• Report: #1106136

Complaint Review: M Grawe Autos

  • Submitted: Wed, December 11, 2013
  • Updated: Wed, December 11, 2013

  • Reported By: Anonymous but real — Los Angeles California
M Grawe Autos
7740 Milestone Parkway, Hanover, Maryland USA

M Grawe Autos (Alexander) Scam auto-dealer; phishing for information and "too good to be true" promises Hanover Maryland

*Author of original report: The real and original poster

*Author of original report: M Grawe Autos, Hanover Maryland

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I found a 1972 DeTomosa Pantera for sale online for $19,500 and emailed the dealer.  About one month later the dealer responded and said the car was available. (First red flag, why did it take so long to respond?)

I was of course interested in the car but it was "too good to be true".  I contacted the dealer, Alexander, and spoke to him about the car and said that I could put a deposit down on the car and provide him the remainder in one months time.  He agreed and then said that I could send the cash, and he would ship the car to me.  I live in California and it would be approximately $900 for shipping.  Cross country, this is an average cost of shipping.

I inquired into condition of the car and asked for the VIN, which he provided.  Of course this being a 1972 I could not run a carfax and didn't want to spend $40+ and wait for a formal classic car report.  The dealer volunteered a Bill of Sale with someone else's name on it.  I googled and researched the individual and called him.  He told me that a similar scenario happened to him and he backed out of the deal.

I have a friend nearby the location of the car and said I wanted to set up an appointment for him to verify the car.  Upon verication I was happy to send the money, execute a bill of sale, and do the shipment details. The deal fell through when the dealer said the car was "sold for full price" prior to the inspection happening.

Bottom line:

1) The deal was too good to be true and the Pantera was $15,000 underpriced at minimum.  The other guy I spoke to said the same thing about the Porsche he was interested in.

2) Shipping is almost always a scam unless you do it yourself.

3) Any dealer willing to take a deposit and send you the car before full payment is either shady, or ridiculously stupid.

4) Their "office" was in a building that is largely vacant and although I do not have proof, I can almost guarantee that they do not have one of the cars on their website in stock in a "climate controlled warehouse."

Shady, shady, shady. And they're bad scammers.  No money, no nothing from me with even a slight bit of investigation. If someone is able to actually buy a car from them and have it be real and sitting in their driveway, I would love to hear about it. 

Thanks, good luck, be wary.


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#1 Author of original report

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AUTHOR: Anonymous but real - ()

The second posting, retracting my original post, is completely false.  The dealership hacked my yahoo account and posted this.  So now they've gone from a being a terrible non-existent dealership, to internet fraud and phishing.  Entering data at the M Grawe auto website brings up a phishing warning from google/chrome.  BEWARE.

Thanks, original and real poster. 

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AUTHOR: Anonymous but real - ()

I would like to appologies for my last report. It was my mistake. The dealer ship is real, I've been there and vizited the climate controlled facility and I can guarantee they are real. The 1972 DeTomosa Pantera was sold but I saw some other vehicles. 

I am very sorry for my last report but I really thought it is a scam. I have been scammed before and I am afraid of any red flag since.

I had a nice conversation with Alexander and he's a very good man.

Once again I am very sorry for all the problems will shows up because of my first report. Hopefully the bad report will be removed from the web soon and I hope this report will be posted right next to the first one if the first report won't be removed from the website so people can see that the first report was a mistake.

I will recommend M Grawe Autos as a nice place to buy a car. They really have some nice cars there.

Good luck.

 

 

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