• Report: #809915

Complaint Review: Wood Tree Apt - Randy Schumock (owner)

  • Submitted: Thu, December 15, 2011
  • Updated: Tue, January 01, 2013

  • Reported By: Jane — Beaverton Oregon United States of America
Wood Tree Apt - Randy Schumock (owner)
13460 SW Allen Blvd Beaverton, Oregon United States of America

Wood Tree Apt - Randy Schumock (owner) Valley 4-plex, Valley Ave The laundry room is always dirty. The outside lights are always out. The owner doesn't care how he manages his apartments. Beaverton, Oregon

*Consumer Comment: just an update...

*Consumer Comment: blah, blah, blah

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Mark,Jane,Lynnsmith or whatever name you are going by today

*Consumer Comment: My Comment 2

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Jane doesn't exist

*Consumer Comment: My Comment

*General Comment: Randy Shumock

*Consumer Comment: He works at Meadows Group Inc., Realtors

*Consumer Comment: So here is my input about what I heard lately...

*Author of original report: Quiet Enjoyment

*Consumer Comment: I just gotta ask...

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The owner of these apartments doesn't follow landlord tenant laws or real estate laws here in Oregon. He is a real estate agent here in Oregon but I don't think he knows how to sell homes as much as he knows how to run his apartment complex.

The laundry room is always dirty. The outside lights are always out. The owner doesn't know how to manage apartments. So far there has been a few lawsuits against this owner and maybe more are on the way.

The owner harasses good tenants that he doesn't like but doesn't understand that the tenant can file charges against the owner.

The rent at these apartments are higher then the apartments just next door which are going for about $700/month while these are going for about $725/month.

So stay away from Wood Tree Apts and Valley 4-plex.

Wood Tree Apts is at 13460 SW Allen Blvd, Beaverton, OR 97005
Valley 4-plex is at 6105, 6113, 6123, 6133 SW Valley Ave, Beaverton, OR 97008


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#1 Consumer Comment

just an update...

AUTHOR: Mark - (United States of America)

Update: Randy has not taken me to court. I'm still not sure why he is threatening to do so from above. From one of his public transcripts I see that he sued his ex-employer in August 2002, a Real Estate Company, and lost. Also, I don't think Randy had any intentions of paying me anything or refunding me any Petty Cash Funds when I was managing his apartments. I'm glad I found out about Randy when I did. I moved out as soon as I could!

Oh well, I think it's time for me to move on. I guess I lose.

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Randy's statement above: "Getting the transcripts of all my previous court cases seems awfully creepy to me."

My interpretation of this statement is that Randy thinks people who looks at, or makes copies of court cases or transcripts are "creepy". Again, just my interpretation.

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Links I found on the Internet:

http://www.neighborcity.com/OR/agent-profile/1348536-Randy-Schumock/ 

http://www.city-data.com/multnomah-county/S/SE-187th-Avenue-3.html

http://www.city-data.com/multnomah-county/S/SE-187th-Avenue-1.html 

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If anybody post anything after this, I will reply to it.
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#2 Consumer Comment

blah, blah, blah

AUTHOR: Mark - (United States of America)

Randy's last post translates to: blah, blah, blah
 
Just lies, lies, lies!

See Randy is attacking me again, Why?

In my opinion, talking to Randy is like talking to the wall.

I'm not sure where you got $7,000. 

In the last two posts from Randy he is saying again that he is taking me to court. I think Randy fills superior that he posted this again. He's been saying this since Feb 7, 2012. Again, I'm not worried!

It looks like Randy is bothering the tenants again for his problems. Just like it says above: "He will interrupt their "Quiet Enjoyment" - The right to enjoy the use of the premise without harassment from the landlord"

If Randy is really talking to any of the tenants I'm sure the tenants are just telling the owner (Randy) what he wants to hear so he'll leave them alone.

Randy needs a Judge to tell him that he needs to pay me or not? Just pay me and save money on lawyers and court cost! And it's over! 

One last words for Randy, please pay me the Petty Cash Funds you owe me, $3,069.00. This is the money I spend on your business (apartment complexes). Then I'll post that you paid me the money you owed me. I was hoping to use the money to fix my teeth.
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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mark,Jane,Lynnsmith or whatever name you are going by today

AUTHOR: Randy Schumock - (United States of America)

Hi Mark,

I know Lynnsmith is you also. The fact that you are the only person in the world that I told I gave my ex wife the house and $50,000. was a pretty good clue. You said you went to the court house and looked up all my previous court cases so now you know I gave her much more than that but I didn't want you to know the entire amount. Do you really expect people to believe a tenant of a neighboring apartment complex would know the name of the owner of the apartment complex next to theirs and know details of that owner's divorce?

So you managed there for 5 years before Jane's post and you don't know who this tenant named Jane is either? Maybe it's Jane that is writing "in Mark's defense" on your last post. Most people would write "in my defense".

You made up a lie about me sitting in my SUV and posting notes and called me creepy. Creepy is a term that tenants and neighbors have used to describe your behavior toward the end of your tenure as manager and I'm getting stories of you hiding in the bushes and watching people. Getting the transcripts of all my previous court cases seems awfully creepy to me.

I don't think many people would think leaving a RIP sign on your unit after the way you left would be funny.

J Chapman and I are not out to get you in any way. I don't understand why you feel that way. J was one of your only friends and I treated you kindly over all the years.

I am now very interested in getting you out of my life though.

As you know, you were given a PARTIAL rent credit over the last 34 months of your tenure as on site manager. You say that we didn't have an agreement in writing but I have emails from you and ledgers you sent me with your notes confirming our agreement. The amount of rent that wasn't covered by your managing was almost $7000. and you gave me receipts for around $3000. If you bought some software then add that in and you still owe me more than $3000. I was never planning on even asking you for this money. The crap you are posting on the internet and telling my friends, tenants and customers may be changing my mind as I feel going to court is the only fair way to show you I don't owe you money in a way you would understand.

If you didn't like our agreement or working for me you should have asked to renegotiate or do what most people do when they are not happy: quit.

Yes, I did call in the evenings. I was respectful of your sleep disorder and tried to not to call in the mornings as you weren't able to fall asleep until 4 or 5 in the morning many days.

Since I don't agree that I owe you money and you even have a web site dedicated to me owing you money, I am taking this to court to let a judge determine if I owe you money or not. As you know, I pay all my bills. If the judge says that I owe you money, I will happily pay it. I can't imagine that any judge will see it that way but you never know.

It's sad that you wouldn't talk to me on the phone or meet with me to go over everything when you quit. Now you won't accept emails and want to put everything on the internet. I was always nice to you and even though you have been attacking me on the internet for months now, I will not change that. I hope for the best for you and I hope your business does better in the future. Feel free to call or email me at any time. I will no longer respond to any of your posts on this site. If I don't hear from you to settle this before the court case, I hope you will be satisfied with whatever the judge or jury decides.

If anybody other than Mark and I ever bother to read this, please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

Mark, I sincerely hope that you have a wonderful future and are able to enjoy life and all that life has to offer.

Randy
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#4 Consumer Comment

My Comment 2

AUTHOR: Mark - (United States of America)

Randy you finally posted a reply. GOOD for You! It took you from Feb 7, 2012 (the same day Jay Chapman posted his comment) to April 3, 2012 to do it! Of course, you posted this the same day I told you to STOP emailing me.

I do find this interesting; instead of Randy defending himself about the first three posts, he decides to attack me?

I don't know about Randy, but I'm going to defend myself...

First let's start with Jay Chapman's post about me. I have known his ex-wife for about 2 years and she would not say this. Your ex-wife is a good tenant and doesn't talk to a lot of other tenants. She is a quiet person and keeps to herself. It's also interesting that Jay posted this the same day I received my first email from Randy blaming me for these posts. Mmm, it makes me wonder if they're both out to get me. Why? And Jay, It's Not Slander, or Libel, If It's True!

In Mark's Defense: Yes, I was Randy's on site Apartment Manager for about 5 years, 3 of those years was just Randy and I. There was no "Written Contract" between Randy and I. I do think Randy took advantage of me because I ended up working more hours then I was suppose too. Sometimes he would call me late at night, Mondays through Sundays, asking me unimportant questions. I was always on call 24/7, while working another full time on call job. I even had to buy my own Property Management software to record Randy's income and expenses for his properties (Wood Tree Apts and Valley 4-plex) I never got refunded for. The software cost me $249.00. I did everything (Maintenance, Repairs, Collected, Record and Deposit the Rent, Lease Agreement Enforcement, Marketing, Cleaned around both apts, Water both apts, Take out the trash every week, Handled Tenant Complaints, etc.) and still had to use my own money for Petty Cash Funds. This was NOT fair! I don't think there was any other Apartment Managers that had to use their own money for Petty Cash Funds and did everything I did without getting any extra pay. I was getting so tried of working on call 24/7, and doing all the other things I wanted to get out of there, ASAP! I was not happy working for Randy. 

Randy Said: "If I had a tenant named Jane, I would happily resolve any issues with her but I can't recall ever having a Jane as a tenant."
In Mark's Defense: Here are two tenants that lived in Randy's apts and he didn't know who they was:
1.) This female tenant lived in Randy's apts for five years and Randy spelled her name wrong: "Who are Pauala and Sam? What unit are they in?" : Emailed From: Randy Schumock, To: Mark Errington, Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 4:31 AM.
2.) This female tenant lived in Randy's apts for three years: "Who is Lourie? What unit is she in?" : Emailed From: Randy Schumock, To: Mark Errington, Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:31 AM.

Randy Said: "What tenant would have the addresses of the owner's properties?"
In Mark's Defense: The addresses are on the buildings. If someone pointed to that building and said, "That's Randy's apartments, Valley 4-plex!" All someone would have to do is look at the numbers on the building, know what street it's on, and what city it's in, and you have a complete Address! I don't know who Jane is either.

Randy Said: "I also heard from a friend that he was out to get revenge on me."
In Mark's Defense: This is NOT true! I said that Randy owes me about $3,000. But WOW!!, I NEVER said I was out for revenge!  

Randy Said: "The post was done by my ex on site manager, Mark, who quit 2 weeks before this post."
In Mark's Defense: The post was not done by me. In my opinion, Randy is trying to blame me? Why? Just because I left without saying anything to him that is no reason to blame me. 

Randy Said: "To be honest, most of my complaints from tenants over the last 5 years had been about Mark."
In Mark's Defense: The reasons why the tenants complaint about me was because of Randy's Policies that tenants did not follow. I was making sure that tenants followed Randy's Policies like a GOOD Apartment Manager should.

Randy Said: "The courts will decide in a few months as I will be taking him to court for harassment and character defamation along and the money he owes me."
Mark's Corrections: this sentence did not make sense to me, how about you? Did you see the problem? I think the words "along and" and "character defamation" are the problem. I think it should read like this: "The courts will decide in a few months as I will be taking him to court for harassment and defamation of character along with the money he owes me." Does that seem better to you? I think Randy fills superior that he posted this and is telling everyone that he is taking me to court. He's been saying this since Feb 7, 2012. I'm not worried!

Randy Said: "My records show he owes me more than he claims I owe him."
In Mark's Defense: For the past two months Randy keeps changing his mind. Last month he said I owed him $3,000. This month $4,000!

Randy Said: "I would have let the money he owes me issue slide if he hadn't started attacking me on the Internet and all the other devious things he has been doing."
In Mark's Defense: I have done nothing wrong. In my opinion, Randy just doesn't want to pay me the money he owes me.

Randy Said: "I was very nice to Mark and supported him the best that I could."
In Mark's Defense: Yes, he was nice to me but way to many emails and phone calls.

I've never been sued before or had to go to court for a lawsuit but while I was at the Washington County Court House I saw many court cases that Randy was in.

Oh yes, what about that R.I.P. Halloween sign I left behind? I attach the image to this post. Randy gave me the impression that he was unhappy with me leaving my Halloween R.I.P. sign behind when I left Wood Tree Apts. I left in November just after Halloween. What was wrong with having a Halloween R.I.P. sign? I'm confused!
 
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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Jane doesn't exist

AUTHOR: Randy Schumock - (United States of America)

The post was done by my ex on site manager, Mark, who quit 2 weeks before this post. Mark was in charge of cleaning the laundry room, changing exterior light bulbs, following the law with tenants, tracking market rent for the area, etc. What tenant would have the addresses of the owner's properties?

After conversing with Mark for years through emails, I am familiar with his unique way of writing. I also heard from a friend that he was out to get revenge on me. What he is upset at, I have no idea. He put these posts up before he even claimed I owed him money. Check out his web site in my honor randyownsmemoney.com  Yes, that is how the site is spelled. My records show he owes me more than he claims I owe him. The courts will decide in a few months as I will be taking him to court for harassment and character defamation along and the money he owes me. I would have let the money he owes me issue slide if he hadn't started attacking me on the internet and all the other devious things he has been doing.

I have offered to pay for psychological help for Mark as he suffers from depression and paranoia but he declined. 

If I had a tenant named Jane, I would happily resolve any issues with her but I can't recall ever having a Jane as a tenant. To be honest, most of my complaints from tenants over the last 5 years had been about Mark. I was very nice to Mark and supported him the best that I could. I guess no good deed goes unpunished.

It is a sad commentary that there are people out there that using the internet in this way and it destroys the purpose and credibility of sites like Rip Off Report.
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#6 Consumer Comment

My Comment

AUTHOR: Mark - (United States of America)

After reading these posts I can see why Randy might be a little angry. I had people post true and false things about me a few years ago. I just posted a reply and moved on.

Randy told me about this web site and he thinks I started this post. The month I was moving out I talked to a few tenants about Randy and those tenants also talked about Randy. By Randy's emails I received a few days ago, I'm sure after I left Wood Tree Apts he was talking about me to his tenants.  So sorry, I don't know who started this post.

There might be some things on this post that might be true or false but you can make your own judgement about Randy in person.

I was Randy's apartment manager from 2006 to 2011. I got to know Randy over the years and was not happy working for him, so I left. I do keep in touch with a few tenants from Wood Tree Apts and Valley 4-plex so I might stop by now and then.
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#7 General Comment

Randy Shumock

AUTHOR: Jay Chapman - (United States of America)

  Mark Errington, I am not quite sure why you dont like Randy, but I have lived in the building next to two of his properties for over 25 years. When he bought the Wood Tree apts. he spent a lot of time and money fixing them up. Over the years he has done nothing but improve them. My ex-wife actually lives in the Wood tree Apts. and says what you are saying is not true. I think for whatever reason you are trying to slander Randy for you might think twice about it. I you were doing this to me you would find yourself in court. 
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#8 Consumer Comment

He works at Meadows Group Inc., Realtors

AUTHOR: Naoko - (Japan)

Meadows Group Inc., Realtors
12655 SW North Dakota St.
Portland, OR 97223

Phone: (503) 590-1500

I found Randy's pix on the web.
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#9 Consumer Comment

So here is my input about what I heard lately...

AUTHOR: lynnsmith - (United States of America)

Tonight, I did a search for "Randy Schumock" and came across this web site, Great!

So here is my input about what I heard lately...I heard that last Wednesday or so this guy Randy Schumock left a note on one of his tenant's cars and it said that he was going to have their car towed. Their car was parked in their assigned parking space. So Randy waited in his SUV next to the tenant's car until the tenants came out so he could see them take the note off the car. Is that guy creepy or what! After the tenants saw the note they was confused and moved their car off the lot and parked it close by. Just a few minutes later, on that same night, Randy found out where their car was parked and put another note on their car saying that he will have their car towed and also taped a note to their sliding glass door saying that their car will be towed. Randy is ONLY harassing these tenants. He is not bothering any other tenants. I told these tenants to get a lawyer and sue Randy for harassment and stress. I know these tenants. They just stay at home and keep to themselves. These tenants are very nice so why is Randy harassing them? They pay their rent on time and are quiet tenants. I wonder if Randy thinks he's GOD. Randy needs to get a life!

Also, about 2 years ago Randy's wife of about 15 years left him. I guess she got smart and did the right thing by leaving him. I heard that she got the big house and about $50,000 in cash.

Right now, Randy is using InterWest Properties Inc, in Portland, to manage Wood Tree Apts and Valley 4-plex.
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#10 Author of original report

Quiet Enjoyment

AUTHOR: Abuse - (United States of America)

He will interrupt their "Quiet Enjoyment" - The right to enjoy the use of the premise without harassment from the landlord.
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#11 Consumer Comment

I just gotta ask...

AUTHOR: Ken - (USA)

"The owner of these apartments doesn't follow landlord tenant laws or real estate laws here in Oregon."

Since you're aware he's breaking laws, please tell us, specifically, which laws he's breaking?

Who have you reported this lawless activity to?

I also only see 2 ROR's against this owner...both yours.

How many lawsuits have been filed and who filed them?   Where did you get this information....from your wife's cousin, who heard it from her hair dresser, whose best friend told her?
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