats to the site and proceeded to leave the goats unattended for hours at a time causing us to herd the goats back onto the property. In addition the contractor failed to come to the property the next day (as promised) to finish the job. They failed to bring the goats back to the property or chop down the vines as promised.

We contacted Goat trimmers the following week to inquire about the job and was promised that the job would be finished. They failed to arrive and did not call to update us.

We spoke with Goat Trimmers the next day to tell them not to return to the property and to refund 50% of the contracted amount (800.00) to us for failure to complete the job. The owner (Don Williams) agreed to this arrangement and told us he would meet the next day to refund the money.

We have traded several call with Goat Trimmers owner (Don Williams) where he promised to meet with us and refund the money and he has not returned calls for days.

We have researched the company and they have 5 complaints with the BBB. They do not pay thier taxes to the state of Washington and have workers they are not paying L & I insurance for. Please stay away from this contractor and please note that Goat Trimmers is working for State Agencies in Washington and attempting to work in California and Oregon.

The owner, Don Willians is not an honest person and buyer beware if you choose to use his services.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 02/06/2012 11:50 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Goat-Trimmers-LLC/Olympia-Washington-98501/Goat-Trimmers-LLC-Don-Williams-Lying-Contractor-Rips-off-customer-Olympia-Washington-834665. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Author of original report

Rebutted Comments From Lying Contractor Don Williams

AUTHOR: ripped off client - (United States of America)

Saw the rebuttal from Don Miller on the site and want to share a additional report listed on Yellow pages review of Goat Trimmers LLC. 

Super Pages Review Goat Trimmers LLC   http://www.superpages.com/bp/Tacoma-WA/Goat-Trimmers-LLC-L2133119216.htm?&rwtab=1#BPreviewContainer

Looks like another client of Don Miller who made the mistake of paying in CASH. When Don Miller gets paid cash for a job it appears he has a pattern on not finishing a job. please review above  super pages review.

I would like to agree with Don Millers comments about the "bad comments" I made after he failed to follow his agreement to refund 400.00. Below are my comments.

  • Hi Don, Larry Foster can you call me to set up appointment to get my refund?


  • Hi Don, Larry Foster here when can I get a call from you to set up a time to meet and pick up my refund?


  • Hi Don, Why have I not heard from you concerning the refund for my job?
I am sure that no one would make such bad comments to a contractor that fails to live up to his word. I would ask that by reading the above review (linked above) consumers will be wary of paying Don Miller in cash at a minimum and consider doing business with this unethical person. Please contact me if you need additional information on Goat Trimmers LLC and Don Miller as I have more upon request.
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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Goat Trimmers

AUTHOR: Don - (United States of America)

I Don Miller met with Larry  of Puyallup at his Rental house in Bonnylake on the morning of Jan 28 with the goats and the fencing. We set up a fence and let 28 goats go to for the day as Larry and I discuss the job would take 2 days and we started on Sat am as the goats where eating I talked with Larry and signed a contract that says. Understanding Regarding the Nature of Goat-Based Landscaping Service.The use of live animals for landscaping is an inexact undertaking. Goats generally will only eat greenery, and thus Customer's property will not be perfectly landscaped after the Trimmers service.  Blackberry vines and other such non-green vegetation is typically leftover.  Also, the timing of completion is not exact since factors such as weather and other things beyond the control of Trimmers can affect how long it takes the goats to finish consuming all greenery.  In the event that the estimate is too short due to such factors, Trimmers is willing to extend the stays of the goats, although it may not be continuous due to other obligations.  Any such extension, additional fee or waiver thereof, will be at Trimmers' sole discretion.  Customer expressly acknowledges, understands and agrees to the foregoing in this paragraph As i told him the goats will eat the green but not the stocks so we will do some cutting to clean it up a little bit. As for leaving we did make a run to get some lunch as I told Larry we be right down the road to get lunch and be back .. He Joked and said ya right your going to the bar and we Laugh and I said I wish but we have to come back to watch goats. When we came back about a hr later Larry was still at the house doing some repairs and said everything was fine. So we did some cutting and then watched goats as it was getting dark Larry and his crew packed up and we stayed a while longer to watch goats. Before Larry left he told me that the neighbor had a Back h*e coming next Sat the 4th and he was going to have that guy dig and remove the roots from the ground..  We left Sat night about 8 pm when it started rain and Plan to come do some cutting on Sun. Sunday am it was rain pretty good so we stayed home until Monday. Monday 8 am my guy left the Barn to go cut, I goat a Call from Larry at 9am and ask what the plan was.. I told him my guys on his way to do the cutting. Witch is the second day of the job. My guy started cutting about 9:15 and cut all day. He left the Job at 5 as he was done doing the cutting. Few days latter Larry called and ask for $400 back because he had to pay the back h*e guy for removing the roots and the stocks the goats didn't eat. I told him NO and now he got mad and is saying bad stuff  about Goat Trimmers In 5 years we have done 526 Goat Clearing jobs and yes we cant please everyone and I'm sure some are unhappy as Larry said 5 complaints that's 1% of our costumers with I like to say its 0% but sometimes we can't please them all.  As for Taxes we have a CPA witch does out taxes every 3 month, called quartiles. Our taxes are up to date.
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#3 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: mike - (United States of America)

Mike Just wanted to let you know about how pleased I am with my experience with Goattrimmers. A year ago in July, I hired Goattrimmers to bring goats to clear property of brush and blackberries. This is a steep slope that would be dangerous to clear with manpower. You came and brought goats and it was awesome!  Fencing was put up around the area and the goats set to what they do best, eating EVERYTHING!  It took a few days to clear our property and the neighbors property next door. (They wanted it too once I told them what we were doing ) Neighborhood was in goat adventure mode. People came from blocks away to watch them effectively clear property. It was wonderful to watch and spend time with these little beauties. I learned so much about the perfectly green and effective way of clearing property of brush and blackberries. I highly recommend Goattrimmers, people love the experience and it's results are amazing. A year later the property is still clear.Teresa  Smith

Ps. Notice the goats are smiling in the photos :-)
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

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AUTHOR: Don - (United States of America)

I Don Miller met with Larry Miller of Puyallup at his Rental house in Bonnylake on the morning of Jan 28 with the goats and the fencing. We set up a fence and let 28 goats go to for the day as Larry and I discuss the job would take 2 days and we started on Sat am as the goats where eating I talked with Larry and signed a contract that says.             Understanding Regarding the Nature of Goat-Based Landscaping Service.The use of live animals for landscaping is an inexact undertaking. Goats generally will only eat greenery, and thus Customer's property will not be perfectly landscaped after the Trimmers service.  Blackberry vines and other such non-green vegetation is typically leftover.  Also, the timing of completion is not exact since factors such as weather and other things beyond the control of Trimmers can affect how long it takes the goats to finish consuming all greenery.  In the event that the estimate is too short due to such factors, Trimmers is willing to extend the stays of the goats, although it may not be continuous due to other obligations.  Any such extension, additional fee or waiver thereof, will be at Trimmers' sole discretion.  Customer expressly acknowledges, understands and agrees to the foregoing in this paragraph As i told him the goats will eat the green but not the stocks so we will do some cutting to clean it up a little bit. As for leaving we did make a run to get some lunch as I told Larry we be right down the road to get lunch and be back .. He Joked and said ya right your going to the bar and we Laugh and I said I wish but we have to come back to watch goats. When we came back about a hr later Larry was still at the house doing some repairs and said everything was fine. So we did some cutting and then watched goats as it was getting dark Larry and his crew packed up and we stayed a while longer to watch goats. Before Larry left he told me that the neighbor had a Back h*e coming next Sat the 4th and he was going to have that guy dig and remove the roots from the ground..  We left Sat night about 8 pm when it started rain and Plan to come do some cutting on Sun. Sunday am it was rain pretty good so we stayed home until Monday. Monday 8 am my guy left the Barn to go cut, I goat a Call from Larry at 9am and ask what the plan was.. I told him my guys on his way to do the cutting. Witch is the second day of the job. My guy started cutting about 9:15 and cut all day. He left the Job at 5 as he was done doing the cutting. Few days latter Larry called and ask for $400 back because he had to pay the back h*e guy for removing the roots and the stocks the goats didn't eat. I told him NO and now he got mad and is saying bad stuff  about Goat Trimmers In 5 years we have done 526 Goat Clearing jobs and yes we cant please everyone and I'm sure some are unhappy as Larry said 5 complaints that's 1% of our costumers with I like to say its 0% but sometimes we can't please them all.As for Taxes we have a CPA witch does out taxes every 3 month, called quartiles. Our taxes are up to date.
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#5 Author of original report

HOA Manager Mike

AUTHOR: ripped off client - (United States of America)

Mike

I would ask you to ask Don Miller (3) pertinent questions.

  1. Did you agree to a 50% refund with the customer for failure to complete work as promised?

  2. Did you stop returning calls to the customer after repeating promise to refund 400.00?

  3. Did you leave fencing on the jobsite that the customer had to remove at his own time and expense so that a back h*e could access the property?
I would encourage you to contact Kevin Galloway ( my tenant) to confirm these facts about the services rendered. kgallowaysr@gmail.com 

I am happy that you have had a good experience with Goat Trimmers LLC to date but with additional internet searches you will find other clients that have been treated in a similar fashion. My intent is to prevent other consumers from being ripped off by this contractor. Don Miller  CAVEAT EMPTOR = BUYER BEWARE
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#6 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: mike - (United States of America)

I use Goat Trimmers 2 times a year for our HOA for the last 4 years now in Puyallup. I have nothing bad to say about them. We at the HOA plan to use them again this year and cant wait for the Spring to come so we can enjoy the goats. I think for someone to post a negative comment about Goat Trimmers is making a wrong sta. We have receved Goat Trimmers name from an HOA in Gig Harbor that uses Goat trimmers as well and will back up the work they do. After im done with this post I will be letting the other HOA know about this Post as for the owner of Goat Trimmers.

Mike Jones

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#7 General Comment

Good advice

AUTHOR: Jusme - (United States of America)

You have the owners name wrong. It is Don Miller
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