- Report: #988539
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Complaint Review: Another Chance 4 Horses
Another Chance 4 Horses166 Station Road Bernville, Pennsylvania United States of America
Another Chance 4 Horses AC4H, Christy Sheidy, Lara Sheidy, and Selina Sheidy. This so called rescue is a complete scam praying on good meaning people thinking they are helping horses, when really they are just paying outrageous prices to this business. Bernville, Pennsylvania
*Consumer Comment: Compensation
*Consumer Comment: Response to Amanda Hunters Complaint on AC4H
*Consumer Comment: AC$H another chance to scam people and abuse horses
*General Comment: Another Chance 4 Horses is really Her Chance to Make Money From Home Without Working
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Rebuttal - to correct misinformation about horse slaughter posted
*General Comment: none
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Let me start by saying I have worked side by side with them before and know a majority of their "routine". This report is not to use foul language and make false accusations about them, rather to inform the public of the truth behind their "rescue".
Their supposed "broker owned program" is a program where they have a broker (someone who buys and sells horses), particulary they are working with Brian Moore at this time. They go to his barn and take pictures of some of his horses and ponies and do videos. A majority of the time they have no idea about how old, tall, or what breed the equine is and just make guesses (that are usually way off), or they state it to be a more desiarable breed. They advertise Brian as being a kill-buyer (a person who buys horses to directly ship to slaughter), which he is. However, the horses they claim are at risk, are at no risk at all of going to slaughter. Greys, Studs, work horses (too much bone), horses under 900 pounds (i.e. ponies, miniatures, yearlings) are not wanted at the slaughter houses in Canada (which is where Brian sends his horses to). Take a look at their website and notice how many of these "at risk" equines fit the unwanted bill.
I personally attend the auction where Brian buys his horses. He buys under multiple numbers. He buys the horses he is actually sending directly for slaughter, and then buys horses Christy has told him are in demand through her program (i.e. standardbreds, saddlebreds, morgans, minis, ponies). The two groups are purchased under different numbers. He will buy up to 100+ horses at an auction each week...however how many new ones do you see on their site?
They also used to work with Jesse Austin (a broker, no longer a kill buyer). I would attend auctions with him, watch him "pick out" the horses he knew AC4H could sell, and then trailer them over to their "pick up barn" jump on the horses and ride them around for pics and video. Jesse is not, and has not been a kill buyer for years, his horses where never at any risk of going to slaughter, however that is what they lead everyone to believe.
When working with a broker, the broker will buy the horse for a certain amount of money, then tell Christy what he wants for it, say $300. Christy will then instantly add $100 if not more to the horses price. They also demand a mandatory donation of $25 to any horse "bailed". They used to also charge a $35 delivery to the pick up barn fee. You would think this would go to the person delivering them, but no it never did. They also charge $55 for "vetting fees" which is only a coggins that cost $22 from Dr. Holt in Honeybrook, PA. Sometimes the brokers have "rare" breeds (i.e. Warmbloods, Morgans, Chincoteague Ponies, Sport Ponies, etc.) that AC4H thinks are worth more. I have personally seen them list a pony for over $1,000 that the broker only wanted about $450 for. Do the math.
To show their lack of care of the horses, and only their pockets...Jesse once had a 21 year old grey Thoroughbred mare that was suffering from cancer horribly. She was at his barn for about two weeks and was being kept in a stall with grain twice daily and all the hay she could eat but was loosing weight drastically. When one of the daughters texted one day and said she had been "bailed" I informed her that the horse was not fit to travel, she was too thin. She then responded with well, if she's so thin will you take money off her purchase price? (This is after she had already been paid for through them). I told her no, that they horse needed to be removed from their site and the best option was euthanasia. They let her slide that week but demanded we bring her the following week.
There was also a situation where they had sold a mule we had. When we went to get her in the field she was dead. She had died from natural causes (being extremely old). When I informed one of the daughers, she said let me check with the lady that bougtht her. Shortly later she asked if we had any other mules, that they lady would take a different one. We did, and we took it up to them. Later to find they had tried to trade the second mule off as the same mule. The lady who bought her knew right away it was a different mule and was furious and scared about what had happened to the first one. They never told her, I ended up messaging her and letting her know.
You would think that with all the money they rake in for these "at risk" horses they would be able to pay the brokers their money the same week they recieve it right? Not the case. The broker I worked for had to wait up to a month and a half to recieve his money. They always would write post dated checks, tell him to hold them, then they would bounce. They would blame PayPal for slow transfers etc. They are so poor at money management they would under pay all the time and even over pay! At one point the excuse was "well we were expecting to recieve $2,000 from selling one of our traditional rescue horses...." ... hm. That would indicate they had already spent $2,000 that was not theirs to spend...
I hope this information helps anyone who is looking to "save" a horse from AC4H to reconsider...
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 12/29/2012 09:11 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Another-Chance-4-Horses/Bernville-Pennsylvania-19506/Another-Chance-4-Horses-AC4H-Christy-Sheidy-Lara-Sheidy-and-Selina-Sheidy-This-so-call-988539. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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