• Report: #718790

Complaint Review: Paul Mush~Sales Team 1

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  • Submitted: Sun, April 17, 2011
  • Updated: Wed, February 08, 2012

  • Reported By: Oklahoma based company — oklahoma city Oklahoma USA
Paul Mush~Sales Team 1
145 Corte Madera, California Internet United States of America

Paul Mush~Sales Team 1 Scam Artist, Con Man, Internet

*Author of original report: I recieve calls on this CON_MAN

*Consumer Comment: The Real Truth

*Author of original report: I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU!!!!

*Author of original report: Superior Exterior

*Consumer Comment: Sales Team 1 Did exactly as promised and grateful I found them

*Consumer Comment: Agree

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Anonymous slander

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What ever you do~DO NOT give PAUL MUSH money!  He is slick.  He will call everyday until he gets ssyour money!  He gives you all kinds of stories and lines on what he can do to help you build your sales team. 

Our company paid him$5K and never heard from him again.  The minute he recieved our 5 thousand dollars the only thing we talk to was an answering machine!  I would like to know how this can even be legal!

Like I said do not give him your money.  He also gave someone our company phone #, and they said they doing a refrence check on Paul.  Wanted to know should they use Paul.  I exlianed NO!!!!!!!!!!  I have never recieved another call.  Maybe it was Paul checking to see what we might say.

DO NOT GIVE PAUL MUSH~SALES TEAM 1 ANY MONEY.  IT IS A SCAM!!!!!!

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#1 Author of original report

I recieve calls on this CON_MAN

AUTHOR: Oklahoma based company - ()

So glad to know that you got away from this con-man.  We gave him 5K to build a sales team for us.  He cashed the check and that was the last conversation we ever had again.  We receive regular phone calls in our office with people wanting to know more about Paul.  We have advised every single person DO NOT hire this CON MAN.  And we will continue to tell every person that calls. 

Good luck, and hope you find a place to work.  Feel free to give us a call if you are interested, we are located in OKC.

Superior Exterior

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#2 Consumer Comment

The Real Truth

AUTHOR: KarmaBitesYou - ()

I got recruited by Paul Mush to sell on one of his sales teams recently. The real truth as I see it is that this guy is most likely the most evil person I have ever encountered in all of my years selling.

He uses extremely high pressure tactics to recruit his sales reps and then he teaches them to outright lie on the phone. He calls this "acting".

His training sessions are mostly about how great he thinks he is but some of the time spent listening to this monster involves very sophisticated psychological manipulation. He brainwashes his sales reps to be totally obedient to him or he fires them immediately. If you question one word he says you are gone.

I've built my sales career on honest delivery of value to my clients and I have done very well using this approach. Paul Mush trains his reps to use lying and manipulation. This goes against everything I believe in so I did not participate for more than one training session.

I have been a business owner and a sales rep for many years. I have dealt with all sorts of people. This guy is in a class all by himself. I have never experienced such pure evil in my entire life. It was truly a scary experience.

If you are a rep looking for work, please do not get caught in his trap. He will turn you into something you will not be proud of.

If you are a business owner seeking increased sales, then be aware of the type of person you will be dealing with and the terrible reputation your company may get by associating with this creep.

In business, I like to deal with people that display high ethical and moral values. None of that was present in my dealings with Paul Mush.
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#3 Author of original report

I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU!!!!

AUTHOR: Oklahoma based company - (USA)

I do not believe you.  Paul Mush is a con artist.  You may reach me anytime to discuss our dealings with this con artist.

Superior Exterior
877-766-3517

We gave Paul or payment of $5000 and never heard from again!  Stay away from this con man!
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#4 Author of original report

Superior Exterior

AUTHOR: Oklahoma based company - (USA)

We are not slandering you Paul Mush!  It is the truth.  You are a scam artist, con man.  I do not need to hide under a rock, and submit a report about and not identify myself.  You worked with me directly.  You lied to me and took my money!!!  You never hired or trained 1 person for our company.  Your answer to me~"I am busy".  You simply took our $5000 and we never heard another word from you.  You would NOT accept my phone calls, or return any of the numerous massages that where left for you.

I REPEAT-STAY AWAY FROM THIS CON ARTIST!!!

Superior Exterior, anyone that would to call our office to discuss this matter may reach us at
877-766-3517
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#5 Consumer Comment

Sales Team 1 Did exactly as promised and grateful I found them

AUTHOR: Marcie - (United States of America)

I contacted Paul at Sales Team 1 to get help with sales for my new company. I have an engineering background and know nothing about sales except that I need more. Paul has physics degree from the same college I attended here in Colorado. I talked with some of the professors who fondly recalled Paul. I talked to some of his past clients that were very happy and this convinced me he was legit.

I got more than I hoped for. Sales yes but also a lot of personal guidance on how to set up marketing and build a business that will last.

Paul asked me not to post here so as not to be associated with this awful malicious website full of hate and innuendo. I agreed to not leave my name in full but am posting anyway to help set the record straight. You can trust Paul, he does what he says and I know it first hand.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Agree

AUTHOR: Ramjet - (U.S.A.)

Even though this site is entertaining to read, it is nothing but a money maker for the owners.
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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Anonymous slander

AUTHOR: Paul Mush - (United States of America)

When faced with anonymous groundless slander, you must make a Hobson's Choice between ignoring it, and having people think it's true and that you are hiding under a rock somewhere, and answering it, and perhaps fanning the flames.

Allow me to explain what's going on here and elsewhere on this criminal website.

I have been building sales teams for 24 years and have worked for about 70 client companies, most of them untested start-ups. I have recruited many many thousands of sales reps, all on commission-only basis.

Most projects work to varying degrees of success. Of those that don't make it, the client usually knows first hand that I did a good job but that the product or offer was not being accepted by the marketplace. He take's responsibility, regroups, and tries again (or tries something else). 

Some (mostly amateur) CEOs find it more expedient to blame me. Entrepreneurs are no strangers to egos the size of blimps (me included). I can only recruit and the reps can only sell what the company makes available. If the reps won't sell it and prospects won't buy it, then the company does not  succeed. This is the case with or without me, oly that I give clients the best odds with my hard-won expertise. I am up front with what I can do (recruit, train, manage) and what I can't do (force reps to take a job, prospects to buy, or walk on water). I lose money on every project that does not sell, since beyond a nominal amount to cover expenses, I too am on commission.

For some projects that failed, I was lied to or had material information withheld. This was done by exagerrating past sales, recruiting success, and production capabilities or delivery times in an attempt to sell me on taking the job. These are also the individuals that are most likely to blame me for not delivering on their fantasies. I am very careful after all these years to set realistic expectations, but people often hear only what they want to hear. I take the job, discover the reality, the reps quit and some get mad at me, I lose money and drop the project.

In this case, the clinet knew that reps were typically being offered $1,000 signing bonuses in his speciality and location, and neglected to tell me. I got zero takers for the job and after only one month the client canceed blaming and accusing me. As you can see from the diatribe here it is not likely that he will ever admit any culpability.  If I would have been informed of the situation which he knew all about, I would have declined on the project, as I do for most projects. 

By the way, I will not sink to his level and reveal his name so that he to would suffer from a tarnished reputation. My mother taught me that two wrongs don't make a right.

I have had many offers from my clients to post here in my defense. I have emphatically advised them not to do so, since for eternity their good names will show up in the same sentence with this criminal organization that publishes this slander / extortion website.  A self-proclaimed authority and unchecked nutcase who makes money off of everybody involved, including you.

In 5 minutes I can post an anonymous slanderous piece of fiction about you or anybody else and you will find yourself in my (not so comfortable) shoes. Forever, it seems. Without any recourse, except what the little cottage industry of anti-slander services that have sprouted like mushrooms on manure advise which is to bury the slander under listings, pr, and other noise.

Thieves and con-artists are betrayed by NEVER doing the following online: :

1. Revealing their real names.
2. Listing their address, phone, email and so on.
3. Including a meaningful bio on management team members.
4. Including case studies and testimonials
5. Having a domain name open to Whois.

Check out my site and see if you can tell the difference. I also provide my eBooks, audios, and other resources for free, against the advice of many who said I should make people pay to access.

I live and work in the light of day, unlike anonymous slanderers, and the cockroach hiding behind the First Ammendment that runs this site.

Every one of my clients is offered a monthly agreement term so as not to be held to a deal. I always include a dispute resolution clause calling for mediation and then binding arbitration (applies to clients and reps).

I have never had one client or sales rep request mediation, arbitration, or file a lawsuit against me. Not a single one in 24 years. This should make it very obvious that since they have no claim against me, other than they are mad that the world did not spin to their liking, regardless that I have been working for them for free, that their only percieved course of action is to lamely attempt to assasinate me in the court of public opinion.

You are that court. The judgement is yours. You hold me for ransom and I hold you. Everybody can now freely assasinate everybody else or we can fight to end this site and the countless others springing up. Ignore anonymous blatherings and innuendo. It's in our best interests. 

I thank you for reading my reply and wish us all the best.
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