Marcia Mobley BayLake Doodles Owes $7500+ for breeder, didn't return dog, started harrassing my family & friends with outrageous lies concerning myself Orlando Florida

I am not Maureen, so I do not know why you are posting a rebuttal to my report.  

To respond to your rebuttal please read thoroughly.  

Note one  Marcia Mobley's attorney notified me he no longer represents her on this matter.  

Note two  His notification on this matter states he has not had any issue concerning his doodles.

Note three     He did submit an agreement to me, it did not outline our agreement, it outline a new one Marcia wanted to change the terms to which I refused, as our original agreement will stand in court.

Note four As of today December 11, 2014, No tests results have been received by Southern States Australian Labradoodles on Southern States Carly, she has supposedly been placed in a co-owner home in order that I am unable to locate her or reclaim her, Marcia Mobley is in default on the Agreement which exists between us, testing is a part of the agreement, location of Carly is a term as well as trade/payment terms. I have been denied trades selected. At this time I am relieved as the parents of said selected puppy have no testing, the father of the sire has not been tested and this has been verified.    Per Marcia Mobley's exact words to me "I don't test my dogs if there's been one on a grandparent, parent, etc."  If you are a breeder and are using her studs without getting copies of testing results SHAME ON YOU, unless it is Acadian's Tee Red Bayou, which I have all the testing, whom she purchased from me, not for $9000.00, purported by Marcia in the Ripoff report dated Dec.6th, that statement is an outright lie.  The reason she refused Maureen stud service from Acadian's Tee Red Bayou is strictly because she did not want Maureen to use him and she asked me to change her contract to restrict stud service, her rebuttal to the Ripoff report dated Dec.6th, is an outright lie.  I have all the email back-up documentation to pursue this breach of contract.  Marcia Mobley threatened me not the other way around, so know your facts.

Please note I have been involve in numerous legal matters for a Fortune 500 Company, happens to be one of the top 2 in the World, whom I worked for 20 years.  I am very detailed, I have any and all documentation to backup any statement.  Currently I am working with three attorneys.  I haven't an issue taking this all the way to the mat.  

You do not have the courage to even put your name on your rebuttal.  Marcia Mobley wouldn't even talk to me directly just contact my family and tried to harm me personally and damage my business which constitutes libel and slander.  As a member of ALAA I have proven I follow good breeding practices and all my dogs have been tested and meet above grade standards.

Marcia Mobley can you make this same statements and provide the written documentation, you don't have to belong to ALAA, just prove testing with written documentation?

adding to my post....

Shame on Maureen, the owner of CFL Labradoodles that she stooped this low in using this site to try and discredit Marcia Mobley.  As the saying goes, don't believe everything you read.....do your homework, research not only the breed but the breeder and make your own conclusion.  Marcia Mobley produces healthy, happy, loving, and well socialized puppies, I should know, I own a couple and have used her studs for my breeding program and would never allow the breeding of one of my females to a dog that was untested, ie; hips/elbows,Eye Cerf, thyroid at the least.  This is a case of SLANDER at it's best.

 asked her to sign it and she refuses ALL IT WAS DOING WAS ASKING HER TO CONDUCT BUSINESS WITH ME THE WAY IT STARTED OUT. SHE WAS TO GET A PUPPY IN TRADE IN FOR CARLY, AND SHE REFUSED TO SIGH THE DOCUMENT , it also stated I agreed to that and would stand behind it, when she refused to take a puppy in April 2014 she was offered another puppy from a later litter which I had no problem with, AS STATED BY ME AND THE CO OWNER OF THE MALE PUPPY SHE WANTED FROM ME, THERE WAS NO WAY I COULD BREAK MY CONTRACT WITH THE CO OWNER OF THE STUD, SHE KNOWS THIS HOW IT IS IN THE TRADE WORLD OF PUPPIES AND AND SHE DID NOT GET TO PICK THAT PUPPY, going round and round about this is useless as Marcia Ellen Skiff just does not get it, My attorney contract was protesting her and me at the same time, she refused to agree to it, so there not much more that can be done here, CARLY WAS A TRADE NOT A SALE, A SALE REQUIRES MONEY EXCHANGED AND SHE FAILED TO EVER SEND A CONTRACT TO ME OF THAT NATURE AND I WOULD HAVE NEVER AGREES TO BUY HER, AGAIN A TRADE IS FOR A TRADE NO MONEY EXCHANGED, BREEDERS DO IT ALL THE TIME, you can not change the game later because you did not get a puppy you thought you wanted and further more that Puppy has Sammy as a Grandfather and she did not want a Sammy breeding as he is Cockapoo, so that settles that dispute Also the nature of accusing me of NOT testing my dogs is completely untrue !!! We do test for Patellas, Heart and Hips amd more PRA, one puppy she got from me was Little Bit of Oreo last yr and I went on Proven Parentage as some of us breeders do, If she wants to state I never test my Dogs, that is NOT TRUE and we have tests done all time, If you give her 1 statement she takes it and applies it to every dog I have, this is complete waste of time as one of Vets that visits me has seen all my testing on my dogs so that he could take 2 pups home, I have provided and proved to 8 vets in local area and Ft Lauderdale and SC testing results as 8 vets have my dogs over years The remarks Ms Skiff makes are not correct and no one should have to defend themselves about these kind of things as I have produced Outstanding Doodles, Labs and Poodles over last 26 yrs That is why I am a very popular Breeder in Fla and always will be

 I do not have to defend myself any longer against her Strange postings and statements, It is clear how my friends and Buyers feel about me ay Bay Lake Doodles and to get in a tit for tat is no longer necessary as there are Rebuttals on here that make it pretty clear that Marcia Ellen Skiff is one angry lady at me and I feel its stupid to carry on with her as that is what she likes to do in her life, I have better and bigger things to do with my time now and do not care to anymore, I offered a puppy to her out of a litter that was not reserved as that Pup she said I refused her was explained in a Rebuttal from Bruce Knox and that is enough said as far as I am concerned

Unfortunately, this is not about return of deposit.  This is about the conditions of sale/trade and as you say you know both of us and you know of this agreement then you would also know Marcia Skiff advise Marcia Mobley she wanted a puppy from this litter prior to confirmation of pregnancy, however after mating.  After pick it was denied out of Marcia Mobley's retribution over a totally different situation involving another FL breeder.

Marcia Mobley advised Marcia Skiff she only tests her dogs if she doesn't have testing on the parents, but subsequent  hold back isn't necessary as she is not a member of any organization, she is a rebel, she does things her way.  My contract clearly state testing is required. The sire's Excellent test scores and his breeder was listed as breeder were posted as Carly's and Marcia Skiff called Marcia Mobley on it and it was removed.  Please know your facts.

Unbiased breeders that are aware of the facts would know that this is not about any type of anything other than clearing any attempt of smear tactics and getting a contract fulfilled.  Marcia Skiff received numerous threats from Marcia Mobley which is documented to post outlandish stories.  She posted an outrages story that totally false on Doodle Breeders Forum.

As I have explained in numerous emails, know your facts, #1 I did not ask to borrow $600.

The puppy I requested as trade is clearly stated on website breeder 1st pick

Contract drawn up by Mr. Barnett was an assumpt of facts not agreed upon, just Masrcia Mobley's assertion of her wants.

Marcia Mobley bully's by sending emails with threats and contacts family members, business associates and they do not validate what she says to them.

This will be heard in court and the court will decide who owes what, She needs to come to the table and deal fair and square and not like "Street wize" like she told me.  I handle things legitimatly, not in the street.

CONTRACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AND MY DOG IS NOW OFF HER WEB SITE.  SHE NEED TO SEND HER BACK TO ME IMMEDIATELY.  AS AN ATTORNEY AND A REPRESENTATIVE AOF THE COURT YOU SHOULD REVIEW FACTS.

Its unfortunate this complaint is from one dog breeder about another.  Too bad HOW TO LOVE is not a learned behavior from our Canines.  I too am a dog breeder and know both of these ladies.  These accusations against Marcia Mobley are without warrant.  Marcia Mobley is a long time reputable breeder, comapssionate, as well as ethical.  I have known of a few situations where Marcia Mobley was more than fair when having to make good on an isuue concerning one of her pups/dogs. Most of us breeders have a clause NON REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT in our contracts that protect the consumer as well as we the breeder.

Of course as the consumer, when you place a deposit and then change your mind and want your money back and the clause comes into play, NON REFUNDABLE. the consumer decides to file a complaint; RIP OFF COMPLAINT (not warranted)  As breeders we all do things a little different and what works the best in our breeding program may not work best for another. We also as breeders want things done our way and think what we do is best, hence the reason for this complaint againt Marcia Mobley.  Marcia Mobley came to the financial rescue of Marcia Skiff going above and beyond breeding aquaintences. 

The help has not yet been returned.  Marcia Mobley has asked for it numerous times.  WHO IS BEING UNFAIR?  As breeders in a trade situation; puppy for puppy, we ask that the receiving party (the other breeder) give ample notice when wanting their pick puppy from an upcoming litter not after the dogs have been bred and a wait list has been started.  As a breeder it is unethical to tell a family in line for a puppy, have paid their deposit that they are being bumped down on the list because a puppy is now being selected by another breeder, although due a puppy of her choosing, it has to be done and noted up front when the litter is planned. This is also called "common sense". 

Because Marcia Skiff wanted a certain puppy never noted early enough, Marcia Mobley offered another upcoming litter as the litter Marcia Skiff wanted her puppy out of had already been allocated. Marcia Skiff was not a happy...thus the reason she has filed a rip off complaint against Marcia Mobley.  This is nothing more than.... I'LL FIX YOU......Its sad we can't play together nicely in the sand box like our Labradoodles do.  Let's lick our wounds, move on and continue to breed Happy, Healthy, loving, family companions as well as Therapy Dogs as the breed was intended.  DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO DO UNTO YOU.  LIFE IS TOO SHORT FOR THIS NONSENSE!!!!!

  Bill Barnett I am Marcia Mobley's friend and attorney. I have practiced law in the Orlando area for 47 years and have the highest ratings for Legal Ability and Ethical conduct -AV- from Martindale Hubbell law directory. I have also been honored to be included in the BAR BOOK OF PREEMINENT COUNSEL. I have purchased three doodles from her OVER THE LAST 8 YEARS, and have referred many friends and relatives to her. All transactions went off without a problem. Marcia Mobley has an excellent reputation for fair and honorable dealings . Many of Central Florida's most prominent citizens are happy customers of this wonderful , ethical breeder. As she said I did draft a document for her outlining her transactions and a resolution between her and Marcia Skiff which Ms. Skiff found unacceptable and refused to sign. She has my permission to publish this statement.

  From : 10/24/14 Bill Barnett I am Marcia Mobley's friend and attorney. I have practiced law in the Orlando area for 47 years and have the highest ratings for Legal Ability and Ethical conduct -AV- from Martindale Hubbell law directory. I have also been honored to be included in the BAR BOOK OF PREEMINENT COUNSEL. I have purchased three doodles from her OVER THE LAST 8 YEARS, From Bay Lake Doodles,and have referred many friends and relatives to her. All transactions went off without a problem. Marcia Mobley has an excellent reputation for fair and honorable dealings . Many of Central Florida's most prominent citizens are happy customers of this wonderful , ethical breeder. As she said I did draft a document for her outlining her transactions and a resolution between her and Marcia Skiff which Ms. Skiff found unacceptable and refused to sign. She has my permission to publish this statement.

I have known Marcia for about 3 years now. I originally bought a Golden Doodle who is an awesome dog. I had gone to visit Marcia and she had a Labradoodle that she was keeping for her breeding program. We entered into a co-ownership agreement and I named him Cooper. He sired the litter with Biscuit and the agreement that I made with Marcia from the time we bred the 2 is that I would take the pick of the litter. I went 4 weeks ago and picked a Red and white "mis-mark" because it looks the most like Cooper. Marcia Mobley has done nothing wrong and she is only upholding our contract. In the co-owner contract I was to receive either the proceeds of 1 puppy or the pick of the litter, of course I chose the pick of the litter. I completely verify everything pertaining to this litter and exactly what Marcia Mobley is saying to be true. I have never known her to lie about anything. 

In the 3 years that I have known Marcia, I have seen her bend over backwards to her clients but moreover for her dogs to the detriment to the business. She truly places her dogs and clients ahead of personal gain.  

Marcia Skiff sounds like a bully who is upset that she is not getting what she wants, in this case what she wants is what she can't have. If Marcia Skiff was honorable, why not just sign the documents and accept what Marcia at BayLake offered and take another puppy of her choosing down the road... Why not, so much time and many puppies have been bred since this all started. 

It seems to me that Marcia Mobley has gone above and beyond to try to find a reasonable solution to the issue. Ms. Skiff is being unreasonable and malicious. 

 I want to clarify a few things about Marcia Mobley at Bay Lake Doodles, I have know her for 15 yrs or longer, we bred English Labradors together , Marcia Mobley has a great reputation in Fla and her customers are Mayors, Lawyers, Vets that we sold to, Gov , Dr. & State attorney office, many many Business Owners in Orlando famous Celebrity's, Magic Player, Professional Golfer , and Miss America has 2 of her Doodles so there is a lot to be said about her integrity and more, when she told me she was having problems few months ago with a Lady in Tenn called Marcia Skiff, HER FIRST SCARE WITH THIS MARCIA SKIFF WAS WHEN SHE SPENT COULE DAYS AT MARCIA MOBLEY HOUSE WHEN Marcia Mobley Called me that afternoon and said , Please help me Bev this lady was asleep on my couch and was talking in her sleep and gromling and saying " I WILL GET YOU NO ONE F---------- OVER ME DO YOU HEAR ME I WILL GET YOU - I could not believe some of things this lady is saying & doing - Marcia Skiff of Tenn admittedly and opening told Marcia Mobley she was bipolar and there where many times her husband wanted to have her committed so I am sure if it was admitted by Marcia Skiff it has some wt here, I am concerned for Marcia Mobley's well being now. Marcia has spent and paid me for 8 Labradors and we bred some Labradoodles together, we are talking about approx. $ 12,000.00 and I have never never had to ask her to pay me she was normally paid ahead on purchases, however We also did Puppy Trades as far back as 1999 and yrs 2000 and 2004 and 2005 and 2006, 2008 my concern because I am also a Private Mental Health Counselor, she consulted me many of times over last few weeks, telling me this particular Lady making statements that she owes her money now is Simply not going by the VERBAL CONTRACT they had concerning a PUPPY TRADE, Marcia Skiff of Southern States Doodles is mad at her for not letting her take a puppy that was picked at birth by the other Co Owner of the Stud dog in this litter, its not ETHICAL to ignore the co owner and not provide him with the pick he wants, I do know Marcia of Bay Lake offered her a puppy out of any other litter and that fact she asked for a puppy into a 4 week old pup that was already promised, is not the right way to do business. Marcia Mobley has told me of the tings Marcia Skiff has done by calling her late at night, threatening another breeder also, I have to comment that there is a serious problem here with Marcia Skiff and her ability to threaten other breeders and or people she comes in contact with, not knowing her personally, I have to put my faith on Marcia Mobley at Bay Lake due to the fact and they are facts that Marcia Skiff changed her business names and her personal name obviously hiding who she is and I find that strange. Marcia Mobley at Bay Lake has given her two dogs , Lil Bit of Oreo and Emmy a dog she agreed to co own with Marcia Skiff - now I am being told Marcia Skiff does not want to use Emmy and will not return her to Marcia Mobley, so the table is turned here and the comments other breeders have written Marcia Mobley and I have had privilege of reading them, is that MARCIA SKIFF of Tenn Southern States Doodles, has not paid other breeders for dogs, has been a nightmare to work with and a real problem so I feel Marcia Mobley having gotten an attorney and asking Marcia Skiff to sigh documents that she agrees Marcia Mobley can let her send a Puppy in trade for the Carly dog, and also send back a Co Owned dog named Emmy she does not want to breed and not own any longer and also Pay back the Loan Marcia Mobley gave her in her need at the time, that is how Marcia Mobley is, if you are here friend she will give to you and its a shame Marcia Skiff was never her friend but a taker. This is my Professional & Personal Opinion and observation of this situation that Marcia Skiff wants to accuse Marcia Mobley of owing her money when the opposite it true.

 Time to Pick  a Puppy. She flew in from Tenn and stayed at my home for 2 nites and 3 days and decided she did not want the Puppy from Lucinda x Fudge Litter but rather at that time she took home a Puppy called Emmy to Co Own with me, she said she would pick a Puppy at later date. Nowafter 8 months she is claiming I owe her for a Puppy that we agreed to exchange in a puppy trade and this is not true, It was a trade only and she failed to type a Contract in this regard, However from the time she left my home until  recently she was acting strange and I felt I had to do back ground ck on her and find out more about her, when I did I was shocked to know she has attempted to sue other Breeders, lie to other breeders and deny she has done anything wrong, It was very concerning to me that she woke up at my house and started talking strange in her sleep about she was gonna get me and nobody screwed over her , this scared me, when she left on plane that day I was concerned I was not dealing with someone with a full deck,  other breeders told me and there are 3 of them that she will never pay for a dog, but will instead threathen them with law suit,  This information came from people that have been used and abused by her and it is a known fact now that she has to take medication as she has a serious bi polar problem and does not and will nto admit to anything, she has threathened a Breeder friend of mine with lawsuits and denied it. So now I am on her want list  and she is NOT TELLING THE WHOLE TRUTH IN HER RIP OFF REPORT 

BEFORE I TYPE THE FACTS, Marcia Ellen Skiff called me to LOAN her $  600.00 and told her I could not loan that but would send her 300.00 and when I did she promised to pay it back in August 2014 ad now refuses to, I have been asking for the money and so has my attorney

I have an Attorney that filed a Demand Letter to her  Nov 16th 2014 and she said she would not sign it

HERE ARE THE FACTS : MARCIA ELLEN SOLD ME A DOG  called Lil Red for 9,000.00 and I made first 2500.00 -7/2013  payment on receipt of him, she called me in Dec 2013 and said howwould you like for me to reduce price to 6,000 for you IF YOU CAN SEND ME 3.000 RIGHT NOW BEFORE JAN 5TH 2014 AND I SAID YES Ii COULD DO THAT AND I DID, I made her sign a paid in full on him . She called me asked me if I would trade a Puppy for her Puppy Carly and I said yes I would, she flew here on April 2014 and whn she came she decided to wait and do a trade later, but take Emmy above. as co own only with me. Now comes harrassement and more from her late night phone calls and bizarre behavior

Keep in mind there was never a COntract from her on Puppy Trade for Carly but a puppy trade only done verbally, she now says I refused to give her a Puppy she wanted on line that I posted, THAT PUPPY WAS ALREADY PROMISED TO BRUCE KNOX OF KNOX NURSERY IN ORLANDO AFTER IT WAS BORN AS HE IS A CO OWNER WITH ME ON THE STUD DOG COOPER AND HE WILL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO VERIFY THAT, SHE WAS MAD, I told her I could noyt let her have that one but she could pick from another litter but now she is saying I refused to give her a Puppy. And this is not true

her facts are not true, and sadly I feel bad that she has some issues with her Mental Stability, but I am not the only Breeder that has had to deal with her lies and misgivings . I will b  glad to furnish statements from other Breeders that refuse to do businee with her now and has multiple problems with her.