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Complaint Review: Vintage Hockey Classics

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  • Submitted: Fri, March 16, 2012
  • Updated: Wed, October 03, 2012

  • Reported By: davisr30 — San Antonio Texas United States of America
Vintage Hockey Classics
Internet United States of America

Vintage Hockey Classics Took my money but never delivered my jersey!!! Internet

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: vintage hockey scum bag george

*Consumer Comment: Make More Noise

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: scumbag george

*General Comment: Info

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: scumbag george

*Consumer Comment: Vintage Hockey Jerseys Scam

*Consumer Comment: Vintage Hockey Classics- Thieves

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: scumbag/vintagehockeyclassics

*Author of original report: Vintage Hockey Classics

*General Comment: Guess who called?

*General Comment: Call Detective Kenny

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Place an order with vintagehockeyclassics.com on Sep.13,2011. Got a call back from phone number 716-602-4787 who said his name was JAmes Heim. He took my order and I paid $200 via Paypal and he said it would take 8 to 10 weeks. I called him back in December and he never answered. I used his contact form on his website and he called me right back thinking this was a new order. He was surprised when I asked him where my jersey was. He said give it a few more weeks. I have tried several times to call but no answer. Today is March 16,2012 and still no jersey.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

vintage hockey scum bag george

AUTHOR: stevie c - (United States of America)

  i have through sources george has temp closed his website to inmprove or start a new web site! what? to rip off more people where the fuck ids karen davis  now?
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#2 Consumer Comment

Make More Noise

AUTHOR: gdmbman - (United States of America)

I agree.  We definitely should not let this this stand.  The AG office appears to have received multiple complaints about this guy and his company, which I have been told is enough for them to take action; However, it does not appear that they have done anything but try to call him for a comment (unsuccessfully; this guy doesn't answer).  We need to call and inquire about our complaints and verbally complain and demand action. 

Maybe, we even need to file our reports again.  It does look like we may have made enough noise to scare him away from his website, but I wouldn't doubt it if he set up another with a different name.  You can contact anyone via email at the AG office by doing the following: firstname.lastname@ag.ny.gov  Just insert Karen Davis' name.  She works in the buffalo area office if anyone wants to follow up with a phone call.  Keep everyone updated on your results.
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#3 REBUTTAL Individual responds

scumbag george

AUTHOR: stevie c - (United States of America)

does anybody who has filed a complaint with the ag office have  a clue to whats going on with this sh*t head? does anybody have karen davis number? ilooked for a**holes website but cant find it  did he take it off and start another? i heard through the grape vine he  try to scam somebody else by asking fpor money and making them a partnerdid anybody get any money from vintage hockey or is this just a smoke screen? anybody else still unhappy with thats going on let me  know lets make more noise and let  the ag's office know we are unhappy
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#4 General Comment

Info

AUTHOR: gdmbman - (United States of America)

I filled 2-complaints with the NYS Attorney General's Office:  1-complaint with the internet fraud department and another with agent, Karen Davis, who had reportedly received previous complaints about this company and individual.  NYS' response to my internet fraud complaint was that there was no previous complaints on file about the company, so they couldn't act.  They recommended filling small claims.  Karen Davis claims to still be working on the case.  I recently asked her what was going on with the case and I mentioned that their website was still operating, and she simply asked for the website address, which she should already know.

This doesn't seem promising in regards to getting assistance from the NYS Attorney General's Office.  I recommend continuing to send complaints to the NYS Attorney General and maybe they will have to act.  If anybody else hears anything, please post. 
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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

scumbag george

AUTHOR: stevie c - (United States of America)

 does anybody know whats going on with(stinky a**  george kuhn) did they throw his big ass in jail? and will i ever get to see my hard earned  money he stole from me?
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#6 Consumer Comment

Vintage Hockey Jerseys Scam

AUTHOR: Ken - (USA)

Get in touch with Karen Davis of the New York Attorney Generals office - They are conducting a criminal investigation  The rules say you can not post an email address, so you may have to look it up or messgae me for detaila - Karen dot Davis at ag dot ny dot gov

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#7 Consumer Comment

Vintage Hockey Classics- Thieves

AUTHOR: gdmbman - (United States of America)

I was also recently ripped of by "James" and "George" of Vintage Hockey Classics or Niagara Frontier Sports.  I ordered a jersey from them in September for $260, which was due to me in December but was not delivered.  They do not answer phone calls or respond to emails unless you claim to by trying to place another order. 

PayPal is no help help since VHC don't promise delivery for 10-weeks which is beyond the dispute window for PayPal.  Credit card companies won't provide assistance with PayPal transactions.  I filed a fraudulent claim with the NYS Attorney General's Office and I am waiting to see what they will do.  I am interested in piggy backing any current efforts to keep these guys from ripping other people off.

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#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company

scumbag/vintagehockeyclassics

AUTHOR: stevie c - (United States of America)

im thinking of filing a class action lawsiut against  george kuhn and niagara frontier sports ,please if anybody wants to join in,and snail this  sob  please contact det kenny atthis number 716-692 2121 ext 309 ,tell him steve said it was alright to give out my email
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#9 Author of original report

Vintage Hockey Classics

AUTHOR: davisr30 - (United States of America)

Thanks for the contact info. I emailed the Detective this morning. Interesting that "George" or whatever his real name is called you back. Did you call the same phone number that we have?
Sure he comes through with your refund.
-Robbie
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#10 General Comment

Guess who called?

AUTHOR: Ken - (USA)

Guess who called me last night?  Our boy George Kuhn.  He left me a message about how he was the customer service dept in his company and he should fire himself, blah blah blah.  Offered up a full refund and told me he would get it out this week. He has proven to all of us, he is not to be trusted.  Let's see if he redeems himself.  Good Luck - Ken
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#11 General Comment

Call Detective Kenny

AUTHOR: Ken - (USA)

The detective handling the case is Mike Kenny mkenney@tonawandacitypd.com  - He said to get in touch with him and encourage any others that may have been wronged.  This detective has been 100% professional and has been a huge help.  Can't give you the details, but he seems to be on it.  We will see.  He said to call his office 716-692-2121 ext-309He said to pass his info on.  Please feel free to post this stuff.  If you want to call him to verify, please feel free.  I don't think we will ever see our money, but if I can be a pain in this guys a**, I intend to do it.  He may be facing federal wire fraud charges.  Ken
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