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Complaint Review: (pa) La Belle Deesse Vodou Temple, Kiwi Mojo, Houngan Liam
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Liam has no Vodou power, because he has no loa or spirits. Loa are handed down in families from mother, to child ect... Liam is not even Haitian. He is a gay man in a bogus marriage to another man. Where did he get his loa , not La Belle Deese, because true Vodou houses are not formed like the way she does. Let me tell you Deesse's scam. When she is emailed about Vodou, she tells the person to meet her on a certain date in Haiti and pay $7,000. USD first. She gets about 20 people to meet her at the same time. They are all part of a bogus service that only cost her at most $10,000. She tells them they are houngans or priests. They use her name and title , but really they just been scammed. They have no power and no loa. Because most of them are white not Haitian nor do they have any African person somewhere in there family tree. THIS IS THE BIGGEST SCAM IN HAITIAN VODOU! La Belle Deesse is a GREEDY a** Haitian who is exploiting Voodoo.
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AUTHOR: Map Montreyo Edeyo Soulage Minfo Bo - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 24, 2012
This is in reference to the attack on my own spiritual Mothers La Belle Deesse Jr & La Belle Deesse Senior. It's unfortunate that this person, feels the need to blast the names of two of the most amazing women, I have had the honor and pleasure of getting to know and to love.
The truth is , that none of what this person says has any truth or merit. ANYONE & EVERYONE who has had any form of encounter with either of these two ladies, will tell you that these accusation simply do not make any sense. And if it doesn't make sense, it is more than likely nonsense.
The information presented isn't part of how our house is run. This person clearly has never had any affiliation with any member of our house, let alone the La Belle's themselves. It would be easier to believe if you had actually experienced these things first hand, and the truth is you have not. As a Houngan myself, I on the other hand have experienced as well as participated in the functions of La Belle Deesse Dereale. And I have met and witnessed countless other Vodou houses in Haiti, experience and participate in these same functions.
You have made the assumption that non Haitians don't have Spirits? If that's the case then why do the Spirits themselves choose non Haitians as their servitors? If they did not have Spirits then why do they get possessed when the Lwa come down to offer blessings and guidance to the Haitian's themselves? To question this is to question Papa Loko himself. And that my foolish friend, is blasphemy. Bless your heart, I pity you...
You've already showed us all that you are not only jelouse, but also a racist, as well as a bigot. And that's a fact! The funniest part of this entire situation , is that you chose to attack two of the most highly respected people in the global Haitian Vodou community! There reputation, flawless and impeckable speaks for itself. LOL Who do you actually think is going to believe you? Sad, sad little thing you. You chose poorly...
Have you been taking your meds? How dare you call my Mothers greedy. How dare you judge them when you clearly have never even met them. Are you even aware of how much they give back? Once again, anyone who knows them, will simply shake there head and laugh at these accusations. When I'm not in Haiti, I talk to them weekly and honestly it's exhausting sometimes when I hear about the amount of work that they are doing. They work to better their family , their people and their country. They have sacrificed everything to give back and to help people.
And if they aren't supporting the efforts of their charities, they are constantly creating awareness for Vodou as well as fighting for the rights for Vodouissants everywhere; including yours... What you are doing is not Vodou; it is not Ginea and it is not the work of the Spirits, and you should be ashamed of your yourself.
The truth is , that none of what this person says has any truth or merit. ANYONE & EVERYONE who has had any form of encounter with either of these two ladies, will tell you that these accusation simply do not make any sense. And if it doesn't make sense, it is more than likely nonsense.
The information presented isn't part of how our house is run. This person clearly has never had any affiliation with any member of our house, let alone the La Belle's themselves. It would be easier to believe if you had actually experienced these things first hand, and the truth is you have not. As a Houngan myself, I on the other hand have experienced as well as participated in the functions of La Belle Deesse Dereale. And I have met and witnessed countless other Vodou houses in Haiti, experience and participate in these same functions.
You have made the assumption that non Haitians don't have Spirits? If that's the case then why do the Spirits themselves choose non Haitians as their servitors? If they did not have Spirits then why do they get possessed when the Lwa come down to offer blessings and guidance to the Haitian's themselves? To question this is to question Papa Loko himself. And that my foolish friend, is blasphemy. Bless your heart, I pity you...
You've already showed us all that you are not only jelouse, but also a racist, as well as a bigot. And that's a fact! The funniest part of this entire situation , is that you chose to attack two of the most highly respected people in the global Haitian Vodou community! There reputation, flawless and impeckable speaks for itself. LOL Who do you actually think is going to believe you? Sad, sad little thing you. You chose poorly...
Have you been taking your meds? How dare you call my Mothers greedy. How dare you judge them when you clearly have never even met them. Are you even aware of how much they give back? Once again, anyone who knows them, will simply shake there head and laugh at these accusations. When I'm not in Haiti, I talk to them weekly and honestly it's exhausting sometimes when I hear about the amount of work that they are doing. They work to better their family , their people and their country. They have sacrificed everything to give back and to help people.
And if they aren't supporting the efforts of their charities, they are constantly creating awareness for Vodou as well as fighting for the rights for Vodouissants everywhere; including yours... What you are doing is not Vodou; it is not Ginea and it is not the work of the Spirits, and you should be ashamed of your yourself.
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AUTHOR: PeseVerence Bo Houngan - (New Zealand)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 15, 2012
Where is the proof of these allegations? As Liam's Civil Union husband, our gay marriage is not 'bogus', it is legal and this Ripoff Report is nothing but ignorant homophobic rubbish.
La Belle Deesse Jnr is part of reputable Vodou Sosyete, she is the Ati of Canada and New York, no fraud would have or maintain that title. It is a title that is verifiable for people who want to check it out, contact Max Beauvoir the Ati of Haiti, Supreme Chief of Haitian Vodou and head of KNVA [Konderasyon Nasyion Vodou Aytian - The National Confederation of Haitian Vodou] and well respected Houngan.
I have attended kanzo run by La Belle Deesse and I have never seen 10-20 people being kanzo'd. When Liam and I were initiated in 2010 we were the only 2 people present. At my second initiation there were only 5 people.
The Labelle Deesse Dereale Sosyete is well respected in Haiti and Houngan and Mambo from other sosyetes attend ceremonies associated with the kanzo to make sure they are being done correctly and to test the initiates. All one needs to do is check out the photos and contact the people who have attended the ceremonies.
La Belle Deesse Jnr is a visible and public figure, just check out her website and videos on YouTube. Everything in the public domain show that she is well respected and not a fraud. This Ripoff Report is the work of a jealous person who hides behind this anonymous forum.
I have attended kanzo run by La Belle Deesse and I have never seen 10-20 people being kanzo'd. When Liam and I were initiated in 2010 we were the only 2 people present. At my second initiation there were only 5 people.
The Labelle Deesse Dereale Sosyete is well respected in Haiti and Houngan and Mambo from other sosyetes attend ceremonies associated with the kanzo to make sure they are being done correctly and to test the initiates. All one needs to do is check out the photos and contact the people who have attended the ceremonies.
La Belle Deesse Jnr is a visible and public figure, just check out her website and videos on YouTube. Everything in the public domain show that she is well respected and not a fraud. This Ripoff Report is the work of a jealous person who hides behind this anonymous forum.
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