Fortis Healthcare Ltd, David Cooper Bogus Job Offer via phone Instant Messaging and Yahoo Email and IM via Internet

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BUZZ!!!

Hello.

How are you ?

Online

David Cooper has signed back in.

ME:

Hello finally.

David Cooper

 yes

How are you doing ?

ME

Fine, just a little frustrated with trying to get this all working.

David Cooper

Ok

I believe you are here and set for the job briefing and interview ?

ME

Yes.

David Cooper

Good.... Lets proceed, Welcome to the company Fortis HealthCare Ltd, i believe that you are ready for the job briefing/interview. As we proceed further with the briefing and interview, you will get to know more and understand better about the open positions. I want you to know that your quick response is highly appreciated Okay ?

ME:  Thank you.  I appreciate your patience with me getting this setup.

David Cooper

No problem.

The positions available are. Data Entry, Sales, Clerical Admin, Administrative Clerk/Assistance,Customer Service Receptionist,Dispatcher,financial-analys,Medical Billing and Coding,Accounting, Payroll Clerk, Book keeping,Medical Biller/Coding, Front Desk Clerk, Project Manager , Operations Manager or Business Analyst, Typist Clerk,Management,IT jobs,Call Center Rep.  Which Can you be able to handle effectively ?

ME:

I'm more interested in the IT field as I just received my BS in Applied Computer Science last year.  I am looking for entry level IT work where I would be working with others.  I have 17 + years in the Administrative field having retired in the field from the USAF.  So, I am very qualified for any administrative work.

David Cooper

Have you been interviewed online before ?

ME: No, this is a first for me.

David Cooper

The name of the company is Fortis HealthCare Ltd.

Fortis Healthcare Limited is a leading integrated healthcare delivery service provider in India. The healthcare verticals of the company primarily comprise hospitals, diagnostics and day care speciality facilities.

Currently, the company operates its healthcare delivery services in India, Singapore, Dubai, Mauritius, Sri Lanka and we are setting up so many locations all over the U.S with 55 healthcare facilities (including projects under development), approximately 10,000 potential beds and 270 diagnostic centres.

In a global study of the 30 most technologically advanced hospitals in the world, its flagship, the Fortis Memorial Research Institute' (FMRI), was ranked No.2, by 'topmastersinhealthcare.com, and placed ahead of many other outstanding medical institutions in the world.

ME:

That's very impressive. 

David Cooper

Before we proceed I would love to know more about you. That would help me to categorize you and how best to interview you. I am Mr David Cooper, I am the interview-manager to Fortis HealthCare Ltd. I am here to brief and interview you more about the opening position, Please introduce yourself and indicate your age,sex and Location.

ME:

Information provided, but deleted from this posting.

David Cooper

The supervisor whom i will refer you to once you have all necessary materials to begin training/work will brief you more about the location  during your training and orientation,fix date of training and as-well provide you the company programmed cell # to enable you interact with customers and staffs once you have all necessary materials to begin training/work as soon as possible.that is after you have been considered by the board of director's.

ME:

I'm a little confused, is this a job offer?  I know you are stating referral to a supervisor after I have been considered by the board of director's but I still don't know much about the position, training, orientation, location?

David Cooper

You will get to know all of that as we proceed further.

ME:

Ok, proceed.

David Cooper

For A Start Your Job DUTIES and RESPONSIBILITIES are:

*Enter admission and billing data for clients and payroll information for employees into the computer system, and forward documentation to the appropriate processing center.

*Maintain client/employee records, and distribute copies of compliance documentation to appropriate branch staff based on Company approved standardized paper flow.

*Ensure all client and employee files are current and complete, interface with administrative staff to gather deficient or inaccurate documents, and notify the manager when employees do not respond to requests for needed documentation that may be assigned to you by the supervisor.

Can you handle the Job duties if been trained towards it ?

ME:  Yes, is this an online job?

David Cooper

Both online and pyhsical office job.

ME:  Ok.  

David Cooper

If offered this position: your task and assignment will be sent to you daily via IM and Emails and you are to submit work back to me at the end of the day via email. The pay rate is $35.75 hourly and training pay is $15.48/hr. M-F, 40 hrs or less weekly and the pay day is every Friday of the week...Benefits include: Health, Dental, Life and AD&D Insurance, Employee Wellness and 401k plans.Paid Time Off and Holidays with Generous Company Discounts.

ME

It sounds like a nice offer.  What are the working hours M-F?  You indicate 40 hours or less so is it more part-time than full time work?  How long is the training program?  What is AD&D Insurance?  Is this a permanent position?

David Cooper

You are to begin a part time,then once you work loyally you can work full

1 week

In insurance, accidental death and dismemberment (AD&D) is a policy that pays benefits to the beneficiary if the cause of death is an accident. This is a limited form of life insurance which is generally less expensive.

This is both temp and permanent position

ME:

I'm just a little nervous as I've never done and online working position before?  I'm looking for full time work because once I start working I will lose some benefits I presently have.  I can't afford to take a temp job that may or may not go away after a short amount of time working for the company.  You said this would be both online and in a physical location.  Where would that be at?

David Cooper

Once you meet your supervisor he/she will be providing you with all the branches

ME

Will I be meeting the supervisor via messaging or in person?

David Cooper

In person.

ME:

When will I have to decide?

David Cooper

You will undergo a week training from your training supervisor, He/ She will be training you on how to work with the programs accurate and other works you will need to get done. Your training is going to be done online through your PC and Phone. You will be Faxed or Emailed a paper work and a HR document during your training and orientation, you are to fill, sign and send back via Email for proper documentation.

ME:

So, has this gone to the board of directors for approval and I'm being offered a training slot?  If yes, when will the training begin?  Will this all be done via my yahoo mail and messenger accounts, so I know what to check?

David Cooper

You have not done the main interview

You keep interrupting me.

ME:

I'm sorry I did not intend to interrupt you.  The system did not show that you were typing and I thought you were waiting on a response from me.  

David Cooper

We are going mainly into the interview now and I advise you should read any question I ask you.  After due examination,you are required to send back your answer back to me over here. Be quick with your answers and also ask questions if necessary.

ME:

Ok.

David Cooper

1* Have you worked on line before ?

2* Are you currently employed ?

3* How long have you been looking for a job ?

4* Are you comfortable with the fact that you will be doing an online/work from home job pending when our office will be completed at the end of month.

5* We have met several candidates, Why are you the one we should hire ?

6* Are you seeking Full Time /Part Time ?

ME:

1.  No, 2. No, 3.  6 months, 4. Comfortable but nervous at the same time since it will be the first time doing online work.  5.  Because I am very qualified in the area of administrative duties that the job calls for.  Having 17 + years experience working in the administrative field.  6.  Full Time.

David Cooper

7* How would you describe your work ethics ?

8* Do you know how to make use of MS excel ?

9* What's your typing speed ?

10* Do you have a Printer, Scanner and a Photocopier ?

11* If offered this position how would you like to be paid...Via Check Or Direct Deposit,Weekly or Bi-Weekly ?

12* What is the name of the Bank you Operate with to see if it tallies with the company's official salary payment account ?

ME:

7.  I am a very reliable and hard working person.  I strive for perfection in all that I do.  I am a very attention to detail worker, completing the job on time.  8.  Yes, I have used MS Excel in previous work.  9.  It has been a long time since I have had a typing test but I would say 40 WPM at least.  10.  Printer, I would need to obtain the other two.  11.  Direct Deposit, Bi-Weekly.  12.  Eglin Federal Credit Union.

David Cooper

Good....You seem like a perfect fit for the company and the  position

Hold on online while i forward your interview answers to the company's board of directors for proper review and consideration...Do you have any questions before i forward our conversations to the company's board of directors for proper review and consideration ?

ME:

No, not at this time.

David Cooper

Alright......... I need you to standby your PC or Phone, i will get back to you with your interview result in a jiffy.

ME:

Ok,  Thank you.

David Cooper

BUZZ!!!

Hello........ I am back now and your consideration stand is available now on my desk..Are you ready to know your stand ?

ME:

Yes.

David Cooper

CONGRATULATION......This is to confirm that you have been approved to be a staff of Fortis HealthCare Ltd. .having reached the requirements, passed the interview and recommended for the Job by the Board of Directors on employment.Also they will put you through our company's guidelines under US human Resources Laws and Regulations.

ME:

Ok.

David Cooper

You will Earn $35.75 per hour,You will receive your pay Via Direct Deposit / Check either weekly or bi-weekly.

I need you to send me now and  with the following: Your full names, Home address,Phone numbers and Email to enable my secretary enlist them into the Company's Register for proper documentation.

ME:

Provided but deleted before this posting.

David Cooper

Just to inform you that the company will be providing you with all mini office equipment's needed to begin work,training and orientation with your supervisor,all equipment's will be signed and customized with the company's name and logo that would be used for the data compliment by the company certified local vendor...Note: A Check will be issued and mailed out to you for the purchase of the software materials you will be needing and the following office equipment's are:

 

* Hp laptop with a fast internet connection,Hp Notebook Pentium D Duo Processor 1800 mGHZ, 120 Gigg HDD, 2G Internal Memory. * All in One Printer, Scanner, Fax and Photocopier Machine. * BS 1 Accounting software * Microsoft Office and Microsoft Operating Systems ( Service Packs 2 ) * Peach Tree premium 2014 US Patent Single Users Pack * Mini-Office Stationary,and a time tracker software to enable you calculate the amount of time you have worked per day...

ME:

Ok, so when do I meet with the supervisor for training?  Do I have to go out and purchase an HP computer.  I have a MacBook Pro.

David Cooper

Immediately you have all working materials because they will be needed

We will provide you with that.

Once the check is mailed out, i will be sending you the tracking# to the package so you can keep an eye on it to know when you're getting it.and i will provide you with the vendor details you are required to make the purchase of the materials from when needed...Also you're expected to report on your PC and check your email daily so that you don't miss any instructions regarding the payment delivery and instructions concerning the shipment and as soon as the check is delivered,you are to report immediately on your yahoo messenger or gmail hangout for further instructions.

ME:

Ok.  My only other concern before all of this gets put into motion is that I will need time off in May and Jul for two family weddings.  May 21-26 and Jul 7-14.  Do you foresee this to be a problem?

David Cooper

Not at all,by then,i believe you will be given a company car,if you really work hard.

ME:

Why would I need a company car?  Another thing you should know is that I am disabled but high functioning.  I drive myself but my vehicle is modified with hand controls so I drive with my hands and not my feet.

David Cooper

Okay.. If you don't need a car and a driver being paid the the firm no problem

ME:

I'm not saying no car, I'm just informing you of my disability and that a company car would need to be modified for me to be able to operate it.

David Cooper

Alright no problem.

Once you receive the check you are needed to have it deposited to your bank account via the Bank Teller, ATM or your Bank Mobile App ,Then the funds will be will be credited and available in  your account for cash out the next day morning..You are to deduct $100 as your sign up bonus and use the rest to purchase all your important software's and working materials from the trusted online Vendor whom we have been buying from for years now and the means of payment accepted by the vendor is via Cash Deposit, Western Union and Money Gram which i will provide you with the vendor's information you will be sending payment to..Understood ?

ME:

Understood.

David Cooper

Can you briefly explain to me what you will be using the Company Check for and Where to get your materials from ?

ME:

To purchase the required software's and working materials from the trusted online vendor whom the company has been buyig from for years.

David Cooper

Good..... How do you want your name to appear on the Company Check ?

ME:

Provided but deleted for privacy reasons.

David Cooper

The Job offer Flexible hours;you are required to report online here on IM from Mon/Fri by 8am your time daily for duties,task,assignments and updates about your check for your working materials purchase starting from Tomorrow.

ME:

I need to work over the weekend tracking the check and working materials?  Will my supervisor be coming to my house?  If yes, when will that occur?

David Cooper

Okay,will talk to you tomorrow then.

Once you have all working materials you will be meeting him or her

They will be needing your working materials for your training.

You will decide either to meet him/her at home or anywhere else.

ME:

I'm not sure what my working hours are for this weekend?  You said you will talk to me tomorrow, so online at 8 AM?

David Cooper

Any time tomorrow,just to get updates concerning the company's check.

ME:

That will be sent via IM or e-mail to my yahoo accounts?  I would think the check wouldn't get here until Monday since it is Friday at 7:15 PM CST.

David Cooper

Sure..

It will be through IM.

But can update you via Text also

ME:

What time zone are you located in?

David Cooper

EST

ME:

You are working late.

David Cooper

Instructing employees who  received their working materials today..

ME:

I guess I will talk with you tomorrow then.  Are we finished at this time?

David Cooper

So far is there anything you don't understand about the position that i am yet to explain ?

ME:

I am just suppose to track the company's check this weekend until I receive it.  Not sure if I'm just suppose to sit in front of my computer from 8 AM - 5 PM waiting for updates or just check for them randomly throughout the day.  

David Cooper

Once you get online by 8am,i will be online waiting for you.. Once updated,the check will be sent to you on monday,and you will receive it by tuesday or wednesday.

ME:

Ok.  I guess I will meet you online at 8 AM CST?

David Cooper

Yes...

Anu othet thing ?

Any#

ME:

What?

David Cooper

Questions ?

ME:

When we me online at 8 AM CST will I be working all day?  I have a commitment at 4 PM?

David Cooper

No..Just giving you your update not taking more than 10mins.

ME:

Ok. I guess I will talk with you at 8 AM CST tomorrow, Sat, Mar 21st.

Thank you and have a good evening.

David Cooper

Alright,we are done for Today. MAKE SURE YOU CONDUCT NO OTHER INTERVIEW ONLINE and i will always keep you posted. join me on line 8am Tomorrow and welcome to the company once again.

ME:

Thank you Mr. Cooper.

David Cooper

You very much welcome,and i hope you'll be a great source to the company. Do have a blessed evening ahead!

Offline

David Cooper has signed out.

 

The next morning, Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 8:05 AM

ME:

Mr. Cooper are you there?

David Cooper

Yes

How are you doing ?

ME:

Not well.  I did research last night and I am no longer comfortable with this job offer.  I believe it to be a SCAM.  I no longer want to pursue this with you.

David Cooper

Just wondering how we just need to build a perfect cordial working relationship if its deem fit to start having doubt at this stage of the process when the company has commited all effort and resource to get you started

ME:

No thank you.

David Cooper

I am a Father and Grand Father of kids.I'm 68 years old. I prefer to spend the time i have on earth with my kids than scamming. I know how it feels to get ripped off your hard earned money or sweat .I don't like the word scam let alone getting myself involved in it.

Okay.. Bye

ME:

Goodbye.

David Cooper

David Cooper has signed

ME:

These are my own comments to anyone receiving a similar offer.  DON'T DO IT.  All of the responses from Mr. Cooper were very scripted and quick so I know it wasn't just typed as we were texting.  It was from pretyped responses because the same information just about word for word or very similar was found here on Ripoff Report SCAMS.  To include his last response of "being a Father and Grand Father...68 years old, etc."  Thank you Alejandro Hunter for your posting of Fortis Healthcare SCAM.  Compare his post and mine and you can see the same script is being used in the SCAM.  Another flag is all the typos in the text.

If the offer seems to good to be true, it probably is.  I'm so glad I did my reasearch and DID NOT fall for this scam or let it go any further.  Use Google to research the company.  This company has a website and appears to be a true company but I don't know it could be fake too.  Or the SCAM is using a valid company to front their SCAM without the company's knowledge.  You decide about that.  Go one step further and search the "company name scam" and see if you find any SCAM reports on it.  That is how I found Alejandro Hunter's post.

As you can see David Cooper did not have much to say once I confronted the SCAM issue with him.  Just a scripted response that is similar or matches Alejandro Hunters post.

Lastly, David Cooper contacted me via Instant Messaging via my posted phone number.  My own intuition thought this was unusual since this had never happened to me before.  He even asked me if I had ever done an online interview before?  The first text was, "Hello is this and my name?  My response was who is this?  David Cooper responded with "I'm Mr. David Cooper from Fortis Healthcare Ltd. I'm contacting you in respect of your resume which you posted online and we have forwarded to our Head Department..Please kindly reply back if interested so we can move on to the next step."  ME:  What resume are you speaking about?  David Cooper:  He gave the the site where my resume was so I felt comfortable proceeding.  "Initially he wanted me to use Hangouts to receive the job briefing and interview.  When that wasn't successful he instructed me to quickly set up a yahoo mail account (mail.yahoo.com) and a yahoo instant messenger (http://messenger.yahoo.com).  Then asked me to add his recruiting desk address to my yahoo buddy list for an interview.  Yahoo mail and instant messenger are often used in these SCAMS.  Another red flag.

After finishing for the evening. I did my research and found it to be a SCAM and ended the process the next morning.  Another red flag was the job was to be M-F but he needed me to start this process over the weekend.  Just do your research and be careful out there.