• Report: #887105

Complaint Review: Nys national youth sports San Diego

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  • Submitted: Wed, May 23, 2012
  • Updated: Sun, January 20, 2013

  • Reported By: Nys sucks — Chula vista Internet United States of America
Nys national youth sports San Diego
No San diego, California United States of America

Nys national youth sports San Diego Nys has forfeited our junior high team for stupidness San diego, California

*Consumer Comment: So..ur team cheated and ur upset about it?!

*Consumer Comment: bitter customer

*Consumer Comment: Volunteer coach has no place to comment on football

*Consumer Comment: truth on application

*Consumer Comment: A more accurate account of what really happened.

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Nys sports has ripoff our San Diego Island warriors football team because of a 9th grader on the team. First he is 14 and of age, second he is homeschooled so none of us new he was in high school. Even though by law he is allowed to play because he is 14 yrs old. They forfeited the games we have played with him so we went from undefeated to 2-3. The player was not an important addition to the team either. Then the league decided to cut our team from the roster because our team won too much and nobody could beat us. They did this to "give the other teams fair game and competition. Also we are aware that 2-3 of the other teams have or had played with 9th, 10th, and 11th graders. I advise you to not join the league in any sport

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/23/2012 01:40 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Nys-national-youth-sports-San-Diego/San-diego-California-91910/Nys-national-youth-sports-San-Diego-Nys-has-forfeited-our-junior-high-team-for-stupidness-887105. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

So..ur team cheated and ur upset about it?!

AUTHOR: shouldbetheleastofyourworries - (United States of America)

I've been with NYS for about 5 yrs now, the guy running the show has his pros and cons:
Pros: he's been with the company for at least 5 yrs (since I've seen him around since my son joined the league), he treats us coaches/parents good and is complementing the kids on their performance. (as a parent I appreciate that). he means well for the program and has made changes to improve the overall player/parent experience in that particular league.
 
Cons: he's NOT a football guy, he's more of a soccer/ baseball guy. he's running the show by himself (so I can see why he reached for help, ei: volunteer coach..which by the way the guy didn't just go to some "avg joe" to ask about this situation, from the coach's opinion in comment #1, he/she is an aducator, so the NYS coordinator was gathering the facts to make a decision). Another negative, they allowed that "coach" --who got into an altercation a couple of years ago AND tried to cheat in a developmental league!-- to coach again tsk tsk tsk...
The league made the right decision so quit complaining.. it makes u and ur team look bad bitching that they got disqualified for using a HS kid.

just for the record: their registration forms do say that the division is for ages 11-14, GRADES 6-8;
my son played Soccer and now plays tackle..... just sayin'.
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#2 Consumer Comment

bitter customer

AUTHOR: mtmklp - (United States of America)

This fat ass bitch is just a bitter customer that never got her way. The above mentioned has been coaching for over 2 years in NYS and also is a former supervisor and educater and understands how to handel tough situations like the above complaint.
 
This is way the director and former director has come to her for her OPINION. If you read her post you will see she asked him what Corp. stand was on the above complaint. At first they allowed this player to play then after hearing that the boy was in 9th grade the acted on it.

People needed need to have all the facts before the go around telling people to mind their bussiness  when they can't mind their own.  The above was asked her opinion and she gave it making it her bussiness.  
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#3 Consumer Comment

Volunteer coach has no place to comment on football

AUTHOR: stfualready - (United States of America)

First off: The previous comment has no merit, because this volunteer
coach children play soccer, not football. NYS shouldn't be confiding to
her what she thinks her opinion is. This is why you are suppose to be a
coordinator, handle issues yourself. Further more NYS has gone down the
drain since previous coordinator has left, and was replaced with someone who has no idea
what he is doing. Im sure he can always count on his main man, the nosy soccer coach
This person has no opinion on the events that happened, and frankly needs to mind her own BUSINESS!
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#4 Consumer Comment

truth on application

AUTHOR: blueshoes - (United States of America)

the NYS application has the date of birth for which, if you were born before, you are not eligible to play.  It is not by grade, that would be AYF youth football.  San Diego NYS has often had players sandbagging into lower division levels to strengthen up a team.  A coach was caught, and the team forfeited the games the ineligible player participated in. No big deal, punishment fits the penalty.  Now, if you look at the coach in question and his previous altercations within the NYS system, this is a disappointing issue because he is still participating in the league.  Don't understand, google fight, san diego youth football 2011.  
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#5 Consumer Comment

A more accurate account of what really happened.

AUTHOR: klpmtm - (United States of America)

Let me first say I feel bad for the players of this team that had games forfeited because of this unfortunate situation. However, this complaint should be directed towards the parents of the child AND the coach who knowingly knew the child in question was in fact a high school student.  

I have been a volunteer coach for NYS for over 2 years and have had a lot of time to see all the positives and negatives of this organization.  And I must say that there are way more positives than negatives.  With that said, I am a homeschooling parent myself and at the beginning of the season in question I received a phone call from the NYS League Director asking me how I know what grade my daughter is in if I choose to home school. He explained that there was a boy in question that wanted to play football for NYS he was at the "right" age but possible not at the right grade level.  I asked the director what the NYS policy was regarding football and I was told it's determined by grade level and not age.  I also recommended that he contact corporate NYS in AZ to see what they had to say.  A week or so later I happened to ask the league director what corporate said and he told me again that it's determined by grade level. And since the boy in question was supposedly home schooled in another country and recently moves to the US they were going to trust that parents and coach and go by what they said.

A little over half way through the season I heard that there was some suspensions being handed down in the football league.  It turns out the boy in question, his parents enrolled him in High School out here and lied to NYS. And from what I understand the coach was made aware of this by other football players, yet he chose to ignore and/or hide the fact rather than come forward with the information. And like I mentioned before the rule is the child who plays, the league they play in is determined by grade level.  And the division that this complaint is written about is a Middle School Division, NOT High School.  

So while it stinks, NYS made the right decision in it's disciplinary actions and should not be blamed because of parent's and coaches bad  and deceptive decisions.  As for the comment about NYS cutting the team from the roster because they won too much. That's hilarious.  That is not the case and it's just the parents and coaches being bitter because their team got caught cheating.

As for  other teams having or "had" 9th, 10th, or 11th graders on their team I have 2 things to say about that. 1.) Not that it's any of their business but I also know that another team was disciplined for the same season for the same type of behavior and 2.) The past shouldn't be brought up because the season in question has a new League Director who is enforcing the rules.  And it's quite possible that the parents and coaches are just mad because it's possible previous director either overlooked the rule infractions or they didn't know about them.  Either way the League director is not responsible for past directors decisions or lack of knowledge.

So again, while I feel bad for the kids and parents who were misled by the coachof this team and the parents of the boy, this "Ripoff Report"  has not basis or merit and should not even be considered when you are thinking of joining a sport with NYS.

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