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Complaint Review: Oaklake Trails Naturist Resort

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  • Submitted: Mon, October 03, 2011
  • Updated: Fri, April 11, 2014

  • Reported By: C.W. — Lawton Oklahoma USA
Oaklake Trails Naturist Resort
24601 Milfay Rd #1, Depew, Oklahoma United States of America

Oaklake Trails Naturist Resort OLT I did a lot of work for them during the summer and then was told to leave because of defamation and slander Depew, Oklahoma

*Consumer Comment: A little counterintelligence work

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Dirty Politics

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I visited Oaklake Trails during the spring and enjoyed it very much at first. I was later asked if I'd like to be a part of the Camp Workers Program. I said sure that sounds great! The Camp Workers Program is basically a program that allows a camper to work for his stay or room and board there. I could work there during the summer and then go back to school during the fall.. Sounds like fun! So I began working there and things were going okay at first. I did a lot of work trimming trees, mowing grass, cleaning restrooms, sweeping floors etc.

Then on the weekends I could relax and join in the fun of partying with other members. It was made clear to me by one of the members that young adults weren't welcome there. So I kept to myself. Later another student about my age showed up and he also became a camp worker. We would work together during the day and would get together with other members and party on the weekends. I usually kept to myself, but the other camp worker was told he wasn't welcome there right away.

So he began keeping to himself also. We wanted to stay there because we enjoyed the lifestyle, but we kept getting called names and slandered while we were there, regardless of how much work we did or the quality of work. The slandering and name calling just got worse and worse, but we tried to ignore it, and tried to stay away from other members there. The members were mostly older couples in their 40's 50's and 60's who were drunk most of the time. I loved the lifestyle so much and tried to win the members over but it wasn't working.

Eventually the slander and defamation got to the point that the other camp worker was removed from the resort. It was sad, because he really wasn't that bad of a guy. He was just slandered so badly that he got himself drunk and began cussing people out for slandering him. I was hanging around with a visitor couple when he got himself drunk, so I wasn't for sure what was going on when he was being escorted out of the resort by the police. It was like he was set up, but I didn't say anything about it.
 
Later I would fall victim to the gossip and lies. But before I did, I was asked to sign a paper saying that I would not reveal any activities that went on there, or a list of names. This contract was so vague that it didn't specify what a list of names meant. Did it mean a list of names from the resort, or a list of names just random? I wasn't for sure. I felt that there may be some gossiping and slander going around about me, so I kept to myself and didn't really go around anyone after the other young adult camp worker was told to leave.

I worked during the day and at night I would sometimes visit other members, but kept my distance. One night I was asked to perform a sex act with an older male member there, but I refused. He began touching me and I backed away from him and went back to my camper trailer. I was also asked to masturbate with another member, but I refused. I think these were all ways to set me up, and get me kicked out.

A couple of days later, I was asked to leave. The reason? because I made an unwanted sexual advance to a guy. The sexual advances toward me somehow got twisted and turned around. By that time I was angry and upset about what was being said about me, that I was gay, and that I was there for sex. None of which were true. I never had sex when I was there. I did hang around with a couple of women there, but I didn't have sex with them. We came close one evening, but then I backed off, because I thought I was being set up. It turned out I may have been right. 

I was told that I had to leave the property within ten minutes. Well that was impossible to do because I had a camper trailer. I couldn't move it with my car. I was told that they would give me 30 minutes. Well again that's still impossible to do. I left and found someone to move the camper trailer off the grounds. I paid the mover $400.00 to have it moved to a camp ground in Oklahoma City. From there I had to make a phone call to someone else to come and pick up the trailer and move it again. I spent about $700.00 just moving the camper trailer!

When I got back home, I was so angry about what happened that I called the Creek County Sheriff's Office and filed a complaint about being touched unwantedly and the sexual advances made towards me. I was told that the matter would be turned over to the Sex Crimes Division. About a couple of weeks later, I began getting harassing phone calls and noticed I was being followed. The person in the vehicle who was following me looked familiar, but I couldn't tell who it was for sure.  The stalking and slander has continued to this day. I don't know why they're following me or who it is, but I felt I needed to say something about it on-line to have something recorded in case this turns into an investigation. 

A few names might be helpful though. Gary Spangler is the president of the resort and was in the Air Force. Jim Bishop was the youth director there. I don't know for sure if he's involved in any of this or not. Dennis Duncan lived on the camp grounds there and worked in the main office. Tom Darl was the camp ground manager there. Rick L. was one of the owners I think. He did a lot of grounds work and construction work there. Ray Mc? and Diana. They were also owners of the resort and kept up the grounds there.

I don't want this to turn into an investigation, but if it does I hope this information helps!

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#1 Consumer Comment

A little counterintelligence work

AUTHOR: RW - ()

 

I'm not going to say who I am, but I will say I have had experience with the people at that resort. If you rub them the wrong way, they will not let you forget it. It sounds like somebody rubbed them the wrong way, no pun intended. First let me give you a little background on myself. I visited this resort way back in the early 2000's. I think in 2002. I went through a similar incident as you. But my circumstances were a little different. I walked up on two members while they were in a field on a golf-cart and they were going at it. They quickly started the golf cart up and left. I didn't think it was a big deal. It seemed a little contrary to what they had told me about nudity being non-sexual. But I let it go. The female member who saw me didn't. She told other members that I had seen them on the golf-cart, and they begin watching me every-where I went. That evening they had a dance, and I asked one fo the female members to dance with me. I didn't know her husband was nearby watching. I told her she had a nice body. I thought I was complimenting her, but boy was I wrong. She took offense to it and then I was told to leave. I told them that was a dumb reason to make someone leave unless they didn't want me to spread the fact that I had seen something in the field earlier that day. I almost got into a fist fight with one of them. I packed my things and left, and like you I had to sign a contract saying I wouldn't mention anything about the resort to anyone. Well it wasn't long after that I noticed something strange going on. My mail was being rummaged through, my friends didn't want to have anything to do with me, and I noticed like you that I was being followed by people in cars with very dark tinted windows. Now back then, there wasn't really a name for this kind of bullying, but I found out it's called gang-stalking and it damn sure wasn't going on before I went to Oaklake Trails. It went on for five years. I lost my job, I was being watched by cops, and people I didn't know. I also noticed a heavy amount of air traffic above my house. And since I live in a rural area and nowhere near an airport, this was very unusual. I finally found a way to stop it, and it was by doing a little counterintelligence of my own. These people are like gang members. You do not want to get on their bad side! After reading your story, I felt sorry for what you're experiencing and if you're still around, I'd like to help you nip this in the bud! What i will do is give you a list of names and this is from doing a little investigative work on my own and from the information you posted. I don't know the people who were there when you visited because that was years after I visited the resort. But I have found some things that will help you. The president of the resort is Gary Mitchell Spangler. His date of birth is March 13, 1946. His spouse is Brenda Spangler. Her birthdate is January 6, 1950. Gary Spangler lives in Choctaw Oklahoma. His address is 16669 Topeka Ln. He was in the United States Air Force and has an FAA pilot license. The number is A1796937. The other people you mentioned are a Jim Bishop. His full name is James M. Bishop. His address is 1915 Porter Ave, Wichita Kansas 67203.  He also has an FAA pilot license, and that number is A5030696. Ray McCalment who was also there when I was visiting and one of the ones who threatened me if I didn't leave, his address is 24601 Milfay Rd Depew Oklahoma 74028. His birthdate is November 19, 1936. His spouse is Diana Durr McCalment DOB July 6, 1947. They have a son named Russell Weylin McCalment who lives at 5607 24th street Tulsa Ok 74114. DOB April 28, 1970. Richard Douglas Lorenz, and his DOB is August 26th 1947. His wife is Elizabeth Ann Lorenz and they live at 6110 Quail Ln Enid Ok, 73703. He also has an FAA pilot license number A2568512. He also has a relative named Matthew Todd Lorenz who lives at 2658 Heatherwood Dr, Dallas Tx 75228. He is 42 years old. He also has an FAA pilot license and that number is A4983788. Dennis Duncan lives in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. His DOB is March 28th 1946. He is married to a Diane C. Duncan and her address is 7700 Maehs Circle, Oklahoma City Oklahoma. Now Dennis don't have a pilot license but a relative of his does. His name is Frank W. Duncan who also lives at the same address. DOB October 9, 1970. He has a pilot license number A0510256. Now we both mentioned aircraft in the vicinity of our homes and at work. I find it a little more than a coincidence that all of these people just happen to belong to Oaklake Trails Naturist Resort and also have a pilot license. I also don't think that it's a coincidence that these people have also worked for the government in some way. Gang-stalking is a form of COINTELPRO which was created and used by the government to keep people quiet about what they may have learned about the government. My advice to you is buy some fire-arms, and keep them loaded at all times. Ignore this gov BS about how its wrong to own guns. It's another form of COINTELPRO. It's your Second Amendment right to own a gun. Remember this info is public information and anyone can get it. Another member you mentioned is Tom Darl. Well I didn't find a Tom Darl, but I did find a Thomas Darling PO Box 66 Lamont Oklahoma 74643 DOB November 29th 1938. Married to a Joy Darling who is 61 years old. If you suspect that you're being gang-stalked, take this information to the police dept, and file a complaint. Then file a restraining order against these people for what they're doing to you. I hope this helps you, and don't be afraind to stand up against bullying. Take care.

 

 

 

 

 

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Dirty Politics

AUTHOR: Jerry - (United States of America)

I think I remember you. Were you the one who drove a blue Mustang? If yes then you're not alone about the way you feel towards Oaklake Trails. The problem that you and your friend ran into revolved around dirty politics. You weren't a member and so you weren't making them any money. You were working for your stay which meant they still had to pay the utilities and water bill. Regardless of how well you worked which in my opinion you and that other kid worked your buns off, but it didn't matter to the big wigs on top of the hill. Yeah Gary was the president but the people who controlled the resort and said who stays and who goes live on top of the hill. The other kid Josh was probably set up and he's not the first who was set up to get kicked out. When I lived there I witnessed other young men who were set up for something stupid and then told to leave by the big wigs on on top of the hill. My wife and I left about a year later after you guys over something stupid that I won't get into here. It's not about the lifestyle to them. It's about who can bring something to the table. Those who help them profit are the ones they want there. They could care less about who's in it for the lifestyle. I'm sorry to hear that you were treated so badly and I do know who you're talking about regarding the unwanted touching. That wasn't the first time for him to do that. But he helped them profit by working in the office and marketing for them. So he got to stay. I remember a lot of trash talk about you and Josh while you guys were there coming from mostly Rick Lorenz, his wife and his nephew. It wasn't right the way you guys were treated and I would've said something about it, but then I would've been frowned on by the fat cats on top of the hill. They had several meetings about you and Josh and whether or not to allow you to stay. Another thing was the age difference. You and Josh were in your 20's and the members and co-owners and those who owned stock there were in their late 50's, 60's and 70's. They thought because of your age, you were going to be a nuisance . But I never saw that in either one of you. You did your work and then you mingled with the rest of the members or went to the pool. It's hard to understand why there was so much bad talk about you and Josh. It continued after you left by the way. Every conversation at the several pot luck dinners after that were about you and Josh. It made me sick. Once my wife and I just got up and left. We know the truth, but they don't want to admit it or see it that way. So anyway, I hope you're doing well now. I'm sorry to hear about the harassment. It sounds like they are keeping an eye on you in case of a lawsuit. If I know Gary he'll have investigators monitoriing you for a while just to make sure there is no lawsuit. That's not the first time he's done that. So keep the faith, and know that all nudists aren't against you or Josh. There are a lot of nudists who are just as angry at the owners of Oaklake Trails as you are. Some of which have turned into legal matters. So stay cool, you're not alone in how you feel towards them. Be cool and stay naked! -Jerry
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